Ukraine intercepts Russia's Kinzhal missile?!? Here's what happened

Ukrainian and American Defense officials have now both confirmed an intercept of Russia’s much-hyped “hypersonic” Kinzhal missile during a Russian missile and drone attack on May 4.
But nothing in warfare is ever quite so cut and dry, and in the days following this intercept, a number of competing narratives emerged; some born out of genuine confusion about Ukraine seemingly denying the intercept, others out of seriously questionable evidence making the rounds on social media, and of course, more still driven by the Kremlin’s sprawling I.O. (information operations) machine.
So here's the complete breakdown of what Kinzhal is, what the Patriot air defense system is capable of... and what really happened on May 4.
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[@msytdc1577]

Turns out the real Kinzhal missile is the friends we made along the way.

[@Bustermachine]

The Ukrainians?

[@msytdc1577]

@@Bustermachine Well, I'm just referring to this particular incident (Ukrainians were already friends), so that expert who came with circles on photos, those willing to admit they were wrong like Alex here, and of course the Ruzzian bots spouting their nonsense, always good for a laugh and a 'cope' response from someone in the comments, classic.

[@Shinobubu]

Plays TheMissile.webm

[@Silver_Prussian]

Turns out anderi is dead wrong because it was a BETAB-500 in one of the pictures he posted he literally put an image of a Betan mounted on an aircraft then the main part of the wreckage with the hole he literaly gave the real answear accidentally. The previous so called crash of a kinzhal doesnt make sense because the crash sight is located in the southwest from the base where the migs are so why would a mig go southeast then turn west in direction for ukriane and only then fire the missile ? Besides we dont know where this missile was suppose to go so we dont know its trajectory ? An accidental launch of p800 oniks seems plausible since there are russian ships which carry it in the caspian sea

[@khanaliqasim1757]

LOLLLL

[@JCtheMusicMan_]

Some may now say, Did I say hypersonic? I meant hyperbolic 😅 (as in hyperbole) 😂

[@ProfessorJayTee]

I used to work with a man who earlier headed a Patriot battery in the 1991 Gulf War. He said that during and immediately after that conflict, upgrades and improvements to the system were incredibly rapidly designed and deployed as weaknesses came to light. I fail to see how that wouldn't have continued to this day.

[@atvkid0805]

fake news

[@brenatevi]

@@atvkid0805 А ты говоришь по русски?

[@s.k634]

Of course your friend lied

[@Rhaspun]

It wouldn't surprise me if there are some Americans near the Patriot systems who are monitoring and taking notes to come up with more improvements.

[@Andy-kl1ry]

No matter how the patriot air defense system is improved, it cannot destroy aeroballistic hypersonic targets. Just as he cannot destroy the "iskandar", the predecessor of the "dagger".

[@GegeDxD]

There is a good video which explains why ukrianians thought they downed 6 Kinzhals, but actually did not. Most likely only 2 kinzhals were sent and both hit the target.

[@Anthrofuturism]

Kinzhal, more like Kanceled

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

good one

[@TheGrindcorps]

Nah. Only evidence offered has been taken directly from Ukraine Defense Ministry saying “believe us,” as if they have ever been trustworthy. Patriot has trouble shooting down rockets fired by Islamic Militants in Yemen.

[@alexlocatelli2876]

Not that sharp a dagger after all. 😂

[@Thatdamnsmith]

HA

[@octagonPerfectionist]

cancel culture is at it again

[@glenn_r_frank_author]

"More hype than hypesonic"... love it.

[@dmacpher]

HyperboleSonic 😂

[@machdaddy6451]

That's seems to be so true of most of Russia's claims.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Nicely done sir.

[@TheGrindcorps]

Uh, it is hypersonic. It is a maneuvering quasi-ballistic missile. This is like saying F-117 is only hype because one got shot down. At least with that we can confirm it was actually shot down. The evidence of this offered is “trust us,” basically. Time will tell if their claim is true or not. Considering it has been optimized to defeat systems outside their own S-500 I’d be skeptical.

[@h8GW]

hypeRsonic

[@ryanp6267]

I had some guy claiming the patriot systems hydraulics were going to quickly fail in the wet dirt environment of Ukraine. Yeah in the 30 years it’s been in development it has never gotten wet or dirty.

[@gabrieldominguezcuevas4223]

Thank you for your amazing videos and your accuracy in reporting and making them interesting as well. Best military news out there !

[@technoartfest8708]

That's complete propaganda . Just fake news. Even NATO admit that their Patriots defenses were hit by kinzhall. 🙂 This is the reality of what happened.. Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev. Following a major strike on the Ukrainian capital Kiev in May 16, which involved use of multiple missile classes including deployment of Kinzhal ballistic missiles against Ukraine’s Patriot air defence systems, new information regarding the strike has continued to emerge. With Western sources having confirmed that a Patriot system was taken out of action, the Russian Defence Ministry on May 18 reported: "According to verified information, as a result of a strike by the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in the city of Kiev a multifunctional radar station, as well as five launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by the United States were hit and completely destroyed on May 16, 2023.” It was previously only confirmed that the radar station, which provides command and control for each Patriot unit, was destroyed. Ukraine received two units of Patriots from mid April, with the first delivered less than a month before the recent strike. The United States repeatedly proved reluctant to provide the assets or to allow its European allies to do so, not only because this would deplete the relatively limited arsenals available to the U.S. Military and its allies, but also because of their extreme cost and the significant reputational damage which their destruction in combat could cause. The system’s failure was widely predicted in light of its highly modest combat record against much simpler missiles than those in Russia’s arsenal. The Patriot system targeted reportedly fired 32 interceptors at the Kinzhal ballistic missiles that targeted it, all of which failed, with this salvo alone having cost approximately $96 million.

