Ukraine and 'On Tyranny Graphic Edition: Twenty Lessons from the 20th Century' w/ Timothy Snyder

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Sponsored by Rowan Center for the study of the Holocaust, Genocide and Human Rights, the Hollybush Institute, The College of Humanities & Social Sciences and Rowan's Social Justice, Inclusion, and Conflict Resolution (SJICR).

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@Annabelleese1 2 жыл бұрын

Listen to anything Professor Snyder has to say. Always very informative.

@carolinemaybe 2 жыл бұрын

If only more had listened to him before the ‘16 election.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

Watch Oliver Stone's factual documentary Ukraine on Fire kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnzGnoF9q8Z3i9U Timothy Snyder has a long history of using his credentials to twist issues, he speaks to ideology of his donors.

@TheDavidlloydjones 2 жыл бұрын

A very bright lad, sensible and decent.

@Grace.allovertheplace 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% with you 🙏

@coreycox2345 2 жыл бұрын

I think he believes in Russiagate, Edna Epstein. Putin has pretty high approval ratings from the Russian people. I wonder if our leaders might be considered tyrants, in some ways? He admires the Biden administration even though the US is promoting this war at the behest of Raytheon. He asks, "can borders be changed?" while making the point that European countries have not been stable enough over time to be considered states. (Those borders over the last thousand years make a "time lapse" statement if you map them out.) So, he is not always correct. I am just starting to read his books, but he seems brilliant. I am interested in this same topic of how and why people believe as they do in their political lives. It's a lot more complex than Edward Bernays, and there has to be at least a quasi-science to it. I am extrapolating a lot to get there, (until I do more reading) but he seems different from most other historians (who I am guessing tend to be dismissive to urban planners like me.) People always seem to find social engineering sinister. They should think about all the random social engineering that is imposed upon us by government and industry. Nothing seems more important than encouraging the social engagement the US Constitution suggests. Unless things have devolved to the point that we just won't. Wouldn't this be the most important thing to the people? It seems like this history professor is onto that.

@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 2 жыл бұрын

Snyder's books are really eye-opening. Greetings from Greece.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@misskim52 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Love hearing Professor Snyder. He increases my ability to take in new information and use that firm base to see the world news with more light. 🌈🌎🌈

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

Watch Oliver Stone's factual documentary Ukraine on Fire kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnzGnoF9q8Z3i9U

@carolinemaybe 2 жыл бұрын

I truly wish more people would educate themselves by watching these videos.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@nawgra8455 Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@ennediend2865 10 ай бұрын

Same here 👍

@susanbalog8355 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice to see Prof. Snyder looking more robust than when he wrote his Malady book. I wish him good health for a long time!

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@susanbalog8355 2 жыл бұрын

@@paulmicks7097 interesting, sad, documentary

@luke_data_leader 2 жыл бұрын

This is gold! Thanks Dr Snyder. Your voice continues to resonate on this horrific illegal invasive war Russia has started unprovoked against Ukraine. Worth every minute of listening & learning from ❣️🇺🇦🙏🏻

@NorthernObserver 2 жыл бұрын

Unprovoked. Hummmmmmmmmmmmm.

@user-nf5ut9g1y 2 жыл бұрын

If that's what you think, you might as well listen to the BBC, DW, CNN and the likes.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@kamelaparis7489 2 жыл бұрын

It was provoked , by NATO . That was a direct threat . How is this being overlooked !?!?

@IrynaFlorida 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this great interview, I had a few insights as being raised in USSR, then moved to independent Ukraine in 1993. Now I see the difference between the two mind sets pretty clear. Would love to meet with Dr. Snyder in Kharkiv as soon as it safe and Ukraine got it's real Independence!

@frankshifreen 2 жыл бұрын

Great Lecture -Slava Ukraine!

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@jamesmf968 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Professor Snyder, for sharing these remarks and also for raising the issue of donating to relief efforts in Ukraine. I have visited your substack and I've made a donation to an organization.

@edwardb7811 2 жыл бұрын

"On Tyranny" is a classic.

@tomwessling7065 2 жыл бұрын

What about it did you like? Can you be more specific? We are reading it for our book club.

