Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts - 21 Gun Battlecruiser!

[@JafuetTheSame]

- weight offset affects your accuracy - with current technology tripple turrets are less accurate than the double ones...but i guess "the more the better" was the point anyway - set range always to minimum. you obviously do not need that in single mission - if you drop just 6% percent of your cost you could have 42 guns (2 ships)

[@jordananderson2728]

>Four guns in the ass >Fore weight offset Game was drunk anyway, but thanks for the tips for when I get a copy!

[@DrKunze]

@@jordananderson2728 The speed and range slider increase the engine weight. The forward funnel is moving that weight towards the bow.

[@tar5us452]

And slow down once in range as going FLANK speed effects accuracy. Better accuracy on less guns is better than shit accuracy on many. But slowing down helps a lot once in range.

[@jamesricker3997]

Dropping the max speed by 1 or 2 knots probably would have allowed 2 ships

[@Petq011]

@@jordananderson2728 The Tower was on the front... It's not light...

[@WyvernApalis]

WG: O boi, we just found new serkit dokuments of planned Russian battleship.

[@miskapiska2188]

Da comrade cyka blyat

[@hanselsihotang]

*French Sekrit Dokument for tier 5 BC. with 21 low-caliber 305mm gun. Hey actually that sounds good. She will be a nightmare to DDs and CAs up to tier 7

[@devflite8782]

@Black Wolf No worry comrade, French is our long lost Socialist comrade. They hate capitalism too, so no problem :3

[@Bauhotte]

xD

[@ScreamingElectron]

Russian bias amirite?

[@hawkeye2816]

"I want the best shaft possible." --iChase, 2019

[@williamhayes2479]

Don't we all

[@usswestvirginiabb-48]

@@williamhayes2479 Yes

[@luftwaffle4327]

*does not add secondary guns due to it being battleships* *ADDS TORPEDO PROTECTION*

[@sovietunion5700]

Your Kaiser needs you at the front General

[@luftwaffle4327]

KaiserWilhelmII on my way

[@sovietunion5700]

@@luftwaffle4327 good luck General

[@tsuaririndoku]

Enemy Battleship: I am Zuikaku CV Zuikaku: Eh? NaNi!? Shokaku: wait Zui you are the battleship?

[@DatAlien]

*Angry Kaga noises*

[@merafirewing6591]

*Prudish Akagi noises*

[@airplanemaster1]

Another thing! For the naval academy missions, *always* set the Range bar to its minimum, cuz it's basically useless for the scenarios, and it'll give you spare weight and cash to play with in design mode!

[@RPCIB]

Weird thing is the fuel stowage modifiers are currently a little borked. When I choose oil fuel (-75% fuel stowage i think) and Diesel 1 or Diesel 2 engines (-20% and -35% fuel stowage) the total fuel tonnage drops so low it actually disappears and setting range to Very long or Very Short has no effect. Apparently what ExxonMobil doesn't want you to know is that Diesel is so efficient it runs on air alone.

[@doktork3406]

@@RPCIB XDDDD

[@Petq011]

@airplanemaster1 Also, don't forget to whine about how your sheap has a lot of weight, armor and guns and still can go fast. After you reduced the range to minimum so it can basically, "almost leave the port" ... ;P :D

[@prinzalbatross9526]

For this scenario, your DDs start off attached to your ship, so you have to select them and order them to separate in order for them to do some proper screening/reconnaissance.

[@asherkosmos4312]

That last salvo near the end of this video is every naval commander's wet dream of citadel hits

[@Ushio01]

So HMS Agincourt with triples instead of twins. It's amusing that this games maximum seems to correlate with real life ships.

[@overboss9599]

"Every time the ship fired it's guns it looked like it was exploding" - drachinifel

[@weedsmith8467]

Now, this is a proper successor to Warship Gunner.

[@apertureemployee215]

seems like the builder is a bit less flexible. Also, y'know, no 80 cm guns, lasers, or particle cannons :(

[@TheRibbonRed]

It's the historical, spiritual successor.

[@faizalakhsan7690]

agreed.

[@Tepid24]

"Ships are very hard to sink" "Only use HE because it works better" I spy with my little eye, causation.

[@redtitan75]

This is definitely a game that interest me and i would most likely do the same as you, in essence, try to build the craziest ships i can and watch it go into town against other ships as well as try to do most insane experiments i can. Thinking about it, if it wasn't for the naval arm treaties post ww1, there is no telling what kind of crazy battleships some countries might have built.