[@Rom2Serge]

​@@technoartfest8708 Let this man live in his fantasy world. No offense , but all the people I have met felt like people from USA are most propagandised people I known. I have a boyhood playfellow who's family emigrated to USA years ago. So visited him around in 2014 , many people I spoken with there , who even newer been out of US , were saying things like , USA is best and richest, most freedoms and overall best coutry in world , and that I should move to USA too. I mean many people were very nice , and hardworking. Tho general impression I had that in US people are very propagandised . Maybe its good for a country, that it gives stable society wi no o little turbulences. But for other reason government may do with such people what ever they want to. Of course there many smart , and intelligent people, but I was in my 20s and didn't care of it all , but what struck me that all people were like - man move to US, is a real first world country, you will have a good life here not like in your Europe , Russia , Ukraine .

[@willymac5036]

This is something I have tried to explain to critics of the MIM-104 Patriot system, albeit unsuccessfully for the most part. The current system is NOT the same system used during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. It has had a myriad of upgrades over the last 32 years and is now a FAR more capable and effective system than what was used to intercept Iraqi Scud missiles in the early 1990’s.

[@NoName-ds5uq]

Most people I think do not understand the difference systems upgrades can make. I’ve seen the difference in my time in the Royal Australian Navy decades ago(before Desert Storm). New radars, new missiles, new software, etc., can almost create a whole new warship in terms of capability. The same principle applies.

[@whonextinhiphop]

It's the exact same. The current system couldn't stop Yemenis Iranian built drones and missiles from hitting Saudi oilfields. Same Old garbage patriots.

[@Booz2020]

Can PAC 3 be used to shoot down Chinese DF Hypersonic Missiles ❓

[@Shinobubu]

@@Booz2020 no need. you just need to move to the side. They can't hit moving targets.

[@whonextinhiphop]

@@Booz2020 Our radars on the patriots can not see the hypersonic missiles cuz if their speed...If a radar can't tracked or spot a missile, it can't coordinate interceptors to it. It's that simple. Bruce Lee has a better chance dodging a bullet at point black range than a patriot or Aegis System spotting or tracking a hypersonic. These things are moving at mach 10.

[@mikedrop4421]

It's so ridiculous that people compare the 1991 version of Patriot with today's version. With all the high value targets protected by Patriot why would the pentagon just leave it alone for 3 decades while we upgrade every other system constantly. It's laughable. That's like saying the S-200 and S-400 are the same because they are both in the S family of AA systems.

[@jerelull9629]

The S- series are all operated by the same poorly trained conscript troops, so ARE essentially the same. If the operators don't press the right buttons, the systems fail, in other words.

[@thryce82]

91 version of the patriot wasnt bad. its blast frag warhead is very effective again fighters. The problem is that missiles on a ballistic arc dont give 2 damns about shrapnel. They have expended all of their fuel in the first minute of flight and at such a high angle of attack what damage shrapnel causes only throws them off course slightly. They will probably miss but land close enough to damage sth imp. Im sure Ukraine would love as any 90s version of patriot that they could get

[@xraymind]

It's like comparing Intel 486 processor from around the same time with current generation of PC processor.

[@timclinton9427]

Ahhhhhhhh MONEy 🤫

[@timclinton9427]

​@@jerelull9629poorly trained Conscripts ya reckon?¿. Air defence systems are mostly autonomous...any retard can push the fire button

[@xt7519]

Good video, I especially liked that you mentioned that you were fooled initially as well, but that you kept an open mind and continued to evaluate data as new information came in. Not many do that. I subscribed to your channel based solely on this video.

[@denniswhite166]

So did I.

[@Andy-kl1ry]

@@denniswhite166 And in the end you were deceived, saying that the "patriot" destroyed the "dagger". :)))

[@yomama629]

@@Andy-kl1ry you didn't watch the video, did you?

[@Andy-kl1ry]

@@yomama629 not so :)

[@yomama629]

@@Andy-kl1ry is "not so" the only thing your Russian to English translator could come up with?

[@EmpMidas]

Loving this channel!!!

[@rob6052]

Russia, putting the Hype in Hypersonic, since 2018.

[@Test4Echos]

Well, it wasn't a Kinzhal Ukraine shot down. Just a little fact for you before you go on.

[@MacTac141]

@@Test4Echos No, it was. I’m sorry you and your vatnik buddies are having a having a hard time digesting it but turns out when Putin says something is “invulnerable” to western systems, he may actually not be telling the truth🫢

[@Test4Echos]

@@MacTac141 No, it wasn't. Firstly, no ballistic missiles were in the air that night as has been reported by the Center for Strategic Communications and Information Security. Secondly. anyone with an objektive mind can clearly see that the missile shown with Kievs mayor Klitschko standing beside it and holding his hand on it, is NOT a Kinzhal because of the size. It's not even close. I understand you guys need to clutch at straws here, but this is just redicilus.

