Winning the Cold Peace: A New Path for U.S.-China Relations with Fareed Zakaria

[@douglaswong8610]

Responsible state holder? You need a mirror to start with, who dropped the Atomic Bomb in Japan? Who went to war in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Palestine and Ukraine got American blood and fingerprint all over.

[@westhypocrisy]

The Chinese did not say the opposite! The Chinese did not ask the world to choose sides. You are very wrong !

[@anwiycti1585]

Asking is not Chinese style, influencing or manipulating more likely 😂😂😂

[@geoff9858]

​@@anwiycti1585 Better than a "democratic" country that does the same and more. Coups, regime change, threats, conflict and war.

[@Tenzin-m6t]

China does not ask anyone, it only gives orders. Same with Xi Jinping, he only gives orders. Chinese people are there to follow orders and not to ask or question. Chinese students tried with Tainnamen massacre and Hong Kong protest. Don’t ask, don’t question, don’t use your brain. Learn to show loyalty to the party and Xi Jinping.

[@websitemartian]

they lied about covid

[@ansa336]

@@anwiycti1585 Please read a bit of history, especially that of the US since her inception before writing about another country.

[@kanglu3640]

This entire speech frames China as a challenge. Perhaps they should see beyond their hubris and ideology (or discrimination) and see China as an opportunity. Why seek a fight simply because you “may” lose your top dog status?

[@TituIshtiaque]

Just 10 days earlier we visited Kunming Shanghai shangdong 12 day's. Our opinion India is 30+ years behind china. Europe 10 years behind china. USA maximum sectors 10+ year's behind china.

[@aryaman05]

@@TituIshtiaque How good is such a feel good assessment ? Can yo point to verifiable data to prove your claim, or is it yet another internet " trust me bro.." ?

[@aryaman05]

Listen carefully, it's a 'coming of age' type assessment, which he made on Turkey as well, with more countries joining the club as their economy and political stability empower them to.

[@ymzh777]

The speaker knows so little about china. He should have talked about India, which he may know better.

[@aryaman05]

I doubt it. The latter.

[@pardeeptandon]

Today, in PPP terms, the Chinese economy is 1.25 times larger than that of America. China was the largest economy in the world until 1820. America is the Joney come lately. A recent PEW (American) survey showed that 88 % of Chinese are happy with their political system and see a better future for their children, whereas only 28 % of Americans felt the same way. Today, the Chinese are enjoying the best period in their 4000-year history.

[@aftdel]

They should thank the West for inventing all the things they build today. They did not have the highest GDP per capita in the world before 1820 and in fact were well behind the West for most of the last 2000 years.

[@aftdel]

How about a thank you to the West. They invented everything China is building today, and not for their generosity and open embrace of free trade they wouldn’t have it now.

[@saif9765]

It's because, in US there is free press to talk about negatives of their political system while in China there is censorship. The standard of living is still much better in US.

[@aryaman05]

How useful is PPP GDP when sitting at the international table ? It's a feel good metric at best, skewed heavily to explain how local populace is able to continue living. That's about it.

[@tehcheechye8384]

​@@saif9765why the life expectancy of the bottom 50% of American is declining?

[@seekfunk3536]

Has China asked other countries to choose sides? No. It's the US that did that.

[@anwiycti1585]

China does not ask, it traps and coerces. 😂

[@Gman979]

Why is it only winning or losing instead of collaboration. Thucydides trap is a Western concept which doesn't work on the Chinese whose history is even longer.

[@anwiycti1585]

How about suntzu and guiguzi , tianji horse race?😂😂

[@willxwan6113]

Zaharia is not telling the truth. But he only unintentionally exposed that other countries can not develop themself for a better life. Or else the country is at fault to disturb the would peace. It is only one country has the right to be better off, which is the USA. Otherwise you are not a responsible stakeholder. You are bad.

[@anwiycti1585]

Develop for better life was the assumption in the nineties but proven not so😅😅

[@pardeeptandon]

@@anwiycti1585: Chinese & Indians constitute 40 % of humanity and lead a better life today. The 12 % white folks have been the losers.

[@lycao7451]

So much power, but can’t beat Russia! I wonder why?

[@qzhang25]

Mr Zakaria can always find lots of talking points to support US government regardless what US does.

[@rougedaug7251]

to understand any country is to have some appreciation of it's recent history and china is no exception. the speaker in this video gives zero context in which china had to deal with western imperialism over the last 200 years or it's role in global trade of the last 2500 years. this speaker mentions jeffrey sachs. if you want a broad and more contextualize understanding of today's china, sachs, will give you that

[@lilianlee7078]

I don’t think Zakaria has the up to date information on China! He is off the mark on some of his comments! I wonder whether he has visited China recently?

