UGLY TRUTH ABOUT DUST COLLECTORS (Dustopper, Dust Deputy, Dust Right)

[@atomiczombie22]

Respectfully, these dust collectors were made for sawdust and wood chips, not flour. So this test didn't prove anything meaningful to me, as a woodworker.

[@Finwolven]

At least you know that if flour doesn't clog them up, neither will sawdust.

[@nsgkuaov]

I have worked as a baker for over thirty years , I can tell you now that there is no machine able for flour , broom cloth and blower is the only way

[@thelyingscotsman7993]

And he has a sawmill not 30 yards away.

[@robertsantos4128]

i concur

[@2001rayslab]

@@Finwolven ... its a matter of cost and application....one do not invest in an overkill and over your budget just to ensure it does super.

[@micahgahagan4282]

I learned two things from this video...and they are: 1. “Jedidiah” is Jesse...2. “Elizabeth Hicker” is Alyssa...

[@dlondon1144]

Dude - is everything okay on the homestead? We're not seeing nearly as much of you as we used to and it looks like a lot of re-tread material. Hope you're all okay. Catch us up, why don'tcha?

[@Chris75169]

Yah ! And why the sudden use of Caution tape on the video headers ?

[@wcytc85]

Again no alyssa. Postpartum depression

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

I suspect this is a other video from before winter.

[@matthewcassin2908]

I can't believe anyone would choose to spend their time like this..

[@jedidiah5131]

Did you watch the whole video....if so , need I say more....

[@robertlewisvideo]

@@jedidiah5131 I enjoyed the video. People like to watch how creators waste their time.

[@matthewcassin2908]

@@jedidiah5131 No lol, I did not really watch the video at all. I've seen one too many of these videos at this point. I know the format and it is tiresome.

[@classicstangbrn8964]

Jesse what's going on nobody wants to see this, as said before the separators separate dust from chips, your tring to separate dust from dust, what's going on with you and Alyssa?

[@Ford33coupe]

Why not a video on how things are going? Seems like you just want clicks no matter what. You are losing it on You Tube -

[@alanm2842]

25 videos on garage cabinets is all about the money you tube pays

[@thelyingscotsman7993]

@@alanm2842 yes they're in it for the money,have been for a while now.

[@gfrenchification]

This is terrible.

[@jameshaynie4570]

I am sorry, but your test is not valid because the centrifuge dust collectors before the vacuums are only supposed to separate the large particles and allow the fine particles to pass on to the main dust collector. I have a 35 gallon centrifuge collector attached to my two stage dust collector that further separates the particulate by size. Nice try though.you should be cautious about the static electricity because you could have an explosion. All components need a continuous ground connection to each other.

[@dougmilley2480]

That's right. These systems are designed to upgrade a one or two stage system. I have a 2 1/2 for the road and a 4" in the shop. Both work great and greatly extend my filter cleaning time.

[@salimufari]

The flower and not sawdust test is also all about a consistent particle size & make a reliable even test between the 3 models. I also like a ground wire attached to all hoses since they build up the most static and also grounding to the ground not the concrete floor. So bolts in the timber brackets or a grounding spike?

[@jameshaynie4570]

In my system I picked up a ground from my electrical panel and ran it as a continuous ground throughout the entire dust collection system, branching off as needed. If you have a regular dust collector there should be instructions on how to do it in the owners manual.

[@ian1352]

Surely you want the large particles to travel on and the fine material to end up in the bucket? I definitely want to keep the fine particles out of the main unit.

[@jameshaynie4570]

@@ian1352 no, you want the larger pieces to drop out into a solid container so they dont punch holes in your filter bags that collect the dust, or get caught in the hose at joints and maybe create a blockage.

[@BobChristenson51]

Using flour for a test media is absurd for this test. The separators are for removing saw chips not fine dust. What a waste.

[@jayburris6252]

Bob Christenson my filter gets clogged with drywall dust. A very similar material to flour. I don’t have a problem with saw dust reducing my suction power.

[@PortersMob]

This is what happens when idiots who don't even comprehend the point of a product, decide to review them... Even expensive household vacuums with cyclone separators still have a air filter at the end because its virtually impossible to seperate all the dust particles in a cyclone.

