this actually wasnt surprising and im glad that the writers went this direction because if ss4 won it would undermine the superiority of the power of the angels. making powerscaling that much more inconsistant than it has already become.
@jdennis8678 ай бұрын
yea but isn't xeno goku even in base form op af?
@socketyellow38 ай бұрын
@@jdennis867so is cc goku, in fact he’s surpassed xeno with universal blue by miles
@sleepysun30827 ай бұрын
both are equal nobody won in this scene tbh. both was tired cc only won because Mui that can only last second and being lucky too
@sleepysun30827 ай бұрын
@@socketyellow3do you even watch the manga both are equal nobody actually lose or won in this case. both not even hurt or even bleed
@Vishnu_Karthik7 ай бұрын
And then there's Gohan Beast which totally makes Ultra Instinct look like a joke. Goku trained with 2 angels and in the end his lazy son who barely trains just asspulls a form stronger than UI.
@ma.ceciliacaballero13616 ай бұрын
0:43 Ss4 Goku actually didnt manage to hit Ui goku his hand blocked it if u see really closely but it still hurt goku a bit tho since it was like So close to him and ss4 goku is no Joke
@khoailang94704 ай бұрын
Yo that's insane detail!
@Eoemnd20242 ай бұрын
yeah
@samueldavidmaganaperez7685Ай бұрын
Aun asi el ssj 4 limit brekaer esta cerca en velocidad al ui señal ya que esquivo unos ataques de este.
@darkmagician577624 күн бұрын
Damn!!
@raelk983 ай бұрын
0:31 the way Goku look at Goku
@kiara40827 ай бұрын
Always gotta love how ssj4 gives you your clothes back. Never understood how that works lol 😂. Because it clearly rips off Goku when he transforms. 😂😂😂
@merimkastrat58467 ай бұрын
Same or similar logic to GT. Both Goku and Vegeta gets their clothes back when transforming back to normal. Closest we ever saw was Vegeta when he transformed back to normal but even still it didnt make any sense.
@56clockwork7 ай бұрын
Piccolo literally has a clothes beam. Clothes magically appearing is nothing new.
@EmeralBookwise7 ай бұрын
@@merimkastrat5846: Vegeta is doubly weird because in GT he wears fingerless gloves in base, but then they become full gloves in SS4.
@merimkastrat58467 ай бұрын
@@EmeralBookwise You get to see that too when Goku is back to being a kid again. When Vegeta powers up as SSJ4, you get to see him transform back to normal.
@hazelafif293 ай бұрын
Time magic i believe😂
@goldenmikytlgp34844 ай бұрын
I can’t believe SSJ4 goku can tackle ULTRA INSTINCT this well. This is fucking great!
@Nfjendndj3 ай бұрын
Because this is not a simple SSJ4, this is a SSJ4 "Limit Breaker"
@fridaynightnicktoons68853 ай бұрын
@@Nfjendndjit’s also xeno goku after using up most of his energy fighting omega and broly. Its not a fair fight while mui asspulls out new energy seperate from god form and base form ki
@MZha-we1xm3 ай бұрын
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885they recovered already from that fight
@Unpluggedx893 ай бұрын
UI Goku still caught the punch
@goldenmikytlgp34843 ай бұрын
@@Unpluggedx89 oh yeah absolutely, but SSJ4 can keep up, that is what is impressive
@TerraCrisis2 ай бұрын
R.I.P Toriyama 💔 🥲🥲, the soundtrack playing would be a great fit for an animated Goku UI vs Beast Gohan.
@Charisonic_5586 ай бұрын
So in terms of raw power, Omen and Limit Breaker appear to be dead even, maybe Limit Breaker having more due to my next point. Even with UI having the ability to dodge most incoming attacks, they were both roughly equal in terms of damage before that final punch. Meaning either Xeno Goku was so skilled he could match the dodging power of UI just by his own abilities. Or he just hits so hard that for every 2-3 hits CC goku lands, Xeno only needs 1 to match that damage. Impressive honestly
@c.t.16996 ай бұрын
Quite frankly I'm surprised Goku:Xeno didn't use the Dragon Fist; we've seen in GT that despite being either beaten up or low on energy,, Goku's Dragon Fist is still capable of obliterating enemies dozens of times more powerful than himself.
