Ueshiba Morihei 1935 Asahi demonstration at real speed

The famous 1935 Asahi dojo aikido (then aiki budo) demonstration performed by O'sensei Ueshiba Morihei can be seen all throughout youtube. Few people seem to notice however, that all these footages present the demonstration at a wrong speed: the film was recorded at 18 fps (which was standard for silent films at that time), but for some reason it was converted to VHS under the assumption of it being a 24 fps movie, which resulted in a 25% increase in speed. The purpose of this video is to restore the original speed: falling, hakama flowing and movements now seem more natural, and kiai shouts also have a deeper tone.
Credits for this observation goes to Phil Davison, who wrote a very thorough analysis on this early footage:
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[@TaijiquanExplained]

Appreciate the fact that whatever you will do in life is impossible to reach this level of loyalty.

[@Raul28153]

I love the way the guy in dark puts his hands in position for the other guy top use as a target.

[@uberdonkey9721]

Yup, aikido is all related to sword/knife work. Much of it is about grabbing for a drawn weapon or raisting being grabbed when you have a weapon

[@user-bd5ef2xv9l]

It’s because he’s reaching to grab him. It’s not supposed to be a fight. It’s as if you were reaching to grab someone and they countered you before you could react Next time you reach for someone’s hand try randomly twisting it and see what happens. It’s not easy to defend

[@eastafrika728]

It said that before he changed to Aikido, his Aikijujitsu was very brutal, such that his dojo earned the name, "Hell Dojo".

[@PlanetIscandar]

*@eastafrika728* It was his own Master that was very brutal. That's why he became a tough fighter. Old times, old habits. We are "sissies" compared to them...

[@eastafrika728]

@@PlanetIscandar very true, they never had our fears and their threshold for pain was high.

[@finhas8865]

Should look for yoshinkan aikido if you want to see the glimpse of brutality in aikido.

[@kullenberg]

By "brutal", do you mean they were brutalizing their students? Because that is quite common in so called traditional styles. Many practicioners of such schools erroneously think that is somehow a indication of the art being effective, when in reality it is mostly instructors being unecessarily rough with their inexperienced and unathletic students.

[@PlanetIscandar]

@@kullenberg Yes, you are right, but his teacher Takeda Sōkaku was described by Ueshiba himself in his book, as especially brutal in his teaching methods.

[@SoldierAndrew]

Choreography . . . reminds one of how loyal students tank for the no-touch-knock-out masters.

[@VenturaIT]

Somehow, I think that this is choreographed, but not the same way as today's are... you can see how these uke fly and fall differently than any other aikido demonstration we've seen. Then we have the stories about his students actually being thrown, not taking falls, and even getting knocked completely unconscious with a chop stick between the eyes (Roy Suenaka Sensei.) Definitely, something was lost with O-Sensei who was on another level.

[@conorfiggs234]

Say what you want about modern aikido, I do catch wrestling Muay Thai and judo myself, Ueshiba was on another level in terms of martial ability. He fought in wars, taught Aikijujutsu to soldiers in ww2 and I’ve heard accounts of him challenging trained fighters to simply break his pinky finger only to find themselves on the ground after trying to do such a thing. It is because of his belief that competition divides people which is why modern aikidoka don’t spar and therefore can’t fight

[@VenturaIT]

@@conorfiggs234 We can see the video and read the books about the Judo and Sumo and Sword masters who said they feared O-Sensei. Tohei Sensei also fought in wars.

[@kumar7586]

@@VenturaIT Yes. Exactly what fanboys say about Bruce Lee, that he was the best fighter that ever lived though not a competition but a street fighter! When asked for proof like videos or at least a police record, they give vague answers attributing Bruce Lee's legendary street fighting skills to his various students who claim that he could beat them all!

[@VenturaIT]

@@kumar7586 Yes, Aikido is a cult like the Bruce Lee cult, but the difference between O-Sensei and Bruce Lee is that there were hundreds or thousands of witnesses to the MULTIPLE public challenges on O-Sensei and he was challenged by champion professional Sumo wrestlers, the best swordsman in Japan, the top Judo fighters, and more and he beat them all and they became his students. That's different than Bruce Lee... Chuck Norris didn't become Bruce Lee's student and never bowed down to Bruce Lee like Judo and Sumo and sword fighterrs in Japan did to O-Sensei. Aikido today has become a cult because if you watch what O-Sensei is doing and you have enough training you can see the it's almost totally different than what modern Aikikai or even Iwama Aikido does, a lot was lost. But that's just another way you know a true traditional martial arts master. The traditional martial arts master never gives away his secrets, his students must steal them from him and it's up to the student to learn what they can, so every student learns something different and most never learned much from O-Sensei based on what you can see today and how different Aikido is today. So, today Aikido is too much of a cult, but you can actually find some good Aikido teachers, but usually they are not doing KZbin videos.

[@marcd1981]

Sorry, stopped after the first minute. This "Master" was very clearly holding his hands out before the "attacker" even moved his hands. This let the "attacker" place his hands in the perfect spot for the "Master" to grab and perform a move. There is no difference between this film and what you see happening in videos today with students throwing themselves around the dojo while their "Master" barely flinches.

[@NeiJiaQuanBook]

Yes it's s demonstration. Not a UFC championship bout. LOL.

[@bruceholbrook3839]

He believed in bringing people together through Aikido in hopes he could bring more peace and harmony to world , you have one person performing the technique and others lending themselves to help in the practice of aikido .Don't get me wrong there is real application in these techniques and he was a brilliant martial artist but also very spiritual. AIKIDO is a unique and special martial art.