[@zulhitman]

he just showing off his machine$$$$

[@fripp2542]

Anyone notice that Alyssa is not part of this video? Also, her mason jar/canned goods are not in the garage in the background. I'm thinking they are separated and he's trying to make a quick buck on the videos. That said, I'm not judging their relationship but don't try to pull the wool over our eyes.

[@DerMandelmann]

Where would you expect jars?

[@robertlafollette8931]

Seems like he all ready did this before.

[@keithbrookshire]

You didn't watch to 15:03.

[@bobk3840]

All he did was use less flour and checked filters more frequently. Guess what? Same results. Lol

[@MattyIce320]

Wasn't this already posted a few weeks back?

[@keithbrookshire]

You didn't watch to 15:03.

[@MattyIce320]

@@keithbrookshire I didn't watch that far into the first one either🤔

[@JesseHires]

This is one of those “just because you didn’t die...” moments. Search for flour explosion. It really concerns me about the static shock and the flour dust in motion in a high volume of air. There is a much more safe way to make a small flour explosion if you desire.

[@MrRandyvan]

You couldn't produce an explosion using just this apparatus and testing method. If you think you can, do it, post it.

[@mattlafy]

Please no more vacuum tests

[@jianni388]

Ok that's it, somthing is not right. They are hiding somthing. Somthing happened.

[@Texas-Bob]

Please give up on these types of videos and get back to finishing your house. That’s why we’re here, to see it completed. Not these nonsensical reviews that are proving to be absolutely useless.

[@gtuttle4]

I still did not learn anything from this test. These dust collectors are made for sawdust from wood.

[@jayburris6252]

Gary Tuttle really? Are you sure? Not drywall dust or general dirt dust?

[@johnwoods1688]

Works just fine for my drywall work.

[@gtuttle4]

@@johnwoods1688 I don't care what system is being used, when the vacuum cleaner's filter is clogged by drywall dust or any fine dust, you are going to get fine dust exiting the vacuum cleaner. I have had this happing when I am vacuum drywall dust!

[@johnwoods1688]

@@gtuttle4 in these go end remodels I am looking for as close to 100% dust collection as possible. With these clients and their million dollar homes it’s worth the extra money in bag and filters to keep them happy

[@gtuttle4]

@@johnwoods1688 I agree, it's just this type of setup doesn't really give you close to 100%. You would need a large filter like is used in wood shops. The filters are approximately 18 to 24 inches in diameter that dump into a fabric bag.

[@jayschoepp5364]

How about some new not recycled content!

[@elizabethhicker3252]

How about encouraging them?.....hmmm?

[@williamvanderven4672]

Elizabeth Hicker why

[@kennywiens6844]

What happened to the house build? This has been covered already.

[@MrRandyvan]

The delays regarding the house have been covered also.

[@Chris75169]

Struggling for content and just throwing out garbage videos.

[@gfrenchification]

@@MrRandyvan What are they? Why is it near 700 days for a house wrap? If you say to do first fix electrical, then why has this not been done in the near 700 days since?

[@jedidiah5131]

@@Chris75169 You can go watch people chop wood, feed chickens and join them for every meal of the day...

[@Chris75169]

@@jedidiah5131 Appreciate the invite, but NO THANKS !

[@pmur079]

Don’t understand! Feel deceived with your initial goal. You built a KZbin family and are misdirecting us with random videos. Hope your all well!

[@dtwistrewind7361]

Flour is is highly combustible when you factor in the static generated, also I was under the impression that the cyclones were not designed to collect fine dust but the heavier particles, that's also why a bag in the shop vac is a must.

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

You are right, bags are absolutely a must

[@boccabr]

100% correct. Just dumped the bagless vacuum for my old one… No more wasting time Cleaning filters.

[@charlie7057]

When are we going to see more construction?

[@jedidiah5131]

The build is complete....I guess you missed it ....

[@2mustange]

@@jedidiah5131 I guess you are blind or the lack of content isn't keeping me up to date because that is no where near complete from what i can tell

[@cndjonno]

Great video! The way these cyclones work is using the heavier weight particulates drops to the dust collector while lower weights get through to the vacuum so the vacuum's filter deals with that. Flour is very small particulate and weight so you may be hitting the basic dust collection models limit. Using sawdust which has a larger particulate size and therefore weight will see significant improvements over the flour. At the plant I worked at our collection system was 2 stories tall so this method definitely works and scales surprising well. This is also the same technique used by Dyson vacuums. I appreciate the comparison!

