UBC 2021 Final: MOCHY vs DIRK (Day 2 Match 9) Backgammon

[@chrisbrant3800]

A big thanks to everyone involved in this production. I´m sure I´m not the only one who´s going to watch these videos over and over again.

[@RobertWiblin]

Here's Dirk's 'Luck (Joker)' factor (in terms of points of equity gained or lost) from the last screenshot I could see from each match so far: Match 1 -1.861 Match 2 -1.064 Match 3 +3.180 Match 4 -1.529 Match 5 -0.197 Match 6 -3.356 Match 7 -4.010 Match 8 -3.807 Match 9 -3.751 Total -16.395 Average per match -1.822 Frankly it's pretty impressive he has managed to stay calm and in the game this long with a 1.8 point handicap in each match (and of course also facing someone who's playing the best backgammon a human ever has!).

[@juaniturbe]

Just wanted to say a bit thank you to the Galaxy team. Great play, amazing commentary, and fun learning from Michy! Can't wait for Galaxy V2 and the app!

[@mackenzieusher8025]

Thanks to the UBC team for another great production! Apart from the great backgammon that was played, I really enjoyed the camera angles (nice balance between seeing the players and seeing the board) and the more easily digestible video length. I was hoping to see the final average PRs to three decimal places, like you did last year, but of course that is a pretty insignificant detail, so who cares anyway haha. Just thought it was a nice touch. Cheers!

[@mackenzieusher8025]

Also thought I'd add that I wonder how UBC and Backgammon Galaxy would feel about adding playing/viewing in the other direction into their productions. I'm always surprised by the number of beginners who are not able to play in both directions. Having more exposure to bearing off on the left-hand side would hopefully help with this.

[@RevMonkey]

Great vid. Second only to the ones where top players discuss every move they make with their rationale. Nice one.

[@raivisbenefelds9881]

Mochy is king of backgammon💪

[@gurkantopuzlar8845]

Mochy is very very lucky.

[@cookie_monster3200]

Please correct me but Mochy has to be the luckiest player with all the perfect entries and hits…

[@derheglmeier]

gud one

[@rufust.firefly4890]

44:15>Absolutely brutal.

[@thamiosmgtow3678]

56:21 thats 4s and 3s won PR race and match... Mochy its the greatest player. thats a fact! Falafel and Mochy, this is two gods of backgammon.

[@jimphilidor9031]

I really loved watching this whole series of matches. I should really go to some local tournament too. I want to experience what it's like in a competition.

[@AntSeek]

Dirk has nerves of steel.

[@Meanstoend]

What blue checkers are you using? FM Gammon FMG or DMR!

[@bykailesi9164]

Mochynin zarlarida çok iyi geliyor

[@jakobfetz2904]

what program is being used to analyse the game ?

[@drdark9134]

When you put up the table of match scores and PR, I am sure I am not the only person who would have appreciated seeing the luck factors of both players. Although Mochy's PR was slightly higher I feel that the difference was not significant and that luck may have been the deciding factor in the final score line.

[@adamtorkelson8272]

They played a total of 63 points. Like 11 hours of fast paced playing. Huge number of rolls. Any luck one player may have had would have been countered by a roughly equal number of lucky rolls from the other player in that amount of time. It’s much more accurate to say skill affected the outcome more since both players made errors and blunders in every game. No one ever plays perfectly. Luck evens out over the long run.

[@drdark9134]

@@adamtorkelson8272 - I simply said that luck MAY have been a factor. Everything you said is supposition and I have to say, condescension. Showing us the luck factor removes the need for supposition. Why withhold info that is both informative and readily available.

