u/SpecialNeedsDevil

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3 жыл бұрын

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@sodaspider4997
@sodaspider4997 3 жыл бұрын
She didn’t make the wrong choice, but I feel like she should’ve done it sooner. If he is aware, this is only going to make him more miserable.
@s.d5773
@s.d5773 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's not like anyone could understand or be told that he's sad.
@screwtapee
@screwtapee 3 жыл бұрын
I think he will feel better now if he is aware, he has people who are great at taking care of disabled people now, and can take breaks
@pokemonsisters
@pokemonsisters 3 жыл бұрын
@@s.d5773 that doesn’t mean the feelings are invalid. Just because nobody has to hear about them doesn’t mean they don’t matter.
@SODASSBU
@SODASSBU 3 жыл бұрын
@@pokemonsisters i think the point yeet was trying to get across was that no one could have known if they were in pain or sadness or not to do it earlier
@DeltafangEX
@DeltafangEX 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is that we just don't know. No one does. We can apply as many feelings as we want but we have no idea if his development (if we can even call it that) even has room for forming emotional connections whatsoever. This is a lose-lose situation for everyone involved, quite frankly, but sometimes the oxygen mask needs to go on your face first, followed by the ones who need it the most. In this case, putting the mask over his face does nothing because not only can he not breathe without additional in-depth assistance (both literally and figuratively), but the process actively takes away the chances of survival for her and her healthier son. No one's saying she should callously just throw him away like so much garbage, but the length and detail of her post shows how much she agonized over this decision and I think people need to at least try and respect her agency over someone who might not. If you keep anthropomorphizing his abilities on "principle" alone than you have to dehumanize the mother's agency in the process and we don't need to guess at her faculties. Taking the guess on the off-chance that you're right over what you know to be true is certainly not the way to go about this.
@xduwu4257
@xduwu4257 Жыл бұрын
Modern medicine is kind of scary sometimes. A few hundred years ago if someone was born like this they'd die early on. He's being forced to live, brain dead. Unable to speak or express any feelings. Unable to move. It almost feels cruel to keep a person like this alive.
@esk8er900
@esk8er900 8 ай бұрын
It’s things like this that makes me seriously not understand why it’s considered acceptable to put down/ euthanize animals regardless if they’re sick/ lame/ injured or perfectly healthy just unwanted…. Yet somehow it’s absolutely taboo to do the same to humans who are special cases like hopelessly terminally ill or maimed or essentially brain dead like in this video… the worst part is how the older healthy brother suffers so much daily as a result.
@basilbat273
@basilbat273 8 ай бұрын
A few hundred years ago most of us would have been lobotomized tbf
@Uvlugiak
@Uvlugiak 7 ай бұрын
@@esk8er900 the medical industry would rather suck every dollar out of their patients that they can before showing any ounce of mercy. I wish it were different too 😞
@redfrog1628
@redfrog1628 7 ай бұрын
​​@@Uvlugiaki think it's a mix of that and the fact that taking a human life is more complex than an animal. I do agree though, I believe in certain circumstances a patient could be put to rest.
@Nutz_Deez
@Nutz_Deez 7 ай бұрын
​@@Uvlugiak nah... the medical industry STILL tries to sap your money if you go through the MAID program
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not torn or confused at all, I'm totally with this lady. She's definitely not in a good mental state herself, but given her situation that's not unexpected.
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 9 ай бұрын
No
@min946
@min946 9 ай бұрын
@@Zombina638yknow ur really weird pimp
@JesusChrist-pg5ox
@JesusChrist-pg5ox 9 ай бұрын
​@@Zombina638why
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 9 ай бұрын
@@JesusChrist-pg5ox take that name out
@Sierrahatesmath
@Sierrahatesmath 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you - I have read many stories like this. There comes a time when there is a limit. She has reached that limit. I don't think she should feel bad, and neither should others. If you are suffering from this it is time to take back your life. However, she should have reached out a long time ago. Also, I think that she is wrong for thinking a therapist would demonize her. I think it is perfectly understandable to be in this headspace, especially with a child with special needs. She is alone, and she needs help. It is unfortunate that it got to this point where she is giving up the child plus being so angry/hateful towards him. There is alway help out there, weather it be a babysitter/careworker or a therapist. You just need to look for it. I have seen this before in stories about other parents of disabled/troubled/sick people - you CANNOT do it alone - and you don't have to. There are resources available. ask for help.
@C.U.N.Tahiti
@C.U.N.Tahiti 2 жыл бұрын
She’s angry at the situation, not so much at the kid. The kid is just the embodiment of that situation, which is a hopeless, miserable existence. It’s unfair for everyone involved. I can’t really fault her
@pliktley1
@pliktley1 3 жыл бұрын
She should have done this before the resentment grew so big that she started referring to him as a malignant lump
@MichaelMiller-tm2os
@MichaelMiller-tm2os 2 жыл бұрын
I think that rage comes from blaming him for her husband's death. That is the part she needs to work on, not the guilt of putting him in a home.
@meatwad710
@meatwad710 2 жыл бұрын
sometimes it takes that level of resentment to realize that it’s too much
@adog5891
@adog5891 2 жыл бұрын
@@meatwad710 agreed, I would think that she has sort of done what she can for a long time and her resentment and frustration and built up and boiled over.
@DussyBestroyer69
@DussyBestroyer69 2 жыл бұрын
@@meatwad710 yesss
@theSemiChrist
@theSemiChrist 2 жыл бұрын
Shoulda woulda coulda
@Zwarlie
@Zwarlie 3 жыл бұрын
this is just about one of the worst situations you can be in. however, i don’t think she made the wrong choice. everyone is better off with the kid in a care facility
@vanneproject
@vanneproject 3 жыл бұрын
her situation really is the definition of tragic. i can barely even stomach listening to it.
@Nik.No.K
@Nik.No.K 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my biggest fears. Having a child like this sounds like being given a brutal ball and chain around your ankle that you’re supposed to keep and act like you’re happy about for the rest of your life.
@user-sg4ov7ng4h
@user-sg4ov7ng4h 3 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here i think it was easier with the husband etc, but now shes only doing that
@FishieFat
@FishieFat 3 жыл бұрын
@Cat Egorical all they were told was that the kid would have some kind of autism. Obviously it turned out to not be autism. So no they didn’t know he would be like this
@surrealdynamics4077
@surrealdynamics4077 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a fucked up situation for everyone involved. And as sad it might be to send a child to a care facility, it's for the better in my opinion. The boy would get the care he needs without sucking the life out of his family. It's what I would prefer if I was in vegetative state. It would be unbearable to know I'm slowly becoming such a burden. I support the mother's choice, as hard it might be to make
@dukenukem7043
@dukenukem7043 10 ай бұрын
this isn’t controversial, she did the right thing . without machines and technology the kid wouldn’t have lived amyways . he was essentially a artificially alive corpse
@PootisSpencerHeeyah
@PootisSpencerHeeyah 10 ай бұрын
The baby was an expensive decoration.
@piggylul
@piggylul 9 ай бұрын
@@PootisSpencerHeeyah 😭😭😭😭
@lalablahblahblahhhhh
@lalablahblahblahhhhh 9 ай бұрын
@@PootisSpencerHeeyahDAMN💀
@crazayhounddog
@crazayhounddog 8 ай бұрын
​@@PootisSpencerHeeyah JESUS
@TicklesTrout
@TicklesTrout 8 ай бұрын
At least when he dies he'll get to vote Democrat
@canidae870
@canidae870 2 жыл бұрын
This story kills me every time I hear it. This woman, this MOTHER, has pushed herself beyond breaking. The fact that it took her older kid breaking too shows how fucking HARD she was trying to care, and it devastates me to know that this family will never recover fully from this. And the younger child? I hope there's something they can do for him. This whole story is a complete tragedy.
@q3a2
@q3a2 11 ай бұрын
Why call her a mother? She didn't give her child the respect of giving him a title, even the title of human. She called him a potato and a thing.
@pedroperez9701
@pedroperez9701 11 ай бұрын
@@q3a2spoken like a person who thinks they are ethically better
@q3a2
@q3a2 10 ай бұрын
@@pedroperez9701 💀 report my comment but you support a mom abusing her child. hilarious.
@uncarbonatedmilk_
@uncarbonatedmilk_ 10 ай бұрын
​@@q3a2honestly, what would you have done in that situation differently? your elder child resents his sibling, you're working yourself to the bone daily to care for an entirely unresponsive child with a husband who has comitted suicide, and with only 20 hours of nurse help a week.
@q3a2
@q3a2 10 ай бұрын
@@uncarbonatedmilk_ if i were the useless sack of shit of a parent described in this video id hope there'd be someone around me to make me sign away the rights to both my children as obviously im unfit. don't call your child- AGAIN, CHILD; COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS CHILD- a malignant lump. dont stand still while your other child beats a DISABLED CHILD. the fuck is wrong with you people
@chezswing
@chezswing 3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame OP for leaving the child, but it is kind of hard to hear her call her child a "thing" or "potato".
@CaptainCaterpillars
@CaptainCaterpillars 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she needed to dehumanize him in order to move on with her life with her older son. If she considered him her child, there would be likely no way she would have been able to send him away.
@khalon4993
@khalon4993 3 жыл бұрын
By definition he is a vegetable or a "potato" and the "thing" isn't even living.
@robbennett6749
@robbennett6749 3 жыл бұрын
And a cucumber
@DropOfMidnightOfficial
@DropOfMidnightOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@khalon4993 everyone knows what that means, congrats on feeling the need to justify your prejudice to people on the internet
@khalon4993
@khalon4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@DropOfMidnightOfficial no, shes saying it like it's a bad thing to call a cucumber. It's no worse than calling a homosexual dude gay.
@chonkydog6262
@chonkydog6262 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that this man has such a clear voice so I can use auto-generated captions lol
@chloskyskies4399
@chloskyskies4399 3 жыл бұрын
I second that
@inlinesk8r477
@inlinesk8r477 3 жыл бұрын
My friend is deaf. He recomended me the channel
@corbindalis
@corbindalis 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he is not going the way of Nexpo and using a fake stupid voice
@1SmokedTurkey1
@1SmokedTurkey1 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fact that he even has auto-generated caption turned on. So many youtubers disable them completely unnecessarily.
@alpha98516
@alpha98516 3 жыл бұрын
@@corbindalis are you seriously criticizing him for using a "fake voice"? Ever heard of voice acting?
@zuurek6907
@zuurek6907 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been of the opinion that the legal obligation to keep people with disabilities this severe alive is cruel and unusual punishment, both for the individual and for their families
@Thirtyfivepercentferal
@Thirtyfivepercentferal 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes modern medicine keeps someone alive when they really shouldn't have.
@StillSomeNigga
@StillSomeNigga 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the book ‘Johnny got his gun’
@Morpheye
@Morpheye 7 ай бұрын
The Spartans would look at our society and laugh
@Samp759
@Samp759 7 ай бұрын
@@MorpheyeAnd then promptly die at the age of 25
@tylervue306
@tylervue306 3 жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for that kid. He was given a life without meaning. What a cruel, unfair existence...
@Mskitten1313
@Mskitten1313 3 жыл бұрын
If anything he'd be trapped in his own mind, but even that's hard to know for sure.
