Ultimate Guide To Sports Card Surface Repair! Quick Steps to See Results!

[@davidthecardcollector]

So is there any long term issues that might arise from using the car wax?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

None that we are aware of. We had heard from multiple people that have used it for years that they have seen no sign of change. It makes sense since a car wax would protect a car from UV rays and prevent damage to the paint and not cause it.

[@davidthecardcollector]

@@nothingbutcardboard Thanks

[@sspecmedia]

This video is AMAZING.. The true $1Million question is does or can the 3rd party grading companies detect the cards have been cleaned with a chem based solution and or have you ever ran into this issue with one PSA , Beckett, etcetcetc.. Thanks Man!

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Great question. I have done this on many cards and then sent them to PSA. Non have ever come back as altered. There really isn’t a way for them to detect it.

[@sspecmedia]

@@nothingbutcardboard Ok cool.. Personally, I am a seasoned comic book dry cleaning and hear presser and have to tread lightly when it comes to group chats CGC and/or CBCS.. Each comic presser has a trick or two in their arsenal they don't discuss, simply the reason(s) you mentioned at the beginning of the video. So I know exactly what you mean.. Thanks for the video, subbed up and Notifications on!!

[@longyang4046]

Hey, just came across your video. Very helpful. I am curious, is the pad you bought a "finishing pad", "heavy polishing pad", "light-med pad", or "med-heavy cutting pad"? I see a similar hex looking pad on Amazon to yours..but they have these 4 options, for types of pad. Thank you.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Hey thanks for the comment. I actually have links to all the products I used in the description. If you take a look on there you can buy the same one I was using.

[@longyang4046]

😂 my bad, I shouldve checked there first lol. Appreciate you bro ​@@nothingbutcardboard

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@longyang4046 lol no worries

[@w8482eat]

Thanks for the video. I've been struggling to figure out what to use on some of the Optic/Prizm cards with micro scratches. How do you handle cleaning cards with autos?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@w8482eat you have to clean around the auto if you use Maguiar’s because it can take the auto straight off. But you can use Kurt’s over the auto. You just have to apply with minimum pressure.

[@bigfred3083]

Can u use this cleaning tools on pokemon cards as well ????

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Yes, but you may want to practice on a few you don’t care about before working on a more expensive card

[@bigfred3083]

@@nothingbutcardboard ok thanks will do appreciate the tip

[@patrickwholley8360]

Hey man, awesome video. Where did you get your applicater? I went to Walmart after watching your video and found all the Meguirs products but none came with the applicator. Thanks!

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Hey, I got the applicators off Amazon. If you look in the description of this video I have links to all the products. Glad you liked the video and best of luck on your cards.

[@emirkulovic713]

This is smart. Just like you would deep clean your car before selling. But does it work? Can card get damaged in process?

[@frostyfeetcards]

It can if you're not careful. Practice on a stack of commons until you feel confident.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Yes and yes. It is not a miracle worker, but you can get small print line, scratches, and blemishes out of the card. However, you need to be careful, especially with the mcguires. Mcguires has some abrasive properties, so I would not use it on a paper card. It is also a liquors, so you don’t want to expose it to the sides of a chrome card because you may cause delamination or color staining. I would recommend testing it on a cheap card from the same set to practice if possible. As far as the Kurt’s wax goes, you probably won’t damage the card with it, but you don’t want to get wax stuck in stamps on the card. Hope this helps.

[@elenaperez8557]

Does that foam car spray leave an odor on the card? Thanks

[@nothingbutcardboard]

No, the McGuires does not leave an odor.

[@thepermitman99]

Is there anything you can do for the back of the card? Particularly a light scratch or scuff.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@thepermitman99 the back is tough. You can try Kurt’s wax, but I have not been super successful.

[@theirishman088]

I miss the days when you could sit down, trade cards and not even look at a corner or a blemish. We were beyond excited to get the card we wanted no matter what it looked like.

[@crazyantny9161]

Yeo, sucks that they hijacked a child's hobby and half was sent to China. I remember when a pack was a dime and the was no worry about finding a brand knew gold 1 of 1 with scratches, print lines and drinks right out if the box or pack

[@theslickrips5904]

@@crazyantny9161 children can still have plenty of fun. Even when you made this comment you coupd easily find single packs of current era cards for five but mostly less.

