TESTED: Hornady 110gr A-Tip 6mm Bullets

[@Ultimatereloader]

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[@Adamhawk1994]

Why is the diameter .264 if it’s a .243/6mm bullet?

[@joeldubose5762]

That is the absolute most consistent bullet that I've worked with.

[@rodkirt9273]

I have been working on loads for my Winchester 264 Mag rifle for 60 years . I have found that velocity is the key aspect for accuracy . Each different bullet weight and shape has its own “ sweet velocity “ for the best accuracy ; for each individual gun’s barrel .

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

I have found that heavy for caliber bullets usually like a slower powder, sometimes it can be hard to find load data for certain cartridges using the powder/ bullet combo so you end up having to extrapolate some info from other cartridges and do more load development.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Hi everyone- .264 bullet diameter was an error! Actual average diameter was 0.2427" and all data is available in the article: bit.ly/3fGmZhD

[@novak7893]

What was the micrometer you used to measure those at 14:40? I'd like to get one.

[@lances2380]

6x47 Lapua is my favorite owned caliber, I run 37.0 gr of IMR 4451 with Hornady 110 gr Match bullet and Lapua brass, it works well for my custom gun.

[@jonlennon3348]

Welcome to Travis, its always better with more people who like the same game you play.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Well said!

[@stephenhair5501]

Welcome Travis. Good stuff here. Impressed with those Hornady bullets!!

[@long-range-eliminator]

This is the top channel gavin has for sharing info.

[@SharpShooterCO]

Awesome as always, welcome Travis, good to see great minds working together to achieve greatness! Looking forward to more testing 😀

[@Leethal1]

Those bullets look very interesting👍 Welcome to the Ultimate Reloader family Travis!

[@EagleEyeShooting]

Got quite a bit of 6x47L data. N550 has been the best performer at 36.4gr. Running DTac's 115gr with 1/4 MOA at 1K. I believe these A-Tips will perform well in this cartridge also

[@Ultimatereloader]

Thanks Kenny!!!

[@mikehoshall6150]

Welcome Travis. Look forward to future video’s.

[@unclebob540i3]

0.264? Are we measuring 6mm or 6.5s? Really looking forward to testing out the .243. I think you will have better results with it than the 6mm CM.

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

Confused on measurements also...?

[@seshamblin788]

I thought the same thing

[@heinrichstoltz1356]

More great bullets from Hornady. I’ll be following your journey down this dimly illuminated rabbit hole. 👍🏻

[@lifewithabe312]

My seekins precision in 6mm creedmoor shoots .280 moa at 100 with a-tips and 41,3 grains of h4350 it shot a triplicate of 3021 fps over the magneto with nosler brass and 210 match primers

[@justinvandee2008]

Welcome Travis and good shooting

[@RumblestripDotNet]

Soooo I'm missing something here. You had bad harmonics using the MagnetoSpeed. OK. Why not take it off and use the Lab Radar rather than chambering a whole new barrel?

[@thompsonjerry3412]

Because he could

[@lifewithabe312]

Right?

[@TexasTrained]

That's the problem with any Chrono attached to the barrel. It changes the Harmonics as well as Point Of Impact. Lab Radar may miss catching a bullet every now and then. If it does I just shoot shoot an extra one to make my count. Atleast I don't have to do anything so drastic as mentioned above

[@lifewithabe312]

@@TexasTrained you don’t have to something as drastic if you just get your speeds and then shoot your groups… it’s ridiculous how this does not as up to some people

[@TexasTrained]

@@lifewithabe312 swhen your POI changes you have to revert...even if you have real good groups ..With.LabRadar it's not necessary and no worry about Harmonics either

[@farmerdave9312]

Always good info I'll be looking out for the 243 vid

[@stevedunphy5365]

Hope the diameter of the 6mm projectiles weren't actually 0.264". 😕

[@bradboe1901]

I thought the same thing?

[@Ultimatereloader]

Thanks for the catch- that was a copy and paste error in the spreadsheet - will be corrected in article - average diameter reading was 0.2427 :)

[@Zircon10]

Once honed in on bullet, powder, powder weight, is there any consideration on bullet jump? How far off the lands were you with Dasher and Creedmore?

