UFA 2019 SSBU - FOX | MkLeo (Marth) Vs. Link91 (Link) Smash Ultimate Tournament Winners Qualifier

[@VantaVoid7]

MKLeo’s Joker is him playing with his mind MKLeo’s Marth is him playing with his heart

[@Cinnamstt]

No he is playing then with his hands and first of all he can't play a character with his heart cause the heart is just a organ that pumps blood

[@csw-t5i]

@@Cinnamstt you must be fun at parties :/

[@Cinnamstt]

@@csw-t5i 😂😂

[@Cinnamstt]

@@gus-da-bus6539 Lmao it's true tho

[@Duck-de9dw]

IIIXxShadowXx 25 but he can’t play without his heart or his mind

[@iamram5446]

For those wondering on stream Leo said he is going to be playing a lot more Marth because his set against void inspired him since as we all know sheik isn’t exactly the best but seeing how void was still playing her just cause that’s his character Leo felt inspired to play Marth again

[@vertsang5424]

that's pretty cool:)

[@winschlati8033]

That's exactly what I thought. Void's an amazing player who doesn't care much about the tier lists but rather the match ups to his character. I'm glad Sheik and Marth are getting recognition from amazing players.

[@farouklopez7242]

Is there a clip of that ?

[@stilactic4667]

Sammy LA this has actually inspired me to start playing Corrin again

[@StealthFoxx_]

I know Lucina is better overall, but I feel like Marth has much more potential than people give him credit for. He can definitely be stressful to play when you aren't landing at least 50% of your tippers or slightly mess up your spacing, but he's not bad by any means. While Lucina has more consistent results and doesn't have to worry about the same things you do when playing Marth, he's definitely hype to watch when he's played effectively

[@CastafioreOnYoutube]

MKLeo Joker is cool but MKLeo Marth is a thing of beauty.

[@Exorcist_ali248]

Leo Joker was beautiful when it was new

[@Shadowhaze08]

Can't forget his Ike too

[@ぬるぬる-f4l]

Castafiore It was a sentence that even Japanese Japanese can understand.

[@maripo3985]

全く同じ事を思ってたわ

[@nottifa778]

I agree :)

[@yukkuribeni]

Seeing MkLeo playing Marth again puts a tear in my eye.

[@odindarkll3706]

It's like sm4sh marth all over again.

[@enochfeng3233]

But why tho

[@Tom-vx7qh]

"So you think I'm carried by Joker, huh?"

[@VOKZEL]

I wouldn't say he's getting carried by Marth, as he's the hardest out of the 4 echo swordies, but he's definitely still playing an easy character.

[@12Sangjin]

VOKZEL ...

[@oddityxd2683]

Yeah because spacing tippers is easy....

[@rollingapples6579]

OddityXD ......

[@Luerye]

@@VOKZEL spacing tippers is ez xddddd nice

[@Keshav-il2hp]

The real challenge for them was trying to find each other after a match.

[@ultimateabsol1268]

Big brain time

[@im_Spade_]

Looool I love this comment

[@Clicky_live]

Last kill wasnt dash attack but pivot cancel f-tilt

[@julani00]

Lol when I heard dash attack, I'm like these guys clearly dont see Marth alot lmfaooo.

[@laserquacker7027]

Can someone kindly explains to me what "pivot cancel f-tilt" is? Thank you! :D

[@Luffy-yz9gj]

Laser Quacker example: you run left, turn right and then f tilt left

[@marcogonzalez9296]

Laser Quacker if you slow it down you could see his quick turn around

[@Luffy-yz9gj]

@スパークル I think it has more range

[@laundry1799]

Just wait for everyone start to claim Marth is top 10 all of a sudden.

[@dende_ult714]

Stop this, people just don't want to believe in Marth but we all know he has potential

[@cooldes4593]

Mk leo and MewTwoKing already have a video together where they explain why marth is better than lucina. They explained that he has better damage output and combo potential as long as you can space using tippers to finish and sour spots to start combos.