@chrisd6287
@chrisd6287 3 жыл бұрын
That’s hardly existence
@johnr797
@johnr797 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is a he in this situation.
@MrYelly
@MrYelly 3 жыл бұрын
The meaning of life is pain and hardship, he's fulfilling his purpose on a deeper level than any of us, lol
@tylervue306
@tylervue306 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrYelly True. But pain and hardship is supposed to increase the feelings of positivity following a downfall, and he gets no chance of feeling that kind of way.
@teethfaerie9522
@teethfaerie9522 3 жыл бұрын
i’ve heard this story probably countless times and i’ve come to think of it this way; if her son is aware, he is miserable like she said. he would probably be so much happier in a situation with people who are equipped to care for a disabled child. everyone in this case would be so much happier with these two away from one another.
@lestatsgirlypop
@lestatsgirlypop 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I heard the story, I started to bawl, it's so cruel.. but its real.. unfortunately.
@mactalk2871
@mactalk2871 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I understand that but what if the kid has no way of communicating like he is trapped in his mind and can do nothing else? I would give the kid to a care facility too, but I would visit him multiple times a week, and if I could maybe even every day. Imagine the kid actually loved the mother and now will never see her again. I hope for the kid that he just doesn't even have a "mind" so to say.
@Cosmiichu
@Cosmiichu 3 жыл бұрын
he isn't aware you they would have noticed a change in heartbeat if he was
@loredanadincu7930
@loredanadincu7930 3 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here no really she made him, but because is ill she doesen't have to carry for him . Are you fucking kiding. If this is real she is a patetic human being. Her calling the kid all kind of names doesen't show she is remorcefull.
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270 3 жыл бұрын
I bet he felt betrayed by his family. I bet he felt more than she knew. I wouldn’t have cared if she gave him up to someone who can give him the care he needs, but the way she dehumanised him is fucking disgusting.
@jayzo
@jayzo 2 жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily the decision she made that makes her a bad person, it's specifically the way she speaks of and thinks of her child.
@zakohat365
@zakohat365 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, it's honestly better for him to receive care in a facility because given the facts we were provided, I truly believe she would have snapped after a certain point and killed her child. Ffs, she stood there and watched while her older son beat him.
@illona2537
@illona2537 10 ай бұрын
Yeah this is how I felt about it. Her calling this child who really did nothing wrong all these names rubbed me the wrong way.
@Gigiy2k6
@Gigiy2k6 10 ай бұрын
100% like as soon as she referred to him as a thing…
@kentroberts2545
@kentroberts2545 10 ай бұрын
I think a lot of that's gotta be the grief over her husband and weariness of seven years talking
@Vran4743
@Vran4743 9 ай бұрын
​@kentroberts2545 Well, her husband chose to khs.
@rilianelucifen876
@rilianelucifen876 Жыл бұрын
the issue here isn't that she made the choice to place him in advanced care, it's more that she seems to actively hate him and goes out of her way to insult him throughout the post. like, if she hates him so much, then it's a good thing he's somewhere else now- no one deserves to have a parent who loathes them. it's just striking the amount of contempt she has for him and makes it seem like it's not just "she's at her wits end and can't take care of him." there's a difference between being desperate and loathing someone for things outside of their control.
@vanillameringues
@vanillameringues 9 ай бұрын
Also letting your other child hurt him..?
@flamingfox5208
@flamingfox5208 8 ай бұрын
I agrre with both of you! But I know for a fact she's being this agressive towards them is an attempt to not see them as human but as something, leading for her to not feel as bad. Do I agree with it? No. But as someone who had to do this to just move on from trauma she's sadly on the right. And I think she didnt let the son attack the other exactly, but she had a reality check so hard she froze, I also do not agree with any of this but we're all only human after, I'm sure if the younger child only had down syndrome she and her husband would be the best parents they could be as she said
@galactic.cl0ud
@galactic.cl0ud 8 ай бұрын
This was my biggest issue with the post as well. If you need to put him in a home, then do so. That’s fine, not everyone is capable of being an at home caretaker. But the wrathful and malicious insults? Unnecessary and cruel. Letting your elder son beat and abuse them? (Which had probably happened before.) is absolutely fucked up and shitty. Even if he had no reaction to it.
@danem2215
@danem2215 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. He's still a human being. There's really no excuse for dehumanizing him. Any living thing is worthy of empathy. She's at the end of her rope, and I completely get the lack of connection, but jesus.
@galactic.cl0ud
@galactic.cl0ud 8 ай бұрын
@@danem2215 THIS!
@b.a.m.5078
@b.a.m.5078 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus. Just put me down if I ever get to that point. That's not life, that's the definition of a vegetable.
@edgyspoon5793
@edgyspoon5793 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@someretard7030
@someretard7030 3 жыл бұрын
A plant or part of a plant used as food, such as a cabbage, potato, turnip, or bean?
@awwastor
@awwastor 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if I would be the child, after I’d get any awareness, it would take a day for me to try and take any chance to kill myself.
@Hansgame
@Hansgame 3 жыл бұрын
same
@courtney862
@courtney862 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this myself. Any domestic animal born in this state would be put down without a second thought. Any wild animal born this way would be left to die. Why is it different with humans? What an awful situation for everyone involved, and I really hope the family is better off now
@strangejono1245
@strangejono1245 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think she is a bad person for not wanting her son, I think she is a bad person for her horrible poisonous words she directs at him. "Cucumber, potato, lump, thing." What a way to talk about a child that never asked for his situation anymore than she did.
@Trickpants
@Trickpants 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it's cruel of her to say such things, though I don't believe it makes her a bad person thoroughly. Many people live with cruel thoughts but it doesn't make them a bad person - I feel the mother needed an outlet and that it would've been healthier for her to get a psychologist to help her deal with her feelings than anything else, but ultimately I know not everyone believes that even when they stand in the situation. The words were absolutely cruel and unnecessary though, I do agree with that, and it's the only part I felt uncomfortable by. The mother is in an unfortunate position, but the child didn't ask for this either, and I agree it was a terrible thing of her to say ... But on the other hand, I understand she needed the anger out. Just ... Not the right way to do it in my opinion.
@cosmetanoia5018
@cosmetanoia5018 3 жыл бұрын
It literally does not even have the capacity to care. It doesn’t care that it’s killed it’s father, it doesn’t care that it took away it’s brothers parents, it doesn’t care that it ruined its mother’s life. It doesn’t have any more guilt than a fucking rock, and it’s mother is completely justified in calling it whatever she wants to.
@strangejono1245
@strangejono1245 3 жыл бұрын
@@cosmetanoia5018 That's a double standard. You're saying he didn't have the capacity to do anything but at the same time he is fully responsible for everything bad that happened to his family. He killed his father? Are you serious? And I bet spoons made you fat too you absolute nut.
@cosmetanoia5018
@cosmetanoia5018 3 жыл бұрын
@@strangejono1245 it existance itself ruined its familys lives. Hey, taxes arent a physical thing, but they still fuck up poor peoples lives. I am literally underweight. But nice job assuming things just to make people look bad. Your argument is shit.
@strangejono1245
@strangejono1245 3 жыл бұрын
@@cosmetanoia5018 You are crazy.
@orourkeda
@orourkeda 2 жыл бұрын
I 100 % empathatise with this lady. I understand that some people may find the language she uses to be offensive. However, to be honest, I can see why she would do this.
@SweetTea15
@SweetTea15 Жыл бұрын
I work as a bus driver for special needs adults and this video had me in tears. The people I work with are extremely special and beautiful in all of their different ways. Having said that it is an extremely difficult situation for these families to be in. 90% of the people I drive every day do not live with their immediate families, they live in special housing in which they have care givers. Let me tell you it is not always the best care. As I said before these people all have so many special qualities about them almost all off them make my day in their own ways, however I could not begin to even comprehend how difficult it would be to have a child who can not even respond to stimulation or anything for that matter and all I’m trying to say is unless we have lived in the EXACT situation ourselves we can not pass any judgment. Walk a mile in their shoes as they say.
@Kayla-Butterfly
@Kayla-Butterfly 10 ай бұрын
I just wanna say you are such a beautiful person. I'm not special needs but I am disabled and never hear being referenced to being beautiful and that is the most beautiful way of looking at it. God bless you in every way. ❤️🙏
@justasillylitleguy
@justasillylitleguy 10 ай бұрын
Okay, well as an autistic kid (not saying this to deflect claims of ableism, just saying this is what happens in my brain) I get overstimulated easily and do lack empathy. If I had something that I poured all of my energy into just for it to be only a source of negativity, I'd want it gone too.
@SweetTea15
@SweetTea15 10 ай бұрын
@@Kayla-Butterfly aww thank you very much I appreciate your kind words more than you know. I wish nothing but the best for you and your family, I hope you are surrounded by nothing but positivity.
@TheKrodes
@TheKrodes 10 ай бұрын
I mean, ive never been fuhrer of germany, so i guess i wont judge
@Kayla-Butterfly
@Kayla-Butterfly 7 ай бұрын
@SweetTea15 god bless you sweetheart. I wish the absolute same for you. Nothing but love And light for you. Merry Christmas also! ❤️😘
@carterrilee
@carterrilee 3 жыл бұрын
I’m kinda glad many of the comments agree the child’s better in a facility
@mattelliott8446
@mattelliott8446 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not about the child being better. It’s about the remainder of the family being better. Apparently, the child doesn’t feel and has no awareness. Whether they are kept at a resort or in a cage isn’t relevant to him only the people who have his care on their conscience. The continued care is palative to the mother and not at all the child.
@carterrilee
@carterrilee 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattelliott8446 I agree
@patavinity1262
@patavinity1262 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was expecting them all to be screaming at the mother. I'm surprised to see all the comments are actually reasonable.
@GuyNamedSean
@GuyNamedSean 3 жыл бұрын
I really agree completely with the mother. I've seen this kind of thing before. It's a human, but not a person. It's like someone that's brain dead. There's nothing there.
@the_ghost_orchid
@the_ghost_orchid 3 жыл бұрын
@KZbin Censors Free Speech Yea I’m super happy we DON’T live in the 1800’s. So kids with disabilities aren’t taken “behind a shed” and killed like a pig.
@chanceytheyoungin
@chanceytheyoungin 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a tragic story all around.... I don’t think the mother is evil at all. Just wish she would have made the decision to place her son in a care facility before things got so heavy for the family.
@Sasuke-ss1tf
@Sasuke-ss1tf 3 жыл бұрын
The way she talks about him, and refers to him is evil. She could still put him in a care facility without being a disgusting person
@odd.3y3
@odd.3y3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sasuke-ss1tf i think that she refers to him like that is because she is incredibly desperate and burnt-out at this point...you just detach yourself from the situation at some point. It might also be a way of dealing with the situation, because it is extremely heavy on someone's psyche...so while it might seem very extrem and evil, it's most likely just the result of the situation she's in🤷‍♀️
@SnekkySnek
@SnekkySnek 3 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here she didnt know her son would end up the way he is while pregnant, she was only told he would have down syndrome. She wasnt going to abort based on just that
@chanceytheyoungin
@chanceytheyoungin 3 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here she said she would have, had she known.