[@Bluejay445]

🐼 1:03

[@coHristom]

Духовного в восточных единобрствах нет!

[@user-vz2iw7nc6r]

Когда мы в эту сказочку верили... хотя многие реальные бойцовские дисциплины подчерпнули не мало интересного и полезного, т.ч. всё равно спасибо 👍

[@vladislavandreev7257]

Обратите внимание: Уесиба поднимает руки для защиты раньше, чем противник его начинает атаковать. То есть он заранее знает, как будет действовать противник и не ждёт от него никаких неожиданностей. Противник даже не пытается хитрить, а просто отдаёт Уесибе свою руку для приёма, чего в реальности не бывает. Так что всё это не более чем показуха.

[@FlyingFF-xz5vh]

Видео по-русски так и называется, показательное выступление. А в отношении сказок и прочих вещей лишь стоит сказать, что гениальность Уэсибы состоит в том, что он смог создать новый вид боевых искусств, в котором Вы можете практиковать боевые техники в полном их исполнении, при этом оставаясь без травм, как для атакующего, так и для нападающего. В полном контакте. Естественно, если у вас нет ограничений в контакте, скорости, силе болевого воздействия, должно быть что-то другое. И это другое, страховка. Опять же, для обеих сторон. И все техники жестко скованы этой страховкой. Их не нужно нигде использовать. Если Вам нужна боевая составляющая этой системы, вы убираете всю технику страховки, и у вас остается визуально совсем другая система, движения другие, воздействия другие. Принципы те же, которые в фундаменте. Тут да, даже многие черные пояса к этому никогда не приходят, это верно. Но если Вам нужно боевое искусство для занятий, с 4 лет до 80, добро пожаловать в айкидо. На всем пути жизни, вы можете заниматься. Если Вам это не подходит, то есть другие боевые искусства и единоборства. При этом, если хоть немного принять такое описание, то можно увидеть в чем гений Уэсибы. Ведь другого такого варианта боевых искусств нет. С уважением ко всем, пусть Ваши навыки, чем бы Вы не занимались, будут применяться только на татами.

[@hmurdock]

You can really see the techniques of Daito-Ryu here slightly changed. If you ever trained it you have to recognize it. (Ueshiba himself trained Daito-Ryu for 20 years)

[@christianboddum8783]

How many commentators here have spent their life training in Budo from their early teens and on, at least 20+ years? Very few, if any, is my guess. FWIW

[@gregoryw.1160]

I agree that the film might be just the tiniest bit too slow, but it is about the closest that I have seen to proper speed. What I love is how much tai sabaki and ashi sabaki The Founder is doing. He's definitely blending and getting that heel-lifting aiki in, but if you watch his feet and hips he's getting those big holes to drop his ukes in with that sabaki movement. O-Sensei chose not to whip his arms too much like his future student Seigo Yamaguchi tended to do, but if he did...YIKES! Especially since he was younger and in his prime!!

[@kyliansunn]

The thing is I used frame interpolation to smoothen out the video, and it might have added some unintended "floaty" feel to it, but the speed should be correct. In fact I added another 5% to the supposed "correct" speed because it did indeed felt too slow and I theorized that the original tape might had been stretched out due to wear causing a slower playback during the digitalization process. You can try playing unaltered instances of this footage at 0.75 playback speed - there is a playback speed option now in video settings which obviously was not available at the time I uploaded the video. As for Osensei's body mechanics: yes there is a lot of tai sabaki, but if you look closely there is also something unusual in the way he moves around in general (a good example at 6:57), somehow between running and walking, his movements are reminiscent of the stylized movement forms today seen mostly in noh/kabuki theaters. In a way I find it to be more similar to the movement style of Shioda's than that of Yamaguchi's. Another thing to note is the way he is using his arms, which seems rather unusual and unintuitive even at times, especially when he does kotegaeshi(kotehineri) seemingly only using one arm - a telling sign that he was in fact using the "cross-pull" connections across his body, but at this point he still had to resort to rather visible external stretching in order for the "slack" to be removed from his body.

[@gregoryw.1160]

@@kyliansunn I have NO DOUBT that you did an excellent job restoring it! The speed, as I mentioned below, is the closest I've seen to reality. Thank you for your effort and diligence! The falls of some of the ukes seem to float just the tiniest bit, but I am sure that couldn't be avoided. And yes, O-Sensei's movement at this time was nothing like Yamaguchi-shihan's. What I was saying is that if The Founder whipped his arms while spiraling his forearms more with his throws in this film (like Yamaguchi tended to do), The Founder would have been even more forceful. Mercifully for his ukes, he did not! No, his movement resembled many of his earlier great students...Shioda, like you point out, Rinjiro Shirata, and especially his relative Noriaki Inoue (with whom he had a falling out). His finishing stances are VERY wide (younger knees and quadriceps, I suppose) and your comparison to kabuki is fascinating! Often artists including martial artists find inspiration in abstractions and other mediums (Roy Jones, Jr. and his "rooster moves" from observing cockfighting, for example). Author John Stevens published a picture in his book of O-Sensei instructing a costumed group of women dancers at around this age! Perhaps that has something to do with his movement.

[@MrVicJass]

Ukes drop with g=9,8 m/sec Our eyes recognize this dynamic. We must look at the droppings of ukes and it must looks natural for us(about speed). Why is it so important talking about speed. People don't know all nuances and think that more faster more effectiveness. I think that rhythm is very important but not so speed. Speed corrects according to ukes reacts, to his amplitude and his hardness of body. I find something how does it works partly and I see prooves in this film but who doesn't know how does it work will be find simple answers for example about speed.