[@BinhNguyen-sn4sl]

whats stopping you from still doing that? how does me getting scratches off my cards affect how you enjoy the hobby?

[@theirishman088]

@BinhNguyen-sn4sl it doesn't. Do what you want. My point is you wouldn't trade that 9 or 10 for my card that has banged up corners. You would look over that card to see what it could grade at and thats ok. As kids we didn't care you just wanted your favorite player and for the most part it didn't cost hundreds of dollars to get. I dont buy super expensive cards but others do and that's cool bc its part of the hobby. I continue to buy what I like.

[@andrewsinger7017]

Not true all. Bent corners, un-centered was so undesirable and trades reflected that.

[@garrettblaylock7206]

You said “Magauairs” can mess up the coloring of the card depending on what type of card it is. If you use it on NBA chrome cards would Maguairs be completely fine to use on those type of cards without worrying about messing up the coloration?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@garrettblaylock7206 yes should be fine ok the front. But you can always test it on a lower dollar card from the same year first

[@PurdyGoat]

Can you use Kurt’s on the back of cards to get printing lines out

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@PurdyGoat you can, but it doesn’t work quite as well and you need to wipe it before it dries.

[@thedarkgreenmarine2100]

I have a tlaw with the exact issue, I would like to see you grade a few of these and see what the results are. I come from a coin collection background and cleaning coins is a huge NO! but cards are different.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

I submitted the contenders optic in this video as a test. Should show up in a month or two.

[@kareempies4341]

Cleaning coins , which are a hard material should be more exceptable than cards

[@thedarkgreenmarine2100]

@@kareempies4341 it’s not look up coin cleaning on KZbin you will see it destroys value

[@tomconder7320]

@@nothingbutcardboard will you be doing a video to share the results? Would be very interesting to see what happens

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@tomconder7320 I did submit the rookie ticket to PSA to see how it grades as a test. Will probably have it back in a few months

[@oaktownfish3665]

Is this easier on holo cards? And is there an easier way to do it or different tools to try to make it disappear. I have a rookie on card Josh giddey auto that I received in a slab and just noticed the smallest Scratch in the bottom corner smh I just wanna sell it raw but how much would that scratch devalue it?

[@chadsitarski3848]

Great video! Quick question. What is the brand of the orange sponge you’re using in the video? Thanks

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Thanks for the question. I actually have all the items listed in the description with Amazon links. I believe it is made by the chemical guys

[@chadsitarski3848]

Thank you!!

[@XYouVandal]

have you done this on the back of a topps silver pack 1989 card?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

I have not unfortunately

[@TravelLivingthedream]

Will this work on vintage cards ?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

It can if it has a glossy top coat, but you need to berm very careful. I would not recommend MeGuiars on anything but chrome/Prizm finished cards. You can use Kurt’s wax on some of the older stuff. But always test it on a cheap card before using it on the one you care about.

[@greezyraider6654]

Does the the Meguires need to be this specific one? Ultimate Compound?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

I typically use ultimate compound. You can try the others, but they may work differently. I have tried the scratch remover and it is a little more aggressive and can take the top coat off a card.

[@ducksauce9286]

Would this help on a Donruss football downtown ?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

The Kurt’s may help it, but I would be careful if you try the Mcguires. You can rub the paint/foil off of paper cards. Kurt’s is not abrasive and would probably be your best bet, but make sure to practice on another donruss card beforehand.

[@giantsfan9117]

Hye man thanks for the video and it absolutely works but some will take a bit longer. However i have a question for you. When i polish the chrome cards for too many times. There's a ring starting to appear. I did use kurts polish before using the compound. My question to you is, how u get rid of that haze ring?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

You would have to even it out which can take some time. On some cards, if you focus on one spot you with get that ring.