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
Its TOP Goku. Current Goku with TUI is far stronger
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
Dragon Fist would have drained his full power and ui omen goku is more durable which means it would be left standing with little power meanwhile xeno goku would fall from running out of energy @@c.t.1699
@Charisonic_5585 ай бұрын
@@reddragon100 nah man. This is CC goku. While yes, he essentially followed the main super timeline at one point, he's a part of the heroes continuity now. Which means broken as hell boosts in power. Current manga goku would be folded like origami by CC goku
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
I meant this version of CC Goku is post TOP. CC goku post- Granolah would be another level@@Charisonic_558
@KasaiWolf073 ай бұрын
Tbh I'm not surprised UI Goku won. It's heads and shoulders above anything before it. Limit Breaker SS4 is no slouch though which really is amazing considering who his opponent was. Goku being able to dodge Xeno Goku's attacks was incredibly helpful. Love the tail swipe though, it really is like an extra apendage.
@MatheusLima-ex3bt8 ай бұрын
The fact that SSJ 4 could hold his onw agaist the power of the angels is insane F blue
@socketyellow38 ай бұрын
Well super’s Zeno
@yourdeadwrong8 ай бұрын
to say ssj4 is even above blue makes no sense logic wise, doesnt matter preferences, goku and vegeta did much better in blue, there is no comparison
@yourdeadwrong8 ай бұрын
and this is limit breaker ssj4 so, not really into the details but it should be stronger no?
@cmon95058 ай бұрын
@@yourdeadwrongthis is no just ssj4 It's ssj4 limit breaker. Kind off like ssj4 with god ki
@cmon95058 ай бұрын
this is no just ssj4 It's ssj4 limit breaker. Kind off like ssj4 with god ki
@jadawngriffis37457 ай бұрын
Bro this shit is actually good
@MaskedRevi3w3r7 ай бұрын
I lowkey thought he would go ssj 5 lol
@Yacine_21uk.4 ай бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣
@gokuluffyTMUIАй бұрын
I hope sdbh make ssj5 lol imagine ssj5 xeno Goku (not af)
@gokuluffyTMUIАй бұрын
Af ssj5 is broken lol.
@Allenryan819Ай бұрын
Limit breaker ssj 4 is basically super Saiyan 5 or the the closest thing to it.
@dabotbruh2555Ай бұрын
@@Allenryan819I think it basically a ssjgss4 he has 10x limit breaker kamehameha which is an combination of exclusive moves from ssjg and ssj4
@Crimsonlake-XL9 ай бұрын
Good fight
@vgc_ivan83915 ай бұрын
I love xeno SSJ4 goku design.
@daonlygameАй бұрын
Ssj4 serious goku and mui goku both serious versions of goku fighting I love it
@mrfire77246 ай бұрын
I love how goku is like "motherf**ker i saw you from a mile away" 0:31
@italianduded11612 ай бұрын
Wait… HOW DID I MISS THIS!?
@fake91578 ай бұрын
Can i find this in aniwatch? Or is this fan made? Please reply 🙏
@tcarafi8 ай бұрын
DB Heroes, not fanmade
@Bluesit326 ай бұрын
"Super Dragonball Heroes". The anime, not the card game or the video game.
@icy-dead-pple896026 күн бұрын
If ssj4 could stand toe to toe with MUI like this, just imagine if ssj4 Goku had MUI. It would be a wrap 💯
@acex7279 ай бұрын
Ssj 4 limit break is way stronger than SSGSS KAIOKEN
@sun332s79 ай бұрын
Probably not… since we see SSBE and SS4 Vegeta’s limit break fighting. So it’s probably just a case of Xeno Goku ssj4 Lb being stronger than say Vegeta’s????
@Kobe381128 ай бұрын
it’s equal
@ejthegoat20033 ай бұрын
Well it uses the power of great ape form so pretty is stronger then blue that's why I said if Goku n Vegeta had they tails they be far more stronger they more experienced is why Goku ssgs form was even strong enough to keep it
@commanderog18793 ай бұрын
Well DUUUHHHHHHHH
@Carlo.Plays263 ай бұрын
SSJ4 can equally match in SSGB Kaioken
@xjacb72238 ай бұрын
Remember this is non canon lol. UI slaps regardless but iirc Xeno Goku scales waaaaaay higher than canon Goku comparing base to base
@HaiseKuromeruMMD6 ай бұрын
This is not Canon Goku fighting Xeno Goku this is CC Goku he's based off canon Goku but way stronger and has stronger feats than Xeno Goku.