[@MacTac141]

@@Test4Echos Oh, but I thought Kinzhal was a hypersonic missile not a ballistic missile. Are you saying your Lord Putin outright lied? Crazy It was literally explained in the video mate the thing he’s holding is not the nose cone but part capsule for the warhead, the wreckage has been broken down by many experts and it’s definitely genuine of a Kinzhal. I understand you vatniks of limited intelligence likely don’t know what your own systems look like but there it is for you ;) Of course the Ukrainians made denials initially, that’s standard procedure when your entire military is on a media blackout in preparation for the largest counteroffensive operations in almost a year, nothing gets released or confirmed publicly unless the military leadership determine its smarter to do so. Is anyone really surprised either? Despite Putin’s claims Kinzhal is just an air launched ballistic missile, not a HCM or a HGV. The Patriot system is more than equipped to take out such threats, particularly when it only has a single target to contend with. There’s no systems limitation reason for why this wouldn’t be a probable outcome

[@kekkoinen]

​@@Test4Echos it's not the entire missile, it's a pet of it. It also looks roughly the correct size, so either you're blind or talking shit

[@dmacpher]

Posting before the ольгинские тролли show up so I can enjoy the unhinged replies 😂

[@scotthazelton519]

Thanks for sharing

[@powellhammond5558]

My absolute favorite military channel you deserve it from Texas we love your content please keep up the good work watch you everyday I'm able!!! GREAT JOB WIN LOSE OR DRAW YOUVE WON SIR!!!

[@warpdriveby]

I'll bet it really burns Putin's nuts that our gear actually works as advertised. (EU or US)

[@Gusto20000]

I bet he doesn’t even heard about it, grandpa just reads the paper reports that FSB is feeding to his dumbass, he doesn’t know how to use the smartphone. He’s just stupid evil fascist

[@sogerc1]

Putin: wait, they are not exaggerating their capabilities?! Uh-oh...

[@nommchompsky]

That's the power of accountability. Don't get me wrong, western arms manufacturers still find other ways to be a little corrupt, but in the end the weapons have to work

[@rustyshaklford9557]

@@nommchompsky if you're not counting dogshit like the LCS program ships as weapons, maybe.

[@chrisp2249]

'Our" gear???? as if you fucking invented it lol Its never been advertised that it could shoot down a hypersonic and to this day there is zero proof it can. USA failed its last hypersonic test and still doesnt have a functioning hypersonic. Not a single test from research and development has shown it can shoot down a hypersonic. Even one of the guys that wrote the software for the patriot says they can even track or identify objects going that fast. I suggest you find better sources or not be so naive.

[@givemeabreak8784]

Kinzal is like their best tanks in the world..... just a regular, nothing special.

[@dbyrd7827]

Great coverage. Thanks

[@alaricoarvalho8999]

Thank you for the fantastic explanation buttressed with facts and counter facts, as they should be. Waiting for more such research and Kudos...

[@flightscapeaviationphoto]

As always, excellent narrative and coverage Alex 🤙

[@Mortablunt]

Yes a narrative much counter to facts kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5jOnXtmbpqib9U

[@jamesprice718]

Alex you went hard and slapped them down with the "Scooby-Doo " analogy😅😂😊 keep up the good work and congratulations on your reporter nomination!!!!

[@sergiitk]

Ukrainian here. Your pronunciation is on point. The reason you may see 'g' swapped for 'h' is a change in the transliteration rules Ukraine uses, but both letters meant convey the same sound. For example, if I would've gotten my passport just 2 years later, my name would be spelled Serhii, not Sergii. I guess the idea is to be clear it's not a soft g, but closer to hard g.

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

badass patriot system

[@HERETIC529]

1. Russia makes boast about missile 2. Missile gets shot down 3. Russia 😮

[@Cryosxify]

authoritarian states love to lie about their capabilities. something about looking strong when you are weak

[@mr.nemesis6442]

The Russians love to exaggerate their capabilities. The MiG-25 is a perfect example of this.

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

@@mr.nemesis6442 the Foxbat loop

[@steveofthewildnorth7493]

@@mr.nemesis6442 Granted, but DoD fell for the hype. In their defense, during the height of the Cold War it was better to be safe than sorry and I'm kind of glad they did. The result was the F-15 Eagle. Arguably the finest interceptor on earth prior to the F-22 Raptor.

[@hawkanonymous2610]

@@Just_A_Random_Desk To be honest, the foxbat was a good plane for what it was supposed to be. The issue is, the enemy it was supposed to fight was never developed by the US which went a different route instead.

[@timsullivan4566]

"Well, yeah - this IS just me flexing, BUT..." 😆😆😆👍👍👍

[@terencewalker8915]

Ah.... Make that scratch 6 more. Launched from air land and sea.

[@NNICKKK]

Big fan Alex. Your content is absolutely excellent. ❤

[@briancavanagh7048]

Your verbal content is really good, but I find your stock video use annoying & distracting. The video editing is too fast and irritating which takes away from your research and actual content. Stock video from a library is what the TV networks use to entertain their audience making up for their lack of information, background and a real crafted story. Please up your video game by adhering to “less is more”.