@edwardb7811 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomwessling7065 You can find a short list of the 20 points on what you can do to resist tyranny. I recommend you Google to obtain that list and see if it resonates with you in light of your own experiences. It won’t take long and I believe that some of the points will make sense.

@tomwessling7065 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Edward - yes that is Snyder’s book - the 20 point list has explanations with each . As he said he wrote it as a pamphlet for his students, then his publisher said add some historical citations and we will publish it as a book. The most recent edition has illustrations by Nora Krug. I don’t find it a classic at all . Maybe because I’m old - some of the points are rather superficial, kind of self help type stuff! That’s why I’m asking you (as Snyder says) to use your language to flesh out what about the book makes it a classic to you? If I had read it at a different time in my life maybe I too would have found it a road map to live by? Thank you for responding- I am sincerely looking for another’s opinion.

@edwardb7811 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomwessling7065 I haven't seen the graphic book yet. As for the original, it was written before Trump came to power. I found the book very prescient. Further, it provided advice on how to handle someone like that. The lessons are based upon Professor Snyder's recommendations from his view of fascism, communism, and otherr isms in Central and eastern Europe. You call the advice superficial. I call it simple and sensible. Perhaps your life experience has equipped you well to handle authoritarian leaders and the environment they create. I hope your book club has interesting discussions, in which individuals find the lessons relevant to their experience--or in your case either not relevant or too obvious. Good luck!

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@cclarksonable 2 жыл бұрын

When you spoke about the lights going out on Russian journalism, it reminded me of Sir Edward Grey's remark on the eve of the First World War "The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time".

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@TheDavidlloydjones 2 жыл бұрын

Gee, Mary, you got it.

@rositasultana3958 2 жыл бұрын

Great points, thanks for the discussion, professor!

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@Daha-bracha Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Slava Ukraini!

@mariialion Жыл бұрын

Thanks 💙💛 Дякую!

@robertbrennan2268 2 жыл бұрын

Slava Ukraini!

@kristinamelnichenko5775 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@Namuchat 2 жыл бұрын

I don't want to contradict prof. Snyder the work of whom I admire deeply. But isn't it mostly (if not frequently) big countries which invade smaller countries - rather than the contrary? And to follow up: why is this?

@thisperson3240 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds funny but I think he meant frequency in terms of recent history. Big countries used to attack small countries as a matter of course now it is a strategic decision rarely made and even then is mostly Putin.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@rosestewart1606 2 жыл бұрын

I think you're right but small countries mostly invade other small countries like Saudi Arabia invading Yemen, Iraq invading Kuwait. Even Argentina invading the Falkland Islands

@rosestewart1606 2 жыл бұрын

@@thisperson3240 no it's not mostly Putin. It's still mostly the U.S. and often they are trying to put together a pretence for invading in the future like they have done with Venezuela and Ecuador.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

this is security war, these others resource war, for the taking of wealth. Snyder is not respected in larger society of historians, he's a ideological western capitalist propagandist hack, he qualified to teach American history the way the US gov would approve, certainly, but your children wouldn't get the truth, instead have them read Howard Zinn for true history and analysis , Howard doesn't have a dozen or so propaganda awards, be he tells the truth

@kittlee3704 2 жыл бұрын

Could you please provide the links discussed in the talk in the description box?

@RowanCHSS 2 жыл бұрын

This is a long video. Can you tell me where in the video (timestamp) the link(s) you're looking for is mentioned?

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@dijetalnipsiholog9162 2 жыл бұрын

When Dr. Snyder describes similarities between regimes like those of Putin, Trump, Orban, it sounds to me as a psychologist like something a person with a narcissistic personality disorder does to the people around them. It sounds very much like narcissistic dynamics.

@kkpenney444 2 жыл бұрын

Um, where have you been?

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@TheDavidlloydjones 2 жыл бұрын

No, it doesn't. You're imagining things. Speculating on the manifest similarities between Trump, Putin, and Orban is perfectly legitimate. They are, of course, not identical.

@kkpenney444 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDavidlloydjones Nobody said they were. But are they each 'manifest' examples of malignant narcissism? Absolutely.