[@willmorrell488]

The Iowa class of Battleships could make up to 35 knots weighing nearly 50,000 tons as well as being heavily armoured. USS New Jersey reached a sustained 35.2 knots for SIX hours in 1968 during testing a Guinness World Record held to this day.

[@InternetEntity]

iChase, at least in my game client, there is a different cap for centerline and side mounted guns. You should be able to do 6 center and two indervidual side mounts in the middle like a Kaiser-class.

[@TheSaberra]

I wonder If Chase could have mounted off set turrets, just like in Kaiser, so he could have fit 2 turrets in the middle

[@Deilwynna]

i was able to do it so yea, it is possible though i dont see a point to it unless you are going for a broadside battle because they cant fire when the gun barrels are over the other sides turret

[@TheSaberra]

@@Deilwynna the point of this video was, bringing as much firepower as possible

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

but firepower you can't use isn't firepower worth bringing :P

[@MaciejNaumienko]

cool series. An occasional zoom in on the battleship would be nice to see all that firepower in action up close

[@cochacopen]

It is supremely satisfying when you delete a full health BB on your first full salvo. I've had it happen twice.

[@TheFreaker86]

interesting game! Designing your own ships and sail into battle is intriguing! please more of this!

[@arczer2519]

Honestly problem with armor penetration is fact that there's armor upgrades (+100% at max), but no real shell upgrades negating that (moder WW2 rounds practicaly resisted Face hardened armor) light, normal, heavy and super heavy are sort of trade-offs. still super heavy shells don't exacly make sense, there were no super heavy HE rounds just High Capacity (thinner walls more HE), while AP didn't had more filler, but larger AP cap (~2x the weight of normal round) Specific AP shell types are needed to combat better and better armor types like: standard most basic barebone AP for start, hardened AP, with soft AP cap, with hard AP cap, along with varriants that have ballistic cap) affecting penetration, ballistic and reducing armor modifer. maybe along with new RHA armor types, like most basic Structural steel, High tensile steel, STS/Wotan and B class, with would cheapier, silghty lighter, but taking less penalty form more modern rounds as they rely on their own strenght rather than shattering projectile, but less resistant overall.

[@tommeakin1732]

If I'm going to buy this game it's going to have to have crazy detail on most areas of a ship. I desperately want them to have a system where you can finely tune your guns and shells. I don't think it'd be a massive problem for them to add a system like that either. I really want this game to be easy to pick up and play for most people, but have crazy levels of detail for the absolute nerds out there

[@NijiharaKaito0]

@@tommeakin1732 I'm hoping for the same. I tried playing another ship designer game (from the depths) but it was too much from the get go. If I can start off simple and then go more complex as I progress, I'll definitely play the game for longer. (from the depths was just way too hard and had a terrible tutorial so I couldn't even learn how to play)

[@tommeakin1732]

@@NijiharaKaito0 Haha that's really funny to me as I can entirely relate! Except I did actually get into it, and got pretty okay at it - it's just a *massive* time sink. Like you have to basically do everything when it comes to building the ship, there's no real way around it. FTD is basically too extreme to be practically played by most people. I got the point where I was basically just building stuff and not actually playing with them, or not even finishing the things I started. Extreme detail is great, it just needs to be well implemented or you're going to alienate the vast majority of people

[@jordananderson2728]

@@NijiharaKaito0 FTD has one of the steepest learning curves I've ever experienced. Just plug away at it and make sure your beam is about 1/10 your length and you'll be on a good start!

[@halogaming2833]

Builds a battlecruiser with 21 305s Bismarck: Laughs menacingly

[@michigancube4240]

That funnel placement triggered me, y'know if you have the right front tower you can mount the funnel inside the tower's rear? Also you can rotate funnels with certain keys to make them take less space if you cant mount em in the front tower. Cheers! EDIT: Just noticed you noticed later in the vid, sorry about the comment then lmao

[@tommeakin1732]

God I hope they develop this game to the point where we have maximum freedom when it comes to building ships (in terms of placement and shape of the ships and various components). If I can't build a Nelson it's a no-buy for me ;^)

[@burnerheinz]

Tiny boat with big ass battleship guns

[@TheKenji2221]

I personnally hope we can have 4 barrels turrets like on the Richelieu and that we're free to put the tower anywhere on the ship

[@Texaboose]

Am really enjoying this game. had a tense battle last night between my 2 BC's vs a heavily armored BB that I won in the closing minutes. Can't wait until the full version comes out.