@raiisleep
@raiisleep 3 жыл бұрын
@@chanceytheyoungin had she known he would've been in that poor a condition
@KharonDeLune_vtb
@KharonDeLune_vtb 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry - teh - twuh - *twenty hours in a week was all that she was entitled to?!* The health system of her country is utterly broken. This child needs _trained_ carers around the clock, not a mother who nobody has really taught how to manage, much less the multiple years od full training.
@DeadAndAliveCat
@DeadAndAliveCat 11 ай бұрын
Or rather, the law should allow for euthanasia, so that people aren't forced to pay for other people's shitty genetics
@CosmicMapping
@CosmicMapping 10 ай бұрын
America is a dystopia.
@tonyrichard8078
@tonyrichard8078 7 ай бұрын
This story's fake
@drinkingfoam5546
@drinkingfoam5546 5 ай бұрын
​@@tonyrichard8078proof?
@DXe4Ea
@DXe4Ea 13 күн бұрын
​@tonyrichard8078 how do u know? And even then it's realistic. She is not the only person going thru this
@Judge371
@Judge371 2 жыл бұрын
I have an18 year old brother with Down’s syndrome and other disabilities that basically keep him at the size of a 7 year old and mental capacity of a 3 year old, so I’m naturally always on the side defending kids with special needs no matter what….but even I can understand why she did what she did. To be honest though I struggle to even believe the story is real because it just sounds so horrible
@vanillameringues
@vanillameringues 9 ай бұрын
I know I’m wondering if this is real too..
@dunkinnatalie
@dunkinnatalie 3 жыл бұрын
That poor older son.
@juu57857
@juu57857 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to think how he'd react in the future
@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395
@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 3 жыл бұрын
He’s probably gonna be messed up as a grown adult :/
@tedstudt8550
@tedstudt8550 3 жыл бұрын
Right? I'm thinking about how much I would've been fucked up if I lost my dad at 12 and barely got to interact with my mom and fuck man, that's horrible
@sweeswoop1235
@sweeswoop1235 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he’s probably gone through most of his life on his own, being ignored and pushed to the side, always in the shadow of his younger brother who will considering some of the points made in the post, will likely not be able to come out of that ‘vegetable’ state
@diegobrando2750
@diegobrando2750 3 жыл бұрын
He did abuse his 7-year old disabled and defenseless brother...
@omegaO_O
@omegaO_O 3 жыл бұрын
At this point he’s gonna list every redditor ever
@thatshogunpanda893
@thatshogunpanda893 3 жыл бұрын
Next Video Title: *u/Cadaber*
@litfrogna
@litfrogna 3 жыл бұрын
u/PixelPlays72
@orthodoxcrusader5413
@orthodoxcrusader5413 3 жыл бұрын
@@cool_bug_facts I would be like : huh it must be about that time when I wrote how I killed my family
@litfrogna
@litfrogna 3 жыл бұрын
@@orthodoxcrusader5413 hold up
@elise.jones14
@elise.jones14 3 жыл бұрын
i don't think so, but I think he should make content that's darker than posts from reddit.
@vandel939
@vandel939 Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe that he should have been medically put to rest. To me it sounds like a coma, but way worse. She did the semi correct thing, but she was way too malicious about it.
@omgnoi
@omgnoi 7 ай бұрын
I agree, he is not even a person at this point just born human
@babyhermitcrab5114
@babyhermitcrab5114 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think asking for a person to be put to death without their permission or even recognition is going to get you very far
@wiimusic5671
@wiimusic5671 7 ай бұрын
​@@omgnoi ok
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 7 ай бұрын
@@omgnoiexactly. Fuck that potato
@TheRealDevilDoll
@TheRealDevilDoll Жыл бұрын
She did the right thing, for the sake of her other son and herself. She's not a terrible person, but I hope she pursues counseling to deal with her (completely understandable) anger and resentment toward the child, which are obvious in how she refers to him. Maybe with therapy and the passage of time she will be able to visit the child in the facility. In the meantime I hope she and her other son are at peace with the decision, and have a happy life.
@GenuineDunkaccino
@GenuineDunkaccino 3 жыл бұрын
This all reminds me of the Metallica song “One”, which is about a soldier who’s had all their limbs blown off, vision and hearing lost and their vocal chords cut by a landmine, though he’s still alive, trapped inside his head
@OldSchool82
@OldSchool82 3 жыл бұрын
"s.o.s...s.o.s"...
@franciscoastorga8299
@franciscoastorga8299 3 жыл бұрын
DARKNESS!
@GenuineDunkaccino
@GenuineDunkaccino 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoastorga8299 IMPRISONING ME!
@franciscoastorga8299
@franciscoastorga8299 3 жыл бұрын
ALL THAT I SEE!
@GenuineDunkaccino
@GenuineDunkaccino 3 жыл бұрын
@@franciscoastorga8299 ABSOLUTE HORROR!
@sk8ersteve
@sk8ersteve 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the saddest stories I’ve ever heard. I don’t think anyone could reasonably expect OP to have acted any different other than to give up sooner.
@Meliaison
@Meliaison 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lost a brother with down syndrome and autism a few years ago, I disagree with some of her actions. I stopped listening after I hearing the part where she allowed to have her other son beat him. So disgusting and vile. No matter the effort she put into that child, none of it was his fault. Also her terminology...just wow. What she should have done was allow her son to die peacefully with palliative care long ago. We had to do something similar for my brother when we found out his quality of life would be severely diminished even if he were to recover from ARDS. He wouldnt have been able to enjoy things he used to without ever understanding why. I feel at peace as his sister knowing he is in a better place than he would have had he survived. Im sad that this poor child will have to endure constant suffering until his life ends
@TrineDaely
@TrineDaely 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I hope OP and her older son have found a place and a way to start healing together. That's going to be a lot of years of therapy just for the two of them, but I truly wish they are able to support each other emotionally as time goes on.
@ocfos88
@ocfos88 2 жыл бұрын
Being Autistic/ADD who will never be able to take care of myself, and having a brother with developmental disabilities...I both feel horrible for this, yet understand where it's coming from. At the same time, this poster's words about her son, are a lot of how I feel about myself... A burden.
@somerandomgoblin2583
@somerandomgoblin2583 2 жыл бұрын
You are not a burden. You deserve love, care, and respect as everyone else does. Please never lose sight of this. Often, people who are disabled are called horrible things, and it's never deserved. I hope you live your best life, friend.
@andalistark5416
@andalistark5416 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, u realize that what OP is referring to is very, very different from your situation. Just the fact that i can communicate with u right now verifies this. & for as burdensome as u or i may feel, we FEEL it. We show it. We repay it in love & gratitude- and those who care for us value that as much as anything. (Can i tell u.. my stepson has autism. He’s a sharp kid but will never be able to live on his own, ok? My exhusband went thru a very low, self destructive period. So many bad choices, wrong paths- and he kept turning it around for his son. Pretty much suicidal- “but i could never do that to my boy.” Honestly, that child has saved his dad’s life more times than he will ever know.)
@amp4105
@amp4105 2 жыл бұрын
How do you play video games so well
@cynical9159
@cynical9159 2 жыл бұрын
yes but considering you can formulate sentences, seemingly having a personality and actually have the means to benefit our world and the people around you, then I would not consider you a burden.
@PirateNikki
@PirateNikki 2 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel due to having medical issues that require me having to rely on my family pretty heavily. But this is totally different. You have a personality. You can type. You can talk and communicate. If I ever get to a state where I am simply just there and can't do anything, I will either take myself out before it gets to that or have made sure multiple people know that I want to be offed.
@magickaldust1213
@magickaldust1213 3 жыл бұрын
20 hours a week is nowhere NEAR halftime care, it is not even one full day out of seven. That poor mother, I cannot imagine.
@mick3y2302
@mick3y2302 3 жыл бұрын
that's EXACTLY what i was thinking! i don't really know how in home care works, but you would think with a child like hers that they would be eligible for more time??
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 3 жыл бұрын
@@mick3y2302 It usually based on your insurance and the homecare agency you go for. The caseworkers from the insurance company and homecare agency determining how many hours your case qualifies. It's hard getting full time or more for home care, unless you don't mind constantly fighting with your insurance company. I worked as an aide for a bit before being an EMT and I was even fighting to get paid a lot of the time since insurance company didn't want to pay.
@mick3y2302
@mick3y2302 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomtinypotatocried damn that sucks so much. insurance is a hit or miss it seems with being helpful
@jturtle5318
@jturtle5318 3 жыл бұрын
We care for a ventilator-dependent child with up to 40 hours a week of nursing. There's no name-calling or hitting involved.
@jturtle5318
@jturtle5318 3 жыл бұрын
@@mick3y2302 it depends on whether you can find qualified nurses in your area.
@Iloveyusomuch
@Iloveyusomuch 3 жыл бұрын
The only wrong thing for me in this story was letting the older kid beat up the younger one, that was wrong. It's the far better option to put this person into a home where he will be cared for by professionnal rather than living with 2 people who's life is made terrible by his presence and therefore will make his life bad as well if he even was physicaly capable of feeling bad. The mother is justify in her action even if it's a terrible situation moraly
@shrimpchip37
@shrimpchip37 3 жыл бұрын
As well as referring to the child as a “potato” or “lump.” The child is still human regardless of mental abilities.
@MsTinkerbelle87
@MsTinkerbelle87 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you NEVER have a child like this, you’re terrifying!
@Iloveyusomuch
@Iloveyusomuch 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsTinkerbelle87 and you're delusionale. I would like to see yourself in this very situation.
@shrimpchip37
@shrimpchip37 3 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here I just assumed most people wouldn’t be so rude to a human being with mental disabilities. Sad that his own mother is calling him such names even if he doesn’t act like a “normal” child.
@Iloveyusomuch
@Iloveyusomuch 3 жыл бұрын
@Insert Name Here i understand what you're saying but we as a species should always care and treat other with respect no matter their situation
@wilderedsuitor
@wilderedsuitor 10 ай бұрын
Everyone is a victim in this story, the kids, the mother, and the father, they couldn't do anything about it and it just breaks my heart to see that cases like this actually happen, this is nobody's fault.
@quitlif3
@quitlif3 10 ай бұрын
100% justifiable but specialneedsdevil is a crazy name for a throwaway ☠️☠️
@saltyseadog4719
@saltyseadog4719 5 ай бұрын
😂ikr?❤
@meganthememe130
@meganthememe130 3 жыл бұрын
I 110% percent understand this woman's decision, I just felt like calling the child a potato and the way she talked about him was kind of cruel. I understand there isn't much of a person in that child, but it is still a human life. Also, just letting her other son hit him was wrong.
@jasonvargas7564
@jasonvargas7564 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah....just imagine if she waited any longer. She would have killed him, or let her son kill him as she watched on. Better late than never I guess.
@camdengrant2948
@camdengrant2948 3 жыл бұрын
I agree... the way she talked about him made me so sad :(
@l.d.cfilms4363
@l.d.cfilms4363 3 жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean, but to play devil's advocate, is it even a _human_ life if there's no consciousness or free will? It's hardly a life, nor is anything about it human.
@ReReNotMe
@ReReNotMe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I have sympathy for everyone involved but I can't help but get Frollo vibes from the hunchback of Notre Dame from her. I get her turmoil but dismissing the child as nothing but a thing and a burden who deserves to be abused honestly gives me the chills. I'm sure being in that situation for so long can make you develop some serious feelings of resentment but the child himself isn't deserving of the constant beration.