@SkyRiver1 2 жыл бұрын

As a psychologist, I understand that one cannot rely on you for a scientific opinion, but you could at least learn how to compose sentences that make enough sense so that people do not take them for the opposite of the opinion you intended to communicate.

@1csibesz 2 жыл бұрын

Everybody who cares about their children’s future must follow Timothy Snyder. Books and videos well worth buying. Books in 40 languages!

@AmBotanischenGarten Жыл бұрын

Rowan is supposed to be in New Jersey, of course.

@nightfallgaming535 11 ай бұрын

thx

@randallsmith5631 2 жыл бұрын

Recorded ~March 8, 2022

@azhivago2296 2 жыл бұрын

Great discussion, but there are some pretty serious editing errors from 30 mins on. Please consider fixing them and reuploading the video.

@RowanCHSS 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, we had a few zoom bombers try to interrupt our talk, so we removed them. Thank you.

@azhivago2296 2 жыл бұрын

@@RowanCHSS Fair enough - sorry to hear that.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@shelleyscloud3651 8 ай бұрын

Love Snyder. Can’t tell you how many people I’ve gifted his books to. That’s said I’m increasingly concerned that he’s only able to see danger coming from one side of the political divides when in reality it’s on all sides. I wonder if he knows this really but has calculated one side less ‘risky’ so is turning a blind eye to their own red flags, subconsciously or otherwise. I think that’s a mistake.

@goruby2 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone in the Russian Army should all turn around and head back to Russia and take back their country from a madman. It would be more honorable to die trying to save their families and the world from a Nuclear war than dying for the conquest of Ukraine. Tell the Russian soldiers before it is to late for the world.

@willmen08 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds awesome, except they don't think he's a madman.

@FramedArchitecture 2 жыл бұрын

@@willmen08 Just as most Americans don't think Biden is a madman. Jesus, do you people ever try to see things from any other perspective than that which is spoonfed to you in the media?

@willmen08 2 жыл бұрын

@@FramedArchitecture funny, I thought you were agreeing with me and then you're saying I don't see from another perspective - which is exactly what I did do.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

Watch Oliver Stone's factual documentary Ukraine on Fire kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnzGnoF9q8Z3i9U

@MarynaDawson 4 ай бұрын

Mr. Snyder how would you comment a history lesson from V. Putin during his interview?

@RowanCHSS 4 ай бұрын

Hi @Marynadawson, unfortunately Dr. Snyder will probably not reply here. I can try and let him know you commented but you may have better luck contacting him using a google search.

@MarynaDawson 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your answer 🧡

@HylanderSB 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, his prediction of war crimes were spot on as we're finding in Bucha, Irpin, and other recently liberated towns in Ukraine.

@joycebell6912 Жыл бұрын

Peter Zeihan says that Russia feels that it must close several gaps to feel secure..

@redsix5165 2 жыл бұрын

Steinberg j you have me belly laughing. Tytytyty

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@joycebell6912 Жыл бұрын

Peter Zeihan says that Russia feels that it must close several gaps to feel secure.. and the reason for now is demographics.

@lizannewhitlow1085 2 жыл бұрын

Words matter. 📚

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@belindaelisa5618 Жыл бұрын

The Peace Meditation Die Friedensmeditation. Old Lyran written as: Salome gam nan ben Urda - gan njber asala Hesporona! pronounced as: Saalome gam naan ben uurda gan njjber asaala hesporoona! English: Peace be on the Earth, and among all created creations! French: Que la paix soit sur terre et entre toutes les créatures ! Deutsch: Friede sei auf der Erde, und unter allen Geschöpfen! Arabic: السلام على الارض وبين جميع المخلوقات! Ukrainian: Мир буде на землі, і між усіма створіннями! Russian: Мир на земле и среди всех существ! Hindi: (दुनिया में) सारी (दुनिया में) सारी (दुनिया में) सलामती है

@sheilawade433 2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know Putin's health status? How sick is he?

@AmBotanischenGarten Жыл бұрын

How about singing the Ukrainian National Anthem? Oh, impertinent.

@paulkelly2140 2 жыл бұрын

What is a woman?

@vincentgiasullo 2 жыл бұрын

Tf does that have to do with this?