[@duka7436]

I trained aikido for about 10 years, then I went into the cage and was shown where to go. Then aikido was no longer my way.

[@finhas8865]

Funny thing was that most of Morihei Ueshiba lead students was Masters of other martial arts on their own right. Change way after encouter with him. Maybe you should try that way instead of the other way around.

[@StankFernatra]

It's a peace-time art for black belts who know all their strikes to be able to show empathy to goons, not to empower aggressive people to dominate others by injuring their musculature, skeleton, spirit, etc. ... Another way to dominate is to mentor & lead others toward their (and your) betterment, skill, utility, collaboration, etc., but you do you, man.

[@MrVicJass]

He did it but he hadn't known how. 90 % of the techniques have happened before contact. What is he doing during this time? Contact with uke happens for making finally movement for a nage . Legs make a lot.

[@ariturbo4094]

O Sensei always applying Sen sen no sen he never waits

[@Selifmot]

The debate between MMA (more realistic fighting) and traditional martial arts will continue. Both sides will have firmly fixed ideas. Both are valid. What was taught during the samurai era was life and death survival. Morihei was raised in the transitional phase. His hand to hand skills undoubtedly awesome but severe. You can’t very well run a dojo with bodies piling up to be swept away at the end of every practice. From what little I know of Morihei is that he made a change from a ruthless bone breaking killing samurai to a more calm, almost monk, kind of person. How did that happen? Who knows but I do see something that became highly developed. Terminology will change depending on where you’re from. Chi, Ki, Qi, shaking gin ….etc. Some of the demonstrations exhibit those traits. People flying around inexplicably is in part his Chi power. A lot of it is purely organized choreographed demonstration. I’m not trained in Aikido so I can only speculate on what is taught in modern dojos. I have spent a day or two training in modern martial arts and I agree with the MMA people who think little of traditional martial artist being able to fight. Unless there’s actual physical contact training, the average black belt is not going to fare very well against a boxer or skilled street fighter. There was an old saying about the difference between hard and soft styles of Kung Fu. The soft styles train for years developing internal power that ultimately became a viscous combat effective style. It takes years of hard work and dedication to rise to that level. A more immediate system was needed to raise people to a combat ready fighter, hard style. So, hard vs soft? After a relative short time of training, hard style kicks butt. Maybe in 10-15 years training the soft style is dominant. After 25-30 years of training, hard and soft become much more close to being equal. The hard style develops the internal energy inadvertently while the soft style concentrated on developing that aspect from day one. If I was training as a civilian attempting to gain health and develop an ever increasing degree of combat skills, hands down it would be a soft style or at least one that didn’t break my bones Abe destroy my body. If I needed immediate realistic combat skills then I’d probably start with boxing coupled with ju jujitsu and krav magra. I’m sure the biggest factor is training the body. Most low level sports don’t emphasize that. Commercial gyms, studios, dojo’s would loose 90% of their students if you required hard physical training as a prerequisite. I’m sure we can say we get a good sweat breaking workout in our respective schools but it isn’t like working out in the back yard of a master in Naha, Okinawa or Fujian, China, or Sparta long ago.

[@rudrannock]

Yes. My dad was a judo teacher in the 50's and 60's when I was growing up. I later trained in TKD in the air force and later still sticks and Aikido which I eventually taught. I agree about the relationships about the hard/soft styles. My interest for the last 40 years has been Ki and I train mostly yoga now. I would recommend that serious trainers go soft for childhood, hard for adolescence then balance those two according to life needs as one ages...finishing back in soft with old age. The debate over styles is what works in the street. The point is to redesign the street altogether.

[@steveshea7725]

Speaking from my limited experience in sikido some 20 years ago, the flying around is not inexplicable, it is a result of the technique and momentum.

[@littlecannon]

Wow an intelligent comment on martial arts at last! Haha…. Pretty spot on, internal styles take a long time to understand, taken me near 30 years to internalise taijiquan.

[@yuriychekryzhov1673]

Good comment! Although neijia , as it is traditionally taught in China is Very rare and requires really many years of practice with good teacher and without guarantees for success . Mostly is taught in family and passes to very few… the rest is commercial product …

[@Selifmot]

Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments, not a stinker amongst the comments. That should make the 6 o’clock news. 😇 The internal energy is there no matter what you call it. From what little I know about the subject, the energy flow is certainly not limited to martial arts. As I understand from the Chinese point of view, the use of chi is split into 3 areas; martial purposes, medical/health, and spiritual. As our world opens up and information flows a little better now, it’s interesting to see how many areas of use stems from this base subject Chi. Buddhism, yoga and god knows how many other religions and uses come from the same origins. As one of the commenters said, the methods were secret and kept to a small select group or even down to individuals. Usually handed down within a family. It was known to happen that the “master” would teach outside his group/family but it was usually to a wealthy individual for a great sum of money. Hey, poor boy got to make a living even back then. The reason it wasn’t widely practiced by the masses was two fold. It was a family secret and the other was it just takes too long to learn and it’s dog gone tough. Warlords too out the internal development to hasten the time it too to train peasants to become somewhat combat competent. For that reason, modern military units are not taught martial arts beyond very fundamental skills. I have no idea what is taught these days but in 1970, Army boot camp was 8 weeks. Hand to hand skills were presented between 1pm and 3pm one afternoon. To increase the likelihood of surviving one year in country, they taught you how to spray lots of round somewhere towards the enemy. Sorry….I got a little off track. Martial Arts schools of today are a great place to train your body to increase strength and basic health. It’s a good place to have kids spend a couple of hours after school to be safe, get stronger, develop self control and confidence. These are important skills and I in no way want to make it seem like I’m knocking modern schools. If you’re an adult, anyone over the age of 14, don’t think taking martial art at the local strip mall is going make you the next Bruce Lee. My advice for any and every one it to get strong to best way you can. I see awesome people with mad skills who are training in yoga, tai chi, cross fit, and tennis to name just a few. In my personal opinion, all those activities have developed chi skills although they may have never heard of the term. …..yes….in case you’re wonder I am an old bored guy with nothing better to do than surf You Tube. 😇

[@memeinvestidor3737]

This just proves that aikido students are professionals at getting beaten...

