Ulster (1970)

This newsreel film examines the causes of strife in Northern Ireland, focusing on the Catholic - Protestant conflict. - DVD Copied by IASL Scanner John Williams. - ARC 1633583 / LI 263.1034
National Archives - Ulster - National Security Council. Central Intelligence Agency. (09/18/1947 - 12/04/1981).

[@loyalloyal4442]

Yeah and SFIRA sat with big Ian, for money, not Ireland

[@burntlancaster2779]

Another exercise in deflection, this was englands training ground remember, all events unfolded precisely as they were intended. Church heirarcy totally complicit, on both sides for centuries.

[@friotaiocht101]

Ian Paisley.... one of the biggest if not the biggest & most paranoid wicked instigators of the entire Troubles...

[@dsd7004]

Illegal flag of Eire" Was it illegal to show the Irish flag in NI?

[@dsd7004]

@@allureofthelens8858 Thanks for the reply. That had something to do with Paisley, I think. So it was actually illegal to publicly show the Irish flag? Like an actual law ?

[@jwrobin21]

Yes, it was.

[@snogglemonkey]

It was UNWISE.

[@gutworm686]

Fly a Union Jack in Dublin and see what happens. Even today.

[@dsd7004]

@@gutworm686 But is it illegal, is the question?

[@johnhiggins779]

Silly to hear the commentator talk of "religious bigotry" when here and now in 2021 no Catholic can be British prime minister or head of the British state. Britain has never had a Catholic prime minister, Tony Blair had to leave office before converting and the present PM was born Catholic but changed to Anglican otherwise he would not have got the PM job.

[@gutworm686]

Can the Pope be a Muslim or a Hindu or a Protestant? No? Religious discrimination.

[@tomellis4324]

@@gutworm686 The Pope is a religious leader not a political one. John Higgins's point is well made. Britain though it portrays itself differently is quite active in religious discriminatory practices

[@jasonallen9144]

You have no idea of the trouble England has had with religion over the past 500 years. We have been through this Protestant/Catholic bitterness ourselves and it caused civil wars that took generations to heal. As a Catholic PM you cannot advise an Anglican Queen on which Archbishops to appoint etc. Will still remember the 5th of November.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

@@jasonallen9144 still sectarian by design

[@jasonallen9144]

@@Sean-sn9ld yeah but for a reason and nothing to do with Ireland. And I doubt it would be upheld if there was to be a Catholic PM or Jewish or whatever. It's a relic from the past

[@jonathanmcroberts8549]

Which agency created this report?

[@gastonbell108]

1970: "It remains to be seen whether all the reforms will be adequately implemented, and if the Catholic minority will be satisfied." Aged like milk.

[@conorfields506]

The troops sent to restore order fought a dirty war against those marchers, check the bloody sunday footage and tell me thats not a war operation

[@stephenowens354]

No reforms will be adequate for the NOW catholic majority only unification which isnt that many years away

[@MichaelMinecraft190]

Our revenge will be the laughter of our children

[@RUDI-UK]

How old is Bobby Sands' son now? LOL

[@georgeskillen5422]

Pity you were not all bobby sands less spongers for us taxpayers to fund

[@paulflah4562]

Change the record ffs

[@WHU63]

What revenge is/will that be then? There are no troops here anymore and the border is basically in the Irish sea. We need peace, not revenge.

[@gutworm686]

Do you want a chicken supper Bobby Sands?

[@lloydmcguire4439]

Sad but true..... Thank god the troubles are over 😔🙏

[@chriskelly4894]

They weren’t ‘troubles’ despite what the politicians and press might want to call them…they weren’t there. It was war!

[@vaughanaBowtonladupthewhites]

Saddest of all in “religious” wars is the majority that suffer are not religious themselves.

[@boldertash]

British subjects celebrate a Dutch man who ruled them.

[@robertthomson4013]

Or a pole , a German or whatever ruling over the catholic masses from the Vatican in Rome , laughable and pathetic ,

[@andyniblock43]

Paisley was not part of the problem, he was the problem.

[@andyniblock43]

@Fíonán Murphy You are much too forgiving.

[@meansteve3602]

Dont confuse a symptom for a cause.

[@roberthalbert748]

No he wasn't.

[@tomellis4324]

@@roberthalbert748 ohhhhhhh yes he wasssssssss. I know the wee six is a pantomime but cmon now 😁

[@Alex-gn2rb]

Yes , looking outside in it seems bizarre even in 1970 that a religious zealot could whip up such emotions to the point of violence and even murder of their own neighbours. The seeds were sown for decades before with sectarianism & bigotry, similar with failed states like Yugoslavia or Rwanda.