[@cooldes4593]

Lucina is just the safer pick because you dont have to be as good at spacing

[@Thebrokenrobot273]

Jake I agree, I’ve been using Marth since Ultimate was available. I feel you have to be good at spacing, reading, and spacing to really bring that potential. It’s going to be funny seeing more Marth from people soon

[@stevenzhao3414]

@@cooldes4593 See that's the issue though. Who on Earth aside from Leo could say I am so good at spacing I can get consistant tipper on stage AND while edge guarding?

[@dVector13]

"dont call it return of the king, call it the return of the hero-king" damm that was fire

[@caliotamegane6392]

That was heat

[@mobilefeen5641]

That was FIRE emblem😳🔥

[@atha5469]

2:33 Are you kidding me

[@thegrunch6448]

Lol

[@jumble6820]

I dont get it?

[@jumble6820]

OH NVM HAHA

[@Luffy-yz9gj]

YeahOk dsa What was the crowd saying? Or does Leo's gesture say 'Are you kidding me'?

[@sebserrano8717]

HAHAHA for people who don't understand, Link91 and Leo were trying to face eachother but kept on looking the opposite way

[@Mr.Foxhat]

As a Marth main, it's beautiful seeing MKLeo using the character again.

[@killerxking9183]

robot6644 it just makes me happy even seeing people play Marth.

[@gunkman_man]

7:32 turn around cancel f-tlit* Leo uses that so much, seems like a really good option the way he's weaving them in

[@emanonomoi]

Mark Chee It's a very good option,as it's essentially a better dash attack,and ftilt kills well when it tippers. The extra distance the slide gives from cancelling the pivot in addition to Marths already long range is a great combo.

[@nani_tf]

Mark Chee what’s the input to do this cancel?

[@DeadJuicebox]

@@nani_tf Dash, Backward + C-stick forward (with tilt stick)

[@ZWarrior89]

I personally don't think Marth should use a dash attack ever. Especially if you can cancel the dash into a tilt.

[@CameramanI88]

This also applies to Lucina. Dash attack is too laggy while f-tilt does the same damage. Dash attack does do ,ore knock back though, so in some situations where you can get a guaranteed hit in, dash attack is better

[@odindarkll3706]

*Lucina* *mains* *switching* *back* *to* *Marth* *noises*

[@dal4268]

Fuckin sheeps

[@fabianrangel0422]

DisabledAsianLord literally 😂

[@flappylappy5712]

I would never drop lucina for marth I'm loyal to my waifu😤

[@datboychimichangas4983]

@@flappylappy5712 shut up weeb marth has bigger boobs

[@claire6452]

I never dropped Marth for Lucina, I'm loyal to my Waifu too.

[@pumpkinpiemassacre6799]

I've always liked Marth. And I've always admired MKLeo. Perfect combo.

[@pumpkinpiemassacre6799]

@@tom4y5s72 Cool.

[@eziashit1501]

2:46 they were playing hide and seek

[@rollingapples6579]

Tipper is no joke. A pretty heavy character, Link, died at 76% from mid-stage

[@johnnycrash4892]

Thats not that good

[@Osmosis-jy6xp]

That’s really good .

[@MorphRed]

@@johnnycrash4892 Lmao, Roy's tipper fsmash which is considered very good is still weaker than Marth tipper fsmash, and this shit is like 10 frames start-up

[@jce1417]

It was with rage but yea, still. No joke

[@kenshiiro]

@@MorphRed >Roy tipper fsmash In all seriousness though, it's because it's easier to hit Roy's sweetspots than Marth's tipper

[@centphilipjumawan4560]

"The Return of the Hero-King" I love these commentators.

[@frostfueledraptor7978]

As a Marth main this video makes me glad to finally see somebody pick up Marth again even if it’s temporary

[@yowza9638]

Even as a Link main, this video makes me want to see more Marth rep/Marth's tippers fixed.