[@redbunnytail9528]

Not too long ago, O sensei was this undisputed legend of martial arts AND real combat, even when he was alive. Now you have people, who love saying they studied aikido and switched to MMA/BBJ and never looked back. Or. They parrot what they read and hear and say Aikido is non functional. Aikido does look weak. You know? It does look choreographed. But how else is a spiritual person to evolve this reality of 'fighting?' MMA does not have one person, who can claim to be even remotely high level, in terms of higher reality. You get worse. Not better, after a certain age. AND. You look it. There was a time, when aikido students, shihan, were actual brawler types. Or that's what people like to say, who are really into Aikido. People want skill. They have to remember. The biggest con is an art, where everyone who can do yoga postures can learn it. You know? And look good doing it. There might be a few studios, in the world that know how to tell the garden variety from the skilled practitioner. I don't think any of these people fight, competitively, though or need to. If you are a warrior, life is this death trap, and all you have to do is 'show up.'

[@SBCBears]

What you are seeing here is a demonstration of techniques, not their application in self-defense. So, yes, there is an understanding between teacher and student. It must also be said that whenever challenged, Ueshiba defeated all comers from a variety of martial arts. Some reported beginning an attack and finding themselves flying through the air without any feeling of being touched. I have a dan grade and willingly admit that I could never make Aikido work in a real fight unless I got extremely lucky. I just don't know how he was able to defeat trained fighters and street fighters. At this point, we can only go on what has been written about him while remembering what we see here is merely a demonstration of techniques, not an actual encounter. One exception to defeating challengers when occurred between Ueshiba and a hunter. Ueshiba agreed to allow the hunter to try to shoot him with a rifle. Before the hunter could fire, Ueshiba stopped the event. He said he could not grasp the hunter's mind because the hunter came from a family with a long heritage of hunting. However, in at least one other demonstration, he did avoid gunfire aimed at him. Soooo... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@haitaelpastor976]

" Some reported" A report is not actual proof. I've heard the "hunter" tale too, but a bit different, involving japanese army officers who were scouting for a proper trainer in HtH. There is too much legend and bullshido magic stories surrounding this and other "spiritual ki mastering arts". Look at China.

[@SBCBears]

@@haitaelpastor976 Maybe you heard someone's conflation of separate stories. I used the hunter story as a clear example of his purported mental abilities and limits. I felt the military story was less useful for that. Also omitted the Tokyo police stories. True or not? Who knows?

[@gnaflethegarthok3074]

The bullshido is strong with this one

[@Durante_di_Alighiero]

Oh get the hell out of here with the bullshido crap. This guy would probably brake your neck in his prime. Basically everyone of his freaking students said he was both strong as hell and techicaly precise and most of those people had already training in other grappling or armed style or even combat experience.

[@gnaflethegarthok3074]

@@Durante_di_Alighiero yes Sensei

[@Durante_di_Alighiero]

@@gnaflethegarthok3074 Excellent, you have learned a lesson little one. Now go slap yourself with a dildo over your left chick ten times.

[@andreynapalkow5520]

without understanding the essence of what is happening - you won’t “see” anything

[@Jaimito1981]

What's the essence of what's happening?

[@haitaelpastor976]

@@Jaimito1981 Bullshido at its finest.

[@Regrinn1]

Já era essa marmelada desde aquela época..

[@JustMe-vz3wd]

Historical footage of one of the greatest martial artist of Japan. The founder of Judo did sent students to train in his dojo. Pro sumo wrestlers (tenryu saburo) who tested him and were defeated, became his student. The man is a legend. His techniques and style are so sophisticated that some people just cant grasp it and in utter despait call it fake. A living legend at his time, honored with 4 medals and decorations by the governement of Japan for his achievement and cotribution. He is the Albert Einstein of the martial art, something the muscle punch and kick crowd just cant grasp.

[@VenturaIT]

Yes, this is not the same Aikido we learned, something was lost that only he understood.

[@JustMe-vz3wd]

@@VenturaIT it is not lost but hidden away, Most of these great aikido masters don't share the true teachings but carefully keep it to themselves, so they can do seminairs over and over and over again, teaching this techniques, that technique, but not the essence. In the old days Morihei would take aikido seminairs from sokaku for just a month, and become proficient. Thats bc these seminairs were real teachings. Nowadays you go to a seminair, and all they do is stuff that you already learned as an absolute beginner ;ikyo, irimi, stuff like that. They give you a cheap bottle of wine from the supermarket bc the master doesnt share his quality french wine, if you know what i mean. ppl drinking 3.99 dollar a bottle wine and thinking its the real stuff!

[@BatTuThanQuyen]

@@JustMe-vz3wd Ueshiba Morihei's son isn't as good at aikido as he is, proving that it's hard to learn, not as indoctrinated as you might think!