[@robertlepper5460]

A reporter who doesn't 'get it'. The army as 'inpartial'. SMH

[@conorfields506]

A british made clip will never tell the truth Within 2 years these civil rights marchers had troops snipers and internment unleashed on them

[@triestodrum2215]

B specials - Bring them back. Heroes!

[@gerardb9501]

Sectarian thugs

[@johnsometimeswrong8742]

Bring them back??? For what...are you 80 year old bigot...😮

[@williamkelly9859]

52 years later and still orange poison.

[@chriskelly4894]

…and attitudes like yours keeps the hatred alive.

[@lennydixie]

William a lot has changed from 1970. Who would have thought, after listening to Paisley, that Martin McGuiness and Paisley would be be the joint leaders of the Assembly. So, with all due respect, there has been a major shift with the two opposite extreme parties ie. The DUP & SF.

[@colmocinnseala88]

The commentator has a very shallow understanding of the situation

[@seancurran6590]

It wasnt a religious war. It was a war between the dispossessed indigenous (Gael) and the those who dispossessed them (planter). Not one in 100 could explain the others religion.

[@colincraig3243]

The gaels were not indigenous. They arrived between 600bce and 200ce and eliminated the original inhabitants. We are planters all.

[@seancurran6590]

@@colincraig3243 Agreed...in fact we are all African

[@johnhiggins779]

"The Irish Republic" ? sorry to tell you it's The Republic of Ireland. The Irish Republic consists of 32 counties.

[@footballspecialmineral6139]

IT IS THE IRISH REPUBLIC AND YES IT HAS 32 COUNTIES

[@gutworm686]

Idiot. Last time I looked the Queen was on my coins and the Garda weren’t patrolling the streets. Funny that.

[@MichaelMinecraft190]

@@gutworm686 last time I looked there was a border in the Irish sea.... Now lube up & bend over your Brit government is going to give you a right royal rogering....😂😂😂

[@tomellis4324]

@@MichaelMinecraft190 😁😁😁 and the thing is Mike the bastards would enjoy it too..... " they like it up mmmm sir " 😁😄😉

[@annaconway313]

@@gutworm686 wait until Charlies on your coins🤣 be proud then? Idiot

[@xSUBIACOx]

"INDOCTRINATED INTO FAITH." ~ SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

[@joedredd13215]

United with Britain not just England. Oh that annoys me.

[@stephensimpson1613]

You have to wonder at the casual ignorance.

[@xXxWARvetxXx]

The Act of Union only occured in 1707 creating the Kingdom of Great Britain so in fact you are showing your ignorance as he was in fact king of England, he was also king of Scotland and Ireland but that is besides the point, there was no Kingdom of Great Britain while he was alive

[@stephensimpson1613]

@@xXxWARvetxXx Yes, you're right, but the report does mention, for example, "the Union Jack, symbol of Northern Ireland's union with England..."

[@MWR62]

HierarchyM Which Scotland is likely to break from. Not a given of course not. 9 Polls in a row show support for independence with the latest at 64 Yes 36 No. The 1707 Act of Union gives both Scotland & England to right to walk away. It os NOT in Westminster’s remit to say no. May I suggest that London learns from The Troubles. Tread lightly lest history repeats itself for all our sakes.

[@annaconway313]

@duncan stirling We are 1st class Irish. You, darling , are a PLANTER, 3rd class Irishman, no educating some ...

[@Master_of_Critique]

It wasn’t a religious conflict though. It was an ethnic conflict

[@C17NRYL3D]

Did I just see police throwing stones back at civilians???

[@jackpirie7382]

Yes plenty of the RUC and B men were throwing at the rioters

[@footballspecialmineral6139]

They usually.and regularly shot catholics a Catholic teenager in Belfast in the 70s or 80 was 25.times more likely to be shot by police and British army than the teenage protestan living in a street less than quarter of a mile away

[@gutworm686]

Did I just see civilians throwing stones at the police?

[@tomellis4324]

@@gutworm686 No that is you cataracts 😁

[@annaconway313]

@@gutworm686 try to be original, 😭

[@TheLiam1951]

a dutch man

[@snogglemonkey]

Lived through all this and Northern Ireland was like S. Africa with the Catholics being the 'blacks'

[@gutworm686]

Where did you live? Fantasy Island? How dare you make out Catholics were as badly treated as blacks in South Africa. What an insult to those poor people. They had nothing.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

Such an anti-Irish bias to this video, like another commenter has said, this video has aged like milk

[@nikkonichols]

For god and ULSTER 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧💪💪

[@johnsometimeswrong8742]

What a load of old shite....grow up.

[@CathalOGradaigh]

What you represent is a minority in the ancient, 9-counties province of Ulster and thank god for that.

[@DanielCassidy-ox8yf]

Ian Paisley manipulated ignorant bigots to further his career. He should never be forgiven.!!!