[@lightspeedvictory]

When I saw the destroyer collide with u, I was like “Eaton collision! Somebody’s getting court martialed!” And remember Chase, thousands of rounds were fired in each surface engagement during WW II, but only 3% of all shots hit their target A battlecruiser winning against a battleship?! BLASPHEMY!!!!!!! Is it possible to put secondary batteries superfiring on the centerline like on American WW II cruisers?

[@jameshall3747]

super-firing secondaries is possible in this game. On the last mission design you can put 14in guns with a turret in middle and one to each side too, its pretty cool

[@felixlunaris4128]

Dont know if you noticed, but your accuracy is severely diminished when you set your guns to aggressive mode. You score more and stronger damaging hits on the other settings. I recently got the game myself and ive enjoyed tinkering with it and trying out many designs. When you select a hull, and the tech before the mission, it will tell you how many main gun and secondary mounts your ships are limited to.

[@grandgao3984]

23:30 "these dd are just like potato wows players" lol (and they bump into your BC... and they hung back further than your big ship (luckily not trying to torp both of you))

[@sawyerawr5783]

well iChase, you've done it: I've officially dropped all my money on this game

[@nualanet]

Enjoying the Alpha build so far. I love being able to design something with overkill... like 21 main battery guns or masses of torpedo tubes...

[@bustedcogitator8954]

historically funnels takes the heat/smoke from inside the boiler room having more lets the boiler room burn more fuel so faster

[@armymatt83]

This is what Research Bureau in WOW's should have done, given us the ability to build prototype warships.

[@Ushio01]

Yeah because Iowa's packed with Worcestor or Des moines turrets would be fun!.

[@armymatt83]

@@Ushio01 no im talking within reason, no 36k ton "Cruiser" thats really battleship with small guns think unique stuff like a dd that's it's entire rear half been turned into a flight deck or a boat deck to launch smaller attack boats for a example probably as a separate game mode.

[@wotnariya3175]

@@armymatt83 yeah right, that for sure wouldnt completely wreck what little balance is left in the game.

[@armymatt83]

@@wotnariya3175 yeah maybe you should try reading more because I also said in my reply to someone else that it could be a separate game mode.

[@quasadra]

says to talk within reason, then suggest something out of said reason afterward. well, it is what it is i guess.

[@imamage]

Your ship feels like French BB Lyon in World of Warships , so many guns!! And the AI DD collide with your BC just like in Random game.

[@admiralkin2019]

I really love your videos :D keep it up with this title

[@trixus4768]

*27% offset* Chase: this looks good to me 😂😂😂

[@chiefbrody7506]

Looking forward to trying this game. I realize it's only in Alpha but hopefully it can learn a thing or two to the design and fleet controls system from Naval Ops: Warship gunner/ Warship Commander games.

[@IrishAmerican17]

You are in a chase scenario. If you had moved the forward tower back, you could add a 3rd turret in the front and probably evened out the weight displacement.

[@thewildcolonialboy8034]

Next, see how small you can make your ship.

[@BobbinMcferry]

"I will be chasing battleships" *puts most guns on the back*

[@walterengler5709]

Any word on other dev changes? For example from some battles I've seen like this the ships appear to have (and the enemy side) a ridiculous ability to repair damage or put out fires. IE I watched one match where a cruiser took massive damage was burning down to 14% super half flooded .. the person targeted the closer cruiser for a bit and later the other cruiser reappears and flooding was gone, all pumped out, structure was back to 48% .. it was beyond silly.

[@Bellthorian]

It is the Terminator class Battlecruiser. It can not be bargained with, it does not feel pity or remorse and will not stop EVER until you are dead.

[@Arthion]

You might want to have a look at the drawbacks of x3 vs x2 turrets. especially since early historically triplets were rather unreliable, only really starting to come into their own around the 30s

[@airplanemaster1]

Senator Tillman would be fuckin *Proud* of this vessel! If only you could rename ships. Literally the Tillman-class battlecruiser

[@TheCoffeehound]

With armor layouts in this game, is the "zone of immunity" implemented? IRL, battleships were usually designed so that they were very resistant to both plunging fire and direct fire from guns similar to their own within a certain band of ranges.

[@jordananderson2728]

All they'd have to do is an effective thickness mechanic. With how much work he has in the alpha already, I'd think that he could do it without great difficulty.

[@saienide9301]

One, twenty one guns Lay down your arms Give up the fight

[@jmaniere]

Should move the camera on enemy ship to see the incoming salvo hit and splash as this is something we do not see in WoW :-)... that s were the action is (unless your ship health is down ... but that we see in WoW ...always)...

[@benoitlabrecque4513]

Does the fore weigt offset warning has an impact?