[@m3rcyk1ller]

Guys, chill. It took time to realise for me that this is a way of practicing deadly conflicts with friends you love. Aikido teaches you how to be deadly don't worry, but above all it teaches to do it extremly safe, so you do not harm others and put yourself in a bad spot. People say "this is fake" %100 correct, while they %100 wrong on identification on what they see, bec. it's a heritage of practicing deadly matters safely (and no combat sportive/cage style limitations what so ever).

[@uberdonkey9721]

People watching aikido don't understand it. I took it up when I was 16 and muscley because a tiny 40 year old woman could throw me around like a rag doll. Could I have taken in her in a real fight? Probably, but she had amazing ability to find my balance and take it, and move me around using good leverage,.timing and minimum effort. What's being developed in aikido is this, it isn't about specific grabs/twists etc. The movements are a method of training the fundamentals beneath it, as in most martial arts.

[@simonedwards7543]

This is basically the aikido shioda gozo learned. I can see why yoshinkan is "Hard" Aikido

[@VenturaIT]

It's call Daito-Ryu... but there was something lost from then until now. This is not the Aikido that we learned.

[@khamariblair4898]

Great video🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@Feisty6969]

I hope my opponents let me grab them like this

[@Ketrin8341]

В свое время Морихэй Уэсиба произвёл на меня большое впечатление 👍

[@user-wj5gf6bc5f]

ДА ШАРЛАТАН ПРОБЫ НЕГДЕ СТАВИТЬ

[@thomasfaben3001]

Stop sticking out your hand for him to grab!!

[@kid3764]

Everyone here gets an Academy award for their acting skills

[@sylvainrioux7700]

Sagawa Sensei studied with Takeda Sensei, O'Sensei invited him to teach in his dojo.

[@gregoryw.1160]

I'm sure that most of us can agree--albeit tongue-in-cheek--that his suwari waza kokyunage at timemark 3:08 contains the secrets of the universe! :)

[@hereps]

Let me explain. The shockwave induced by the hit at the bottom of the belly goes right up the head, shaking the brain. Then the hit person feels an increased gravity which makes the head go back and the whole body go down.

[@LucMoustache1]

Domo Arigato

[@ralfstofer8609]

The master brings his hands and arms in the defence position. Afterwards the "opnend" lays his arm in it and then the master is pervorming his "impressiv" move. How rediculus ist that??? And furthermore the dummy oponed is aiming 15cm above the head of the person he is intended to hurt in slow motion. So if on the street somebody attacks you and try to punch 15 cm above your head in slow motion - kaaabooom you defeated him.

[@regulartower588]

My dad used to do these moves on me when I was a little kid.

[@reytoba]

I don't agree, I usually change the speed of some mobile videos and the movements in this footage look like slow motion, at 125% they are more normal.

[@mrr0cksor669]

Only 4 traditional martial arts proven themselfs applicable in real combat: Wrestling, Boxing, Muay Thai and Karate. The rest is fancy and nice but it should not be in the same category as those 4. Don't get me wrong, you can do Aikido, Tai Chi, etc. and become a better person and do good for your health but you will get your ass kicked in a fight from a practitioner off the other 4. (Been there and done that, many years of tai chi and I got my ass handed to me when I startet kick boxing)

[@sqwert654]

no fake dives than a soccer match

[@Oleg.G.]

I appreciate the intention of publishing this, but when I look at the "real speed" footage, it clearly seems too slow, and the movements are anything but natural. This is especially noticeable in the breakfalls. On the other hand, I agree that the speed on the other versions of this video seems just a tad too high. Perhaps a 1.2 speed ratio (with respect to this version) would be just about right.

[@SerPitr]

Now that youtube has the playback speed option I tried it at 1.25 speed and it feels like faster than the original... I dont know, the speed feels somehow wrong for me as well, but I feel it to be faster than natural at some points... :/

[@z8ph0d]

The problem is that everyone who studies Aikido nowadays has a misinformed view of what Aikido "techniques" are. They aren't meant for practical usage, they are meant to teach concepts of Aiki and how to develop the Aiki body, the Heaven-Earth-Man. If you understand that, you can start to look at these videos with a much greater appreciation for what O'Sensei was doing.

[@DungVu-rl1rq]

saitar1337 You know, If you face a kobudoka like Morihei Ueshiba, you haven't a chance to punch, he will slash you to pieces with his katana. Best you can do to survive is running away or quickly grap his arm before he draw the sword. It is budo - the matter of live or death, not common street fight noaday.

[@danieldefeudis8209]

@@DungVu-rl1rq Ueshiba was not allowed to use katana.

[@andreinartea5823]

@saitar1337 The chances of being attacked by a pro fighter in the streets are less than 0. A pro fighter will not want to beat me up just because. The sense of this type of technique is control of the distance and self reaction. If someone comes to you with beligerant intentions and you spread your arm towards him, the most probable reaction of a normal person that thinks he should hit you is the one in the footage, and the reaction of the nage is correct (do the technique and get out of there). I'm getting tired of this "a professional fighter wouldn't react like that" thing. Control of the distance and good life saving reaction. That is the minimal purpose of Aikido. Not beating people. I'm very confident that Rickson Gracie and his kin don't walk the streets trying to beat people up.

[@georg2039]

I know this! This is "Release" Contemporary Dance.