[@robertthomson4013]

Imagine the loyalist community not trusting the nationalist community , the very same nationalists who see the republic as there spiritual home , a nation who actively aided hitlers national socialist party in ww2 , the irish leader de Valera even sending his nations condolences to the German high command on hitlers death , the vast majority of protestants were forced to flee the catholic republic due to religious intolerance, and hatred , ??????? 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇯🇪

[@johnsometimeswrong8742]

The only thing you said that was factual was that De Valers did send condolences to the German consulate as a matter of protocol for a neutral county. As our P.M.would do for Russia if Putin died tomorrow. There were not mass expulsions of protestants from the republic after 1923 there were incidents of score settling or intimidation which undoubtedly did occour but was it widespread no,I grew up with dozens of Church of Ireland neighbours a great many prosperous land owners in the south there are even estates here still owned by members of the English aristocracy. It is inncorrect to say that the republic aided Germany in WW2. In fact the opposite is true German airmen and sailors who were downed in Irish territory were interend until wars end where as British personel were usually repatriated quickly...also Ireland officially allowed allied planes to overfly our Airspace and dotted the west coast with markers to aid navigation. The tiny post treaty I.R.A. did try to collude with Germany for arms and support representing a couple of hundred men as oppossed to the 50,000 men from the republic who volenteered to fight for the allies most with Britain. The two communities on this Island have far more in common than divides us.

[@CathalOGradaigh]

@@johnsometimeswrong8742well said. Always good to read facts as opposed to centuries-old, british-establishment propaganda

[@girvangreen2]

No Surrender

[@nick-her9275]

@duncan stirling 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@gutworm686]

@duncan stirling like all the bigoted Republicans commenting on here you mean? That’s a good Presbyterian Scots name you have there Dunc.

[@tomellis4324]

@@gutworm686 only a hill billy would print that comment and be so colloquial on that issue.

[@michaelmccreery8192]

Like that hypocrite paisley you have surrendered just not educated enough to see it no reply please unless you can’t help yourself this is how you control the uneducated

[@riff2072]

January 30, 1972.

[@popishplot999]

To see the B Specials controlling a republican mob, does the heart good! It makes me want to sing 'The Sash!' Remember 1690! Boyne Defenders, We salute you true sons of Ulster!

[@michaelmccreery8192]

Sad tragic pathetic look in the mirror no reply please unless you can’t help yourself that’s how easy it is to control the uneducated

[@danbreen6946]

What A Tosser

[@williamcreighton1417]

Oh dear. Living always in the past are we?

[@paulflah4562]

Go sing it lad in front of a mirror so you can feel " cool " and practice pulling your faces of anger and determination. We will all be impressed just at the idea of it.....honest 😅😅

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

Yeah paisley hid behind the collar big gas bag wi a mic at the back of his throat start a fight in an empty hoose only saw him when his Mrs kicked oot cause she was making Sunday dinner big windbag who got nowhere all he did was shout nonsense

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[@sararyan1255]

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[@nick-her9275]

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[@sararyan1255]

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[@sararyan1255]

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[@WHU63]

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[@seanmullahy9281]

5:31 5:31

[@jmcci2069]

Bring Back the B.Men.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@tomellis4324]

Better chance the X men will arrive. Both sure both of them were mutants i guess 😁

[@andrewhayes9913]

I'll have a pint with ya when it's 32

[@RobertK1993]

@@tomellis4324 X Men waste the B specials and Ulster Loyalists

[@gutworm686]

The B Specials we’re not Protestant to a man. Total nonsense.

[@MichaelMinecraft190]

Yes they were.... & The RUC were98% protestant in the 70's to the 90's.... Sin é.

[@jimmymcgeown1834]

are you sure about that?

[@tomellis4324]

To a woman 🤔🤔 😁😁😁

[@eamonndonald6259]

Yes they were, and given a license to kill and torture anybody they seen fit.

[@patrickohanlon3537]

🇮🇪

[@gutworm686]

🇬🇧

[@machida58]

@@gutworm686 🇧🇧

[@tomellis4324]

@@machida58 he'll soon be dead anyway 😁

[@machida58]

@@tomellis4324 Who?

[@RobertK1993]

@@gutworm686 Losers flag United Kingdom finished

[@sararyan1255]

🇮🇪Derry 🇮🇪

[@georgeskillen5422]

Londonderry which day do you sign on

[@nick-her9275]

Londonderry

[@sararyan1255]

Derry 🇮🇪👍💕

[@gutworm686]

@@sararyan1255 call it whatever you want. You’re still wrong.

[@tomellis4324]

@@gutworm686 Never, never, never 😄😁, Ulsterman from Harry Enfield you are

[@geovanniali6060]

Ta ar la tagtha

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[@geoffwhite7535]

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