[@colemanpreston3462]

I thought I couldn't be the only one who noticed that haha

[@IWatchedWhat]

I am glad I wasn't the only one that saw that.

[@ron-finchjewelers1197]

I’m wondering if you have any interest in a comparison of 6.5,6.0,and 22 Creedmoor? Discussion about the virtues of each and the best game for each

[@MikeJones-iy3hf]

It’s fine obsessing over the theoretical details , but there’s nothing to beat seeing the load being shot at a bench , with a target camera and load details printed on the target .

[@ptm4view]

Just a thought on the howa 1500. I had accuracy issues with mine until I read about some 1500's suffer from poor recoil lug engagement. I marked mine with a black marker and after cycling the action a few times one lug had about 90% engagement while the other lug had around than 10% on the top corner. That caused the bolt to torque when fired and adding a weight to the barrel could make it worse. I lapped the lugs and transformed the rifle from 2 MOA to 1/2 MOA. I'm curious how your rifes lugs are with an after market barrel and if you have ever lapped the lugs? Just a thought on the howa 1500. I had accuracy issues with mine until I read about some 1500's suffer from poor recoil lug engagement. I marked mine with a black marker and after cycling the action a few times one lug had about 90% engagement while the other lug had around than 10% on the top corner. That caused the bolt to torque when fired and adding a weight to the barrel could make it worse. I lapped the lugs and transformed the rifle from 2 MOA to 1/2 MOA. I'm curious how your rifes lugs are with an after market barrel and if you have ever lapped the lugs?

[@bpintogsxr1000]

I have a 6 GT. Same type of results. Speed it likes is between 2800-2830. Single digit SD’s.

[@conservativesniperhunter7439]

G’day and welcome to Travis another 243 Winchester owner like me 👍. I’d like to see what type of 243 Winchester rifle Travis owns 🤔 , is it a sporting/hunting rifle or is it a PRS/Tactical type ? We’ll have to wait and see 😄.

[@cacinaz8802]

Previous vids have shown the dasher to be extremely accurate. I felt like you gave half a loaf here, though. No talk of seating depth adjustments - or will that be in a future vid?

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

Ya I don’t get it, I think he’s just really excited about his new friend and got side tracked

[@cacinaz8802]

@@taylorbokshowan5713 Pretty lonely up there on the mountain LOL?

[@Eric-qu3ht]

Also, ES has little impact on group size at 100 yards - should be mostly about harmonics. And a bullet will show strengths or weaknesses at long range. Perhaps the title of this vid should be "Having a fun time with my friend"?

[@jeffreywilson690]

I'm shooting 243 win/ rpr/100 grain to 115 grain

[@caseymac2287]

I love long range and dirt bikes too!!!! Can I be your guy's friend?

[@PC-vq5ud]

Please do a build on 6mm GT!

[@kellyrick8201]

Welcome

[@paulvenn4447]

5:08 that wall of projies

[@bobpayne6949]

great video; keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!

[@mrt1320]

What is the sensitivity to twist on the bullet? What twist is are barrels? By the way on your other sesion you were wondering about twist. A cleaning rod marked at 12" and centerline of rod marked, push down and count the rotations until the 12" mark is encountered.

[@brianvoegeli5067]

Great info show me the 243

[@seanwhite304]

Love to see the 110g A-TIP in 6mm ARC. I'm super curious if 20" 6ARC with 110g A-TIP can achieve 2600 - 2650 FPS . If so that would make super viable 1000 yard cartridge

[@Jtmorrison2000]

Probably in a bolt gun. In a 20” AR, I’m running a Berger 105 at 2609 and it’s pretty much at max pressure with 27.3g varget. Could maybe milk another .5gr with cci450 but don’t have any to try.