@Bluesit326 ай бұрын
Xeno Goku isn't really canon anyway.
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
Xeno Goku is not canon to main timeline and CC Goku is strongest Goku. Xeno Goku used to be strongest 5 years ago but CC Goku overtook him
@ashleybanks-wm4cg5 ай бұрын
This is Canon y'all spread Myths
@Bluesit325 ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg Not really. Heroes is anything and anyone in any situation you can think of. Canonically, people like Fu and Cumber don't really exist.
@tuliopersiano7222Ай бұрын
when dragon ball heroes 55 will release?
@yvuxxx2 ай бұрын
And vegeta vs vegeta ❤
@user-zf7rl6hb5q5 ай бұрын
Doesnt feel canon from either side, but that's the creators of GT and the Super anime telling you how it goes down.
@saberbladefang250Ай бұрын
I surprised that Funimation has dubbed this yet and how sean schummel has reprise his role as the dubbed English of Goku yet.
@mindfreak96747 ай бұрын
Seriously look how much better ssj4 looks. Hate the grey and blue haired bullshit.
@johnstrife73 ай бұрын
I fukin hate every transformation in super
@Frozen_Ketchup3 ай бұрын
A Saiyan with the power of gods vs the pure raw strength of the ultimate Saiyan, Super fanboys really underestimate how strong SSJ4 really is.
@zoio723 ай бұрын
ssj4 is weak like ssjb
@whis63713 ай бұрын
This is db heroes bruh everything dont make sense, but normal ssj4 and normal ssjb in NORMAL DRAGON BALL SERIES in term of POWER UP ssjb better
@MUISHAD1722 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan 4 is weaker than the god forms. But Xeno Goku is stronger with base power level, Goku using Ultra Instinct to fight limit breaker ssj4 is pretty valid. But if Xeno Goku had the same base power level as CC Goku, he would lose to Super Saiyan Blue easy.
@italianduded11612 ай бұрын
Ssj4 is hella strong, especially on Goku Xeno… but the ones you call DBS fanboys… are right. (If they say that the Super transformations are stronger, but I guess it just depends on training and experience) I love both GT and Super, maybe more Super because I did not enjoy the first seasons of GT, loved the Baby saga and on.
@dragzzisback32262 ай бұрын
lbssj4 is way stronger than blue @@zoio72
@sixx26834 ай бұрын
Xeno goku ssj4 has probably the coolest design of all the dragon ball characters
@joeykornegay45875 ай бұрын
As a long time older dragon ball fan, I can accept the outcome of this fight. Even though I have my bias in personally liking the GT characters over their Super counterparts, it’d be foolish to think that the writers, canon or not, would write a plot where DB Super Goku loses to a form of himself that came out nearly 30 years ago now. I’m satisfied and still view SSJ4 as my favorite form. Lol
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
Limit Breaker SSJ4 came out in 2020 meanwhile UI Omen in 2017. Limit Breaker SSJ4 is newer form out of two of them
@vann56014 ай бұрын
@@reddragon100limit breaker is just an addon like ssbkx20 or ssbe as an evolved state so essentially its still ssj4
@baval54 ай бұрын
Besides, Ascended State Goku is much, *much* stronger than SSJ4 and would demolish UI if this video is their comparison. So GT Goku still goes home with the secret W.
@joeykornegay45874 ай бұрын
@@baval5 gotta love how the power scaling of GT is nearly just as broken as Super is, even by anime logic lol
@baval54 ай бұрын
@@joeykornegay4587 Thats Dragonball for you lol
@jacksuhe4 ай бұрын
Imagine that super saiyan form reqch new level combine with god ki, super saiyan 4 with grey hair all over his body
@zindagikepal522 ай бұрын
Ssj4 UI goku vs goku Ul who will win
@Seq-ei2pw7 күн бұрын
did toriyama clarify who was stronger?
@Th3-Unkn0wn2 ай бұрын
I wonder if ssj4 goku can go into other forms
@CarlVercetti2 ай бұрын
When the spinoff about the card game got the power scaling right. Ssb it's REALLY STRONG UI omen is strong MUI is OP but is not abused at all like in the manga. Ssj4Limit Breaker can keep up to UI-Omen it's totally fine for me. Ssj4 should be the most powerful raw strenght that a saiyan can use, merged with the godly ki.