@solaireofastora8829
@solaireofastora8829 3 жыл бұрын
There was absolutely no need for the name calling fully believe this is fake
@samoleary8385
@samoleary8385 3 жыл бұрын
“Warning. The following video contains subject matter including: disturbing content”. CADABER THAT DOESN’T GIVE ME ANY WARNING I’M SCARED
@elliotville7820
@elliotville7820 3 жыл бұрын
Child neglect/abuse
@hetty5531
@hetty5531 3 жыл бұрын
+
@abner9404
@abner9404 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ChoiceSnarf
@ChoiceSnarf 3 жыл бұрын
@@elliotville7820 But is it, though?
@themyofmy
@themyofmy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChoiceSnarf ...yes????????
@magpie9660
@magpie9660 Жыл бұрын
I am not even finished this story, but her name calling and the harsh language, dehumanizing him and letting him be beat up and her literally having no emotion towards him. It’s disgusting, i’m glad that child is not around that family anymore though.
@OrangeYTT
@OrangeYTT 9 ай бұрын
Every person has a breaking point, and OP hit their's long ago. If you were in OP shoes you would crack sooner or later too. Quit the holier-than-thou attitude.
@callinater6133
@callinater6133 8 ай бұрын
@@OrangeYTT please shut up with this ‘holier than thou’ bs. There’s a difference between basic human decency and being ‘holier than thou.’
@keelysmeltser
@keelysmeltser 8 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@OrangeYTToh please, it doesn’t take a holier-than-thou person to not refer to their disabled son as “thing” and “it”
@helloworld4404
@helloworld4404 8 ай бұрын
​@@keelysmeltserlmao by the way the mother describes the son, it's basically a thing. It's literally just a waste of space tbh
@ObamaMpreg
@ObamaMpreg 5 ай бұрын
@@helloworld4404 He's still a human deserving of respect
@jonashelmke2564
@jonashelmke2564 2 жыл бұрын
I have taken close care of a severe relative suffering of extreme early onset dementia. It's hard to express how much the part about "at least they'll be paid a wage to take care of him, at least they get to punch out at the end of the day" resonates with me. Don't underestimate that.
@Subpar1O1
@Subpar1O1 3 жыл бұрын
The horrifying thing is the idea this child could think, the mother doesn't even know if he had any awareness of his surroundings, but what if he did? What would go on in someone's head in a scenario like that, just staring at a wall all day, being tube fed and in diapers, even knowing that the only family you have hates you, being locked in a shell of a body? Imagine if the kid wanted to die, but he couldn't tell anyone anything, so all he can do is just stare and think. That's my worst fear personally
@mike04574
@mike04574 10 ай бұрын
It says he has severely undeveloped brain functions and can’t comprehend things, he prolly doesn’t know what’s going on and is fine with it
@no_one_u_know4287
@no_one_u_know4287 10 ай бұрын
Well you could scan the brain and check if there’s someone in there by scanning for brain stimulation
@no_one_u_know4287
@no_one_u_know4287 10 ай бұрын
If there is none when the tests are run then there’s no one home 😞
@katiecunningham5
@katiecunningham5 9 ай бұрын
they would have definitely tested for that, i think she was speaking in a hypothetical sense
@Fae7Rose
@Fae7Rose 9 ай бұрын
​@@no_one_u_know4287not really, human consciousness is not fully understood. We do not know if the brain stores all consciousness.
@apocalypticool9043
@apocalypticool9043 3 жыл бұрын
- Cadaber: I know that the comment section is going to be heavily debated - Huge majority of the comments: The mother made the right decision
@fruitygarlic3601
@fruitygarlic3601 3 жыл бұрын
There are still some people arguing whether it was okay for OP to let her son beat up the child and call him names. Some say it was unjustified, many others say the child is subhuman and doesn't deserve to be alive.
@stalinsoulz7872
@stalinsoulz7872 3 жыл бұрын
@@fruitygarlic3601 no it was. A mixture take this a kid lost his father now he has to be responsible early and sacrifice so SO much then. When he clearly looks at is something void. Like what is his Hard work for?... though everyone will agree the mother watching im distance when it unfold shows that family is losing sanity
@terrenceswiff
@terrenceswiff 2 жыл бұрын
@@fruitygarlic3601 I think it's worth remembering what OP requested in the first place: not what's right, but what would you do? When you're an emotional wreck, and understand entirely where the other son is coming from, would you stop him? MAYBE. But, maybe you also would not
@anomitas
@anomitas 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the older son acts that way just shows how terrible a mother she is though.
@IKFtheGoat
@IKFtheGoat 2 жыл бұрын
@@anomitas Not really cuz your stressful when you lose a loved one
@penskepc2374
@penskepc2374 2 жыл бұрын
I can get past everything except her need to insult him, it's says a lot.
@amp4105
@amp4105 2 жыл бұрын
yup
@yourbigfatdog992
@yourbigfatdog992 9 ай бұрын
I can't believe she blames her husbands on her disabled child, i really think she hates him
@Ken-fh4jc
@Ken-fh4jc 8 ай бұрын
I think she was just trying to communicate it. Like to show “hey I’m serious.”
@elf3477
@elf3477 2 жыл бұрын
My son was born with gastroschisis. All of his intestines were hanging out when they lifted him from me. We were in a children's hospital for 5 months straight and in and out for appointments and stays for over a year after. He had a central line in his chest, an ileostomy bag and feeding tube when I brought him home at 5months old. I struggled hard mentally and emotionally during that time, even grieving my son's death while he was still alive, as the infections caused such a high fever and I was terrified of the infection reaching his heart. I cried to my sister once and admitted that I'd researched adoption agencies. It took maybe one day to completely erase that idea or any thoughts of it. I fought hard (my son did too) and now he is 4 and has no medical applications whatsoever. Somewhat of a sensitive tummy is all we deal with these days. I can really understand where that mom is coming from. Being a caregiver in any capacity is exhausting and it's sad when you have to be a nurse and therapist to your child to the point where you can't even be a mother.
@rainbowrotcod
@rainbowrotcod Жыл бұрын
I was born with gastroschisis... it is so rare for me to see someone else mention it.
@elf3477
@elf3477 Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowrotcod what was ur experience with it if u dont mind me asking?
@rainbowrotcod
@rainbowrotcod Жыл бұрын
@@elf3477 well first of all, I shouldn't have said "born" cuz I was a C-section baby, haha. (I had hip dysplasia too which had to be corrected surgically when I was a toddler.) I was stuck in the hospital for quite a while before I could be taken home.thankfully my case was pretty straightforward I think, got stitched up pretty quickly. Over the years I have had some major gastrointestinal surgeries due to weird complications like intestines knotting up so I think the defect made my organs weirdly pliable, they like to move. I actually just got back home kinda recently after being hospitalized on and off for complications after some surgery. Couldn't eat for months, starting to eat again. Probably will still have some chronic stomach aching though. Glad to be back at some sense of normalcy though.
@elf3477
@elf3477 Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowrotcod I'm glad you're out of the hospital but I'm sorry you've had to go through all of that. How old are you? What are your thoughts on the origins of gastroschisis?
@rainbowrotcod
@rainbowrotcod Жыл бұрын
@@elf3477 I'm turning 18 in january . the cause of the defect itself is apparently unknown but I suspect my case was because my mother was very young when she had me .
@LoveThatDoll
@LoveThatDoll 3 жыл бұрын
She made the right choice for the well being of herself and both of her children but the way that she speaks about her disabled son makes me feel sick.
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel the same. I don’t judge her for giving the child away, but the way she spoke about the kid was vile. And when I wrote a comment pointing it out the calling out the people who echoed that same mindset, they kept repeating her words and keep on dehumanising him. Ableism at its finest.
@khalon4993
@khalon4993 3 жыл бұрын
What did she say that was so terrible?
@khalon4993
@khalon4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@bisexualsmoothtalker1270 stop saying ableism. You clearly don't know what that word means or you wouldn't be saying it. This isn't albelism, it's simply being angry that a vegetable that doesn't feel, think or breathe is ruining everyone's life.
@StarlightStephanie
@StarlightStephanie 3 жыл бұрын
@@khalon4993 Well if you are a kid and one of your parents called you a potato/ not human. Wouldn't you think that's a bit messed up.
@khalon4993
@khalon4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarlightStephanie if I was by definition a "potato" how could I be mad? Also that kid can only look one way, can't hear and can't feel.
@eccentriccalico9488
@eccentriccalico9488 3 жыл бұрын
I completely understand why she made the decision she did, and I even feel like it was the best option all things considered. But what stands out to me is the words she uses to describe her youngest (potato, cucumber, etc.); It just seems unnecessarily cruel in my eyes, like she truly resents her child for being the way he is. I know she must be tired from performing such a thankless job as caring for a severely disabled child, but there's no need to dehumanize him like that.
@singularityraptor4022
@singularityraptor4022 3 жыл бұрын
Losing the significant other, neglecting a child while another takes all your energy, giving up your own dreams and having no one in your life not even a therapist to vent all this out, I can confidently say anyone on her shoes when given a small window of venting out, would say such things.
@deez1429
@deez1429 3 жыл бұрын
she most likely had to lose sight of her child as a human in order to be able to give him up
@gabriellazane673
@gabriellazane673 3 жыл бұрын
Giving up a child is extremely difficult, even when you don’t want them. I think dehumanizing him was a way for her to lessen the pain. If she didn’t think of him as a person, she wouldn’t be giving up her child, but rather a thing.
@Crypticphantom17
@Crypticphantom17 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Then letting the child be abused? Beaten? She should've been charged for that
@meowmaximum2838
@meowmaximum2838 3 жыл бұрын
Shes calling him that cause she doesnt love him in anyway. You would really have to be in her shoes to fully understand that. How can you dehumanize something thats barely even human at that point. He just.... exists. He will have nothing going for him. He will have no life, find no love, have no ambitions, etc etc... He really is a potato or a vegetable
@shadowstar554
@shadowstar554 Жыл бұрын
My grandma worked in a home where she looked after special needs people who couldn't take care of themselves. The people she looked after were adults, and the parents were sometimes still in the picture, but they weren't able to care for their fully grown child late into their own adulthood. My point being, maybe the son would be more loved and cared for in a residential facility.
@carsoncomplains
@carsoncomplains 10 ай бұрын
Hearing my biological mother refer to me as a "malignant lump" would make me commit suicide with my letter indicating just how much it was her fault
@Ray-mj5mj
@Ray-mj5mj 7 ай бұрын
It’s very sad, but then if you were this child, you wouldn’t be able to comprehend that hatred or what suicide is. That’s what is sad: this child is missing the machinery that can generate a soul, and so the mother tried to care only to realize that she was only caring for a machine and not a person.
@citizen_wayne
@citizen_wayne 6 ай бұрын
I think my mom has called me things about as bad, but of course not in the exact same spirit.
@Textago
@Textago 5 ай бұрын
i'd laugh a little bit
@BrianBarrettWilson
@BrianBarrettWilson 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing she did wrong perhaps was waiting so long to do what she did.
@evasmojang
@evasmojang 3 жыл бұрын
And referring to him as cucumber, potato, etc. Seemed rude and unnecessary to me.