[@gdavies6980]

I just blew thru this with the fast forward, a complete wast of time.

[@Cacille]

You really need to ask your audience why they are here. I'm here for house build. I am not here for reviews, personally. I got invested in your house build.

[@railroad9000]

I can this info from almost any woodworking show. I too am here for the house build.

[@jamesdoe4198]

To bee honest, the last two years I've been a loyal follower. Only for the comedic value!

[@flashfire3220]

Is their house finished yet?

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

@cacille snob, keep it to yourself

[@msk3905]

Huh i searched for dust cyclone reviews so here for that

[@sc928porsche8]

Never repeat Never blow out you air filters from the outside in! Do it from the inside out. The reason? from the outside in Blows the dust into the filter helping clog the filter

[@brendangleeson4065]

It's not the end of the world. Blowing tangentially along the filter does remove the bulk of the caked on material. Every time you run the vacuum dust is being drawn into the filter pores.

[@sc928porsche8]

@@brendangleeson4065 Hey they are your filters do what you want I gave you the proper way to do it and the reason why.

[@brendangleeson4065]

@@sc928porsche8 Who elected you the king of proper. You did give a reason against doing things that way, but the tone was very dismissive of people doing it the other way. Now you are retreating to "do how you want with your stuff" but you can't unsay what you said before. In the end the reason you gave isn't tremendously compelling, certainly not enough to justify your firm admonishment.

[@johnnyreggae969]

I worked in a bakery as a young man ,health and safety were always worried about explosions, apparently flour in the air mixing with static electricity can actually blow the building up just wondered if you were aware of the danger

[@-jimmyjames]

my thoughts. flower can flash fire for sure...

[@connorhughey6283]

If you took the proper precautions to ground your assembly, would you be okay?

[@Harrypm3]

When will the house he sided?

[@jedidiah5131]

Its sided...

[@Harrypm3]

If you call OSB siding then sure it’s sides

[@tigerspook1]

More click bait...

[@bretmoser229]

What is up? This is not the "PLfor L" I have enjoyed in the past. Is something wrong????

[@walterh.schreiber7670]

More of that kind of stuff, and I will press the 'subscribed' button. Would be very sorry to have to leave.

[@jedidiah5131]

Bye....

[@brianwnewman]

Did you enjoy them pancakes Jess?

[@garybates5057]

When are we getting back to work on house.

[@davidfernandez7796]

Same question I have once a month some stupidity

[@BigDadio1967]

It's done. Vapor barrier = Idaho siding.

[@roygabriel.2753]

Yes nothing to see here ..maybe next time

[@AndyFromm]

@I'm Your Angel Trump 2020!

[@doncaranci2547]

I, as so many of us, wish for some building videos. This testing products thing is going no where. I have been with you two since the beginning. I am one click away from not being here anymore.

[@jedidiah5131]

Bye....

[@emichal1986]

What makes me sick is the lack of respect for people who been with you from the beginning. Up until now I have been on your side Jesse, and been trying to understand. Now I’m done. Bye.

[@notofinterest]

How many times you need to be zapped till you learn that laying wires on the ground aint that same as grounding?

[@davekrieger7172]

I'm still surprised that he did not cause a dust explosion, especially with how many times he was getting shocked.

[@watcherofwatchers]

That's because you don't understand the mechanics of dust explosions.

[@Chris75169]

@@watcherofwatchers OK ! Smarty-pants ! What are the mechanics of a dust explosion ? Duh ! ! ! Spark + particulates = "BOOM" !

[@Finwolven]

@@Chris75169 Particulates in sufficient concentration in air + spark = boom. Particulates in not-sufficient concentration in air + spark = no boom

[@releasethehounds9977]

It's about the correct concentration as could also be fuel rich. The ignition energy also has to be sufficient. More probable that this would lead to a deflagration

[@rcs368]

@@Finwolven Not to mention the spark has to be "inside" where the fuel oxy mix is, not outside!

[@dalejohnson5148]

When are you coming out with new videos

[@markadelman8028]

Directly from Duststopper "Do not vacuumoroperate thisDustopper®nearflammable or combustible fluids, gases, explosive dusts of any kind. Examples include, but are not limited to the following: Gasoline, lighter fluid, paint thinners, natural or liquid petroleum gases, some metal dusts (i.e. aluminum and magnesium), gunpowder, grain dusts, etc."