[@NNICKKK]

@@briancavanagh7048 I think some of this is fair, but none of this content is especially easy to produce in an engaging manner and remaining timely for the viewer I would argue. And at the end of the day, it is essentially ‘current affairs’ and while I’m sure he would like 3 months to produce a more ‘polished’ video (by your standards)… the relevance would not exist. Viewing Alex’s content as a credible source to flesh out mainstream news (in the uk at least) is where he gets the mark spot on. Remember attention span is dwindling, and punchy editing is favoured. For me, none of that distracts from the quality.

[@briancavanagh7048]

@@NNICKKK Hey Nnickkk. Thanks for your response. I would refer you to the YT content of Perun. Essentially his content is a power point presentation with no video content at all. His high quality content is based on his verbal narration content not his fixed images, which he does one presentation a week. Your verbal content Nnickk is first rate so no need for you to get too worried about providing fast video editing. “Less is more”

[@Cyrribrae]

LOL that ending Scooby-Doo stinger was excellent haha. Great work explaining this as always Alex. I was kinda confused about all this and decided to wait for more comprehensive reporting from people who know better. From how confusing all of this is, looks like that was a good decision! Reassuring to hear Patriot still going above and beyond and doing good work. We'll see if someone can develop something to counter the other hypersonics or not

[@velvetmagnetta3074]

Last I heard, we're developing a land-sea-air-space integrated satellite system to detect, track, and intercept future possible hypersonic _maneuverable_ threats.

[@seekrengr751]

Work on countering HGVs has been ongoing for a while now. Medium or long-range HGVs, like ICBMs and IRBMs, attain exoatmospheric altitudes during midcourse - HGVs do this in order to attain terminal high speeds used for maneuvers ("climb high, then dive fast and glide"). They are vulnerable to interception during midcourse phase by kinetic vehicle interceptors like those on the SM-3 series, interceptions which typically occur in the Mach 20+ range. I worked the SM-3 Blk IIA program before retirement back in 2012, and lets just say the program was very aware of maneuverable HGVs like the Chinese DF-21D ("carrier-killer") missiles back then. While I can neither "confirm nor deny" that SM-3s are now capable of intercepting true maneuvering HGVs (not "air-launched IRBMs") in midcourse, lets just say an assumption that in the last ten years some progress has been made is not hype.

[@velvetmagnetta3074]

@@seekrengr751 - That's much better than anything I could say about the program! I had just seen one video of a conference on countering hypersonic threats by the Center for Strategic...something or other and a really good video or two by Military Aviation History - both channels are available on KZbin if anyone's interested...(anyone who _didn't_ literally work on an anti-hypersonics program 😉).

[@davidelliott5843]

HGVs cannot manoeuvre. The dynamic forces would rip them to shreds. They also cannot use any form of radio control including GPS. The plasma created around the aircraft has the same effect as any other re-entry vehicle. They “can” use inertial guidance but the vibration of ultra high speed flight makes that unlikely. Basically you can have a hypersonic ballistic vehicle that’s aimed before it goes hypersonic. It’s called a ballistic missile. Anything else is pretty much pointless.

[@piotrd.4850]

@@seekrengr751 I see no reason why they wouldn't be - I just expect engagement envelope to be somewhat different and smaller, as well as I think that issue might be actually minimum range at which SM-3 can be used successfully.

[@jeffdixon321]

This reminds of the Nazis. They were so focused on 'wonder weapons' that they didn't produce enough of that which was working. If the Nazis had forgotten about their long range bombers to reach America and bombing England with V2s and instead had concentrated on producing more Focke-Wolfe 190s and ME262s they might have survived long enough to realize the 'bomb. But instead they got 'distracted' with 'toys.' That seems the case here. If the Russians had focused on drones, and better tanks and ground attack aircraft this war might be different.

[@toddmoore139]

Im really grateful for this channel.

[@69shadesofyeezeezs47]

Russia: Boasts and lies about literally all its weapons. Nato: Believes it all, starts to develop "solutions" to the bs russian weapons. Nato 1 year after: "wait wtf is this? y are we winning so hard?"

[@cookiecola5852]

Russia is a guard dog with a spikey collar and a voice recorders, and the barks of a big dog on the recorder, it also like to show those bloodthirty fierce teeths so there that, but when deception is revealed it tries to hide, and you can only hear the noise of a dog in extreme distress or pain😂

[@gikigill788]

The F15 saga repeating all over again. The Foxbat scared the US so they developed the F15 and turns out it was so well designed it works well even 50 years later and will probably fly for over 60 years.

[@Jacky-zt5ch]

It’s like developing F-15 to counter MiG-25 all over again

[@forsaturn4629]

F15 vs Mig25 moment. F15 was basically made to solve a problem that never existed

[@DanielAkinkajou]

I think Putin really believed his military was one of the top militaries in the world. Otherwise he wouldn’t have invaded. His generals lied to him. He even allocated a lot of money to his military when it was clearly in decline during the collapse of the Soviet Union. They presented him with parades and show these weapons and believed all the hype. I think he realizes now how much of a fraudulent weak army they really are.

[@DJDarkrobe]

Great job digging into this and kudos for naming your sources as well as stating your limitations. Keep up the great work Alex!

[@williamzk9083]

Indeed Kudos for a lot of hard work.

[@alexbirch1013]

Great analysis ❤

[@tnuag01]

Thanks - interesting and informative.