[@user-pb5bu1gq7o]

Айкидо - это не стиль, а манера ведения боя, щадящая противника. Уэсиба сделал ее на основе джиу джитсу. Но может быть айкидо на основе карате, кунфу, бокса и т. д. Эффективны ли данные приемы в реальном бою? Да, если вы намного скиловее своего противника. Нет, если вы ему уступаете. Если противник сильный и опытный, его нельзя щадить, потому что вы проиграете. Но во многих жизненных ситуациях мастеру не требуется уничтожать неопытных противников, и тогда такие приемы очень кстати. Они останавливают агрессора, но не калечат и не убивают его.

[@modulregima1359]

а как Вам фильмы Стивена Сигала?

[@user-pb5bu1gq7o]

@@modulregima1359 вспомнил фильм ,,Сквозные ранения,, , когда он опробовал айкидо на накачаных охранниках. По итогу пришлось намотать цепь на кисть и гасить их по старинке.

[@richardlaroche9167]

Every single time such a aikido "master" goes into a real fight, they get TOTALLY DESTROYED. The student obviously faking at 3:08 is telling a lot.

[@zali13]

"Real aikido results in death". Apparently these techniques were tried out for real in the mean streets of pre-war Shanghai.

[@lowkicker1971]

different culture with techniques based on sword attacks. Aikido in this form is no real self defense anymore. zen plus beautiful movements.

[@schoney1]

it's Magic !!

[@schoney1]

those students would have never been tossed if they had the tongue in the correct position or raised one toe.

[@haitaelpastor976]

@@schoney1 Dillman-jutsu, the definitive one.

[@schoney1]

@@haitaelpastor976 that's voodoo-ryu

[@animal9432]

This is a prime example of why Aikido is nothing more than choreographed dancing; it is certainly a discipline and elements can be integrated into an actual martial art, but it has no actual defensive use by itself.

[@michallipiecki9858]

you never felt the pain of these techniques. I should try before you comment

[@wadsworth2351]

@@michallipiecki9858 I practiced this for over 3 years and the only real pain was that which came from the falls that were choreographed. Full stop.

[@zamolxezamolxe8131]

@@michallipiecki9858 😂🤣😂

[@williamhenry8259]

I fully agree. I associate Aikido with choreography. It looks great in movies, but unless your opponent offers their hand for you to easily grab, you are in trouble. Every demonstration is the same. Student offers hand, Masters grabs it with ease, nobody ever resists.

[@philippebartoli422]

@Wadsworth Only one little piece of advice. Come in France. Attend to a course of Bruno Gonzales at Christian Tissier dojo. Tell to Bruno Gonzales that he teachs dance and come back to let us know what has happened.

[@albertrozenfild2963]

забавно, как отчетливо видно, что он даже атаку начинает первым, вообще не напрягаясь по этому поводу...

[@whiskeyhangover1438]

The amount of reverence his students had for him probably was the biggest cause of the ineffectiveness oh his art. If just one of his mind slaves resisted we would see a whole different syllabus.

[@xedoccodex]

its a Demonstration buddy not a fight.

[@steveshea7725]

No dude, resisting the technique fro. Someone of this generation. they would have a broken shoulder/arm, concussion, hematoma on the neck.

[@haitaelpastor976]

By all means. Worked like a sect.

[@marcosantoniorochamarukai8329]

Após assistir esse vídeo , fica claro a habilidade e domínio do Aiki do O’Sensei e confirma a grandeza do Mestre Takeda . É uma pena não termos um vídeo do Mestre Takeda em ação . Um abraço à todos .

[@mushotoku_ro]

O sensei techings was deep nonviolence spirit, respect for human life ...with buddhist influence ; Al the tehniques reflect that spiritual asspect, BU - DO

[@mrtrik71]

Self defense from one’s self

[@sidneyrobinson5344]

I hope all of you who watch this learn and understand the real secret to Aikido. MOVEMENT. The Circle, The Triangle, The Square and the Diagonal Line. The real truth to Aikido. Which is so hard for people to see is. That I move in such a way, that I can defend myself without me touching you or you touching me. I’m just not going to be there when the attack comes. And you fall into the void I left. And you hurt yourself. That is the true essence of Aikido.

[@alexscott730]

Yea...if your opponent's a dumbass.

[@FGzone]

There is much much more to it

[@vijayvijay4123]

I interpret it's secret differently because I have my native martial arts which is smilar to Aikido. I believe it can be used in practical applications . It's a deadly martial arts originally intended to be used against a armed assailant . You can't just keep on evading an armed man

[@vijayvijay4123]

I'll let you in a secret. Karate Aikido Judo atemi are all collectively single package. Only if you all these it becomes a practical real Martial art.

[@FGzone]

@@vijayvijay4123 if you do the weapon practice as Saiti tought you harden the hands. The exercises are exercises all for physical conditioning. Balance, stamina, training angles, entering. It is training for people who know what they are doing. It is also an internal art. It when you are initiated into a linage of a teacher opens the energy systems of the body. From then on it becomes a mystical art based on being the universe so that you know you have always won if attacked. You protect the attacker from you. Systema, Filipino arts, some chinese and aikido are based on a transformation of body so that it relates differently to all. They do not do this in the same way. Ueshiba said aikido is not fast or slow it exist just before time and space.

[@user-yr6il4zn5u]

まだ黒髪の頃の植芝盛平翁。 元気いっぱいですな!

[@mrtrik71]

Let’s wrestle let’s wrestle .

[@narrcccci]

You couldn't not dream of even making an inconvenience to him.

[@philippecave7055]

??

[@Dan.50]

If you believe this then I have a bridge to sell you.

[@haitaelpastor976]

Yep, Brooklyn area, just for 1M, includes toll rights!

[@schell0118]

That old guy's just a bully.