[@rpra6435]

to early to say (i am playing closed alpha test with this game like iChase is and for now i cannot answer this question)

[@user-wm9gk3hy5r]

it decreases accuracy

[@memecat57]

significantly as well in my experience the offset is an accuracy penalty to match. a 7% offset is a 7% penalty with penalties over 5% mattering a hella lot.

[@benoitlabrecque4513]

@@memecat57 explains ichase's ship accuracy, he was offset by 28%

[@pattonpending7390]

I don't know if you noticed, but you almost got your kill stolen on that first ship. The destroyer torpedoes hit a it few seconds before your last salvo did. I also found that by setting DDs to AI control and detaching them from the convoy they are really effective at drawing fire and slowing the prey down once you sic them on an enemy. They don't last long, but that's why they're there, right?

[@Squee7e]

Just discovered your channel and i really like your commentary and cutting :) You seemed to wonder why ships sometimes don't get to full speed even under manual control and if i got your question right the reason why this is happening is a lack of torque at high rpm. There can be multiple reasons for it to happen but in the most cases it is a lack of funnel capacity. When in construction view you can see details about it when you hover over the funnel capacity value of your ship.

[@thekatjon20]

This game reminds me of the Naval Ops: Warship Gunner series from back in the PS2 days. :D

[@codegeass5847]

can't wait for next admiral dreadnought videos

[@juangonzalez9848]

Put your funnel in the front tower. Is what I was screaming.

[@ashleysims4115]

Imagine a star wars verse of this

[@Arengeesus]

Make a smolensk that looked like colbert

[@CMDRFandragon]

The chain of damage is satisfying, seeing the actual effects, not so much.....ships just hang at 5% and take another 300 rounds to kill..

[@Leadnap]

I think the consideration you have to have in this as far as balance and design, as you were saying it felt weird you could have all this armor and speed and something was "broken" - you have no secondaries and are thus very susceptible to massed DD attacks. Now you can certainly do the "British" thing and try to use speed and range to dictate the battle and thus safety but the key element here is like you said - if you only have to build a ship for a specific known variable you can substitute elements out that any real naval ship wouldn't dare. Likewise, this ship is incredibly expensive, which most Navies wouldn't have sunk capitol money into multiple of this ship. As someone else said, if you reduced the cost you would have taken 42 guns into the fight - I would say this is very much the WoWs mentality (single ship considerations) but if you reduced the armor values (say not using Krupp) and opted instead to look at ships as expendable, considering the enemy ships likewise can only target one at a time, and armor not touched by a shell is the most powerful armor of all. Sure one ship dies, but some further reductions and selections and you have DD fast battle cruisers taking perhaps even 63 305mms into the battle.

[@iseeu721]

ONE, TWENTY ONE GUNS. LAY DOWN YOUR ARMS, AND GIVE UP THE FIIIGHT

[@wolfie5777]

u should make a ship with 21 18" guns or just put 7 quad mount turrets on a ship which would make it around almost 30 guns

[@kieranmalenoir8705]

GIve them the 21 gun salute Captin

[@derzauberer8605]

Is there a chance you would give Naval Action of the same devs too?

[@mrbismarck]

Friendly DDs dropping spotting by panic smoking and then colliding with you... Ultimate Admiral AI representing WoWs randoms pretty well.

[@Fire-xd6rw]

You should do the battleship vs torpedo boats. I want to see what you could produce

[@jamesricker3997]

Try a 21 gunned Battleship on build a modern battleship. You might be able to get up to 15 or 16 in in gun caliber

[@windborne8795]

Nice to see you trying something else man! 🇺🇸😎

[@DarkStarPast]

suggest weight of shell & power and ammo protect not allowed for yet.

[@rada660]

YOu could put 2 turret in between the towers. HAD YOU PLACED THE FUNNEL IN ITS LITERAL DESIGNATED FUNNEL EMPLACEMENT IN THE FRONT TOWER

[@rangelo7281]

My god! It's a Tillman battlecruiser!

[@neb1006]

This reminds me of naval ops I love it

[@MrFangsea]

@ichasegaming Put the funnel on the Main tower. That space is for a funnel.

[@rpra6435]

For now i had only chance to see if without sound. So for now i do not know what you said in that video - but - my initial impression after couple missions done, couple missions tested is that it is better generaly to have less guns but bigger caliber then more guns of smaller caliber. For example i tested: 5 x 3 - 457mm plus less secondaries and 6 x 3 - 406mm plus shit ton of secondaries and first build with 457mm guns was muuuuuuch more effective. It was not even close.