@luqmanalinoordin68042 ай бұрын
final showdown between 2 different form.
@TheV8Pumpkin8 ай бұрын
Im a bigger fan of DBGT than DBS, but. Even i can admit Ultra instinct and MUI is cooler and far superior to SS4. Its not about power, its the ultra reflexes and precision that beats any other fighter. That being said I still love SS4 form its the only true “super saiyan” imo
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
UI has better concept and logic meanwhile SSJ4 has better design
@manipulatortrash5 ай бұрын
Ssj4 is surely a very unique concept that stays true to it being solely saiyan, i can guve gt credit for that.
@hogman35435 ай бұрын
Of course Mastered Ultra Instinct is stronger anyone who disagress is delusional
@ionutortian58854 ай бұрын
MUI I thing is the final stage before becoming a angel MUI and angel are so calm, not losing the energy , they can predict what will happen
@Kakarot72112 күн бұрын
Funny thet many people thinks this non cannon mean something. If we compare dbs and dbgt goku, gt goku dont even need ss4 or any transformations,he solos dbs with 1 finger in base form
@user-cx6lw3zt8cАй бұрын
How
@actualsatan2420Ай бұрын
For the GT fanbois, the transformation that Xeno Goku uses is "SSJ4 limit breaker"and not the normal SSJ4.
@nexusgaminguniverse3722Ай бұрын
Why xeno goku never use x10 kamehameha? Lmaoo they must have forgot that shit.
@SandeepKumar-cf3wu4 ай бұрын
Goku limit breaker ssj4 looks like vegito limit breaker ssj4
@emchie0184Ай бұрын
SSB=SSJ4 UI sign=SSJ4 limit breaker MUI=SS5?? (hope they added it in the future🥺)
@tommyofshaolin2 ай бұрын
BTW, everyone remember,,,,THIS is t canon! lol. Just like people say SSJ4 is t canon, so this video game story settles nothing.
@Clue1519 күн бұрын
did ui goku block ssj4 attack
@jameshollister82942 ай бұрын
This nust be goku from time line 3 the one future trunks never went back too but still saved ss4 goku
@sabichaokujo33073 ай бұрын
glad toei and bandai took akira toriyamas word as well as GT/TOEI databooks to heart in heroes and made ssj4 and limit breaker exactly as stronger as they should be. people shit on gt power scaling all the time because its “not canon”(then neither is super considering akira had the same level of control/work put into both that being almost nothing besides character design) or because its older than super(just makes no sense as a reason) or that they lack god ki(again makes zero sense considering most of gokus toughest fights were against people without god ki meaning god ki is just ki with better control nothing else) whenever almost all of super was influenced by GT as per akiras wishes. literally EVERY god form we’ve seen besides ultra ego are directly influenced by ssj4. and i mean literally, the god ritual, healing, ultimate ki control(which is funny cuz u can be knocked out of blue but ssj4 90% of the time doesnt and has way better stamina), automatic movements(as you saw when gokus tail grabbed goku, and yes ssj4s have automovement), and then it has MORE than the god forms and acts just like ui/potential unleashed and that it doesnt even have a set multiplier. the guide books say its the ultimate saiyan power, a limit breaking achievement that even whis fears. older guidebooks before heroes and super say the exact same besides leaving Super characters out bcuz they didnt exist yet, and that it brings out every last bit of their latent power, multiplies it, and then gets stronger overtime. its literally EVERY DRAGON BALL FORM put into one and its awesome. toei also said in the databooks that goku never mastered super saiyan 4, meaning he had many more upgrades for it ready to be found. but, he then became Change/HOPE goku which is the literal strongest character in all of dragon ball. best overall form AND youre God himself? id like to see cc and xeno goku try lmfao
@Dejaa-Moo8 ай бұрын
SS4 got so much power
@kevsdigitalartsmore37432 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget y’all Xeno Gokus base is stronger then Capsule corp Gokus base. LBSSJ4 is equal to UI omen but less powerful then MUI.
@ejthegoat20033 ай бұрын
Sleep tight
@jdennis8678 ай бұрын
doesn't this fight now make dbs goku a character that is 5D and above?