@jasonvargas7564
@jasonvargas7564 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad she did this before she ended up killing him, or simply watching her older son do it as she watched on, the way she watched him attack his younger brother and basically wished he wasn't even born. But she really should have done this a long time ago, like you said.
@josh-samuelikechi-konkwo7190
@josh-samuelikechi-konkwo7190 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but she didn’t have to make all those comments. That was wrong. Who the fuck calls their child a thing?
@drcheesenut896
@drcheesenut896 3 жыл бұрын
@@josh-samuelikechi-konkwo7190 Well that's the question isn't it? Is he really alive or aware at all? Because if they aren't, then it is basically a thing, someone/something that while yes technically alive can't feel anything at all. She was harsh, but I feel that was all the anger and sadness coming put from all those years building all that emotion up, but she is not wrong to not consider him/it a person since we have no clue if they're aware or not
@josh-samuelikechi-konkwo7190
@josh-samuelikechi-konkwo7190 3 жыл бұрын
@@drcheesenut896 Awareness isn't what determines of you are a person. Simple fucking biology does. We know he's not a fetus so we can't apply the logic of not yet being developed. We know he has cells. Why are we so prideful as to regard anything less than perfect, less human. If you wouldn't put a bullet in the head of a dog point blank because it's a fucking animal, what makes this any different? He is alive. Breathing. She has all the right to consider ending his suffering. She is his mother. But as long as his cells and body consist of human DNA, that standard applies to him. Consciousness does not determine if a human being that is already born, is a human. It just determines if he suffers within his humanity
@krangus2776
@krangus2776 3 жыл бұрын
I think the manner and phrasing she used when telling her story shines a not-so-clear light on her character. Like she said, she won't even tell her therapist all this information, so reddit was literally her first and only outlet for her emotions. Emotions that had been building up over the last seven years of her life. Her life being consumed by her disabled child with no reward or help in sight, her husbands death, her eldest son's neglect, that obviously took a toll on her mental state and it seems like she only bottled it up. When she sat down and wrote all this, it was likely pure and raw emotion. Sadness, anger, regret, happiness, hope, all at once. If she had waited a year and then made her "confession", I think the writing would be different, maybe with more of a "mourning" tone for her lost child. Maybe at that point she would have been clear-minded enough as to not damage her own character through her strong choice of words. Just food for thought, though.
@WW7150girl
@WW7150girl 3 жыл бұрын
I like this. Even though I thought the mom made the right call, I was put off by a lot of her phrasing. But I think you’re right, there’s a lot of fresh resentment and anger there. I appreciate your compassionate take on it.
@bookapillar
@bookapillar 3 жыл бұрын
@@WW7150girl I agree she made it hard for many to show her as much compassion with her wording, but we should still see her from your point of view...probably
@maryamkeraif8942
@maryamkeraif8942 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@BallisticaMetal
@BallisticaMetal 3 жыл бұрын
I was put off too by her phrasing, but I really think is more of a made-up story, and more coming from the internet, and even more from Reddit, but it's cool and makes you think about a moral dilemma.
@madisoncannoles4907
@madisoncannoles4907 3 жыл бұрын
You said exactly what I was thinking, was her words harsh and unnecessary? Yes, but it sounds to me like she and her older son, both probably have been building resentment. And, it's come to a head after the father/husband's death.
@simplywinter1039
@simplywinter1039 10 ай бұрын
If he can’t think, speak, want or love is he worth anything as a person? I don’t think he has genuine value.
@Mydogisbetterthanyou1
@Mydogisbetterthanyou1 Жыл бұрын
I’m a psychologist who has had patients with very similar situations- you cannot judge this woman unless you’ve walked in her shoes. Special needs, non verbal children, in general, need full time care. A child like this, with no affect, no emotions…that’s more than a full time job. I commend her for attempting to take that on herself. Her healthy child needs to be her priority because he’s the one who will be a part of society and we already have more than enough severely emotionally damaged people out there as is.
@memeju1ce
@memeju1ce 3 жыл бұрын
i don’t blame her, especially because i’m not in her shoes. but it makes me feel awful when she calls him things like a “malignant lump” my mum can’t work because she is my carer, i’m not intellectually disabled and am usually aware of everything going on. i sometimes wish she had aborted or miscarried me, life would be so much easier on her and my family, and i wouldn’t live a life of constant chronic pain
@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395
@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, people keep trying to justify cruelty by saying how bad she had it, and yeah I totally understand that, but... no, just no......
@ialexi4847
@ialexi4847 3 жыл бұрын
hey man, whatever you're going through I hope your pain subsides and I hope you find happiness and peace. don't let some of the comments bring you down. you are not a burden and i hope you know that. even tho, at the least, you may think you're an inconvenience to your family I'm sure they're glad to have you :) glad you're here my guy. stay awesome :)
@inventedcool1076
@inventedcool1076 3 жыл бұрын
Please understand you and this woman's son are not the same thing! You have thoughts and emotions and a personality! You can communicate and love and understand. I know this is hard, and I'm sure sometimes it's hard for your family too, but I'm bet they never regret it for a second.
@tedstudt8550
@tedstudt8550 3 жыл бұрын
I understand where you're coming from. I have type one diabetes; fortunately I am privileged beyond my own comprehension, but I can't imagine the sort of mental anguish I would be put through if my family were less economically privileged by knowing that my death would substantially improve their lives (I live in the US, so insulin and diabetic supplies are expensive as fuck here if you don't have a good job with good benefits). All the love, and I wish you the best, friend ❤❤
@doodledude8190
@doodledude8190 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I know this child truly was a burden to this family, but the way she talks about him is so off putting. Say what you will, he is a human being
@brandito5480
@brandito5480 3 жыл бұрын
i understand why she did it though the constant badgering of him really ticked me off
@TheMorrigan31
@TheMorrigan31 3 жыл бұрын
Yep same, it was really unnecessary
@gayidek
@gayidek 3 жыл бұрын
finally someone said it, i've literally never seen anybody dehumanize a person to this extent
@ratedm4matt208
@ratedm4matt208 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but also at the same time I think I understand why she was doing it. She put all her effort and hopes into the child and they all came crashing on her. I see her doing the name calling as a defense mechanism for her actions to prevent a little less misery from the situation
@doodledude8190
@doodledude8190 3 жыл бұрын
This.
@BitterKatze
@BitterKatze 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was bothered by that. As someone who is disabled these kind of insults hit harder, even if the way they're being used is "justified"
@luckycl0ver777
@luckycl0ver777 8 ай бұрын
I'm currently pregnant with my first child and I could never imagine allowing myself to grow that kind of hatred towards him even in a state akin to OP's son. Truthfully, if I had a son like that, it would break my heart but i would put him on hospice and allow him to die naturally. I think its cruel to keep someone alive who has no ability to interact with the world. Even experiencing pain is better than nothing.
@ryananderson969
@ryananderson969 7 ай бұрын
Comments show how society still views disabled people as burdens rather than people
@ObamaMpreg
@ObamaMpreg 5 ай бұрын
exactly.
@zgct3648
@zgct3648 3 жыл бұрын
This is ultimately a tragedy. Not just for the mom, but for everyone involved. It's genuinely sad knowing there's people that are so disabled that they're practically not even alive.
@lexirosemary641
@lexirosemary641 3 жыл бұрын
That poor child. Genuinely not his fault, but I understand where she’s coming from. Some of the language she used in this post kind of made my stomach turn.
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 3 жыл бұрын
Not trying to be a dick, the moms obviously had a difficult life and a difficult decision to make...but I wonder why they didn’t terminate the pregnancy? 96-98% of parents who are told their child has a missing chromosome will terminate the pregnancy. If anyone ever finds themselves in a similar situation please have an open and honest discussion with your partner.
@jturtle5318
@jturtle5318 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverquach9614 or, place him in a nursing home much sooner.
@rafagb
@rafagb 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverquach9614 it’s mentioned in the video, that the doctors thought the baby had Downs Syndrome while she was pregnant, and only realized the full extent of the genetic issues after the birth - she says in the original post that if they had been told about the actual disorder while she was pregnant, they would’ve terminated the pregnancy.
@Wolfie42069-
@Wolfie42069- 3 жыл бұрын
Not trying to sound like a total asshole, but what would you do? You and your other child basically cannot have a life at this point, it would be extremely hard to do anything you or your other child want to do. The mother clearly has already had enough struggles with taking care of her own child, how is she supposed to take care of this kid when he is 30? (If he possibly could live that along) she would likely be elderly and could not take care of herself.
@lexirosemary641
@lexirosemary641 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wolfie42069- oh for sure. I don’t blame her like I said. But some of the language she used to describe the child was so hateful it made me cringe a little bit. Like that’s still your child and at the end of the day, they didn’t chose to be like that. It makes me uncomfortable her saying that she never wants to see them again too because like, that’s genuinely so sad.
@Oohkamitama
@Oohkamitama 10 ай бұрын
I’ve recently had to help my parents take care of my grandmother who possibly has dementia. We were originally thinking she just had the usual old person forgetfulness or something but no, it was as if she was a completely different person living with us. Things happened which caused the atmosphere within the house to become very tense. Eventually, we had no choice but to omit her into a nursing home. Although not as severe as the OP situation, I understand where she’s coming from.
@InsomniOwl_
@InsomniOwl_ 2 жыл бұрын
My niece is Autistic and non-verbal. I cannot imagine having a severely disabled child.. I can imagine but it's very complicated and sad. This story is sad and I feel empathy for everyone involved.
@doorbell8132
@doorbell8132 3 жыл бұрын
I mean...I probably would have done the same thing.
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 3 жыл бұрын
I would have done it much sooner than her.
@dawg1510
@dawg1510 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly if it wasnt illegal i would just put him out of his misery. If i was in the position where i couldn’t even breathe on my own i would want to end myself or for someone to end me
@501thtrooper4
@501thtrooper4 3 жыл бұрын
Id do the same lmao.
@BethAnnMayberry
@BethAnnMayberry 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I don't know what I would do. I am disabled, so there is that, but I do not think she was WRONG to place him in full-time care. I think it is probably the best thing for *all* involved. She can be a better mother for her other child and that's a big thing. The only thing I sort of blame her for is the way she *talks* about him. Calling him a thing, a cucumber, etc. I don't think placing him there is wrong. I just don't like the WORDING.
@nicluvsyou237
@nicluvsyou237 2 жыл бұрын
same same
@comedicsociopathy
@comedicsociopathy Жыл бұрын
I understand the wording and it's not like the son even understands any of it. I'm disabled too but that thing is barely alive and sucked the joy out of everyone. She should have given him away sooner but society is so damn obsessed with women sacrificing everything for their children even if it's a living hell that I understand she couldn't do it sooner. I'm not in her shoes and I'm just glad she can care for her other child now.