[@Discohydrus]

I would request that you test something. Does having less weight than your displacement help you resist sinking (float HP) if your hull is breached? I know it would IRL, but I'm wondering if the game would model that.

[@Discohydrus]

As in, set the displacement slider to 36,000t, but keep your equipment and additions take up 34,000t. Does that mean your design can take an extra 2,000t of flooding water?

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

Destroyer: I got a bad feeling about this

[@stflaw]

$50 to buy an early access game. Pass.

[@somedudeonline1936]

stflaw you can preorder for $20

[@Ctuchik]

Green Day called, they want royalty.. :)

[@craigmacintosh6230]

Why do you all (gamer channels that is) love the word 'Fantastic' in just about everything you like?? I've a surprise for you on that. ......There is more words to describe things surprisingly enough ☺

[@kingblane]

Sooooooooooooooo i have a dumb idea that if you get the chance you should try The idea is a battle cruiser or battleship with only casemate and secondary guns with ALOT of armor and *if weight and money allows it* speed as well.

[@N00KIExM0NSTER]

I would like to see the ability to build a ship or fleet and be able to fight other players ship or fleets. either by both sides using AI or in a pvp. id love to see what kind of meta come out of this.

[@horikyosuke4794]

Can you design HMS Tiger and Kongo next time :D

[@xgford94]

Couldn’t look at that hit ....too far away!

[@swedeonhisway8608]

where can you buy this?

[@slayedice1647]

Dont forget in millimeters those big guns are considered puny 12 inchers also the weight offset is Horrendous

[@1210alpha]

iChase, please play the classic PS2 game Warship gunner 2 as well. I believe you will find quite a bit on inspiration in that game!

[@hvymtal8566]

Chase, you fool! The tower has a dedicated funnel slot, you could have had 24 guns!!!

[@sarrumac]

No, he is limited to 7 centerline turrets. But he could have easily got 2 ships and 42 guns.

[@hvymtal8566]

@@sarrumac Oh Well nvm then xD

[@yuukikonno6804]

I don't remember this in WoWs, what am I missing out on?

[@Moon_Cricket_Stinks]

It's not WoWS its ultimate admiral dreadnoughts

[@InternetEntity]

Good grief, that's what I've been doing wrong. I get lower damage numbers with AP, and mostly over pens!

[@budiraharjo4396]

can we build bismarck secondary build?

[@thomasglover7978]

I want this game

[@jameshall3747]

There isn't anything off about your speed values, you are underweight with end of WW2 propulsion on a high performance hull-form with under powered guns and an all or nothing armor scheme. your speed is where you should expect it to be. you lack the weight of secondaries, AA guns, the large superstructure of a battleship, and the weight of your turret and barbette armor is much less due to your smaller caliber guns. You only have 12in guns. (305mm)

[@d3m0n3s_7]

Makes me think of Green Days song 21 guns

[@horsecrazyviking7121]

Shouldn’t it be CB instead of BC?

[@Brix_H]

36kts... load up torpedoes and you have one giant DD

[@616CC]

You want the best shaft? Immature snickering*

[@black07rr]

Are they gonna add ww2 hulls from USA Germany and Japan ?

[@morgangrey4020]

speed and steering play a big part why accuracy stinks.....slower speeds and less steering lead to higher accuracy...also don't get fixated on 1 thing...pay attention to everything going on.....Also..the balance of the ship plays a huge role in being able to turn and speed ...and also the accuracy of the guns.

[@connerburburan9224]

Have more turrets in the front then aft

[@DarkStarPast]

It seem the DDs did a fair job until you separate them. they were laying smoke yes random but the lead DD still spotted.

[@The_New_IKB]

This game needs quad turrets

[@SneakyB]

Would be nice to have quadruple turrets

[@empireempire3545]

How did You get access to this game? Its not sold on steam yet...

[@Zekeziel-Reacts]

It's available on the ultimate admiral site for fifty USD. Google the name and it should be the in the first two or three results.

[@empireempire3545]

@@Zekeziel-Reacts Thanks mate

[@thegovernor8654]

will there be multiplayer one day?

[@lisandromartinez7687]

$ 50 for a closed alpha ... if they put it at half the price on steam at this point until WG would buy it for sale in their own store

[@Angel33Demon666]

How’ve people been finding the stability of the game? I couldn’t play half my games to the end before it crashes.

[@ichasegaming]

I've had no issues, but if there are crashing issues, you might have to seek help on their forums

[@airplanemaster1]

Playing a mission, my heavy cruiser scores a lucky hit on an escort with its second volley of the mission. Game crashed to desktop *right* as it hits home. Had a solid 3 hour session before that.