[@jasonjean2901]

Seriously? Zakaria didn't know that China has a pension system for the vast majority of its citizens? He doesn't know about their affordable healthcare? He knows so little about China, he really has no business discussing it.

[@DLAM19]

One has to realize that China has invest heavily in Latin America, Africa, Middle East, Asia, and don't forget about Eurasia! There's over 151 countries are members of the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative! Chinese government has the vision and long term goal knowing someday US will becoming an insignificant country in terms of trade since US really does not make anything! Chinese investment in developing countries will raise those countries' standard of living and thus will trade more with China! China graduates ten times more engineers than the US, nine out of ten PhD in the US university are foreigner students!

[@stephenyang2844]

It is up to US to accommodate China's rise peacefully, there is no permanent hegemony or exceptionalism.

[@soonpohtay4794]

His understanding of China is rather weak...

[@anwiycti1585]

Deep😂😂

[@catinbootsnow4267]

I would say his understanding of America is also somewhat illusive. The US was created upon European immigration and colonization, African slave trade, genocide of aboriginal people, and conquest and forced annexation of foreign territories. Rampant racism against minorities, widespread drug abuse, frequent gun violence, cruel exploitation of new immigrants as cheap labor, ridiculous gap between rich and poor, looting of global wealth through addictive money printing, economic and military coercion of "allies and foes" around the world, bombing and killing of millions of civilians in foreign lands under the cover of "human rights, democracy and liberty", are some of the key features of American led so called "rule based international order". The American tyranny of dictatorship on international order based on lie fabrication, economic coercion and military bullying will soon come to a slow end, following the outcry from the world against the atrocities happening in Gaza. A truely open, free and democratic international order based on UN Charter will be restored for all of humankind, which is exactly what the Global Development Initiative, Global Security Initiative and Global Civilization Initiative are looking for.

[@ml2k8]

Lmao. China issues are not that great compared to here in USA. $36T in debt and growing. 1.4b people but their retirement age is now at 50s… easily can move to 60s. Pension / social security in USA is going bankrupt. China has cheap healthcare. People easily gets the care they need. Family value is strong. Saving is strong. US is all about credit card debt. Divided country w polarizing news here. No leadership. Internal collapsing here is reality. China just has to march along at 5% growth. China is leading in EV, solar, and green energy. It is strategic in its investment and planning. Fix thy internal problems and get stronger… looking to weaken others is what USA does and china won’t be weaken… people are smart, work hard and have ethics

[@greengrin9401]

only lazy people dont succeed in america with how strong the economy is. how come immigrants from all over the world come to america and succeed and even send money back home? how come no one wants to go to china to improve their lives hehehehehehe

[@pardeeptandon]

Today, the wealthiest newborn in the world is Chinese, who inherit the tax-free wealth of 14 ancestors. This is curtsy three generations of the one-child policy. If a Child inherits the wealth of 14 ancestors, he owns two mortgage-free homes and can easily care for the retirees.

[@sunilaraganji1466]

We misused our position as superpower.😢

[@TheGreatness-gg1jx]

No we didn't. We had traitors in charge. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama.

[@breezeanonymous6034]

Who 'we'? Fascist Russia has attacked another country, China is attacking Phillipines, Taiwan etc. And forget about the third world or 'global South's, most violent places on earth.

[@Space_Magic_cube]

@@breezeanonymous6034 really funny，，you provoke Philippines and Taiwan etc. you really have a "good" month.

[@yeejlilys9742]

is it making common sense to say or imply that China is to be blamed for everything which causes the tension between the US and China?

[@anwiycti1585]

common sense 👍👍 Responsible and to-be-blamed are different expressions of the same reality😂😂

[@Andromeda365]

He talks a lot about history but forgot the most important history lesson. All empires, no matter how powerful they are, will always fall or decline. No country can stay number forever. it's impossible and goes against the natural order of things.

[@GIZMO3380]

😂😂😂 China basically defending it's interest n why should China follow Western dominance n make China vassal. U hope so 😂😂😂😂

[@tonyxu1800]

Inside of this speech, there is no right or wrong, no justice or injustice. It is shame to have such educational event to college students. We need to spread more about humanity, peace, love, prosperous for all in the world.

[@satyendrarai]

Awesone to hear Fareed as always, one of my favourite analysts.

[@gw1284]

Disagree your main thesis, you win peace, one makes peace, not winning, your mentality is that you can not afford to lose

[@willxwan6113]

China is communist. However, when China was poor under Mao, it is a good communist and can be a responsible stakeholder; when China got rich & strong, it is a bad communist and can not be a responsible stakeholder.

[@navneet8269]

Near to truth...but ..