@ladybugscanswim
@ladybugscanswim Жыл бұрын
I feel like he’s not disabled, but dead being forced to be medically alive. If you need life support you’re not really alive, let nature take its course and kill him. If I was him, I’d want to be dead if I had any wants at all. I strongly believe in reincarnation and a beautiful after life so its easier for me to let people go, so keep that in mind…
@truebornseeker9767
@truebornseeker9767 Жыл бұрын
@@comedicsociopathy I still think her wording is harsh, even if he’ll never be able to understand it, but I can understand her harshness with how he essentially ruined her and her eldest’s life without even having the ability to be aware of it Though I agree with the rest. The only reason she kept him around for so long is the societal guilt tripping and expectation to sacrifice *everything* for a child, even if no one in the situation are getting anything good about it. She absolutely made the right choice to give him up to a care home, for the sake of everyone including him. Her being his mother shouldnt guarantee much other than her want for him to be happy, if he can feel happiness. Her being forced to take care of this child she can barely take care of on her own, while both her and her eldest son are suffering. Him being in the home isn’t doing any good for anyone. Her wording is harsh, and is upsetting, but I can understand it when you’re that drained by someone that can’t even thank you for your sacrifices, or be aware of how hard you’re working
@purplespaceship2417
@purplespaceship2417 Жыл бұрын
Until you're in that position yourself you'll never understand. I would never judge her for her feelings towards her son - however I would say that it's a mistake to even have a child in the first place if you're not fully accepting of being in scenario like this. There's absolutely zero way to ensure you will have a healthy normal-functioning child, and even if they are born that way all kinds of things can happen that could later render them severely disabled and needing full time care for the rest of their life. A family I know had a perfectly normal healthy boy that contracted meningitis decades ago - ever since then he has been non-verbal and severely cognitively disabled.
@theSemiChrist
@theSemiChrist 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the strongest arguments for euthanasia I've heard. Imagine being in that hell. Unable to express anything ever.
@dylanhunley13
@dylanhunley13 9 ай бұрын
While I don't agree with her wording, I do feel for her and that's a horrible thing for a human to go through. Just an empty shell, I can't imagine how that must feel.
@buzz4205
@buzz4205 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of anyone's opinions, there is a saying in greek that says: Outside of the dance many songs are sang. People that have never experienced a problem/ a problematic situation, might say lots of stuff about it, even though they'll never truly understand it.
@thepeopleslast2579
@thepeopleslast2579 3 жыл бұрын
He let her younger disabled son get assaulted and she just watched.
@thepeopleslast2579
@thepeopleslast2579 3 жыл бұрын
@PestoMayo I definitely have and suffer from a severe panic disorder, she could have stopped him and asked him after why it happened and still decided to give her son up to a place that could care for him, she sounds completely aware and continues to dehumanize him after describing the incident, she doesn't even sound upset that her other son assaulted the youngest and that is why I think she deserves criticism. Not for her choice to put her child away from danger and in a place prepared to take care of him but because of her ableist language and dehumanization of the child (which is influencing the comment section heavily) and for standing by as he was hurt. I wonder how yall would've changed your mind about her treatment of him if in that moment he showed fear the way you're used to would it suddenly be worse? Is it okay only because he can't scream or cry? Does he deserve to be spoken of in that way? To be blamed for his father's death? Would he matter more? Would she be worse in your eyes?
@thepeopleslast2579
@thepeopleslast2579 3 жыл бұрын
@PestoMayo I do understand but I've had to save my sister from a spontaneous physical assault from our mother and in the middle of my panic attack and dissacosiation I still jumped in my sister's defense before my mother was able to finish a sentence. She even mentioned she wasn't even horrified she just stood and watched. And even if you were right that still does not excuse the rest of her actions like dehumanizing her son and blaming him for his father's death or mean she can't be critized for her actions. Her son dying wouldn't have been out of the realm of possibility given how fragile she described him. We would criticize her if her son could cry or show pain or even if he was in a coma
@Revoltine
@Revoltine 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, majority of people will always view moral situations as if they will always happen when a person's state of mind is within ideal expectations. It doesn't disqualify their opinion at all but it discredits the premise of their argument as they never will truly understand that reality will always be different. Idealists will and always never be able to display true sympathy and condemn those who don't conform to their moral beliefs.
@70sman
@70sman 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in that kids situation. Yelled at, screamed at, hurt because of my disability. I don't really care how the mother feels at that point.
@Ravethecat12
@Ravethecat12 3 жыл бұрын
This is partly why I’m terrified of having kids/made the choice to never have any. I couldn’t give up my whole life for a healthy baby let alone one that needed extra special care like this. I’d be so very miserable.
@CaptainCaterpillars
@CaptainCaterpillars 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I’m currently pregnant but if I find out that there is any severe disability, I plan to abort and my husband agrees. I don’t mind a disabled child but not one that wouldn’t have any quality of life.
@mocotojam6767
@mocotojam6767 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainCaterpillars and you shouldn't be shamed to think like this, congratulations on the baby!
@TO-yq2qw
@TO-yq2qw 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainCaterpillars it’s not about what you want it’s about what’s right Would you like to be disabled, and also know that your parents brought you to life knowing you were going to be like that?
@CaptainCaterpillars
@CaptainCaterpillars 3 жыл бұрын
@@TO-yq2qw - The right and humane thing would be to abort. Plain and simple. You can think you have the moral high ground but you’re clearly not someone severely disabled.
@ferrisbueller9991
@ferrisbueller9991 3 жыл бұрын
Kurt Cobain said similar things in an interview, also about "how could you bring someone into this awful world?" But "you fall in love." If Courtney Love can have this effect on a person most everyone else can have said effect on anyone else. The dark thoughts you speak of make sense to me but we were wired to produce, once the oxytocin hits the veins people take on a far more optimistic view. Feels good to feel good so it's self perpetuating, the key to romanticism. Of course the higher you fly the harder the fall so best have some concept of life meaning more than just happiness.
@ryfr6711
@ryfr6711 2 жыл бұрын
I just can’t get over her calling her child a potato and a malignant lump, when NOTHING is his fault. I understand her issues but being vile about the boy is really, really cold.
@DeadAndAliveCat
@DeadAndAliveCat 11 ай бұрын
Womp womp
@Diasoar
@Diasoar 10 ай бұрын
I agree. After all she made the decision to have the child no? Like why are you blaming a child bc you can't go out to party, you made the decision to bring a human into this world. You are responsible for them.
@bigoltits1880
@bigoltits1880 10 ай бұрын
She's allowed to vent, in fact she NEEDS to vent. Her casual roasts was just her expressing her frustrations. It may not be the potato's fault, but the potato HAS ruined her life. Both of these things are true. And it's not like the thing is capable of being offended if it even understood the insult of being called a potato. I laughed out loud when she called him a cucumber too - humour is often the ONLY tool left in the survival toolkit of someone in a situation as desperate as hers. I hope she smiled when she called him those names, this post was about HER, not about her potato. She gets to vent. You judge all you want, but you just look like a humourless d1ck lmao
@shashaofficial1099
@shashaofficial1099 10 ай бұрын
@@DeadAndAliveCat🤓☝🏻
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 10 ай бұрын
@@Diasoaryou generally don’t decide to have a child with disabilities so great that you need to build a hospital room in your home
@Nebnub
@Nebnub 2 жыл бұрын
If I was that disabled I would rather be put out if my misery honestly
@PkmariO64
@PkmariO64 3 жыл бұрын
I have a physical disability myself, which I was born with, albeit one that’s nowhere near as severe as what the child in this story has. To be completely honest, I’m not entirely sure what I would do if I was in the mother’s situation either. Regardless, this story has given me a new outlook on things that I had never really thought about before.
@gloomycandy101
@gloomycandy101 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I was born with a genetic condition that has me physically disabled and... I’m really not sure how I feel here. I can’t lie and say the immediate “she did the right thing” comments don’t sting a little, but at the same time I don’t know what I would do if I was her.
@tristantheoofer2
@tristantheoofer2 3 жыл бұрын
same. i cant see out of one eye (bc rop at 9 months) and le other is 20/450-600 without glasses (20/25 with lul). o also i have autism. idk i agree dat the mother did the right thing tbh. why the insults tho?
@KlutzyNinjaKitty
@KlutzyNinjaKitty 3 жыл бұрын
While not a physical disability, I have ADHD and my brother is non-verbal and autistic. There are some things he’s really good at and others where he’s really delayed. While we both might not live “normal” lives we both can still feel (both physically and emotionally) and respond to things. That’s, I think, where the line is drawn. If there’s the capability for the person to experience joy and happiness, to be able to do things and have hobbies and actually live life, then efforts should be made to help the child learn and grow and to help facilitate that happiness. But with a child like the mother’s younger son, even if he could feel on a physical and emotional level, he can’t respond to the world around him. If he had interests, he can’t express them or act upon them. I hope that boy doesn’t have comprehension for his own sake, because being trapped in your own body like that must me literal hell.
@rockeater5580
@rockeater5580 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, i feel bad for that kid. Imagine not being able to move, to talk, to do any physical action. I hope that he can somehow get in anyway better.
@somerandomgoblin2583
@somerandomgoblin2583 2 жыл бұрын
I hope, for his own sake, that she is right in assuming he has no consciousness or awareness. That way, he wouldn't be silently suffering and traumatized for the things done to him. However, I can't help but think that he is, and has absolutely no way of expressing it. I hope she was right about him, just so he wouldn't have had to deal with the treatment he received.
@Nonayabizness360
@Nonayabizness360 Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for her, her doctors failed her and her unborn now born son that really isn’t even a son. If they could have told her how horrible his condition was she wouldn’t have carried the pregnancy to full term. I also helped my mother take care of my father in the end stages of Alzheimer’s disease and his whole body was locked up, he was in adult diapers and he couldn’t speak. I was watching the strongest human being that I had ever known suffering and I could see it in his eyes that he was terrified and in horrible pain, I could also see the toll it was taking on my mother, my husband who now has crushed disks in his spine from lifting my father and my mental health and the caregivers usually die first. I decided the last day of my father’s life that if I ever got that disease that I would take care of myself because I couldn’t do to my family what taking care of my father did. I hope this mother and her son finally found some happiness because they deserve it , they were a slave to an empty shell that wasn’t even a functioning human being. Being human is someone who can return your emotions or feel joy existing is not living.
@saoirseferland4585
@saoirseferland4585 Жыл бұрын
I can understand and even agree with her actions involving putting her son in a care facility while finding her wording and acceptance of her older son's abuse of a literal disabled child absolutely disgusting. You'd think she would have at least self-censored her post a little, but no, full of ableist rhetoric that is really gross.
@sarasmr4278
@sarasmr4278 3 жыл бұрын
I have a severely disabled adult son who requires 24/7 care. I gave up my education and career to become his full time caregiver. He functions at a toddler level and always will. I will care for him for the rest of my life and I am happy to do so. This mother is absolutely making the right decision for her family. I hope at some point in the future she can let go of all the anger and resentment, and I hope she and her surviving (older) child can live full and happy lives going forward. *You said 20 hours a week is only "half the time." I just want to point out that those 20 hours a week would be the ONLY TIME this woman has available to do ANYTHING outside the house. It may be this child has a school or day program he can go while she works but even if that is the case -- and it may not be, he may be homebound, which would mean she cannot work at all -- the rest of her time is spent caring for him.
@sarasmr4278
@sarasmr4278 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinfar0re I believe this woman is deep in grief over her husband's suicide and the realization that despite her very best efforts she is failing her older child. r/confessions is for some people a safe place to anonymously say the things you would never say in real life. I think the anger and resentment she expresses are understandable. I sincerely hope she can move past that and perhaps even bring herself to visit her child in the future. To me this is just raw emotion she's pouring out and I'd rather she do that in writing than by harming herself or her child. When you're coping with that level of pain you have to find a safe outlet for it. I've been there and I've said things I wouldn't want anyone I loved to hear or read, but you have to get that out somehow so you can keep functioning.