[@eddiefrank8639]

I know this is an old video, but will this work for Pokémon vintage,holos?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

You can use the Kurt’s, but be careful with Meguiar’s as it is abrasive and can take the paint off of foil and paper cards

[@FLIPSportsCards]

Do you have any success in dealing with heavy print lines going across the entire card…are those even fixable using these applications?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

They will be better, but most thick print lines will not completely come out

[@wallygator7508]

I have a mosaic white sparkle Anthony richardson card and on the back the film is lifting up on the top of the card where the edge is. Would a heat press bond it back together or should I just try and get a replacement from panini?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

I would be very careful with a heat press as you can damage the card further. But if you have a similar mosaic Prizm card, I would test it with that first. I have had cards delaminate in the past and had some success wetting the card with rubbing alcohol and then clamping it between two plates. You could try to send it back to panini, but I have had a damaged card there for over two years with no movement. Your other option would be to sell as is. If you decided to try to repair make sure to test the method on another card first. Best of luck!

[@thepermitman99]

So do you use Meguiars and Kurt’s or just one?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Typically Kurt’s first and then Meguiars

[@keyloexiong7032]

Will the miguars work for scratches on the back of prizm cards?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Unfortunately the back surface is much more difficult since it has a paper finish. If you rub the back of a Prizm hard too hard with Meguiar’s it can take the paint off since it is slightly abrasive. You can try lightly rubbing, but I have not been very successful. I have also tried Kurt’s and it may help a little, but not much.

[@julienlefebvre6267]

Hey man! Nice vid. Do you know if this Mcguire product can correct small scrathes on cardboard cards like Pokemon or Yugioh? I'm very curious about that.🙂

[@nothingbutcardboard]

You have to be very careful with foil cards as it will peal the paint off. You can apply it with minimal force, but I would practice on a throwaway card first. From my experience I’ve had more success with Kurt’s on a foil card

[@julienlefebvre6267]

@@nothingbutcardboard ok gonna buy it, I just retrieved some $10k Yugioh cards in my basement lol really want to make sure I don't mess them up😳

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@julienlefebvre6267 wow! I need a basement!

[@Arla94]

​@@julienlefebvre6267 how did you get on with using this on cardboard surface cards I'm in the same boat?

[@julienlefebvre6267]

@@Arla94 just rub but very lightly. Because it can fade easily and the card can lose its color, be vary careful. If you rub to hard or put too much polish, you can burn or discolor the card...

[@thehighvibe5528]

i have a small ink pen mark on the back of a montana 8 rookie which has a chance at a 10.... any recommendations? willing to pay

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Ink marks are tough. If it was printed that way, I’m not sure there is much you can do about it

[@jibcoolio7]

Try boiling it in peroxide on simmer

[@tomconder7320]

The comic book hobby went through this controversy 20+ years ago (cleaning and heat pressing to remove defects)… it is now accepted as it is undetectable too expensive to do so. It’s now widely accepted and comics are often advertised as ‘never pressed’ as an added bonus, meaning the collector can press the book and see a grade bump if submitted. Also, reportedly, people (including high end investors) were already doing this for years before the average collector was aware. I suspect the same is happening with the card market. Those opposed might as well accept it as where there’s a will, there’s a way. I see no issue here.

[@aaricyaney8762]

So i found that on Bowman Chrome, this worked absolute wonders. However, i have noticed on Prizm Basketball that if im really trying to work a print line or scratch out, i end up with this hazy splotchy kind of surface in some areas. It almost looks like tape residue, maybe too aggressive with the polish and sponge and damaged the top coat with heat or abbrasion? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Glad to hear it’s working! Now as far as the haze goes, it is probably because you are only working a small portion of the card and probably pushing pretty hard. You can try to even it out on the rest of the card, but that will take some elbow grease as well. The Meguiar’s is mildly abrasive, so try not to push overly hard for long periods of time in just one spot or you may get that haze. It is possible you took the entire top coat off of the card if you spent an excessively long time on it. Unfortunately, not all print lines will come out, but most cards will get better. Hope this helps!

[@michaelkaufman8616]

Is there any way to fix the haze spot from not using Kurt’s card care first?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

If it gets hazy, in a spot you need to use meguiars over the entire card to even it out. Sometimes it can get hazy if you leave it on too long and it just needs to be wiped off.

[@ScaryTerryCards]

Great video! Thanks for steps. I guess dimple are the only issues now.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Yeah unfortunately you can’t really fix dimples, but this can definitely help print lines, light scratches, and other surface imperfections.