[@moocowp4970]

Since the commentators asked: For Link's bomb recovery there are multiple ways to do it: -simple z drop: this will drop it in the direction link is facing which will therefore send him in the opposite direction when blown up (so, if you are facing the stage like Link91 was, you have to drop it then move forward THEN detonate it or you will get sent to the blastzone) -double jump then z drop: ( I think this is what Link91 did): when double jumping with the bomb there is a period when the bomb is on the opposite side to the direction link is facing. So if you detonate it during that period you get sent towards the stage, but I think Link91 just stuffed up the timing. There are two other less used methods too: -throwing the bomb down, quick falling while moving slightly forward and then detonating. Harder to do but can be used as a mixup if your opponent is pressuring you off stage -1 framing the zdrop: when pulling out the bomb there is a single frame at the start of the animation which will allow you to drop it while it's still above links head (rather than held out in front of him), if you buffer the z drop you won't get this frame so it's incredibly tight timing and incredibly hard to pull off. The advantage being that you can detonate the bomb quicker and don't need to move forward nearly as much, so it can be used when the other methods would take too long and cause you to fall to death (or can be used to surprise an opponent pressuring you, but again, it's super hard to pull off).

[@ZWarrior89]

Lucina mains must be sweating right now.

[@moncay3238]

Jaehwa Jeong I’m a Lucina co-main

[@UmbraMan1]

Good. Their bottom tier waifu is getting exposed for the easy mode Marth twicthThot that she is

[@theexaltedlt8222]

@@UmbraMan1 Lucina is still way better but leo makes marth work

[@riotron1026]

Danny Freeman Translation: You wanna win a lot and play with Marth without being good with Marth? Just play Lucina!😂

[@theexaltedlt8222]

@@riotron1026 it still take so type of skill to use lucina

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Marth is going to war with the lands of Hyrule again. If memory serves correctly, he always wins lol.

[@MeruS-123]

If it was canon marth, link wouldn't do shit to him

[@agentglowstick8704]

Brenda Goncalves If it was canon Link, Link would destroy Marth.

[@MeruS-123]

@@agentglowstick8704 marth's sword (falchion) make him invincible and only dragons foes can damage him, but lets suppose that link bring a dragon in the fight, marth's sword is super effective against dragon and he can heal himself with it Tho i agree that Link has way more skills

[@agentglowstick8704]

Brenda Goncalves Do you have a link to where Falchion makes Marth invincible? Regardless, even if Marth can’t be damaged, he can still be transmutated into a slime, sealed in an alternate universe, or wished out of existence. Link is invincible too. With Nayru’s Love, Link is unable to take damage as long as he has magic, and with chateau Romani or the Triforce of Power, Link has an unlimited magic meter, so he remains invincible forever. There’s also magic armor which replaces all damage taken with rupee loss.

[@MeruS-123]

@@agentglowstick8704 i really like this conversation, no fight , good argumentation , as for falchion making marth invincible to non dragons attacks i don't know how to put a link on KZbin but you can found it by searching falchion on the fire emblem wikia and going to the weapons stats There is also a pretty good Reddit post named "the true power of the shield of seals " that talks about marth's fire emblem. And since i'm a big zelda fan i can totally say that link is a way better fighter than marth.

[@ThereIsNoSpoon678]

Man. I’ve been playing Marty since Melee. Always knew that he’s the best.

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Lol no

[@kirklandthoman1169]

Leo beat the first 90 Links. Link91 has gotten the closest to winning so far!

[@davidkeaton4723]

3:47 I don’t know if Leo reacted to or read that bomb detonation. Either way, that’s ridiculous.

[@jinmiyara2605]

I mean. The bomb was bouncing in front of marth in the bombing range, You should know its coming soon. That would be both reacting and reading I guess~~

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Bruh he just shielded

[@qwerty842]

1:45 Leo notices the roll in on the tech and then immediately reads and hard punishes the next one with a d-air into f-smash V clean and methodical play And then again at 2:31 lol

[@4sety]

It's an amazing read. If you look at some earlier tech situations in game 1 you see it happening there too but Leo made sure to go for the kill confirm only when it counted and let Link get away with it at lower percents. So cool.

