ULTIMATE KITCHEN - ONI - Spaced Out: Ep. #46 (Oxygen Not Included)

[@lothux4984]

12:36 I think u could freeze this water using naphtha and then auto-sweeper could take it out

[@jigorkij]

Maybe small suggestion: You could build small room with sweeper, conveyor loader and sweepy robot between kitchen and mess hall and leave door to mess hall opened. Robot would go trough opened doors, sweep up any food leftovers on the floor and take them to its base. Then sweeper would take them, insert into loader and sent them back to deep frozen storage. (Room needs to be divided from mess hall as sweeper and loader are considered industrial machinery.)

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Interesring idea, can the sweepy robot use doors?

[@jigorkij]

@@Nathans-Sandbox You need to set up door manually to open, then he will pass them inside another room.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@christinaify]

I wonder if the water went to the left because the dupe sensor was on the right. It may have considered that tile occupied so it pushed it into the one that wasn’t.

[@sardar106]

5:13 you always *mess* this up

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@drunken7634]

You could actually build a temp shift plate out of plastic to make naphtha a bit quicker and at a bigger amount to boot!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Good point!

[@Pixx_-]

Looks like you might want to move your main bus line to the right side of that tunnel if you can. It might be bleeding ugly into your first few dupe rooms.

[@VapourWav3]

I kinda wanna see Nathans's son's reaction when he heard him yell... 🤣keep up the good work man...

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@BeardForge]

There is still a huge problem with your bedrooms, they aren't 9 tiles from the rocket base. Which means the exhaust from rockets will reach it and eventually melt it down.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I mentioned in the video that the interplanetary launcher systwm will move over there. So far the exhaust of the steam rocket wasn't an issue.

[@MelfiortheOne]

Check out wall pump mod, helps a lot with making vacuum tiles like this one

[@ThePiachu]

With the food changes, I know people are adding a cooling loop to the chlorine and even a metal tile beneath the food for extra heat capacity. That way you can achieve Deep Freeze with the cooking ingredients more easily and make them not spoil.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@ahmataevo]

I think I preferred my old kitchen design on the old vanilla version, it is even more relevant now with Spaced Out if you're making berry sludge and mixed berry pie. My kitchen had mechatronics delivery directly from wild farm/no harvest area. It was completely CO2 and chilled to -20C from my wheeze wort cooling loop (kept directly below my drecko ranches and fed phosphorite completely by mechatronics), outside the main base area and the chefs use atmo suits (to help get the achievement) .I was making frost burgers then, but it turns out those really are much more labor intensive than pepper bread because of needing 3 total cooking stages. Anyway, 1 layer for 2 mushers, 2nd for 2 grills, 3rd for the 2 gas ranges, tile in between 3rd up hold food accessible by sweepers, cooked food gets conveyor'd to next stage cooking or permanent storage right next to the great halls. It's a really powerful format with so much automation, but now instead of a chlorine tile you'd need a vacuum tile on top of a mesh tile and make sure all food is pre-chilled to deep-freeze, and make sure accidental pee can never reach or break the liquid lock. Also keep a gas minipump in there just in case, so 3 tiles high (2 for pump, 1 for conveyor chute), and to be extra extra sure a liquid minipump below the mesh tile. ALSO remember to have space directly above cooking stations for the duplicant motion sensor and ceiling light.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Sounds like you prepared a kitchen for many dupes.

[@ahmataevo]

@@Nathans-Sandbox - Yeah, was built to have a capacity of 60 in mind. Was running quite slow by 24 already (18 if excluding rocket dupes). But, I have a new build that runs everything much faster.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@nhatphibui5457]

At 0:16 you can remove those two solid tiles by placing a robo miner within the range. The robo miner will drill those tiles for you

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Ah great tip!

[@Aiden_Walter]

That you so much. I couldn't figure out how to make the storage

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

👍 I made some improvements on the next episode.

[@SoulCrushing]

You might be able to use the Thermo Regulator with a Hydrogen loop to freeze food. Takes considerably less power and gives off less heat than its liquid brother, and the task of freezing food shouldn’t demand much cooling.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I ended up doing that;)

[@SomeGuy-ty7kr]

I feel like your kitchen could use a mini-fridge, just for that final bit of molding on the ceiling.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@naefaren3515]

I thought of this seeing that naptha in the water around 8:30, if you have a little bit of other liquids mixed in together, if the amount is small enough, you can do a sweep command to get it out I'm pretty sure. Also hearing your insane gasp of relief when the bleachstone removed the water was VERY relatable. I was having a similar issue with my setup and ended up just letting it be carbon dioxide because I was so frustrated. I wonder if just dropping bleachstone in there earlier and opening the top would have worked?

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

That was a good moment. I was ready to end the episode righ there😂

[@naefaren3515]

@@Nathans-Sandbox I wouldn't have been upset with you for it either, if you've played this game long enough, then you're gonna experience something like this. It's so frustrating sometimes. Thanks for the great content and consistency though! I look forward to your vids every other day!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@jesserussell2746]

Uproot the plant in the room above the nature reserve and the pip should plant the last seed

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

That would be amazing, I'll try that thanks!