[@tokki323]

When the word comes from Ruzzia, I run out of salt, I don’t ever have enough 🧂 salt!……Great presentation Alex, appreciate the hyper-detailed work👍🏻…Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@Uchiha_Patir_]

Fake news when shoot down khinzal😂

[@kekkoinen]

​@@Uchiha_Patir_ source?

[@atzeschepers6728]

The Netherlands will supply parts of a Patriot air defence system, specifically 2 launchers and missiles, to Ukraine. The Netherlands is also responsible for training Ukrainian soldiers. Further The Netherlands will supply 100 vehicles fitted with anti-aircraft guns that were commercially purchased in the Czech Republic. Netherlands Minister of Defence Kajsa Ollongren reported this to the House today. During the Ukraine Defense Contact Group in Ramstein, Germany, agreements were made to accelerate the replacement process for the Patriot. In Ramstein, the ministers of defence met for the eighth time.

[@Boeing_hitsquad]

*CORRECTION* during desert storm Patriot had a 94% interception rate, the problem was the SCUDs were breaking up and the warhead section would break loose from the SCUD before interception. And the Patriots didn't destroy the warheads on many intercepts. Leading to secondary explosions on the ground. ... Also PAC2 GEM-T are probably a large number of the donated missiles sent to Ukraine. Germany has ordered 100 GEM-T interceptors. (Likely replacements) You would also want to use PAC2 GEM-T for maximum coverage against Russian missiles over a large area. The batteries are most likely a mix, with a large amount of GEM-T made for interception of theatre ballistic missiles over a large area

[@nihluxler1890]

The 94% was just a clever bit of propaganda. They counted Iraqi SCUDS missing their target, something that they did the vast majority of the time because of their unguided nature and the Iraqis poor targeting data, as « successful intercepts ». The actual range of successful intercept of the OG patriot for ballistic missiles was between 3 and 5%. And I don’t know what versions the Saudi got, but those still struggled like hell against Iranian supplied and homemade Houthis long-range weaponry, including cruise missiles.

[@Mortablunt]

So that’s like trying to block someone from hitting you and you brush your forearm, but they still crack you in the face

[@hresvelgr7193]

@@nihluxler1890 It's really not propaganda. If the missile is not going to hit anything but desert why waste a missile on it. As for the Saudis it is widely known that they are incompetent

[@renetanchico6901]

I completely agree with you!! Patriot defense system is a hit to kill interceptor defense system. It doesn't have a warhead that explodes upon contact, and that's the main reason why a lot of Iraqi scud missile debris were found all over Saudi Arabian cities and Israeli cities, a lot of times warheads are still intact, during the dessert storm war. Patriot is no different from the other US Ballistic missile defense system THAAD, also a hit to kill defense system interceptor mainly used for Ballistic missile defense. People needs to realize that even a defense system armed with a warhead, like the Germany's IRIS -T, US NASAMS, and the famous Stinger manpads. you will find debris all over the place like in Ukraine after a successful interception.The subject that is being intercepted is many times bigger than the actual interceptor, the idea is to immobilize and get it down when you have an opportunity.

[@zipz8423]

@@nihluxler1890the Saudis had more problems with their operators than they had with the system.

[@WasabiSniffer]

Thanks for sorting through the news, research and info. Hard to tell what’s real or bogus these days

[@ChadwickTheChad]

It's not hard at all. If it's russian, it'll be disinformation.

[@choctaw2sticks193]

you told us this not to long ago but, this time you laid it out a lot better, thanks for that. I for one appreciate the work that you do for us. keep it up. thanks again. " videos are great "

[@Andy_Novosad]

Your pronunсiation of ukrainian last names was almost there, except for lt. general Oleshchuk, whose surname should sound more like [oleshchook] so don't bother yourself with so much apologies next time, you did a great job, as always. Greetings from your Ukrainian subscriber.

[@bondisteve3617]

Well done. Thanks.

[@warrentrout]

Great info

[@michaelinsc9724]

Fantastic analysis, as always!

[@heathwirt8919]

Great report Alex, thanks.

[@DEWinitnow]

Thanks!

[@jasonryan1349]

Love your in-depth work and investigations,keep up the great work

[@mikeyoung00]

Great summary, Alex. Way to cut through the fog of reporting.

[@thomassecurename3152]

Thanks Alex. A lot of good info in this vid. And thanks for the shoot down affirmation. Tom.

[@SL-jo4om]

I knew Russians had a Potemkin air force. Now I'm thrilled to learn they also have a Scooby Doo ballistic missile.

[@antman2826]

A refreshingly informative and non click bait video. I actually learnt a lot from this. Definitely earned my sub. Looking forward to more such content. Thumbs up from Australia 🇦🇺 🦘👍

[@moonasha]

did you see that MALD decoy drone remains were just found in Ukraine? Very interested to hear your take on that. I'm wondering if they have explosive payloads, as a cheap cruise missile option

[@MaxIsStrange1]

To the best of my knowledge - no. I’m pretty sure they don’t even have any targeting systems because… why would they? Edit: So, I’ve read up on the development of the ADM-160 MALD and there WAS an experimental version called MALD-V which introduced a modular payload so that the MALD-V could take on board surveillance gear, jammers, etc. So, even though it really wasn’t the idea behind the -V experiment, it could have been technically possible to produce a payload module with a warhead and turn the MALD into a cruise missile, just like the original commenter suggested. Mea culpa.