@socketyellow38 ай бұрын
No, this is cc goku not super goku. Also xeno goku is the ssj4, not gt
@jdennis8678 ай бұрын
@@socketyellow3 i know.... which is y i said dbs is 5d. if i was talking about gt goku then i would not have said this.
@socketyellow38 ай бұрын
@@jdennis867 that’s not dBs goku tho, it’s cc goku. That’s what I meant, it a version of goku that would completely demolish Zeno in base like xeno can
@socketyellow38 ай бұрын
@@jdennis867 capsule corp goku is essentially super’s xeno goku. Similar story, but base would murder everyone in dBs
@jdennis8678 ай бұрын
@@socketyellow3 i know u told me this alrdy and that's my mistake but im saying that in my initial comment i wasn't talking about gt goku. I know who cc goku is. it's just the anime make it seem like it's regular dbs goku.
@ahmedomer93732 ай бұрын
Wait how does ssj4 goku’s clothes get repaired after transforming 😂
@Joshua_X12Ай бұрын
😂
@mattmc98126 ай бұрын
Either way goku is going to win
@masternoob967328 күн бұрын
I didn’t think SSJ 4 could be on par with UI 🤷♂️
@CodeineSkeeter3 ай бұрын
Him getting tired from fighting ss4 Goku kinda ruins the shows credibility for me
@yamialucard87432 ай бұрын
"The energy is about to shift", is it stronger, watch this, MUI Goku > ♾SSJ4 Goku, m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4rGeWmwrZyAl8k
@GeographyCool2142 ай бұрын
I’d say ultra instinct (high diff)
@JoseVitorVianaBrasilVitor5 күн бұрын
Ssj4 lutou bem mas não ganhou a luta
@diparghyaganguly16282 ай бұрын
This is not a regular ssj4 its limit breaker saj 4
if ui goku learnt how to transform into ssj4 then use ui with ssj4 he might even be stronger then gods of destruction or even angels lol
@sir.capuchin52425 ай бұрын
I think you would just lose concentration of the form, supersaiyan and UI are Different
@KK-mo9df5 ай бұрын
But isn't ssj4 based on calmness unlike ssj1-3?
@hogman35435 ай бұрын
@@KK-mo9dfno idoit
@user-ww5ve2ot3c2 ай бұрын
MUI cc goku = SSJ4 Limit breaker xeno gogeta
@ultimateblackmenace2 ай бұрын
Bro idk why people think regular ssj4 can keep up with ui it’s literally limit breaker ssj4 the way stronger version of ssj4 with god ki
@samueldavidmaganaperez76856 ай бұрын
Definitivamente gogeta ssj 4 aria pedazos al ui dominado.
@LuisBrito-ly1ko5 ай бұрын
El de GT? A Ese el UI Dominado de Héroes se lo come vivo.
@samueldavidmaganaperez76855 ай бұрын
@@LuisBrito-ly1ko el gogeta ssj 4 de heroes
@yamialucard87433 ай бұрын
Lol, I have to say this just incase I die tomorrow, I don't want any regrets, Dragon Ball Heroes were sales down or is SSJ4 Goku to hard to draw or is it because Goku can't be seen being over powered in the Turtle School gi, really Dragon Ball Heroes don't get me wrong True Ultra Instinct is a good technique however it has a huge weakness which I have no doubt SSJ4 GOKU would have spotted, *SPOILER ALERT* the technique is instinctual and out of the uses control, also it has a heavy toll on the users stamina, Where as Super Saiyan 4 Goku is in complete control but furthermore in uncharted territory, The Dragon Ball Heroes battle scene is eerely similar to the battle between Jacky Chun vs Kid Goku in the first Marshall arts tournament, being that the difference between their strength was minimal, Mastered or True ultra instinct as I believe the name implies has a limit and when you reach that limit you have mastered this state, allowing your body to move and react instinctively, however instincts are not always right, and have limitations, Super Saiyan 4 however I believe does not have such limitations as I believe the limit breaker ability is literal in it's name sake just like kaioken slowly and gradually everything is taken to new heights as seen in the GT serie the first SSJ4 in comparison to the current SSJ4 is vastly stronger in all attributes including reflexes, By the very same in game video it has shown Super Saiyan 4 Goku has broken through the ultra instinct ability with the unlimited growth of his own instinctual reflexes Mr Popo tout him, however it has come a long way since then as Kaioken heightens this and limit breaker even more so also not to mention training with adult uub. So given this information who is actually still the one without limits, I leave it in your hands if you have followed the serie right from the beginning regardless of your age and know of whom I speak of ^_^....