@Safiyahalishah
@Safiyahalishah 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarasmr4278 Out of all the comments I've read on this video, I respect yours the most. You sound like an amazing person with unbelieveable strength and compassion. I wish you and your son all the best.
@12Tecpatl
@12Tecpatl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughtful comment and sharing your story. Wishing you and your son the best, you sound like a caring person
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinfar0re can you honestly say that you’d be standing on a perfect moral pinnacle if your husband died, your eldest son hates his life, and giving up your hopes, dreams, and entire life to care 24/7/365 for a person who is at worst, completely brain dead, and at best, trapped inside of their own head? Unable to express anything at all? What she did is reprehensible, for sure, but I really can’t say I wouldn’t harbor the same feelings she does in that situation.
@ad3lljfry289
@ad3lljfry289 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing! i think it’s crucial understanding another mother’s point of view
@hughmortyproductions8562
@hughmortyproductions8562 3 жыл бұрын
God damn. I have never understood the obsession that people have with keeping humans alive when they have no quality of life. If I were in that sort of condition I would not want to be kept alive. Just fucking kill me. It's honestly insane.
@EsplodingBomb
@EsplodingBomb 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I understand not wanting to give up on a child, but there's a certain point where nature has to be allowed to take its course. I'd definitely say having no reaction to any stimulus, and zero ways to express himself reaches that level. The fact they don't and really can't know if he is conscious or in pain makes it feel entirely cruel to keep someone alive when they are essentially trapped in their own useless body...
@CFABosnia
@CFABosnia 2 жыл бұрын
She could legally cut off oxygen supply
@MrRichManGuy
@MrRichManGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I could see WHY, I mean I understand a grieving parent not being able to come to terms with it but... I agree. The humane thing to do would be to let them pass on.
@cheekibreeki904
@cheekibreeki904 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite simple. Because the alternative to it is to believe that human life has no inherent value, that it's not worth fighting for. By using some creative thinking, as well as a certain famous German painter's ideology, you can easily imagine where this path might lead. Even regardless of morals, the current state of events is simply less harmful to humanity as a whole.
@hughmortyproductions8562
@hughmortyproductions8562 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheekibreeki904 I don't believe that human lives are more valuable than animal lives just by virtue of being human. If you had a cat or a dog that was in that kind of state people would call you insane if you didn't euthanize it. But when it's a human not only will people not euthanize it, but they'll spend tens of thousands of dollars (or more) giving it medical treatment to keep it alive artificially. That's pretty fucked up when you think about it.
@gelenamccain1848
@gelenamccain1848 Жыл бұрын
This has got to be the saddest issue a mother would have to face, how you resent a child so much but this child can’t help himself or hopefully isn’t aware that he is resented, don’t know how I would handle this. But so many stories of children ending up with their life taken by a parent I would say giving him up is definitely the best outcome. Especially since he is called all types of words I could never call my child. So sad in so many ways.
@terrionthirsty828
@terrionthirsty828 Жыл бұрын
Seems like your have a good understanding of the demographic passing through your channel. Love that you you are willing to explore scenarios that aren't "traditionally" disturbing. I can also see that you think deeply about the topics that you choose to cover. Awesome channel. Keep exploring and maintain the respect you have for human experiences.
@lykoslove1053
@lykoslove1053 3 жыл бұрын
Lest us not forget the r/confessions mod on this post who made a lengthy reply detailing how her story was impossible and suggested using better lies Edit: Just wanna say this was meant to simply point out the mod’s rude behavior and weird handling of the situation
@maivaiva1412
@maivaiva1412 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarethdarva she claimed it's 3p mosaic deletion-duplication syndrome, but to be honest, the described severity is a little sus.
@LakinMae5
@LakinMae5 3 жыл бұрын
There is Locked in Syndrome, which is a rare case of some like this happening so there is that! I never heard a case of Down Syndrome causing something like this or any other explanation! Seems like many medical conditions cobbled into one, and not one distinctive condition!
@endergamer7483
@endergamer7483 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I would hope this is some sick lie, because the woman is very resentful and selfish for calling her son “a lump” and allowing her abled son to beat up her disabled son. I would’ve been right fucking pissed if I caught my child doing this to their disabled sibling. Though knowing how parents (and my own mother’s treatment of me, a disabled individual), I have a small feeling this is real.
@dannylamb456
@dannylamb456 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the typical reddit mod who believes that just because a certain condition was never listed on Wikipedia, it could never possibly be a condition in the massive medical field
@sadieireland8282
@sadieireland8282 3 жыл бұрын
@@endergamer7483 Yea, I'd love to see you in the same situation and see how wonderfully you'd handle it.
@lucianh9465
@lucianh9465 3 жыл бұрын
i absolutely hate the way she speaks about this child but i cant blame her for sending him to a care facility. he doesnt live a life and im honestly surprised that he's made it this far. it honestly seems cruel to me
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I’d rather die than be alive without a life. If he is conscious in there, he must be experiencing hell. If he’s not, then idek at that point.
@royalcupcake4243
@royalcupcake4243 Жыл бұрын
I don’t blame OP for her decision. I think it was the right one that should’ve been made years ago. I relate heavily to her older child, being the older sister of a special needs kid myself. My sister has a genetic duplication, which I won’t name because she is the literal poster child and could be found very easily, and has cerebral palsy. She was born with her hips in her stomach, and no hip sockets. She had had 5 surgeries by the time she was 2, all on her hips and feet, even having her Achilles’ tendon cut so it could heal in a proper position. From the time I could remember I was playing in hospital waiting rooms, learning what physical therapy she had to do so I could help at home, and translating for my sisters garbled English when she finally learned to talk. We shared a room and I had to be on the look out in case she stopped breathing, something I had been so trained to do that I woke up from a dead sleep because I couldn’t hear her breathing. I had to teach myself all the things a parent usually teaches- how to ride a bike, how to paint my nails, how to braid and manage my hair. My mom tried her best, and I’m not saying I had a poor childhood, she had three kids, all of us being two years apart, and I imagine it was a struggle for her. But I know how hard it is for me as the older sibling, even today. I still have to translate what she says, or drive her places, or bring her a change of clothes when something happens at school. She does a ton of after school activities, and I’m always the one who has to make the time to get her there and pick her up. My sister isn’t as bad as most people imagine someone with cerebral palsy to be, she can function as a human for the most part, but she has the emotional maturity of a 10 year old when she’s almost 18, and the reading level of a 2nd grader. I will be stuck for the rest of my life picking up after her and making sure she gets taken care of, something I’ve accepted. But it is hard to see all your parents attention, time, and money go to someone who doesn’t seem to care or understand the value of what they have. I’m lucky in the sense that she can still do many things on her own, I can’t imagine what it would be like if she was worse
@baileymoran8585
@baileymoran8585 2 жыл бұрын
She is cruel and honestly should not have any children. The kid should 100% be in the facility for his benefit, not hers. I hate how he is a prisoner in his body. I feel horrible for him and I can’t imagine this being any quality of life. It’s one thing to be burnt out and vent, but she is playing the part of the victim and talking about her child in a horrible, terrible way.
@PixieQuin
@PixieQuin 3 жыл бұрын
i understand where she's coming from. i really disliked how she spoke about him though, that was cruel
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. IMO there would be very little controversy if she just left out the ‘sorry not sorry’ part.
@meowmaximum2838
@meowmaximum2838 3 жыл бұрын
How can you be cruel to something that is nothing
@PixieQuin
@PixieQuin 3 жыл бұрын
@@meowmaximum2838 well based on your similar mentality to the mother, obviously you're not going to agree with me
@diegobrando2750
@diegobrando2750 3 жыл бұрын
@@meowmaximum2838 How do you know they're nothing, genius? Even the mother doesn't know if they have awareness.
@deadbydanuwu5692
@deadbydanuwu5692 3 жыл бұрын
I like your perfect blue pfp. Good anime.
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 3 жыл бұрын
This opens a whole host of moral questions. If this had been her pet dog, everyone would be recommending she be "doing the right thing" to spare its suffering and humanely put it to sleep. It wouldn't even be a question. But a human has to live on no matter what and has no such 'luxury'.
@no_peace
@no_peace 2 жыл бұрын
If he were a dog, people would not forget that she let her emotionally disturbed son beat the crap out of a dog who literally never did anything to him
@Funeral_Mannequin
@Funeral_Mannequin Жыл бұрын
It's almost like dogs and humans are complex and different. Social media moment.
@husky0098
@husky0098 8 ай бұрын
@@Funeral_Mannequin They ARE complex and different. Which is why it's so bizarre that we essentially torture the one we hold to be of higher worth, whilst allowing mercy to the lesser.
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 Ай бұрын
Captialism has made sure to push this propaganda. Even with no "life", "living" humans are much more profitable to the biggest industries such as the medical and theraputical industries, some of the biggest and most sociopathic inhumane, and powerful, industries in the world. This woman was forced into hell and that child was forced ot exist in hell so that rich people could make more money off the "treatments". This story shows JUST how inhumane and deprived capitalism truly is.
@CloverCutieASMR
@CloverCutieASMR 2 жыл бұрын
For my Aunt's whole life she was kind of in the same situation. My grandmother loved her dearly and did her best to take care of her, but with my grandmother's failing health as well, taking care of her wasn't something she could do forever. The people at her care facility love their jobs and love taking care of her. They play movies for her, take her to "school", take pictures of her, play with her, bring her in the pool, bring her for walks, ect. They are also there 24/7 and have all the experience and skill they need to properly take care of her and keep her comfortable. My grandmother is in her 70's now and still talks about her and goes to see her all the time. With this child from the reddit post, not only will the family be more comfortable, but the disabled child will be too. He'll be getting around the clock care from people who actually want to help. Plus, with the older sibling being violent towards the younger one, this is a much safer option. Making a choice like this shouldn't be something discouraged because it's beneficial to everyone involved. My grandmother had more time for my mom and other aunt, my aunt gets around the clock medical care, and the nurses that take care of her love her.
@moonpai3668
@moonpai3668 10 ай бұрын
I’m disabled and I agree with her in a way. She should’ve placed him in care sooner and she shouldn’t talk about her child like that. Even if he isn’t aware or anything, he IS a person no matter what.
@garrettlauderbaugh312
@garrettlauderbaugh312 3 жыл бұрын
Despite the harsh language, she definitely made the right choice. Literally all parties involved benefit. The mom and first born get to have a normal life without thousands of dollars in medical bills, and the second born gets taken care of properly
@roonkolos
@roonkolos 3 жыл бұрын
I'm personally special needs myself. Nowhere even remotely close as this case but I still have my disabilities. I don't see them as gifts nor do I see them as something to be normal. I hate having this stuff. If I could keep my personality and have none of these downsides youre damn right id get rid of them I say this because if I feel this way about my personal disabilities, I can't fathom how this kid feels. If he's aware whether he can express it or not, that has to be a living hell. Its no way to live. The way she describes it all is heartless but as someone thats in a far better situation, I honestly do understand in a sort of way. I'm not entirely happy saying that
@apolloandwarrior_3229
@apolloandwarrior_3229 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that is really difficult is the idea of euthenaisa. It really should be normalized. Being trapped in a body only to suffer isn't fair and just because one person says something they shouldn't be forced to live a life where everything is just pain. I do think it's cruel to make a person live like that and honestly you really can't call them alive at all if they can't do something even a basic amoeba can accomplish.