[@arbelico2]

Interesting question . I do not know the system that replaced the TACIT RAINBOW..

[@Walterwaltraud]

But what's even better, if the MALDs clean out the path for Storm Shadow, bye bye Kerch bridge (and hopefully all ships and remaining fuel tanks in Sevastopol plus a bunch of S400 search radars).

[@williamzk9083]

Supposedly MALD was cancelled after only 150 were made. I'd say they improved it and made more or developed a better version as a dark program. MALD has one job: look like a F-117, F-22, F-35, B-52 or B1 or F-15 etc to seduce enemy resources away.

[@MaxIsStrange1]

@@williamzk9083 The ADM-160 MALD is alive and well. It’s still being developed, produced, etc. The only thing resembling being “cancelled” is that shortly after the improved version, ADM-160C MALD-J (which is indeed really impressive), started being delivered in 2012, the older version (ADM-160B) stopped being ordered in favor of the new variant.

[@sanka2000]

I thought that the Netherlands also provided an Patriot system. Keep up the good work! Nice video

[@recoil53]

At the moment it's only one from the US and one from the Germans.

[@nietkees6906]

No, our prime minister said we would do that but later backed down. In the end we only provided two launchers that were added to the German system.

[@geoff4383]

@@nietkees6906 two additional launchers helps.

[@nietkees6906]

@@geoff4383 Not much. People often count the amount of SAMs by the amount of launchers, but the amount of radars is far more inportant.

[@NickSteffen]

I mean it all helps, the launchers are 10 million a pop with missiles that cost 4 million. I’d be surprised if the launchers didn’t cost more. It’s a huge expense. The radars also have a range over 100 km. Where as the pac 3s range is around 50km meaning you need multiple launchers to service one radar. I’d be surprised if the logistical bottleneck isn’t the launchers and the missiles.

[@Hmonks]

They just intercepted 6 more 😂😂😂😂

[@truvc]

Habitual Linecrosser - haha. I love that name and reference to the Charlie Murphy interview about Rick James.

[@yyyy-uv3po]

You know something is true when Russia denies it.

[@AbuBawa-sw1ut]

You meant the west

[@kekkoinen]

​@@AbuBawa-sw1ut what is the west denying now?

[@WmPryor1]

I feel the same way about Biden along with his crack military team of Austin & Milley. I can't wait to I see the results of the three stooges with their misadventure in Ukraine, especially after the Afghanistan Withdrawal.

[@John-mf6ky]

​@@AbuBawa-sw1ut did you get a new lada for posting this? Maybe a new dacha? Hopefully it has a working toilet..

[@AbuBawa-sw1ut]

@@John-mf6ky i don't even have a car but in the next 2-3 months I will be able to buy any car that I want

[@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND]

"Kinzhal" is the Walmart "hypersonic" missile. Excellent content. Slava Ukraini!

[@chrisp2249]

USA doesnt have a functional hypersonic. Its last test failed. you know absolutely nothing about hypersonic missiles. Its already destroyed multiple high value targets in ukraine with footage.

[@howiescott5865]

Really? Wal-Mart? I better hurry down for the grandkids. I got a gopher problem. Think it'll help? 💙💛Glory to Ukraine

[@sovietrussia3874]

Khuiova vukraini Geroyam khuiova

[@ishotuknok]

Your country is absolutely screwed for the next decades. No EU or Nato membership any time soon Millions of skilled workers left the country and will not come back to work for the terribly low wages you got Destroyed infrastructure Billions in debt for that stupid war Is there really any reason to praise this country and encourage this war to proceed? You failed so damn hard at softer politics to establish a position between two powers and will pay the price.

[@AddisonHaines-ts5iv]

​@@sovietrussia3874 the hell is this? Doesn't even make sense

[@CompetentSalesUSA]

Hypersonic is simply Faster than the speed of sound 🎉.

[@dustynias]

great video

[@jaws666]

Like everything else out of russia its all sizzle and no steak....just look at the Mig-25 "super fighter" that turned out to be anything but

[@maitele]

Eh. The whole narrative around the MiG-25 was less about the Soviets lying about its purpose and more about the American media woozling it up and the Soviets choosing not to debunk them. Not doing so was a mistake, though, since the *imaginary* MiG-25 became the target for the *real* F-15. Of course, the MiG-25 was meant to chase a ghost of its own, since it was built to intercept B-70s.

[@jaws666]

​@@maiteleim well aware of all of that...my piont was russia never told the trurh and decided to let the west belive what they thought was reality and russia stupidly belived the west would never learn the truth that it was no fighter,let alone a "super fighter"....to put it into perspective during the Iran/ Iraq war (1980 to 1988) there is at least one account of an Iranian F-5E shooting down an Iraqi Mig-25

[@heathwirt8919]

@@jaws666 Russia's been doing this since WW2 and has it down to a science.

[@jaws666]

​@@heathwirt8919or so they think

[@lochnessspeedwerkz6557]

​@@heathwirt8919 Maybe instead of dumping money into psyops disrupting other countries they should have been using it to actually develop their "super weapons" 🤷

[@Daytona60146]

Excellent video, excellent reporting, love this channel. Love technical breakdowns.