[@xrlylyl4089]

Mkleo: Oh right he goes that way to talk to me Link: Oh yeah wrong way Audience: ...

[@xSilverWolfx15]

When I got Smash Ultimate back when it released, Marth was the character I wanted to put time in because he was just so enjoyable and satisfying. But i could find little success with him. Seeing this makes me so happy to be honest. It just is a beautiful sight and feeling

[@DeadpoolX9]

You just have to throw out less moves but make your moves count. Stay zoning on the ground. Marth has strong aerials but high landing lag so stay on the ground throwing out ftilts to bait out their air options then punish accordingly. Also learn to perfectly space out dancing blade ffdf for early kill confirms. As you can see from this match marth is good at racking up damage but really struggles to end stocks reliably. Hence why MK had to fall back on his best move which is ftilt.

[@xSilverWolfx15]

@@DeadpoolX9 Thank you for the advice, seriously. I am going to be trying to put that into practice and learn to be more tactical with what moves I make.

[@DeadpoolX9]

@@xSilverWolfx15 truly the most tense moment is when the opponent is at a high percentage because then you're basically playing a game of figuring out which tipper move to use. Dont quote me on this but I think they nerfed the shit out of fair and fsmash tipper range but ftilt might actually have the largest tipper hitbox. SideB is just fast so that's why I recommended using it. Like I said before I think they nerfed his aerials or just fair So I just tend to throw our nairs as a keepout/approach tool then use ftilt on the ground. I've gotten pretty good at nairs so sometimes it's a kill confirm but like I said. You cant really kill with marth anymore. Also sideB gives you enough wiggle room to time a tipper. I also think they nerfed dair's spike range so you're better off countering active hitboxes or just ledge guarding. So basically you cant be as aggressive anymore. Dont be afraid to camp out and wait for them to approach you. I know how you feel because I was frustrated too. I got over it once I decided to just play keepaway on the ground. Uptilt is a really great anti air option as well. Yeah so tldr my advice is stay grounded and let them come to you.

[@LucarioDXAuraStorm]

2:32-2:38 SHEESH!!

[@ama-oops8791]

先端に当てるのうま過ぎる。これくらい使えるようになりたいな

[@leonelhernandez7508]

Mk leo reaction time for those shields against links projectiles is beautiful to wacth.

[@MrEvan1932]

Honestly was lowkey rooting for Link91. As cool as it is to see Mkleo play Marth, you gotta give Link91 props for putting up a fight against the best smash player in the world with his devotion to Link.

[@ドスケ]

2:33 MKleoが上手すぎて相手もう笑ってしまってるやん

[@khalifrouf2579]

I love how mkleo bodies campy players

[@JONATHANP1619]

Have you ever played Link ?

[@suzuya0]

@@JONATHANP1619 playing link doesnt change anything he just said

[@DomoMoogle]

Khalif Rouf he’s playing a lot more aggressively than an actual campy player, even against the best a campy player makes matches have very little action

[@DefinitelyNotFort]

Not all links are campy tho. I despise links that spam

[@MrJavilink]

That link is campy? lol

[@attspace]

yo it was satisfying watching a skilled player play marth against a projectile link

[@Allplussomeminus]

I like how they got into the sword hit SFX.

[@ylissotato]

Welcome to Altea, Home to the Hero-King!

[@robertlopez5232]

As a marth main, i loved seeing that dair to f smash connect, one of the most satisfying moves. Just in case the fellow marth mains didn't know (or this might be the oldest trick in the book) but if you are too far from the stage, holding shield breaker will launch right towards that bad boy

[@kuuja4345]

That's kinda old news.

[@robertlopez5232]

@@kuuja4345 gah! I firgured Dx probly not the safest move which explains why i don't see many marth peeps use it

[@kuuja4345]

@@robertlopez5232 it's cool tho lol

[@luxi5742]

7:33 F-Tilt not dash attack

[@majaspicot3282]

Link91! C'est lui qui m'a fait découvrir Smash avec son let's play sur Brawl! Beau combat!