@CFABosnia
@CFABosnia 2 жыл бұрын
Not everything is about you
@PhoenixRoseYT
@PhoenixRoseYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@apolloandwarrior_3229 plus euthanasia is far far more humane than cutting off life support. With the latter, you make them starve or suffocate to death. The former allows them to go to sleep and just not wake up.
@anti_fragile
@anti_fragile 2 жыл бұрын
@@apolloandwarrior_3229 Normalizing or legalizing euthanizing disabled kids and people will not go the way you think it will. You are aware that it's a common occurence for parents of disabled children to kill their children? Even children that aren't quite at the level the child in the story is? What do you think would happen if those parents , more parents , were told that that's a valid option and can be done legally , without the child's consent? You can have your thoughts about euthanasia for this child or for people like him but normalizing the idea of euthanasia for disabled people at any level isn't a good idea.
@no_peace
@no_peace 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if it's a kindness or not, you can't have a policy of euthanizing people who can't consent You cannot do it
@barbarossa1780
@barbarossa1780 Жыл бұрын
Most mothers who feel this way end up “unaliving” their child, so if this is how she feels she needs to give up the child.
@percyc27
@percyc27 2 жыл бұрын
As a disabled person & the caretaker of a disabled family member, her decision is actually very responsible. A lot of people in her position would've probably murdered that child. We in the disability community see it happen all the time. And while there are issues in some residential homes & hospice facilities, they're still far more eqquiped to handle this child's care than a single mother with other children to worry about. While the way she speaks about this child in troubling, the fact that she's handing him off to people who literally work in the medical care field rather than taking out all of her negative feelings on him is very much a good thing. I do second any recommendations from other commentors that both she & her elder son seek therapy in the wake of this, assuredly.
@TheMadQueen96
@TheMadQueen96 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I wanted to dislike the mother here (especially given how she talks about the child), I found that I just couldn't. I think that her language is a result of just being pushed too far over the past few years, much like her oldest son and honestly, putting the son in care is the best choice. Doing it sooner would've been for the best though.
@no_peace
@no_peace 2 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting who gets excuses made for them and who doesn't
@krisj5561
@krisj5561 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck cannot you not hate this abhorrent excuse for a human? She should lose her other child!
@catwithevilintentions2632
@catwithevilintentions2632 2 жыл бұрын
@@no_peace I'm genuinely confused on what you're trying to say-
@jacyaug
@jacyaug 2 жыл бұрын
@@no_peace I doubt you would behave better in the same situation.
@secretaardvark679
@secretaardvark679 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacyaug definitely would have. She seems like she has no grip over the death of her husband.
@thunderfire741
@thunderfire741 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I heard this, I've always sided with her without a doubt. Medical bills just ruin families and sometimes need to be let go after a point
@alfiegordon9013
@alfiegordon9013 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who didn't even think about the medical bills, I side with her 100%. This is a fucked up scenario regardless of your opinion of her though I guess
@thepeopleslast2579
@thepeopleslast2579 3 жыл бұрын
She let her son get assaulted by his older brother.
@LeshyIsAlive
@LeshyIsAlive 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepeopleslast2579 her older brother feels so much pain and hatred, she feels nothing towards the younger one, the youngest one can’t feel or react, it doesn’t even know what is going on- she lost her husband because of it, she basically lost her own life. And her eldest lost his father and his mother, I don’t blame her for not reacting, at that point I wouldn’t have reacted either, let’s be honest.. the youngest one would’ve been better off if the eldest one had kill it, that life must be so much pain- unable to move, unable to even think.
@thepeopleslast2579
@thepeopleslast2579 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeshyIsAlive you're a disgusting person. He is not an it no matter how much you or his mother say it. He didn't take her husband her husband CHOSE to kill himself that was no one's fault but his decision. I know that little boy was in pain that doesn't excuse his or his mother's actions. Or do disable people only deserve to live when you deem it so?
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepeopleslast2579 he is not disabled. He is brain dead. It's different. But I agree with you the beating part is fucked up.
@moved_accounts
@moved_accounts Жыл бұрын
As a neurodivergent person (Autism+ADHD), I can kind of see where she’s coming from, but at the same time.. the things she called him are just not okay. No one in the situation asked for this, it’s not the kids fault. It’s no one’s fault. I can agree that it was definitely a huge burden for her, especially as a single mother. With me, I only need some simple accommodations to make sure I can keep myself calm throughout the day, but this kid needed care 24/7… I really cannot imagine having to do that. I think the kid would have a better life being taken care of by people who are qualified for it.
@achristine80
@achristine80 Жыл бұрын
That child would be better in a facility, away from his mother. This mother is a terrible person. Not bc she put her child in a facility, not bc she was exhausted or bc she felt burdened. It’s bc she said all those horrible things about an innocent boy that she gave birth to. No matter how inconvenient her life is with a handicapped child, there’s NOTHING that could justify her hateful words. Nothing
@Crawfishness
@Crawfishness Жыл бұрын
Such immense amounts of stress and exhaustion can change a person. I don't think it's right to judge her for things she said at her lowest point.
@MudkipzLuvr
@MudkipzLuvr 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a mother of 4. I hate to openly admit that in the womb, I felt protective of my children and I cared deeply for them, but it took a few weeks after they were born to fully love them, grow attached to them, and to go into some form of “mama bear” protective mode. (FWIW: I’m not the only one. That instant love at first sight seems to be a fairy tail for most parents, especially moms) Just giving another perspective... As far as the disabled child goes, I could not see myself ever growing attached to something that isn’t aware. At all. It’s as you’re spending your whole life taking care of something that is essentially useless. Something that is literally draining your life essence away, and the life away from two others. Three people are immediately suffering for the benefit of one, and now it’s only two. It’s only a matter of time before he drains completely another person, whether it’s the mom or son. Call me cruel, but he needs to go.
@grapeape4589
@grapeape4589 3 жыл бұрын
Although i am a man i can fully agree. I dont know how i would get attatched to a child that literally felt nothing and did nothing.
@lovergirl5013
@lovergirl5013 3 жыл бұрын
my mom said she loved me when i was born, but it took her a few months to feel a real connection with me
@bigbubbles55
@bigbubbles55 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I think that is a safeguard put in place when we were a lot more primitive of a species, when child mortality rates were much higher....
@FLHerbologistLaura
@FLHerbologistLaura 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I got pregnant unexpectedly and have mental health issues. I didnt feel any connection in my stomach... and had talked to someone about adoption... the second he was born, placed on my chest, and softly cried as he nuzzled up to me- was a world changing moment. I had no idea love could be that strong and sudden. He was colicky, and cried constantly, it took a few weeks for me to get in the swing of things, and as we both settled into our routine my bond with him, and love, became stronger. He’s 10 now and is my best bud 💚 he is so perfect (in a punky 10 yo way) and I’m so so grateful he didn’t inherit my mental health issues, or any genetic damages because of the meds I was on and the crazy party life I was living. I cannot imagine my life without him. Alternatively, my parents shipped me away to instatutiins, schools, care facilities, etc when I was growing up and even most of my 20s... they never felt sorry for it and I don’t blame them. I’m the oldest of 3 children and was taking all of my parents attention, all the family finances were spent on my crap, and my younger siblings resented me for taking my parents time. Now I’m older I understand, however I’m not close with my brother or sister and I wish I was. They grew up hating me for my chaos and my parents never taught them (or learned themselves) how to work with me and how my brain works, patiently with compassion and love- or that mental health issues are not criminal (or even a major disability like in the story). My son came into my life for a reason. I can teach him how to be kind and compassionate to everyone, especially those with disabilities. I do not agree with most of my parents decisions and would never do that to my son, but I have a strong connection with him. I absolutely understand why my parents did it to me and I totally agree with the story. It’s heartbreaking, but I get it.
@hosermandeusl2468
@hosermandeusl2468 3 жыл бұрын
As a caregiver, I've seen this too many times. "God has a way of sticking it in & breaking it off." - George Clooney, From Dusk Until Dawn
@VanessaScrillions
@VanessaScrillions 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched that and that line really struck me! The dad just says "yup." lol
@Sammael251
@Sammael251 11 ай бұрын
The sad truth is that child wasn't supposed to be born. He was not a viable human being, and should not have made it to birth. He's not her son. He is a non sapient collection of cells from her and her husband. It's horrible, and it's heartbreaking, but caring for "him" is utterly pointless. It literally accomplishes nothing at all.
@KnappKnits
@KnappKnits 6 ай бұрын
That poor woman. My heart goes out to her.
@magolor64
@magolor64 3 жыл бұрын
If i were put on life support with no possibility of having a normal life anymore or became just completely braindead, I wouldn't want myself to suffer any long or have anyone else be burdened with having to care for me and the monetary costs it comes with. I'd ask to have them pull the plug on me if that were to ever happen. I wouldn't want a child of mine to suffer the same if they struggle to even stay alive on their own AND be braindead like her child. It's not worth it for neither the parent nor child.
@Thormaturgy
@Thormaturgy 3 жыл бұрын
My wife is currently pregnant. We’ve had the discussion, where if we find that our child is going to be anything like this, that we will terminate. It would crush us, but we don’t see a point in bringing something like this into the world.
@ericmiller1102
@ericmiller1102 3 жыл бұрын
Happened to my younger brother. He would’ve been completely co dependent and my parents did see a reason no matter how heartbreaking it was
@shinysnake
@shinysnake 3 жыл бұрын
Please don't.
@mel7906
@mel7906 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinysnake Lily doesn't want ya'll to terminate if ever in such a situation. You can give Lily the child instead ^-^b no need to supply child or medical support!
@chazzcoolidge2654
@chazzcoolidge2654 3 жыл бұрын
At least there's still some sanity in the world. I work with people that are perhaps half as bad as this vegetable and it's taxing enough having to be around them without even being a caregiver. Some are just so oblivious that they make their own hazards out of even hot water.
@godsstrongestmagicalgirl5217
@godsstrongestmagicalgirl5217 3 жыл бұрын
@@mel7906 LMFAOOO
@evaflintironstag9356
@evaflintironstag9356 2 жыл бұрын
Huge amount of compassion for the mother. There are a thousand heartbreaks that led to this decision--sorrow and stress suffered by so many that no one on the sidelines can understand. She isn't dumping him on the side of the road. She's giving him up to be cared for.
@abdihassan7208
@abdihassan7208 Жыл бұрын
Did you not hear when she used to abuse the child....
@dylancampbell1165
@dylancampbell1165 Жыл бұрын
This is horrific, he’s not alive huh? He’s breathing therefore he’s alive. Every human life is precious. I would never abandon my kids no matter the costs
@prairiepalms
@prairiepalms Жыл бұрын
the costs are your spouse ending their life leaving you alone to do this. The costs are your FOREVER mentally broken older children never adjusting properly. Everyone must suffer. EVERYONE. no one is spared from death or heartbreak. you just destroyed multiple peoples lives forever because of your decision. 🤷‍♂