[@TheCardHunter]

Great video. Can you repair dimples?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Dimples typically do no come out. Your best bet would be to apply multiple layers of Kurt’s to fill it in.

[@jpcolecciona]

actually, kurts channel shows how to get dimples out using the tool included in his kit and moisture...no product though, just elbow grease @@nothingbutcardboard

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@jpcolecciona I haven’t seen that one. Was that on paper or chrome stock cards?

[@jpcolecciona]

He worked on a MJ rookie card and im working on a chrome card and its working pretty well @@nothingbutcardboard

[@syncrovanCos]

@@jpcolecciona Kurts who, please ? I'm new to this.

[@2013ClaytonLeeCain]

Dumb question but this method works on the back of Prizm cards as well right?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

It can help, but you have to be careful on non chrome/prizm surfaces because it is abrasive and can take some paint off if you push too hard

[@2013ClaytonLeeCain]

@@nothingbutcardboardyou got any videos of attempting the back surface?

[@Carlos-cg2ky]

Hello sir may ask where would it be possible to get cards clean and polish rather doing it yourself and yes I know but rather have an expert. Do you know any website or person who can help? Thank you

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Hey Carlos, @manger8882 may be able to help you out. He does great work (better than I do). I’m not sure of his pricing, but he cleans cards professionally for other people. Here is his channel: youtube.com/@manger8882?si=5XYxqs37vBGvkDT_

[@thehighvibe5528]

im looking for light pen mark to be removed on the back of a card... plz advise ✌🏼

[@sportsdogg7749]

I've tried using the Meguiars compound. It fixed a scratch on one card but another card still had the scratch and wont go away. I applied about it like 5 -10 times. It was on a bowman chrome card. Any tips?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Sometimes that is just the way it goes unfortunately. Some scratches are too deep and won’t completely come out. It should at a minimum make it less noticeable. Just keep applying coats until it’s not making a difference. You can also try Meguuair’s scratch-x. IT can help with deeper stuff, but be careful because it is a little more abrasive than the ultimate compound and can leave fogginess/rings. Hope this helps Meguiar's SCRATCH-X, Fine Scratch... www.amazon.com/dp/B0006ZXUAG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@sportsdogg7749]

I did notoce some fogginess rings with the compound but was able to get it out. Everything Im trying out is on base cards that arent worth anything. Just want to make sure I get the technique down before applying to any valuable cards.

[@NathanPhillipsPhoto]

Does this work on metal cards like the celebrations metal charizard card? I believe it’s painted

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@NathanPhillipsPhoto honestly I’m not sure. Would be worth testing on a cheaper card though

[@davidportnoy3237]

Do you know how to fix a big ass dent on a card?

[@Sam-kv5ul]

How many cards do you usally get through per tin?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

I’m sorry, what do you mean per tin?

[@Sam-kv5ul]

The little container that the kurts wax comes in

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@Sam-kv5ul it lasts a really long time. Probably 200+ cards or so

[@ericblair5174]

You may have mentioned it in the video-if so, I apologize for missing it-but does Meguiar’s work on the back of chrome cards with roller lines? Is it safe? Thanks!

[@nothingbutcardboard]

You have to be very careful on the back of cards because it can take the paint straight off if you push hard. It can definitely help with the roller lines, but I would practice on a card you don’t care about first.

[@Mr.RAM138]

What about a WAVE REFRACTOR PRINT LINE 😢

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@Mr.RAM138 print lines are tough. I’ve had some success with print lines, but it depends on how deep it is.

[@Mr.RAM138]

@@nothingbutcardboard thank you for response

[@mercedesw1268]

Yes, but you could see the high and low spots now which will make it obvious to PSA that you alter the card

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Not quite sure what you mean. It actually came back a PSA 10

[@brandeelaroche6159]

@@mercedesw1268 for the love of God cleaning something to bring the card back to the way it was , is not altering! When you start to modify the colors , numbers or make new changes to the card that is altering but that is not!!! Not when they are valuable cards and something might hv happen by accident so I called a bunch of card collectors and they say that’s why their is a fix to what happens to the cards now!!! As long as you don’t change serial numbers or add things tht don’t belong to that card you can v fixed and if the grading company picks up on it then they will grade it lower if not than heyyyy our cards got lucky when being fixed to the original card!!!!