@balonku12922 ай бұрын
why goku ssj 4 not used kamehame 10x,, that is powerfull move with red colour
@emchie0184Ай бұрын
So used a powerful attack that consume more stamina just to be dodge by ui?? He's doing good he's probably stronger physically but pure power is nothing if it didn't hit
@leonelendruw6982Ай бұрын
Beast Goku 😂
@hogman35435 ай бұрын
Of course Mastered Ultra Instinct is stronger anyone who disagress is delusional
@allshipper21582 ай бұрын
So Goku won?
@y0ungk1ngzbab3595 ай бұрын
Ssj4 goku only one screaming Wjile ultra instinct sign needs to stay calm
@givenofuckz23132 ай бұрын
the main reason I love the ultra instinct form, it renders him nigh emotionless and purely focus on the battle! Ssj4 on the other hand is my favorite because... its fucking SSJ4! XD
@kishorekumarm88408 ай бұрын
Goku is not using mastered ui which means he is still holding back
@tcarafi8 ай бұрын
He did
@startsomethingnew59568 ай бұрын
He used it on the last punch he gave to Xeno or SSJ4 Goku.
@rCrypto_Frog41488 ай бұрын
@@startsomethingnew5956 exactly, he held back to the very very end . . . lol
@EmeralBookwise7 ай бұрын
Pretty sure this is a version of Goku that is still learning how to use UI, and so it's still difficult for him to maintain at full power. He's not holding back, he just isn't good enough to stay in the mastered state for a whole fight yet.
@Bluesit326 ай бұрын
@@EmeralBookwise No, he's got it down pretty solid by this point.
@Reddrum344 ай бұрын
Nice fight but ui Goku got an advance he can sense your move with his eyes closes
@CVargas2024 ай бұрын
i guess not even goku can beat goku lol
@samizgd7770Ай бұрын
Super fans where is now your fighting spirit that ssj4 is strong as super saiyan god even weaker ? Let me answer you u sucks!! 😂😂😂
@reddragon100Ай бұрын
This is not SSJ4 but Heroes exclusive Limit Breaker form
@JacobOuazene20022 ай бұрын
Now we know that Ssj4 way stronger than Ssj Blue 😊
@emchie0184Ай бұрын
It's not ssj4 it's limit breaker
@LoanLe-vn8 ай бұрын
TUI Goku ?
@turkaybaser37768 ай бұрын
What
@horrorpleb2497 ай бұрын
@@turkaybaser3776 He thought CC goku was using true ultra instinct in that fight when in reality it was just Ultra Instinct Sign
@EmeralBookwise7 ай бұрын
@@horrorpleb249: Pretty sure CC Goku is pre-Moro, so his UI is still quite unrefined.
@raiden89917 ай бұрын
@@EmeralBookwisestill wayy stronger than DBS Goku.
@lolegaia5 ай бұрын
The reason why MUI won here , because it's not a mortal transformation. Not only it added strength but also heighten one reflex. MUI Goku base power is weaker than Jiren but he was able to fight him due to his instinct and flawless movement. That's why even if SSJ4 is way stronger in base strength ,Mui will always be two step ahead in fight.
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
Its not SSJ4 but limit breaker which is heros exclusive. It is SSJ4 with God ki where goku fills his body with energy overflow
@lolegaia5 ай бұрын
@@reddragon100 ''Limit Breaker transformation is achieved via a Ki Transfer of extremely strong energy from several other Saiyans into the receiver''. It's a simple power up to the extreme in SSJ4 form where his hair turned red. His base strength is above Goku during the fight until MUI happen (MUI base strength i way stronger than normal UI because Moro can't put a dent on his body). But since GT is not Toriyama creation , OG Goku need to win.
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
@@lolegaia Its not simple power up. When first time he wanted to transform into Limit Breaker form, he told supreme kai of time warned him not to do otherwise it can destroy the universe. Its Heros exclusive form purely. Limit Breaker is equal in power to UI Omen Regular SSJ4 is around SSB since they fought once before in prison planet arc too in their SSJ4 & SSB form
@lolegaia5 ай бұрын
@@reddragon100 That's why i called it a simple power up. The form is still in SSJ4 form meanwhile SSB Goku turned into MUI which completely a different type of powerup. SSJ 1-3 is a mutation of transformation while God ki is a different type of transformation. Super Vegeta (vs semi-Cell) is a simple powerup.