[@ian1352]

Wood dust is also explosive.

[@barryulrich2170]

I am a drywall finisher and use a Dust Deputy and Rigid 6.0 with a Oneida cyclone. I have used the 2 machines I put together for 5 and 6 years. There is static but you need to attatch a ground to yourself as you use the tool. I work on concrete and steel construction and this guy's tests don't mean anything to what I do. Controlling dust and controlling static are 2 different things. I don't know of anybody that vacuums flour.

[@robertw.1499]

This video is not representative of what dust separators are there for. I have been using two of them in my woodworking shop for some time. One is connected to a Nilfisk industrial vacuum with 2400 watts with both motors running. The second to a normal shop-vac. In both the Nilfisk and smaller shop-vac, I have a filter bag installed. The Nilfisk has been using it‘s bag for four years and it has hardly any dust content inside. What‘s more important, the filter looks new!!! There is never any loss of suction power, the metal drums under the cyclones catch 99.9% of all the dust . Anymore questions, please ask...

[@normasnockers323]

I think wood dust is easier than fine say cement powder, My system works great with wood, but cement dust gets through the cyclone and clogs the vacuum cleaner. Not easy old mate.

[@robertw.1499]

@@normasnockers323 Yep, I would agree, although I've never tried to filter/vacuum cement dust.

[@UncleDadLovesYou]

For ultra-fine dust, the best collector would be one with the inlet/outlet ports separated by the most distance. Fine dust remains suspended in the fast moving air and gets pulled out by the close proximity of the outlet hose. Flour does not have the weight necessary to be removed by the cyclonic effect. This is an absolute worst-case scenario for this equipment.

[@shaynesabala]

I basically made the same comment and than read yours. This test is very flawed.

[@syrzyy]

So how to separate the floor effectively?

[@1DwtEaUn]

​@@syrzyy maybe a sort of baffle box with filters as the baffles, with super fine you want to slow the air as much as possible so that the particles can drop out of suspension

[@ronniebassett5577]

Disappointed with this video. You are off your game

[@davidbriscoe3347]

why are we not seeing any videos?????

[@ANNABUNDANCEE]

What happened??

[@travismay]

I just don't understand....

[@gfrenchification]

No one does

[@wmrg1057]

There a half hour of my life I'll never get back. Did you serve them with blueberry syrup?

[@promadtrucker5501]

Followed your home build sence the hot tub. Guess your giving up on youtube? Goodluck

[@jeffreypinnock4733]

I don’t think I can watch this stuff anymore. I like to see house construction not dust filter analysis I’m going to de-subscribe. lots of luck in future I hope you finish you’re House one day!

[@johndoe7793]

if you're not making proper vids anymore i will be unsubing

[@johndoe7793]

@I'm Your Angel I don't mind waiting for new vids but this was just disappointing

[@Huy0035]

If I wanted an accurate answer I would request "project farm" to do this.

[@rickybobbyracing9106]

That channle is awesome

[@rts3613]

Yep

[@mikeferris8033]

Surely, just build the house...you are not Consumer Reports.

[@elizabethhicker3252]

OK, you do what they've done and not feel plum tuckers out! Give them some encouragement instead of harsh words. Don't think you'd like to feel the negativity. Encouragement, encourage...

[@danchesney631]

The trick with the static discharge is to touch your tongue to the hose. That provides the lowest resistance, and most direct path to the brain-stem.

[@Dabby724]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Ziggerzzz]

A pointless waste of flour

[@hvfd5956]

Not to be a wet blanket, but you do know that flour dust is Explosive don't you? See news items about grain elevator explosions. Thinking about keeping your family safe. Maybe tie the grounds together and use a wire to the ground slot on a plug? I'm sure the experts will call me crazy....or correct me as they see fit.

[@BlackDogEddie]

Isn't this how silo explosions are made?

[@MrRandyvan]

No, you need a silo for that.

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

With dust collection tests? 😂

[@Erklzanderz]

Exactly! Flour powder becomes nearly explosive once atomized, and this could become very dangerous if the right conditions were met!