@andrewbaldwin4454 2 жыл бұрын

TImothy Snyder's comparisons of GDP per capita in the US and Ukraine are garbage. The IMF estimates American GDP per capita on a PPP basis at $76,027 in 2022, which is pretty close to his $70,000 estimate. However GDP per capita on a PPP basis for Ukraine in 2021, the most recent year available, was $14,325, or more than double his $5,000 to $6,000 estimate. He is obviously using market-exchange-rate (MER) estimates, which are garbage for comparing two countries with such different wage levels as the US and Ukraine. But lots of people make this mistake. (Yes, I am talking about you, Anne Applebaum and you, Stephen Kotkin!)

@plezful 2 жыл бұрын

I’m waiting to hear something but what I’m hearing is nothing absolutely nothing smh

@user-nf5ut9g1y 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the talk. Now I definitely know that reading your book would be a complete waste of time.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@camwhitman5425 2 жыл бұрын

So if Snyder is talking on Ukraine, I can literally take everything he says and believe the exact opposite.

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

@joeyfotofr 2 жыл бұрын

Says a nobody, whose KZbin channel has NO CONTENT.. Right...jt

@carlettesouthern-robert2992 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, @CamWhitman if you're a Putin apologist you can go ahead and do that! Stupid is as Stupid does. Hope the Rubles are worth anything by the time you receive them.🤔 Putin Bots and apologists are very threatened by Dr. Timothy Snyder. This Presentation was Zoom Bombed by Putin Bots. The Putin Bots failed totally at trying to shut down this powerful sharing of TRUTH on the criminal Russian war of agression perpetrated against Ukraine! Truth is more powerful then Putin lies, if we have the courage to call out the lies. Thank You all involved at Rowan University for sponsoring Dr. Snyder's presentation #OnTyranny and Ukraine!🇺🇦 The World has now seen that Putin is a war criminal. The Russian people are victims of Putin also. Stand With Ukraine! 🇺🇦💙💛🇺🇦

@M_alienWorld 2 жыл бұрын

good for you.... that is the power of strong beliefs

@smilinder01 2 жыл бұрын

While I share the judgement of Snyder and the majority of people in the west, that this war is a horrendous action on Russia’s part, and a war crime in itself (as are most of US wars), the fact that he dismisses the stated Russian justifications of the war as baseless, when in fact these can be substantiated, seems ideological, not honest. 14,000 people in the breakaway regions died in conflict led by Ukrainians extremists, for example. Obstruction of progress on the Minsk accords. The official incorporation of tens of thousands avowed neo-Nazis into government forces. US political operatives have been meddling in the Ukrainian politics for years. Where does Snyder hold the US and the west accountable when they pursue their own totalitarian tendencies, generally and specifically in regards to Ukraine?

@joeyfotofr 2 жыл бұрын

That is a respectful response to which I respectfully disagree, substantially. The Troubles in eastern Ukraine & Krim can be laid to Putins intervention's and a criminal invasion (I know that over time, with constant bombardment from Russia it has become more complex). The fact that the taking of Krim pleased some people (including people who are friends of mine) does not make it legal. I have friends in Mexico would would be happy if Mexico took San Diego back; it is a fact that California is 54% Latino/a would that justify the return of everything up to San Mateo County, to Mexico from which it was arguably stolen. (sufficiently arguable so that Abraham Lincoln protested it in congress)? What do you think they'd think of that under Hoover tower? As to Nazis in Ukraine: Far right parties got less than 2% in the last presidential election; I'd argue that American did far worse than that - including hard right racists & actual Nazis. Does that make America culpable for the presence of Nazis? "US political operatives have been meddling in the Ukrainian politics for years." What do you call "meddling"? Is standing up for democratic engagement, fair elections, for less corruption and for an open society in other countries "meddling"? If it is I'm for it... If you mean military intervention as in Iraq War II or endless Afghanistan, or Libya or Panama, or Chile or Nicaragua... then I agree... I do not see evidence of that in Ukraine. Has the US exhibited too many "totalitarian tendencies"? Yes... but, as the Ukrainian people have demonstrated beyond question with their blood, THAT is NOT what is happening in Ukraine....jt