[@nonplayercharacter12333]

They called Dash Cancelled F-Tilt "Dash Attack". Which is incorrect. It's better Dash Attack.

[@TheWatchmanOfTheEnd]

@ 0:07 can someone inform this man that he's fighting MKLeo, not some 9 year old Ness on Elite Smash?

[@ddsdwedqwed362]

2:34 Mans really just rolled in after almost dying from last stock the same way. Come on

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Rolling out also has risks

[@KJ-hk5tq]

5:35 if he went for Usmash there I'm pretty sure it would've tipped

[@marcogonzalez9296]

It might. I do the same. It almost always tipper.

[@I_like_your_handle_Mister]

I think he tried but ended up doing an up air. It would've made for a great Thunder Cats moments though.

[@nomanm.5884]

You don't need to necessarily be facing any direction to use the bomb recovery, unless you are doing an instant detonation one, in which case you need to be facing away from the stage and you also would need to wait for the bomb to be at your hips, not over his head when he picks it out.

[@__1194]

先端当て続けるの普通にヤバくね？？ 操作精度どーなってんの

[@mysti_fay]

Everybody's arguing about whether Marth or Lucina is better and then there's me loving them both and just enjoying MKLeo's amazing play 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Well this squanders Marths chance of being buffed

[@mathunit1]

Bitch please! If Mkleo can't win with Marth, then Marth gets buffed. If Mkleo wins with Marth, then Marth is considered high or even top tier. It's a win-win situation. XD

[@leaffinite2001]

@@mathunit1 no its not? Just because he would be considered high tier wouldnt change the characters viability.

[@bluefirelost4650]

Alfons Hedström Well this comment aged poorly after the recent patch

[@BiqNeb]

It's nice to see Link in the competitive scene.

[@countbopula7513]

Why does this look so smooth in framerates and how can I achieve this?

[@rodrigogrover3322]

Count Bopula check out your display config.

[@scouri4655]

dont play smash online

[@MeowModeFGC]

6:00 *tries to grab MkLeo* *Gets grabbed by Leo instead*

[@sergioisaacsantanajimenez7801]

Lol thats funny

[@justanopinion3588]

2:30 sequence was insane

[@v2blanc]

Mkleo's Joker is his aggression and style. Mkleo's Marth is his beauty and grace.

[@MegaSaSoRi101]

1:54 how did he recover from that

[@Exorcist_ali248]

Pulled a bomb, dropped it with the Z button and immediately detonated it

[@MegaSaSoRi101]

Thanks didn’t know he can detonate it.

[@NA-sv4gx]

The bomb blasted him

[@MikemasterX10]

7:31 I believe that was a forward tilt. Correct me if im wrong, but pay close attention

[@SouL-RaZor]

No I’m pretty sure that looked like a Dash attack

[@MikemasterX10]

@@SouL-RaZor Actually I already found out. It was actually a pivot cancel F-tilt. It looks like a dash attack because an F-tilt looks like one, and with the pivot cancel, you still have a forward momentum. It's a pretty complex move, and you have to have your c-stick set to tilt attacks. The animations end lag are slightly different between Marth dash attack and F-tilt.

[@SouL-RaZor]

Mikemaster X10 oh damn Leo = Best Marth

[@aiyka_music]

Watching pros play is like watching the game at 4x speed...

[@geoffcanales6200]

Does anyone know what Mkleo's controller setup is for Joker?

[@riandicielo]

Geoff Canales he said it on a Q and A, he uses no tap jump, high sensibility, no rumble, tilt stick and R for special

[@twiceremoved7339]

I always imagined the sound of a smooth, massive wall of stone colliding with pavement for tippers.

[@smithyandt5168]

That final hit was not a dash attack, it was a f-tilt.

[@chubbyhippo29]

im confused is there a reason hes not playing joker?

[@orangestapler6892]

Thanks Sana 🤞😉

[@Getsuga_Unbridled]

This man just camping like crazy as link. He literally dropped platform and used only projectiles for the first 15 seconds of the game, pegging arrows into Leo's shield...