[@adamtorkelson8272]

@@drdark9134 Not quite. You said it may have been the DECIDING factor and clearly implied the PR did not make a difference. Which is a non-sensical statement. What does that even mean? How does luck win you the game? Please explain in detail. I've never seen anyone who has made this claim give any comprehensible answer. Because this isn't Candyland, where the outcome is based only on one variable alone (a luck variable). There are a very large number of factors that determine a final outcome. Can you determine the "luck factor" yourself? The game is there for all to see with open information. Go through each move and analyze it yourself. XG shows the number of jokers rolled and its "luck calculations" on the same display as the PRs. There is nothing more needed. If you think luck wins you an entire game (whatever that means), then one wonders why you're even watching or playing the game at all. I don't even care how many jokers someone rolls. If I make a blunder by not cashing a game when I clearly should, and then my opponent rolls some double jokers to beat me, then luck didn't win the game for him even though he rolled a bunch of "lucky" rolls to beat me. It was completely my fault. It does not matter that he wouldn't have done it without all of that "luck". Even if we both played perfect PRs during that "garbage time" after my blunder. And what about each factor leading up to that position to begin with? Also, if you don't like my tone, then don't read my posts.

[@drdark9134]

@@adamtorkelson8272 A 'surmise' is not an 'IMPLICATION' and I deny implying anything. I simply asked to see the luck factors of the players, a request that seems to have sent you into some kind of logical paroxysm. Luck can be a big factor, how else do you account for Ken Goodman, an intermediate player even by the standards of the time, winning the World Championship in 1977?

[@adamtorkelson8272]

@@drdark9134 That is an argument from incredulity. Is that Championship Match notated anywhere online?

[@ekremsahin6116]

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[@ryanrebelo133]

wow Mochy just rolled right over Dirk in these matches.

[@seralex1996]

Gold

[@brianlaible565]

Do these guys do this as a career or do they have other jobs?

[@mackenzieusher8025]

They are among the few that succeed at doing this as a career.

[@georgekuiper3223]

@@mackenzieusher8025 how many others make this a career besides these two? seems like a pretty stressful way to make money with the luck factor involved.

[@mackenzieusher8025]

@@georgekuiper3223 Hard to say. I very much doubt anyone makes a living through money games and tournament winnings alone, though. Private lessons form probably the most reliable source of income for the best, and they can charge exorbitant prices. I suspect book publishing is relatively lucrative for the most successful as well. Enthusiasts are willing to pay top dollar for a decent book. I suspect some players, like Mochy, also have a sponsorship of sorts.

[@Hasan_CLK]

🎯👏👏👏👏

[@zogzog1063]

This was so one sided. Maybe Mochi's style suited mine but this was just one way traffic. I don't get it.

[@danielsrensen1837]

Should be the last game.

[@BackgammonGalaxy]

Not necessarily ;-)

[@herbertjeske7995]

I hope not

[@yeldayedgar5938]

What is the rules of how many times you have to role the dices before you throw them on the board? This Mochy guy has much luck. I think he is cheating when rolling the dice.

[@DavidKlausa]

The rules say you must shake the dice vigorously before rolling. This is commonly interpreted as at least 3x up and down. Mochy shakes the dice enough. Sometimes you just get lucky.

[@jimphilidor9031]

Better players are luckier. The most striking thing about this match is how well Mochy played. Everybody experiences crazy jokers or super unlucky rolls sometimes.

[@joeb3075]

slow

[@emreconur]

Mochys luck overshadowed his talent at backgammon

[@lmaoadl9723]

U must not play much

[@themerovingian7154]

Definitely not.

[@consumer61]

@@themerovingian7154 Mochy played phenomenal, better than Dirk, but he certainly got a lot luckier too (he won 8 out of 9 matches!!)

[@christopherfreeman2858]

If this is a shot at backgammon itself, that's fine. The nature of backgammon is at times unfair. Mochy will be given more challenges in the future. Always another time

[@lmaoadl9723]

Computer analysis should indicate who had the higher luck rating and skill rating.

[@orpaztron]

People do not understand that backgammongalaxy dice is fake and rigged. after thousands of games with a clear cube manipulation you can't reach other conclusion. To the naive who think this is a neutral cube because "that's what they say", I wish a lot of health. Clearly they no brain.