[@noname-wo9yy]

So the actual warhead of the kinzal and the ground launched version is basically their 500kg bunker buster bomb.

[@TheDaveRout]

Excellent and clear analysis, many thanks

[@militantcapitalist4606]

Apparently the ruzzy tried to hit a Patriot site near Kyiv; guess now they know it can stop those ballistic missiles, as specified.

[@danstotland6386]

Let us never forget that Russia invented the concept of the Potemkin village. It fooled Catherine (2), the Great and modern Russia has perfected the subterfuge. So much so, that most of us were taken in, yet again. Your scholarship, knowledge, and analysis are outstanding. Thank you!

[@Expedient_Mensch]

Counter subterfuge. Oh, how great your missiles are! But secretly, is this all they got? You know, like when your girlfriend tells you how well-endowed you are...

[@buddyrojek9417]

Moscow is a giant Pontemkin village. 99 percent of Russia is a broken mess

[@Skinflaps_Meatslapper]

@@buddyrojek9417 Freshly painted rust

[@johntaylor-lo8qx]

Not many people can have an open mind to say they may be wrong. Respect to you my friend. We may never know what that missile was. But the integrity of this channel stands. Gr8 show 👍

[@d.l.gentsch5304]

Good analysis.

[@adamfree9903]

Alex great segment and thank you for your intelligent and well told work. Love hearing about advanced aerial projects and OF COURSE U A Ps .

[@dougcoombes8497]

Another well researched, clearly presented piece. As for the Patriot system, not only is the PAC-3 much better at intercepting cruise and ballistic missiles than the PAC-1 and PAC-2, but you can fit four of them in each box and 16 per launch vehicle. So that's up to 96 missiles in a six launcher battery. That can engage 9 targets at once with an over 90% hit rate. As for what to cover next, it would be nice to get some hard facts on what kind of fighters are available to send to Ukraine and what numbers are available. The suggestions I've seen in the last few months are F-16, F/A-18, Rafale, Mirage 2000, Eurofighter Typhoon and JAS 39 Gripen. Ukraine is clearly going to need fighters for air defense and ground support in the near future and we need to be planning on that.

[@MaxIsStrange1]

True but the number of PAC-3 missiles in a single launcher depends on which version we’re talking about - the older PAC-3 (now called PAC-3 CRI) does pack 16 missiles per launcher, but the newer and more capable PAC-3 MSE fits 12 per launcher (the weird thing is that the “MSE”, despite sharing the PAC-3 name, is in reality a 100% new missile designed completely from scratch)

[@TonymanCS]

That's literally ground SPAMRAAM

[@MikeOxlong-]

Remember that a battery can have up to 16 launchers. 6 was only ever considered/conceived during the very early stages of development and prototyping…

[@dougcoombes8497]

@@MikeOxlong- Right. I think the batteries Ukraine got have eight launchers. Also the radars and command trucks can be placed miles away from the launchers making taking out a Patriot battery a difficult challenge.

[@pavelsulc2617]

unfortunately, it is clear that sufficient numbers for such a large country as Ukraine are available in a reasonable time frame only by American machines, i.e. F-16 and F-18. Considering the price and numbers produced, I'd bet on the F-16. In addition, if I take into account the concerns about sharing the most modern electronics, I again assume in layman's terms that older versions could be available for the F-16 where this would not be a major problem.

[@Rhaspun]

Putin thought his super weapons would be as unstoppable as the F-117 was during the first Iraq war.

[@TheLocalChurchExperience]

I am happy the Kinzhal is not what they said it was.😂

[@alexm25187]

Kinzhal is Dagger in Russian, hence google translated it to "we intercepted an enemy Dagger" He was actually saying "we intercepted an enemy Kinzhal"

[@Mortablunt]

Intercepted right in the face blade first kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5jOnXtmbpqib9U

[@TRPilot06YT]

Sorry, we didnt know it was invincible.

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

Based Rhodesia

[@Reach41]

It's not necessary to chase a hypersonic missile to shoot it down, just have to plot where it's going to be in 10 or 15 seconds and plan to meet it there.

[@orcahang21]

FANTASTIC 💪👍 God 💪 Bless 👊 Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@kekkoinen]

​@W B Can you back anything of that up? Sure parts of Ukraine are flattened, but quite a bit has been rebuilt. While Ukraine has taken losses, I'd like to see a source for an entire generation being gone, or Ukraine having any significant amount of "NATO mercs" since we've seen none of that. You say that your heart goes to both sides yet you use Russian propaganda and their talking points

[@Zatanley]

Well done. Good patriotic team.

[@remielpollard787]

You'd think they'd learn their lesson the first time with the Foxbat. But nope.

[@n3v3rforgott3n9]

they would need more then 2 IQ to learn from their past mistakes just look at the comments and how many people don't understand what intercept means... saying shit like you cant shoot it down if your missiles goes mach 4 and ours goes mach 10.....

[@inkmore9395]

Instantly subscribed

[@michaelkaylor6770]

I heard that even if you identify as a hyper-sonic missile you really are just a 1970’s Ballistic Missile.

[@iwalkedintoabar]

The Missiles are really just "Fluid" 😂 . I'm not going to change my pronouns for them though.... You can't be ballistic one day and hypersonic the next.. Missiles have feelings too.