[@fredricclack7137]

Spiral 🐚

[@maxshumake3027]

Did he have dillberries for breakfast?

[@fabioaugustopereiramaia1195]

Quem olha acha que é fake! Mais só quem teve o privilégio de estar ali e pode sentir o domínio da energia Ki que morihei ueshiba dominava

[@ninjamaster7724]

So Aikido has always been a demonstration art,even from it's earliest days. The ukemi are throwing themselves. AIKIDO DOES NOT WORK.

[@firstpositronlab6819]

Ну точно система Рябко))

[@furrkhaslam9685]

He needs some proper thugs to make it work

[@faizymirza9514]

Dance...

[@fernandomsoares1]

Vídeo raro. Nunca vi sensei Mushiba assim

[@saulayala4970]

I think it is hilarious Most of the time the master’s guard is up before the aggressor makes a move. Then the aggressor reaches out and makes contact with the master’s hand. Not his Face!! So choreographed it is comical. This stuff was useless way back then and apparently has never evolved into a truly martial system or even a functional self defense method. Wow!!!

[@kid3764]

These preformers are more talented than the artist in Cirque de Soleil....

[@predatorbozy7688]

Spotkałem kiedyś mistrza ueshibę na konwencie anime.Podchodzę do niego i mówię: słuchaj dziadu,dlaczego trenujesz Łukaszenkę do wojny z NATO?On spojrzał na mnie jak na insekta,i już miał zadać śmiertelny cios,aż tu nagle z krzaków wyskoczył Steven Seagal i possał mistrzowi ueshiba na zgodę.Tak było.

[@VoldemarPetroff]

а чего же они сами подпрыгивают и делают кувырки?

[@86joncooper]

it looks nice but in a real fight you need MMA, judo, jujitsu. this is more of a dance with students playing, not actually being forced into throws or submissions by the instructor

[@furrkhaslam9685]

Pretty moves but effectiveness against someone with malevolent intent?

[@haitaelpastor976]

Not in the slightest.

[@user-pq4jh7ux9r]

Што амерыканскі рестлінг, што гэтае японскае рукамаханне - гэта цырк. "Майстар" ставіць блок і чакае, калі ж вучань туды рукі суне))). Клоўны.

[@dikiykipovec4918]

В мма таких мастеров выносят в 10 секунд

[@akumass1]

How awful it is for people to be so mislead in sharing a group delusion wrought by equally delusional and charismatic leaders.

[@yolsub31]

🤣🤣

[@Stalker_from_Magdeburg]

Circus, having no relation to real fight...

[@DefeatingEvil]

🤭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🙈

[@davidchofflet4014]

en 2023, personne ne se bat à genoux 🤔🤔🤔

[@yi5826]

I think because in that age (1935) the size of Japanese people are smaller (around 160cm) , the original movie looks faster than today's Aikido movement.

[@markharrell3602]

Too much cooperation and dance like. It looks like a choreographed stage performance.

[@pavelvedernikov8502]

Okay but this is bulshitdo. The guys are literally jumping where they have to. Its a staged show.

[@davidadmingerardo9423]

No control

[@joeallen2354]

This has to be a joke.

[@hetrodoxly1203]

This is just silly.

[@coHristom]

А че ему с ноги по почкам не зарядят?.....сразу в реанимацию и все.....шандец мастеру, до конца дней будет на койке руками водить в верх/вниз!

[@1234z7]

🪟 View 58,325 Possibly Ran across something today. What color does a cat eyes reflect back to someones might differ from person to person.. completely different colors from others???......need more discussion before final decision.

[@albertgatyas6784]

Far worse Thám my grandpa. Dobrý ever také hit. Know Guy who Trainers it 20 years And get beat by streetfighter.

[@davidadmingerardo9423]

THIS IS FAKE

[@PlanetIscandar]

@davidadmingerardo9423 I ensure you, it's not fake, it's "cooperative training" and 100% real.

[@user-wj5gf6bc5f]

@@PlanetIscandar 😂😂😂

[@donoberloh]

Sad

[@rowanatkinson4738]

fake master

[@johnowen9564]

not something i would use never had opponents so obliging

[@Alex_Che_1]

Постановка, на камеру.

[@indienriver1]

Lachhaft

[@furrkhaslam9685]

Also how many people walk about on their knees in 21st Century western Europe? As a cultural artefact of medieval Japan it is nice but as a functional self defense in 21st century it needs thorough overhaul.

[@perrypelican9476]

Even back then it looked like an acrobatic display. Do you see a display of the effectiveness of a martial art? Look how the master holds out his hand to show the other guy where to put his arm so he can grab it most effectively. It's silly. Or am i missing something? And what's with the uniform? You do all your training wearing a ling skirt with cooperative opponents. I can actually imagine that after training for a few decades you might be able to fight against untrained bad guys because you have practiced every possible movement, but you would still be useless against a real combat fighter.

[@perrypelican9476]

@JJ KK i agrée that you can learn from every art. That why I say mma is the only way to go if you really want to learn to fight. Of course wrist locks can be effective but not enough. I watch demonstrations closely and don't get it. Why don't they spar to battle test real scenarios?

[@xxxxxPr0xxxxx]

@@perrypelican9476 inform yourself before talking about things. there are randori in aikido where you don't know the attackers moves. and what do you even mean with "real scenarios"? if you're looking to defend yourself on the street i recommend a knife, not fistfights.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

the essence of this system is life or death ..its astate of mind ..you can not learn that in gym ..the founder Ueshiba had a sengoku mentality ..it is not a sports contest...if you were to engage seriously with a well versed practitioner you could end up deceased.