[@kirstenwhitworth8079]

I was a software test engineer for over 30 years; I wrote programs that tested other programs. On one hand, I completely buy into this series of tests. On the other hand, I had to laugh at how geeky we (those of us who are watching,as well as those of us who are performing the tests) all are to be so invested in watching a series of machines inhale colored flour. Blessed are the Geeks and the Nerds for we shall understand the workings of the universe.

[@papajoe6254]

Slightly better than watching paint dry, BUT way louder.

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

Hi Jessie, The tests are floored as has been said before. Flour is just too fine, even the sharpest saw will never get sawdust that fine. I did chuckle when you were getting static shocks, I think it is the flour that is causing you the static problems. I have several dust systems on my tools and all of them work very well at stopping chips and sawdust, I have a dust deputy on a 45-gallon drum, my other systems are home-made, 2 are like the dust stopper and, 3 are more like the dust right. (I have collection direct at the source on each tool) As I said all my systems work at about 96% efficiency, so I suggest you need to use sawdust to get a more realistic test. I think that if you used a static wrist band as you do if you are working on a computer instead of trying to earth the vacuums you would get a lot fewer shocks, I could not think of any way to increase the shocks, unfortunately.

[@MrRandyvan]

He said 'floored'

[@Finwolven]

If they work that well on really fine dust (think drywall cutting dust or concrete dust from drilling, or sanding dust) like flour, imagine how well they work on larger stuff like sawdust. Probably around 96% as you said.

[@ian1352]

Sanding dust is very fine.

[@PC-vx6ko]

So I shouldn't use my woodworking dust collector to vacuum up s pastry shop. Got it.

[@mikeferris8033]

My big question is are you going to recover to regular videos on the building the house. Know you have challenges. I am a dedicated listener, but I am changing,,, get back to normal!

[@flashfire3220]

You flew to high near the sun your wax wings are melting and your fall from fame is starting.pretty rapidly.

[@KT-mb3gp]

It would nice if he could finish the house, but they may have run out of money ?

[@canamrider7195]

They did a bed sheet comparison and review. Some were 400 thread count sheets. Yeah, these two can spend money to ruin with their champagne taste on a beer budget.

[@gabevieira8732]

Working around grain mills for a number of years doing repairs/refits of exploded grain mills I can tell you that fine flour dust is one of the destructive thing one can see. Be careful of sparking flour in the garage. If one of those things went off in the garage the end result would not be pretty. Just a guy who worked in grain mills and witnessed the blue flame one too many times.

[@AndyFromm]

Not sure why but the shock snapping sound followed by "ouch" was amusing. 😅

[@ScottyUtHome]

Go ahead and put that flour in your garden. Earthworms love the protein and will convert that to nice castings, aerate your soil, and the chalk wont bother them a bit. In fact, the chalk acts a grit material that they need in their system

[@NorEaster_Cyclone]

They definitely just threw it away

[@georgetreisbach3849]

This one had way too many 'pop up' advertisements.

[@petebigelow6858]

I was Hoping for more then this.

[@donalexey]

Please please make the 3rd part. We are still waiting for the whole thing to blow up.

[@cliffk1065]

Could u please do some interesting videos. Outdoor possible

[@dclatin29]

Boo bring back house build

[@elizabethhicker3252]

Be nicer, how many times do you think others would like to "BOO" you? Be kind, encourage them

[@regibson23]

I've been using a dust deputy knockoff for years and have never been shocked by it. What is causing your static?

[@charlie7057]

Test flawed from start, separators designed for particulates not flour

[@MFCSTUDIOS]

While you are right. This is a worse case scenario. You also get some mighty fine sawdust when running large sanders. so what ever one does the best in this scenario you know it should function excellent with normal sawdust

[@SteveM0732]

Ayep. Dude is testing for the wrong debris.

[@timhodgson4708]

drywall dust is pretty fine stuff on par with flour. You know how much of that he will encounter later on?

[@charlie7057]

Tim Hodgson they used to make a water bucket based setup for sanding drywall that worked great, water caught the dust

[@north4986]

@@charlie7057 I made my "water trap" with ABS pipe and a 5 gallon bucket, it was cheap and very effective.

[@charlesreohr6236]

Did you know static and flour can become very explosive. I would rather you don't keep doing it wrong. I have experienced a bread bakery shop go up because they stored the flour in open bins next to the mixers. The static from a shorted mixer is what set it off. It was a tiny spark that turned into a fireball the size of a car instantly.

[@ian1352]

As can wood dust. Had a massive explosion near here from wood dust.