@hogman35435 ай бұрын
Of course Mastered Ultra Instinct is stronger anyone who disagress is delusional
@kyranadrian4 ай бұрын
Am i the only one dissapointed that this looks like shit...
@plebeiangaming56252 ай бұрын
SSJ4 Ascended will never match up to Mastered UI. The preset of fighting by instinct is hard counter to rage based fighting.
@Joshua_X12Ай бұрын
I'm not sure, Gohan Beast punch goku out of ui. And he didn't train for the beast form
@baval54 ай бұрын
It's actually an unfair comparison. UI is Super Goku final form, a form meant to rival gods. However even with the limit breaker upgrade, SSJ4 is *not* GTs final form, that would be Ascended State Goku. This is the form he took at the end of the fight with Omega Shenron, and is implied by its inspiration from Buddhism and his invulnerability and instant defeat of Omega during it, plus his immediate departure from the world and ability to travel instantly to anywhere he wants including places he shouldn't be able to like hell that he *is* a god for this transformation.
@artemiolalo9 ай бұрын
Goku ui winnnnnnnn
@NECROMAGICIAN6669 ай бұрын
goku lost
@artemiolalo9 ай бұрын
@@NECROMAGICIAN666 el ssj4 yes
@pumathanomvajamun5 ай бұрын
Ssj4 >>dbs kids
@artemiolalo5 ай бұрын
@@pumathanomvajamun jajajaja no ssjg>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ssj4
@pumathanomvajamun5 ай бұрын
@@artemiolalo hahaha. I’m so sorry but do you need a book? Because I can give it too you
@timothymoore29665 ай бұрын
This video cap
@Bleeperblopper4975 ай бұрын
Cope you non-canon fantard
@calen40925 ай бұрын
@@Bleeperblopper497 thats rude I like it but i also understood y he lost
@CyberQ30008 ай бұрын
UI > SSJ4 Limit Breaker.
@EmeralBookwise7 ай бұрын
MUI certainly is, but UIS seems to be more around equal.
@pumathanomvajamun5 ай бұрын
Ssj4>>> is still better no matter what lol
@juan1256roblox5 ай бұрын
@@pumathanomvajamunYou didn't even watch this video lmao
@syedayub19422 ай бұрын
Even goku cant beat goku😂
@raygarcia21195 ай бұрын
Lol super always beats gt be mad
@reddragon1005 ай бұрын
Its not GT even. Its limit breaker SSJ4 not regular GT SSJ4 which is much weaker
@jonnytheirish18578 ай бұрын
Goku gt is 10 yeras older than goku super and stil lose😅 lol
@fredfredfazbear66998 ай бұрын
This is xeno goku not GT.
@snyggmikael8 ай бұрын
And since Saiyans live alot longer 10 years is more like 5 years in comparison
@theshibikiwc8 ай бұрын
stuppid
@jonnytheirish18577 ай бұрын
@@fredfredfazbear6699 xeno goku have the same origin of gt goku😅
@jonnytheirish18577 ай бұрын
@@snyggmikael xeno goku is more trained than super goku even if are only 5 years
@mateuszpitala94583 ай бұрын
ultra instinct goku is much stronger than goku ssj4 and vegeta ssbe is stronger than vegeta ssj4
@user-vw1sw2nj5i8 ай бұрын
Goku ui> goku ssj4
@AmarZaidin-sb3xq6 ай бұрын
Goku ssj4 > gogeta blue
@pumathanomvajamun5 ай бұрын
Goku ssj4>>> dbs dumbass kids
@LilGrimey5Star4 ай бұрын
This just proves that the Saiyan forms are stronger than the God forms. If SS4 can put up this much of a fight against UI then just imagine how easily SS5 would outclass it.
@Allenryan819Ай бұрын
This is not regular ssj 4 this transformation is limit breaker SSJ 4 and Goku only required it because just like super Saiyan God he required the Ki of four saiyans to achieve it. Xeno Goku would’ve not have required this transformation with ssj4 alone.
@derekspecht63232 ай бұрын
Can you imagine an ultra instinct super saiyan 4? Or the possibility of super saiyan 5 since it was mentioned in GT. That would be nuts