[@w.z.6062]

China is not a so called “communist”, if you visit there and talk to people and you will find out. There is not well defined social welfare, and Japan has much better healthcare than what China has. 😂

[@jerrellholder8382]

China has a communist party but they are far from communist

[@pardeeptandon]

The fact is today, Communist China does capitalism better than America. That is why America is forced to take protectionist measures like Tariffs, as it can not face free trade.

[@GIZMO3380]

Frankly he should go back to Pakistan to help Pakistan to patch up with India instead of running to US.😂

[@yaoypl]

He grown up in India.

[@pamtam1]

And a moron like you is advising, who is incapable of differentiating which country he belongs to…yeah people should fall for your patch-up, genius sarcasm 😉

[@pardeeptandon]

True

[@actioergosum5193]

The current developments in the US-Canada-India triad relationship regarding the Khalistani issue can potentially blow up and throw a spanner in bringing India into the west plus camp. The Canadians have blamed the Indian home minister as directly involved in the killing/attempted killing. No wonder the Indians and Chinese have recently started a tentative detente on the border fracas since 2020.

[@pardeeptandon]

The Christian government in Canada is using the Khalistan issue to take revenge on our Sangie government for burning Churches and trading Christian women naked on the streets of Manipur last year and not taking any action against the culprits. Other Christian countries are supporting the Canadian stand. After all, religion is important to Christians also. This has forced India to go to China with a tail between its legs.

[@davidw1576]

From an American perspective, Fareed Zakaria idea is intellectually sound idea for US to consider a new "Global Duopoly Cold Peace" forward policy

[@TheVafa95]

For future peace and prosperity, "Enlightened self-interest" has to transform to principle 'advantage of part is best served by the progress of the whole"

[@geoff9858]

BS

[@Laktozint]

Did this guy say china funded and armed india?😂😂😂😂😂

[@TituIshtiaque]

Once upon a time there was a power name USA

[@alma5601]

Interesting so many China advocates commenting here. Fareed actually is a very objective intellectual who sees things through.

[@pardeeptandon]

Does He?

[@aihong2971]

Talking to the choir in your own echo chamber. What happened to your objectivity. Jim Crow hmmmm

[@reneeconlan]

Why is Slum Lord Millionaire giving the U.S. advice?

[@sydneydesouza9719]

Very good for an article by Sydney

[@sydneydesouza9719]

And a book by Fareed - very good for an article by Sydney

[@wyattbai5986]

Hi, people. When China puts its military on Taiwan, which side do you choose?

[@pardeeptandon]

China has not fired a single bullet across its borders in 40 years and will never invade Taiwan. Why would an Indian support Taiwan when it has publically stated Arunachal Pradesh is part of Chinna?

[@BoonChyeLee-hb3bi]

Fareed Zakaria about China not been a responsible international stakeholder? His version about been a responsible international stakeholder is just "obey" US led international order is rubbish. US was the sole super power in the world for the past 35 years and as a matter of fact US followed no rule. What rule did US follow 1)when US unilaterally invaded Iraq, 2)when US supported Eqypt Military coup de tat and jaling of democratically elected President Mohd Morsi. 3) When US CIA and Embassy ochestrated the colour revolution in Ukraine, which eventually triggered the Crimea crisis and subsequent Ukriane war. 4)When US imposed unilitaeral sanctions against countries like Venezuela, Iran and other countries. 5)When US continued to arm Israel genocide in Gaza and West Bank! The world, my self included, used to look upon US as the custodian of international peace. On the contrary, US had failed and failed miserably to date!.

[@pardeeptandon]

Please add to your list that in 2018, America dropped 26,000 bombs on 6 sovereign countries without UN sanctions, killing thousands and making millions of refugees. Was this done following the " Rule of Law", promoting "Human Rights ", or furthering Democracy?

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

This did not age well.

[@qingzhou9983]

他说美国有许多盟友，比中国强大很多。这是对的。但同时你也要看是什么战场。在台湾美国象越南那样一定会输。但在日本或菲律宾本岛那共一定会输。这一点也很重要。

[@waynegore5291]

The only possible outcome is co-existence.

[@Wwmmgg95554]

China traditional confusion contains some social justice elements that resemble Maxi communism theory.

[@Saks6951]

I think China is decling some extent. The way they behaved with India. They attacked india and now they want peace at the end what did they achieve d. You lost the indian market and made them to think about Made in Indai one way they awakened sleeping gaint.

[@GIZMO3380]

😂😂😂 Basically u are saying US n the West are suppressing the rest of the world to get their way. 😂😂😂

[@leonardocolossi2270]

american woorld extraordinary? 80% of the wolrd is poor or miserable

[@sttan2631]

Cant win join in..citizen need to eat...talk talk easy

[@timothymontes2049]

Club of Tyrants: Xi Jinping, Putin, and the clown from North Korea. What to make of this alliance?

[@nanfangwoman]

The speaker does not knowg geopolitics