@rosestewart1606 2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyfotofr the US meddles in other countries' because it can and because it always has, because the American people will easily accept the notion that bombing a few million civilians is a way of spreading democracy when the US generally props up dictatorships. The rest of the world doesn't think in terms of good and bad, with only the US or Russia being the hero and the other being everyone's enemy. We don't trust either of you. you have meddled in the politics and the elections of many many countries including those you call your allies like Canada and the UK. You're both bullies who go around the world threatening to use nuclear weapons against any country that doesn't do what you want. In the case of the US that also requires doing what American corporations want. The US has even tried to make countries remove universal health care systems as a part of trade negotiations.

@andrejboskovic3562 2 жыл бұрын

''14,000 people in the breakaway regions died in conflict led by Ukrainians extremists, for example.''It seems that is pure lie .Check this ciphers and sources: Beakdown Fatalities Time period Source TOTAL 14,200-14,400 killed 6 April 2014 - 31 December 2021 United Nations[9] Civilians 3,404 killed (306 foreign) 6 April 2014 - 31 December 2021 United Nations[9] ZSU, NGU and volunteer forces 4,400 killed 6 April 2014 - 31 December 2021 United Nations[9] 4,641 killed[note 1] 6 April 2014 - 23 February 2022 Museum of Military History[10][11][12] DPR and LPR forces 6,517 killed 6 April 2014 - 23 February 2022 United Nations, DPR & LPR[9][13][14] Russian Armed Forces 400-500 killed[note 2] 6 April 2014 - 10 March 2015 US State Department[15]

@KRYPTOS_K5 2 жыл бұрын

Mariupol is the center of Azov. About half of the Azov Battalion (Nazi) is already dead. There are still 400 azov troops alive for while in Mariupol. Russians will kill all of them (but without torture -- till now only Ukrainian Nazi army battalions of ultra nationalists are prescribing and doing torture against Russian POWs to my knowledge. Of course I may change my position about unilateral torture against Russian POWs if confronted to evidence)

@paulmicks7097 2 жыл бұрын

from what data available there 3 battalions or about 15,000 hard core, but like any military contains 50% hardcore nationalist, the others treat it as a job, plus Ukraine has the mandatory 2 years for those not in college, fact check needed.

@SkyRiver1 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Russia can't hack it against a real opponent, so they have to attack countries with third rate defenses. Maybe putin's only play is to threaten nuclear war, because in a conventional conflict the state of California alone would take his forces behind the wood shed and spank them until they cried for their mommy. You Russian state workers are disgusting. You betray your own people with your insane authoritarian dreams of something that you never were. You were never anything but bullpux. When the big boys dissolved the USSR to cover up the crimes of your fearless drunk leader, people ran for the border to get out. Russia is finished. The war in Ukraine will accelerate it's demise: shrinking population, highest rate of alcoholics and drug addicts on earth, an epidemic of HIV infections. Russia is a crap country, no wonder your birth rate is negative, anyone with a brain wants their children to have more to eat than bowls of tears. You make nothing, but criminals to rape the economy. You have one of the biggest thieves on earth as leader. All his pals hold his grift in dummy corporations set up by German lawyers in Panama. If you had any balls at all you would stand up for yourselves and get rid of the murderous misanthropes that oppress you, but you are too stupid to maintain a democracy, and always long for the jackboot of the oppressor in your face. Russian history is something to be deeply ashamed of. Especially what you have allowed to happen to your own best and brightest. And I might add: the best Russians on earth live in America, and they are wonderfully talented and have thrived far beyond what they could have under your monkey minded systems of self-suppression.

@AntonioLima-mv5cg 2 жыл бұрын

The Historian propagandist!

@workingproleinc.676 2 жыл бұрын

American spotted: Opinion Rejected

@joeyfotofr 2 жыл бұрын

There are over 250 M Americans... that is really a very primitive form of bigotry.

@SkyRiver1 2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyfotofr There are well over 300 million citizens of the USA. But the rest of your statement is accurate.

@BlueWizardsII 11 ай бұрын

This is sort of off topic, but do you know much about the role that this person played in Ukrainian and Russian history: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hryhorii_Skovoroda