[@perrypelican9476]

@@xxxxxPr0xxxxx so what is aikido for? You say it's not for defending yourself because you think it's better to keep a knife in your pocket and use that. I guess I am missing something. Why would someone learn aikido? Is it to be able to demonstrate it to other people who want to learn a martial art that is not for defending yourself? Please explain.

[@xxxxxPr0xxxxx]

@@perrypelican9476 aikido is Budo and while it does work when defending against a regular opponent it is not meant to be practiced as a means to fight. That's because aikido is heavily steeped in pacifism. The philosophy makes up a large part of achieving higher Dan so people with Black belts usually adhere to these principles. Now i personally don't think you'll be able to defend against a regular opponent before having at least the brown belt. The ones above that are certain to avoid confrontation if at all possible. Just to summarize: when looking at aikido you're not only looking at a self defense method but at a philosophy which has to be accounted for when trying to judge It's effectiveness.

[@jonknee5095]

I'm not going to say he doesn't know martial art. At that age he's probably done more martial art than I'm been alive BUT anyone whose done a little horse play as a kid would know that there is no way you can throw a person around like that without the person simply playing along. The real story is that he got old, disillusion, lost his fighting spirit and decided to turn what he know into a dance. So as long as you know that you are learning a dance not a martial art then it's fine.

[@manuelgonzalezmarti9582]

I have to agree to some of the things you say ,but not to most of it, of course these are trainings or demos and he made a bit of a choreography, but we do the same to learn and practice everything,even for loading a machine gun,the uke are desiring to be thrown and do help a lot, because they know they are in danger if they relax a bit too much or try to resist they could end up in the hospital.I remember Kimeda Sensei telling me how Shioda sensei broke both of his wrist at once in a demo.

[@artiefischel2579]

You can believe that if it makes you feel better, if it keeps you from the discomfort of suspecting there are things you don't understand. In this film he's in his early 50's. Also, he spoke in magical terms, but it's not magic. It's physics and psychology. Watch again.

[@perrypelican9476]

@@manuelgonzalezmarti9582 not true all. Every martial art has sparring where both practitioners actually try to beat up the other. I don't know any martial art where one guy is the one who does the throws and wrist locks and the other cooperates 100%. How can you learn to deal with an attacker if you never learn to deal with an attacker. You learn to deal with someone cooperating with you to allow you to do whatever you want.

[@brunocontiero5310]

@@manuelgonzalezmarti9582 During an important demonstration Ueshiba was sick ,,Shioda sensei and Yukawa must take ukemi and so the first to make uke was Yukawa that because of the weakness of the master made a soft blow to O Sensei that immediately broke his arm...after that Shioda took ukemi straight an hour long and very hard....the day after ,having sore all over the body and fever he slept hours to recover the beat...that was O Sensei in old times...

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

i am sick of reading comments by people attempting to denigrate the 'Traditional' martial arts systems in order to promote this new fad of .mma. ..the comparison is constantly being made by witless morons that an Aikidoka would be destroyed in an mma fight ..This is a disrespect to the entire philosophy behind the art and in fact is a direct slander against the human spirit of achievement ....in my day you respected elders and especially sensei and teachers ...

[@user-yc6in8zf4l]

клоунада практиковалась уже тогда супермастерами

[@greenwave2450]

Geriatric judo 😂😂

[@sidheshpatil7120]

How many Japanese martial artists, law enforcement officers, members of its defence forces and judicature "drove" their cars to the dealerships to get the airbags fixed, and in doing so voluntarily assumed the risk of falling prey to killer airbags?

[@Ido971]

Morihei Ueshiba was such a Martial arts fraud . At least he didn't keep the name of Dayton Ryu aikijiujitsu

[@pomod]

Why a fraud? There are lots of anecdotes of people who who knew him attesting to his formidable ability. Also its Daito Ryu - (Dayton is a town in ohio)

[@littlematt7501]

If you say so. At least he knew how to spell check his own f'ing youtube posts. :p F'off.

[@longhorndb]

@@pomod He brainwashed all his students into compliance with either pain or ostracization or both. Could he do real stuff? yes he could. A famous jiu jutzu sensei and Cpt in the Marine Corps, judo coach for my sensei, knew this first hand. But, O'Sensei couldn't teach his principals with a modern curriculum so much of the aura and learnings went spiritual with bullshido as the guiding principal. @ido971 You're a heretic I see.

[@pomod]

​@@longhorndb I don't think aikido is any more or less spiritual than basic Japanese metaphysics. If people in the west don't get that they should spend some time learning the cultural aspects of the context in which it evolved. But you'll never get it if your brain is closed and you think it's all about defeating an opponent - It's about transcending the need for a fight to begin with. And that was his genius. He's very explicit in interviews from the time - Aikido is about harmonizing, *not* fighting or competition. Could he walk the walk, I think the consensus from those who were thrown by him is he could. Can a modern Aikidoka "beat" an opponent in a ring using strictly aikido. I doubt many could - but here's the thing. It's. Not. The. Point. Of. Aikido. Aikido works extremely well for what it's supposed to do. Basic self defence, health, a meditative practice, learning the limits of one's body etc. It's about personal growth. Not winning or losing or fighting. Get it.

[@mohammadpoltaksimbolon8019]

Don't you know the story about him and Jigoro Kano n also Sokaku Takeda?

[@conorfiggs234]

“This is ideal budo, this is the essence of judo”

[@dusanmandrapa6060]

A hahahahahaha