[@joaocasado7194]

If you put 2 low power transformers and conect to the same wire, the limit of wattage the wire goes to 2 kw, its better than the large transformer that delivers 4kw, more than the conductive cable can hold

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

You just have to make sure you don't exceed the limit, but it's a good trick!

[@fadul1234]

Wow so early!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@sardar106]

First yoooo

[@looweeg4229]

yoioooo

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@Periodic-Milk]

I found you recently love your videos keep it up!!!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Thank you!;)

[@ShawnHCorey]

GG. The dupes can build the chute diagonally but they have to be 2 tiles away. If they are right next to it, they won't build. Place a ladder for them to stand on, which you can remove after.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Wow didn't know that!

[@Jiimy8me]

this is definitely good to know for future shenanigans :)

[@thelicand3931]

If you need more Naptha in the future, you can get a ton of it really easily with a plastic tempshift plate. IDK if you do that later, im only at the tiles right now lol

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Ah good point!

[@salemprompthous3820]

For the vacuum seal in the storage tile: when using a blob of water, it will always move to an available tile. If there are any gases occupying a tile, the water will seek out a vacuum. If no vacuum available, it'll get deleted, if it's mass is lower than the gas. My preferred method of making this storage is to force a small ammount of CO2, less than 500g, and when the bleach stone gets in there, it'll overwrite it with chlorine. Might take some time, as the CO2 needs to be "eaten" first, depends a bit on how much CO2 is in the tile (less than 500g takes, at max, 2 cycles to replace it with chlorine). And yes, I use chlorine cause it's the only gas that effectively removes germs without going too far below deep freeze temperatures. Hydrogen can go a lot lower, killing germs with extremely cold temps, ofc, though I feel chlorine is a quicker solution. Edit: had the vid paused 2sec before trying the bleach stone. Guess I now have a new way of getting this done, thanks @Nathan 😍. A whole lot simpler than my current method

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@Jiimy8me]

another way, without having to rely on dupes using the loader, would have been to install a bleachstone wallpaper behind the chute then deconstructed it through the corner, dropping 5kg of bleachstone inside

[@salemprompthous3820]

@@Jiimy8me would require the use of the wallpaper mod, though. Personally, I don't use it. But for those who do, it's a great point, as it would be exactly 5kg of bleach, where the loader can take 1000kg, and the rails hold 20kg per tile. When something happens elsewhere, the loaders can be neglected, and then have all the bleach stone on the map in one single spot. Can take a while getting it all out again 😅

[@nico-ob6wj]

Kitchen setup is really hard to come up with in the DLC,but this one is great! I don't play with mods except pliers but I feel like there should be a bonus if you have a proper kitchen like you don't get germs or something.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@JD_Mortal]

There needs to be a "room" for the three types of kitchens. Each should give a good bonus to the chef, who can't get the same exposure as the rest of the dupes, as well as extending food life or calories or bonus buffs to the prepped food. Cooked food is already germ free... If it has germs, it got them from a dirty dupe touching the food. (The cook should be the only one allowed to touch cooked food. It's stupid that it drops on the floor instead of being elevated on a side-table. (The musher doesn't cook food. It creates germs on most food. Not something you want in an actual kitchen. It's a tool, like a sausage grinder, not a stove.)

[@elWhiteNinja1]

I love the way you say "two-dai" it makes me happy every video

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@elWhiteNinja1]

@@Nathans-Sandbox your English is a million times better than any other language I speak. Studied Spanish for 5 years and I barely remember any of it. I'm a little jealous

[@TheNoldaz]

Coincidentally I just set up my kitchen one tile with clorine and man I laughed so hard as I understand the annoyance. Finally I just drop the clorine on the tile and close it b4 carbon slips in. I would put 2 likes if I could 😅

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@larrylindgren9484]

Steel is a liquid pipe is not the best for a radiant pipe. Actually, it's not even in the top 5. Copper is better than steel. Aluminum is very good, and you do have it on your other planet. Now steel with gas is one of the best.

[@Jiimy8me]

lol at no solidified magma tiles..... ive been building along with your videos and nearly all of the magma under my metal plates has solidified :|

[@jigorkij]

You could also start deep freezing your storage, water would solidify into ice and sweeper would be able to remove it. BTW i wonder if chlorine will be able to freeze your food quickly enough as it has terrible temperature exchange stats. For me, i prefer to build tile under food from aluminium and cool that tile.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

We have to observe that, could be that we have to exchange one tile with a metal one.

[@danielworden]

Googling kitchen builds only to find a guy whose "Ultimate Kitchen" starts off with a Microbe Musher at Cycle 1k+...

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

You seem to forget that Berry Sludge is made in the Musher.

[@Garueri]

im stealing that thanks

[@devilmaycry1980]

I think the issue was you needed ladders to build the shute. I believe the angles are weird so you have to be like two tiles away on the diagonal or something to build it.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

This has been fixed and isn't possible anymore I've been told.