[@RC-fp1tl]

The Russian cope is amazing.

[@mindblowtimes]

It seems kinzhal actually damaged patriot system😅

[@jubabadintwe954]

What a clarification well done.

[@citizenblue]

Man, I love this channel. As someone who prefers long form content, these 20+ minute uploads make my day!

[@Yolbosun]

Nato is hitlers wet dream Ukraine didn’t do chit

[@Enkarashaddam]

The performance of the khinzal is probably SUPER overrated. I wouldn't be surprised if the propulsion systems weren't so roughshod only 10% of the missiles are actually capable of hypersonic flight.

[@beesod6412]

Yeah I'd love to know what the failure rate is. You know it's gonna be crazy high.

[@shahbkb]

Yes they claimd F117 is stealth , yet , being down by russian missile , , they talk and just talk ,

[@vincentrm9751]

Hi MR Hollings. And Hi Sandboxx Team and comunity. Could you make a Video about the Satan 2 Misile that is realy Hyped in rusia too.

[@jjhead431]

Remember, we launch ballistic missiles out of C-17 s all the time. Used for test purposes.

[@ravener96]

Pretty sure i need a source for that

[@quox3987]

@@ravener96 Not quite the same but there’s the term air launched ballistic missile on Wikipedia that details many of America’s early designs that where similar. The truth is we could make them as far back as the 1950s with the High Virgo. In the end though we canceled the project around the 1970s from concerns that every time a plane launches one of those missiles there would be a chance someone thinks it’s nuclear-tipped and triggers M.A.D.

[@BR-jx1zd]

As always, excellent content Sir! And a fun fact to go with it, your pronunciation of the Ukrainian names is actually pretty decent. You did not "butcher" any of them, which for a native English speaker (whom, I presume, you are) is a very decent effort.

[@KilledInUkraine]

Russians be like: Cyka Blyat!!!🤬

[@Bear049]

Thanks you’re great

[@mpcaz]

YOU ARE SO WRONG ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PATRIOT BATTERIES! I was in Riyadh Saudi Arabia during Desert Storm assigned to the 1700th AREFS at Riyadh Airport with 10 KC-135Q models refueling the F-117. Almost every night we had SCUDS launched at us and we heard the Patriots fire and saw the SCUDS destroyed. I have first hand experience with their success. If the Patriots weren't there, I might not be here! Your reporting is almost always right over the target but in this instance, I had to provide some counter information.

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

Oh apparently equipment can't be upgraded.

[@mpcaz]

@@Just_A_Random_Desk He specifically stated that the Patriots weren't that good in Desert Storm. Perhaps reread what I wrote! I never addressed the Version 2 or Version 3 Patriots.

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

​@@mpcaz my bad, my bad

[@onedeadpixel12]

His number comes from a US Department of Defense report about the Patriot's performance during the Gulf War and led to major improvements to the Patriot. The Patriot did intercept SCUD missiles but it still had a poor intercept rate.

[@mpcaz]

@@onedeadpixel12 Not where I was being subjected to SCUD attacks! Maybe our Patriot batteries had better equipment since we were at the capital. We were constantly having to do FOD walks to pick up pieces of missiles from the taxiways. Also consider that if all Patriots were as successful as the ones that I witnessed first hand, the Pentagon wouldn't be able to go begging for money for updated systems. Military Industrial complex bullshit.

[@snapdragon6601]

It didn't help that right after it happened a Ukrainian official denied that a hypersonic missile was shot down, only to admit the next day that a hypersonic missile was indeed shot down. I took that likely to be due to him not having authorization from his superiors to release that information when he made the first statement. Of course Russia and their supporters have latched on to that as "proof" that it wasn't shot down. There is a more recent video of the wreckage/parts being examined by experts and journalists in Kiev showing that the numbers on the parts do match up to the Kinzhal missile but the RuZZian supporters online still claim it didn't happen..

[@rainnelmaclang4803]

Anything travelling at 12,348 kilometers per hour will not survive the impact . It will be pulverized when it hits the ground. What "wreckage" are you talking about?

[@andrzejszu2005]

I like the "Scooby-Doo" point-analogy a lot. :)

[@DallasCowboyFan95]

Inb4 the Russian bots arrive

[@flioink]

That was my thought process about the photos too. On the intact "Khinjal" missile you can clearly see the text "бандаж" in the forward section which translates roughly to "filler/protector/cover" so my guess was that it's some type of cover that gets discarded at some point.

[@johnclayton7471]

Nice explanation on the video of the Kinzhal 'nose cone'

[@blutexas]

well done

[@antonzanki8398]

I am particularly linterested in seeing a video version of your essay I read on potential strategies for using the ADM 160 MALD (Miniature Air Launched Decoy) variants in Ukraine. I believe it could be (another) game changer, and it would certainly be interesting to bring more into the spotlight. The piece you did on it back in your Wild Weasel video was way to short, practically off topic of the video itself (though not totally) and buried right before the end. I’d love to see more, especially how it might blend with various missiles like the newly acquired Thunder Shadows.

[@bobbyshaftoe]

Haha... Putin *meant* to say HyperBOLIC...

[@mawejjesalimsaleh1216]

And now😅😅😅

[@kriskhinson443]

Hallelujah!!! ❤😂❤ 🙏 Amen 🙏