[@Larams2011]

Can Kurt Card care remove dimples

[@nothingbutcardboard]

No it cannot unfortunately

[@stikayuspirit]

Hey i got the haze. Is that permanent? 😢

[@nothingbutcardboard]

You should be able to get it off. If you bought the Kurt’s set, you should be able to use the spray to get it off. if not, try a windex or rubbing alcohol solution and see if it comes off.

[@stikayuspirit]

Ok thanks. I did actually end up using a couple layers of kurts wax it did the trick.

[@dannyventura9909]

Can i use a dishwashing sponge like the light green squisht soft side so i can hear that beautiful squeaky cry of scratches and dirt leaving my card? 😂🎉

[@nothingbutcardboard]

lol, I would try that on a card you don’t care about first instead of the LeBron James chrome rookie

[@degrom542]

It is absolutely detectable. Ever run your hand or a dry cloth across a fresh waxed car surface ?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

It depends on the type of card. The Optic/chrome type cards have that kind of finish to begin with

[@nothingbutcardboard]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/goG2d2qOhtCqedU This is what SGC had to say about it.

[@frostyfeetcards]

Maybe, but no grading company will run their hands or cloth over your card and even if they do, they can't assume (Note SGC interview). I mean they could do the water test but I doubt their going to risk spraying down cards to see if water beads off of them. They won't even clean off dust before they grade them but I'm sure it's a liability thing. Secondly, it's cleaned off. It's not like Daniel waxed on and decided not to wax off. A 365NM blacklight can detect a crazy amount of stuff and it's still invisible. There's nothing there.

[@anthonytoto4774]

Does this work for Kabooms? 😅

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@anthonytoto4774 lol probably not, but let me know if you try ;)

[@devinmh9125]

Any tips for getting out a slight crease?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

The only success I’ve seen for removing creases is soaking cards.

[@devinmh9125]

@@nothingbutcardboard thats what ive seen too

[@Niners49fan]

Compound is not wax. It will actually remove wax. If you need something less aggressive use machine polish. It's a step down from compound.

[@theconscientiousperfecter]

Doesn't work unless you run them through the carwash afterwards and push the button for the carnauba wax.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Lol

[@nickmartinez2945]

Great job my man!!

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Thank you sir! Have a good one

[@Shoesforaday]

I’m using this to repair a rookie Wayne Gretzky card, hope it actually works lol

[@nothingbutcardboard]

lol I’m hoping you’re kidding. But if you’re not, be very careful on the surface of a paper card. Meguiars will take the paint right off of it. I would use Kurt’s only if the card has a natural gloss to it.

[@Shoesforaday]

@@nothingbutcardboard thank you for the tip, will keep it under mind and I’ll let you know how it goes, also I’m not kidding lol

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Gotcha. In the case, you may want to buy a cheap card from the same set and test Kurt’s and Meguiar’s on it first. You don’t want to ruin that card. That’s a grail card

[@Jrv_cardcollector]

Hey bro did u end up sending the cards to psa ??

[@nothingbutcardboard]

I sent the contenders optic to PSA as a test. Will have it back in a few months

[@Jrv_cardcollector]

@@nothingbutcardboard ok love ur psa videos I love grading myself and cleaning them ..

[@ArrowoodsHobbyShop-Ebay]

​@@nothingbutcardboard how did it turn out?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@ArrowoodsHobbyShop-Ebay PSA 10!

[@sporto20mi]

Zero issue with this. Not something I'm doing but I have no issue with cleaning the grime off 90s refractors and getting factory detritus off cards.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Thanks for the comment and your opinion!

[@12Daze]

7:25 - Wonder how many dogs tilted their heads right there... 🐕

[@kens7432]

Whoever says this is illegal don't know the laws! 🖕🏽🤣🖕🏽.. IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW!!