[@disbeafakename167]

The water didn't swap sides just to annoy you, it went AWAY from the dupe doing the pushing.

[@matthewdunstone4431]

I’m not clear on why you wanted the micromusher. It produces morale-crushing food.

[@slidexztv9727]

Berry sludge is arguably the best food in the game

[@aerofolly193]

Berry Sludge becomes the best item for space exploration, as it does not spoil. It basically only has that single usage, but it is worth it

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Berry Sludge rules!;)

[@Leorin13]

Haha...I love it when the game drives you nuts^^ (isch doch wie im echte lebe...es lauft nöd immer so wie mer möcht und wenn mer glück het, het mer sich ufgregt für nüt^^)

[@Elmekior]

I don't play this game much myself anymore. But for the food storage, couldn't you also have built like a 4 tiles "l" shape with a mini-gas pump and then just cap the hole diagonally from where you floor tile is ?

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Yea that would have worked too.

[@StuicideDesigns]

The fact your "Stressed" and "pleasantly surprised" *GASPS* are the same both trigger me... and make me laugh until my belly hurts. HUE

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@immersiveirl6638]

Long-term food storage is an excellent place to use an Air Conditioner (and a hydrogen loop). Also, if you put the storage _under_ the griller you can fit everything into range of one autosweeper (may need to make stoarge 2-cells deep, though).

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Yeah I was considering making the floors higher for that reason. I will switch to another cooling solution when the biome doesn't provide enozgh chill anymore.

[@juanpablosotorojas7319]

When creating beach deep freeze storage the chute doesnt need to be in vacuum, just needs to allow bleachstone to offgas, wich will replace oxygen or otherwise eventually. makes it much easier, hope it helps for next time :^)

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

The bleach stone will not replace the oxygen if the pressure is already so high. It needs to be very little. We had nearly 2kg:(

[@tomx_pl7760]

You can use pipes to connect living module with refinery. You can leave the pipes afterwards for cooling/heating of the base, but connecting it to refinery coolant output first would initially warm it up

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@iteagle03]

You might consider removing the pneumatic door that you have as an entrance to your nature reserve which will expand the nature reserve to include your front entrance to your new base.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

The door is there so the pip doesn't escape;)

[@JulieanGalak]

Had the same struggle getting the O2 out of my deep freezer. Tried every angle of approach, just couldn't build the chute diagonally. Finally did it the same way - tiny liquid lock. Working very nicely now.

[@JulieanGalak]

Though I did my cooling a different way - used a gas cooling loop with H2, using a thermo regulator. Brought it to deep freeze nearly instantly, but it generates so little heat, that 30-40 cycles later the water (a tiny 3x2 tank) around the regulator is only at like 30C, nowhere near enough to bring up the dedicated steam turbine. And the regulator only clicks on very occasionally for a few moments (probably when new food is dumped in). Very efficient system, I think.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Yeah it will take long to make steam by cooling your food;)

[@slidexztv9727]

The concept is great but you will probably want your food sitting on a tile that helps it exchange heat much more efficiently, currently sitting on ceramic it only has the low conductivity of chlorine which probably won’t be able to keep up with the temperature of the cooked food

[@ahmataevo]

It would be better to chill the food to -20C and then send it to a vacuum room/tile sitting on a mesh tile. That way it cannot exchange heat, ever.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I'll keep that in mind, I was thinking with a tile that exchanges heat I'm doing an aweful lot of chilling that's wasted into the room.

[@zecorezecron]

You should have it so that both autosweepers can reach all the cooking stations, but have it so that one can only put it in the conveyor loader and one can only take it out of the deep freeze tile, but neither can do both. That way the kitchen can be fully automated.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

It is fully automated now even if some tasks can be done by both sweepers.

[@zecorezecron]

​@@Nathans-Sandbox The oven can't be loaded directly from the deep freeze chlorine box is what I meant. Looking over it, your way works, but it'll looks like the system will clog if you get too much excess ingredients. So depending on what you plan feed the dupes, you might end up filing that right hand fridge with too much of one ingredients (I forget what you feed them, but as far as I know all top tier foods need two ingredients) unless you are very, very good at balancing crop yields. Allowing the sweeper to load the cooking stations from your chlorine box directly prevents that issue. Of course if you are just feeding them stuff that can be made with only a single ingredient, it'll work perfectly.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I see, you're right. I'll consider that when it comes to the implementation, thanks for the tip!

[@pikolino210]

Nathan, as for the nature reserve, pips plant from right to left and from top to bottom - you need to remove all plants and put ladders above them, except the one at the very right. Once the pip has planet there, remove the next ladder closest to its left and continue, one step at a time.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I had the right tile ready for many cycles and it didn't plant it. Could it still be that it's closw together or does it just take a really long time?

[@pikolino210]

@@Nathans-Sandbox no, it's because other plants had already been planted first

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Ah they plant from right to left, I read it wrong, but I tried both options, it always stopped at 3 plants. Someone mentioned it could be because of the plant in the bedroom above.

[@medkarimabouda5062]

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[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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