[@しあわせハッピー-f2c]

やはりこの男……強い

[@CaptainFlufification]

So many commentators don't know what moves are which and it honestly bothers me.

[@marcomagana822]

Captain Fluff same

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

Beautiful 3 stock with tipper first game. I miss prince leo, but king leo is another thing.

[@RurouniMonster]

1:56 TOUCHÉ!!

[@brunop.8745]

I'm starting to wonder if the M in MKLeo stands for Marth

[@ned9542]

Marth King Leo

[@chrislopez5301]

Very refreshing not seeing arsen

[@mikeking087]

Why they talk in the middle of the battle?

[@summers232]

Won't be long before the fuckface Ultimate community starts calling Marth OP and in need of a nerf.

[@mistah3687]

That first game was wild.

[@TheREALSimagination]

No matter how cool Link is under pressure, no matter what his 24-hour job (or more like hobby? It's in the job description, I'm sure), this was a monster he sadly couldn't slay. I wonder if it'd have been different for Melee or Brawl...

[@4sety]

Leo only needed one interaction each to get a read on the tech roll in and neutral ledge getup in game 1. Scary.

[@Deme_Diora666]

In actuality, landing tippers is just practice, saying marth is bad because you can’t land them is not to do with marth but you, yes he could use some tipper buffs but then there is no excuse, this character is a top tier.

[@asapparty]

Leo’s haters are trash this dude is legit the best ultimate player in the world.

[@MajorasWrath1]

How do I fight the fruit with the colored hair playing fruity characters

[@phoenix5095]

As a marth main it makes me happy to see leo picking up marth again but from another point of view in sad cause all these sheeps are going to start picking him up

[@theobonin9137]

2:32 nuff said

[@danielsmith5032]

That's scary marth play and beautiful wave lands

[@tyer6496]

Marth was my first main. Link is my current main. *I don't know who to cheer for*

[@hogehoge9922]

最後ダッシュアタックじゃなくて滑り横強じゃね？

[@6293-u6w]

7:31あたり？なら滑り横強だと思う

[@BigSnoofy]

Why does Marth on the thumbnail look like the P3 MC

[@splaturials9156]

2:32 you shoudlve teched or you justbdie Damn I love marth

[@Fae2705]

This one is my favourite! So gritty!

[@aaronkozelii8300]

Why are there no top link players?

[@aaronkozelii8300]

Jigs hmmm. Never heard of him I guess.

[@jermainedavis7484]

That was forward tilt in the last game kill it's just that MKleo did it so fast it looked like dash attack

[@Testify087]

If you can space properly Marth is better than Lucina for sure

[@Guts1022]

I want mkleo to win this tourney with Marth

[@jramirez4310]

Spoiler, he doesn't lol

[@buroheem]

This is all because of Ninkendo he asked and leo delivered.

[@pauljesus484]

7:31 that’s a tipper f tilt

[@ChrisM12x]

Saw the auto kill with the bomb recovery. Came to the comments to write this and immediately left RIP 💀

[@BranJohn98]

Nothing like a good old duel

[@aquatazer]

1:50

[@splaturials9156]

Link 91 was smiling like yea... his spacing is too good

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Marths Dancing Blade is crazy strong and nobody talked about it

[@Geemoney22]

Alfons Hedström Lol because everyone knows how strong it is. It’s just hard to space for it. That’s why you practice it, it’s not like Roy’s where you just spam side b.

[@G.dot_]

Trying to get a tipper dancing blade is incredibly hard especially being consistent with it

[@dogestranding5047]

You deny your weapon its purpose. It yearns to bathe in the blood of your enemies, but you hold it back.

[@dustinluu5806]

Tipper City has returned

[@Tora209]

00:08 he felt he was playing young link lol

[@rylin2542]

it's about time Marth got some respect!

[@NoxDeadly]

So he loses once n switches off Joker? Lol

[@neverendinghate1005]

Looks like Marth is now Top Tier