[@anthonyp2297]

PSA is deactivating/not allowing cards with outside chemicals on them. Ungradeable SMH

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@anthonyp2297 they don’t actually have a way of telling. That card came back a PSA 10

[@anthonyp2297]

@@nothingbutcardboard the interview with the PSA CEO said they will have a way to find out as well as gives notes on why things didn't get a 10. This video is proof. Only a matter of time till this one gets deactivated. I'd even make a friendly wager if your interested. PSA isn't gonna let their company grade cards if they don't know what happens to the cards long term with all these mystery goo's and chemicals.

[@RonLoranger-cz9tb]

Print lines and smudges are not part of the card. Don’t see a problem with fixing a problem from the printer. Trimming cards is fraud, not cleaning it. Just my opinion, I’m no expert

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Good point, thanks for sharing!

[@stan8252]

If your subbing cards without using Kurt’s…your throwing away money… use it with every card I sub…always 9s and 10s 👌🏼

[@AThomp2487]

How long do you wait to sleeve cards after polishing them?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@AThomp2487 usually you can put them in a sleeve within a minute or so

[@clarkprice222]

Yeah or just don't sub damaged cards. I don't clean with this crap and my last PSA sub I got 24 10's out of 31 cards.

[@crazyantny9161]

Well, everyoone has their opinion... Heres the deal and im sure the card slab bozos will eventually follow suit. Its a no no to clean the crap of an coin. However, if you pay them, they will remove anything you want with the same same stuff that if you used it and submitted, you receive a slab saying cleaned or rough clean. Now isnt that hypocritical!!! If thats the, if you cracked the case and resubmitted to another company, you should come back with a cleaned coin correct??? The other end is that, you arent paid, so your not a professional., when and how did the graders concoct there mystery fluids ahhh you tube??? Too much hypocricy in the collecting word. Imho, if its yours you should be able to do whatever you want. If you ever go to sell, honest disclosure. Its just a bunch of bs!!! These oriental cards in most cases are scratched to crap and dinged right out of a pack that was in a bax that cost 40 bucks plus with tax. In first grade I bought my first pack of TOPPS baseball cards. NINE CENTS for the pack! No one gave a hoot about grading and slabbing. A few years later, we started figuring out how to assigning grades such as we now pay psa for, correct... They charge a heftey price and have been proven to be off half the time by resubbing. Its all hypocricy. These companies want you to belIieve you need them so they have a job and stay in business. Authenication is all any are good for and thats if they are qualified! I personally had a Dimaggio ball pass, then fail trying to get a second cert. So where are we... Hypocricy. No one needs these high priced ass clowns! Way back then, nor do they today. These slabbers have totally destroyed the hobby!!!! My point is. Card collecting is still a childs hobby, but how many first graders are going to pull 2 andrew jacksons out of their pocket while stopping at the store on their way home from school...

[@elisfosteredcards]

Accept the grade and move on

[@kareempies4341]

I am not sure I am that upset at people doing this stuff, just wish PSA was a lot better at detecting this stuff and just charge the grading fees but not grade it.

[@lmst3ls]

Weird thing to get upset about 😂

[@nothingbutcardboard]

From what I have heard, none of the graders are able to detect cleaning. SGC came out and said that “they can’t catch what is not there”. So it is an interesting circumstance. Appreciate your comment and opinion!

[@kareempies4341]

@@lmst3ls guess you struggle with reading , said I am not upset

[@frostyfeetcards]

@kareempies4341 Well you wishing people would get charged a fee without the service provided can be easily mistaken as you being upset despite you saying that you're not. Similar to asking my wife if she's mad and her saying "no" when she clearly is. You're not a fan, i get it because you think it's unethical even if you can't tell the difference if the cards were right in front of you. Yet you wish upon a company to charge people without providing the service paid for as a form of punishment which is actually unethical in every way possible. I don't mind the difference in opinions, I don't comprehend the negativity. It'd be like me getting upset that you sent a card in for grading that had no chance for 10 then having to watch you get irritated about it because you don't know why you got a 9.

[@billyworks3702]

Here’s a thought, focus that energy on the manufacture for having these issues on pack fresh cards.

[@teknoGoblin207]

"Why is my PSA 10 T-Law turning green?" This. This is why.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Appreciate the comment

[@jpcolecciona]

care to elaborate...