[@MrKockabilly]

This is informative. Now we know how these equipment will work on flour. Bakers should watch this.

[@pewsician2388]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't these meant to separate chunks of wood out so only the dust goes into your vacuum?

[@Word569]

No.

[@tedtriche407]

What does a vacuum test have to with building a house?

[@robertdell3515]

How many starving people could have been fed with 150 lbs of flour😡

[@elizabethhicker3252]

Thanks for the giggle. You are probably right, but I learned a new lesson about cleaning up flour...which at times my kids have spilled all over the floor! Be nice, encourage

[@learningthehardway6186]

@@elizabethhicker3252 encourage wildly wasteful and ignorant behavior? For the sake of KZbin views? What on earth is wrong with you?

[@GeeDeeBird]

What's the point? It's like testing three hammers to see if you can drive screws with them. Spoiler alert: You can. Since they are wet dry vacuums, are you going to see if they will clean up 5 gallons of maple syrup next? You click-baited me, but you didn't get a new subscriber.

[@Huy0035]

I hope its organic syrup

[@Chris75169]

Any idea what happened to this Timber Frame build ? Has this "Dream Home" turned into a nightmare ?

[@frrapp2366]

need to be careful and ground the systems because you might cause a dust explosion flour and grain dust can cause very large explosions

[@kevinstaveley2386]

When a procedure creates fine dust, or flour, such as when power sanding simply use a free standing bag dust collector. These cyclones are made to drop heavier materials into the cyclone bucket.

[@tribehead09]

Thank you!!!!!!

[@V21IC]

Makes a lot of sense!

[@tomdolan4697]

If you are going to do this kind of test you need to make it more scientific by weighing the flower before and then weighing how much is in the bin.

[@SamsTopBarBees]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

[@216Numbskull]

Jesse, I know it may be a little off track, but where did you get the music for this video? Thanks!

[@Shaymer705Racing]

When you start working on house again , I’ll be back, want to see the upper deck install. Thanks

[@InteractiveRealm]

I have the dustopper in my wood shop and I've never been shocked picking up saw dust. Also I've emptied my dustopper probably more than 10 times before having to empty my vac. Lost some suction as the vac got full but the filter was easily cleaned.

[@tatterit1742]

I pulled out my old Oneida cyclone because in your video you showed getting static shocked and I couldn’t remember this happening. So to my memory I remembered correctly, no static shock!!!! Kinda curious why you’re getting shocked or are you playing it up?

[@noahpineda624]

electrical in the house? plumbing? drywall installation? flooring? molding?

[@601salsa]

What's the progress on the house? Are you nearly ready to sort the chases? Hope you guys arent losing the build driving force.

[@legend7ify]

I am here to see you do something for the HOUSE!

[@allenbadgley2184]

i like what you did here .as for the dust stopper ,remove the black thing .then cut a piece of PVC 1 1/2 " X 5" push it into the hole in the DS lid retest

[@mikej9062]

I suspect that flour particle size is at least an order or magnitude smaller than sawdust particle size. I'd have put table saw sawdust in the 80 micron neighborhood or so and flour at around 8 micron. The sawdust probably also has a much higher variance whereas the flour is sifted through a sieve and would have a hard upper bound. So flour would flow with the air more readily than sawdust and cyclone separators would be more effective on the latter.

[@drumaganger]

I see you have a Shopsmith. Same here and I'm trying not to spend the $900 for the dust collector. For these dust collectors, what size hose do you use between the dust collector and the Shopsmith?

[@Somthinsup]

Not to be critical. But in order for the ground wire to work, it needs to be in the GROUND not laying on a concrete slab

[@hurrycane7288]

We have been using old nylon stockings over the shop vac filters, increasing the life of the filters greatly and making for easy clean up

[@normasnockers323]

Cement dust is maybe heavier.... so would the cyclone be more effective... because of the higher density dust particles than flour?

[@frameriteairdrie578]

I gave you a thumbs up simply for the "chalk line pancakes" at the end!

[@terrystokes7295]

Wow, my DustStopper works great. I never have to clean out the vacuum. Not sure what you need for proof, but i have not used a vacuum bag in 2 years! No testing needed. Proof is in my bucket!

[@corona271]

BFD -- Why do I care about this?

[@jrt2067]

Reached my limit. Bye