[@teknoGoblin207]

@juanpablobendana6235 so sports cards aren't like cars. There's not a lot protecting the chrome from anything. Cars have a clear coating on them, and that's why you can use this to buff out scratches. When you use car scratch remover on a card, the abrasive compounds break down the surfaces of the card, and the chemicals in the remover can interact with the card over time. This used to happen to Topps Chrome cards in the 90s because the ink they used would chemically interact with the chrome. You're never going to be able to get rid of ALL surface scratches. Sometimes, a scratch is just too deep and you're SOL. But for minor to moderate scratches, all you really need is Kurt's card wax and polish, a little time, patience, and elbow grease.

[@codking82]

Do not use this approach Especially on backs of cards It creates rings. You can’t remove them. Bad video

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@codking82 I definitely wouldn’t recommend doing it in anything but a chrome surface (front of card). Sorry you’ve had a bad experience, but it works very well on Prizm and chrome cards.

[@codking82]

@@nothingbutcardboard how would you remove the ring on back of card??

[@codking82]

@@nothingbutcardboard hello ???

[@codking82]

@@nothingbutcardboard ok so how would you remove it if it’s on the back of card

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@codking82 did you watch the video? It is for the front of the card. It is near impossible to fix the back of the card. If you put rings on the back of the card you’re SOL.

[@chrisc9997]

Lot of work for $15 to $50

[@tyler2k523]

you must be the laziest person ever cause it is was 5 min of his time without explaining it to us😂

[@harjimbaugh4234]

this should be illegal, you are altering the card and it should not be submitted for grading, shame on you!

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Like I said, it is very controversial. What is your opinion on doing this for PC Cards?

[@markmaestas1129]

@@nothingbutcardboard It's unethical. You aren't just cleaning the card, you are altering it. The Meguiars has fine abrasives in it. So you are actually "sanding" the glossy coat to remove the scratches which makes the glossy coat thinner. The card is altered and might discolor or fade easier. Grading and or selling a card like this is unethical and bad for the hobby.

[@frostyfeetcards]

@markmaestas1129 Cleaning is not altering. If they were filling print lines, trimming, adding color, it would be bad. Fact is they are just cleaning off post production issues caused by who knows what is not unethical. You can't will your way to a 10 if the card doesn't have the components of a 10. Stop the shaming. You can keep sending in thumb printed cards and slow rolled scratches but shaming people based on (it'll blow your mind) your opinion is unethical as they are not part of the card to begin with. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a cleaned card and one that hasn't been so unmount from your high horse and just leave people be. Washing my car because of dirt witbout disclosing it before a sale isn't unethical. Painting it without telling anyone it's been painted is.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

@@markmaestas1129 appreciate you’re opinion, we are not saying it is ethical or unethical, just showing how to clean the card. Is it unethical to clean the card for your PC?

[@lmst3ls]

lmao “illegal”

[@valenciafantv]

You really shouldn’t be showing this… it’s unethical and bordering on fraud

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Is it unethical to clean PC Cards?

[@iMixMaSteR1]

Is it unethical to wax your car before you sell it?

[@nickcpa6113]

This is no different than if you were selling a car - wouldn't you clean it up before you sold it? THey touch up and restore paintings all the time.

[@frostyfeetcards]

What you're saying is your opinion and your entitled to it. But unless you can tell if a card has been cleaned or not, then it's just your personal moral compass talking. You don't have to partake, but you don't get to decide what is right or wrong when nobody can actually tell if a card has been cleaned or not. Nope, not PSA, not BGS, not SGC, not CGC and not even Meguire's can tell if you used their products or not. You're basically looking for ghosts.

[@theirishman088]

Lol as is no warranty. Cards have gotten too serious. It's his card he can do whatever he wants

[@mrsmith7751]

Oil paintings are restored all the time. Why not do it to cards?

[@nothingbutcardboard]

Good point, thanks for your opinion.

[@frostyfeetcards]

I was thinking i was gonna see Gem Mint Jon's Juice v1. Happy to see you guys accepting this.

[@nothingbutcardboard]

It is a pretty hotly debated topic, but we can see both sides. But as test we did send a few cleaned cards to PSA and they were slabbed