[@seanwhite304]

@@Jtmorrison2000 I'm getting 2538 FPS out of my 16" 6ARC with factory Hornady Black

[@Jtmorrison2000]

@@seanwhite304 yea, factory black in my rifle was 2655. Haven’t found a powder that shoots as well as varget yet. Cfe 223 and lvr both had higher velocity but accuracy and SD wasn’t near as good. Ended up settling for a slower load that was .458” instead of a faster 1”+ load

[@seanwhite304]

@@Jtmorrison2000 I have not worked up hand load yet but I have all intentions of doing so . I really wish I could find some more Hornady 106G TAP . I have CUSTOM Criterion 16" Barrel with 1in8 Twist. It loves the 103g - 106g

[@Jtmorrison2000]

@@seanwhite304 mine likes 103-105 best as well. Eld-x shot good, but just settled on the Berger 105 Hunter. Little better bc and can be swapped for the target and not affect dope.

[@RileyD691]

I’ve noticed you shooting for groups with your magnetospeed. I’ve gotten groups to open up with mine attached with known accurate loads. Not just POI shift. Does it work for you running thicker barrels or what gives? Just curious

[@Tfox31]

That is a variable with each system. Even the big thick barrels can be effected by this.

[@TommyboyGTP]

People on the 6.5 Creedmoor Facebook page will be using this match bullet to hunt elk at 1,000 yards and say it's better than any hunting bullet they've ever used.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Impressive. Outstanding. Good stuff

[@KretinD]

Nice 👍 I’ve been waiting for this one.

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks men for the video Enjoyed it.

[@spldrong]

love the OCDness

[@ssswdon]

So what kind of dirt bike do you ride I have a 2000 CR500 and it rocks

[@Ultimatereloader]

Nice bike!!!! I currently ride a KTM 450EXC as a dualsport

[@johnshoureas1629]

@@Ultimatereloader WOW ! I kinda like my 250 Bultaco Alpina.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Sweet!

[@JimWooddell]

Why are you not running radar for your velocity data?

[@bobpena1490]

Be nice to see a 6 prc..

[@bigseddo4036]

I’m running 110gr atips at 2800 in my Dasher

[@Ultimatereloader]

Nice! Are you liking them?

[@ZZ-uf4zv]

Sounds like a little bit of an unfair head to head using premium brass, and a full custom barrel and action on the dasher and not so on the creed.. Also a difference in presses used as well.. I know its not actually a head to head point your trying to make, it just would have been more competitive using all of the same grade level of components and rifle parts.

[@Ultimatereloader]

No, not fair at all. Working with the rifles I have in the shop :)

[@williampoynton7323]

Hi Great video. I missed what primers were used. I would be interested to know.

[@jamesstewart9970]

You were way low on charge weight, I’m at 42.6 with H4350 with a 24” barrel and right at 3100fps with Peterson LRP brass and cci br4 primers with an oal of 2.820” and accuracy in the .2s from my 6creed.

[@br4713]

Hi, I dont know what's the price in USA, but in my country 1 single ATip bullet costs 1 euro !!! Way too expensive for me

[@MrDarkSky176]

mate thanks for the great vids do you have a video on a good reloading a setup for noobs to reloading 6mm CM

[@drtywk]

How are these in comparison to the 6mm Berger 109's?

[@jimmoseley2983]

Have you tried hunting with the A-tips? I also found that the 108 eldm with 42.0 grs of V-100 give me groups under a 1/10 with the best at .03. 243/29" Krieger barrel 7.7 twist. I have some 190 A-tips but I don't think my 7mag has the case capacity to push the bullet properly. I'm building a 7x300 win mag which should be ready in May. It will push the 190 with authority. Great video! Thanks

[@christhurston4610]

Running the 190's out of my 7mm mag. 68.4 grains of H1000 is getting me 2964 fps out of a 26" 1 in 8 twist barrel. Made hits out to 2100 yards with it so far.

[@jimmoseley2983]

@@christhurston4610 That's impressive Chris. Thanks for the info. What's your longest kill shot with the 190?

[@georgehager4248]

Why the Zero over the Prazi??

[@mikeriksheim1087]

.264" 6mm?

[@robertsherrick6276]

How good are they at 500yds and a 1000 yds ??

[@Tfox31]

Should be awesome given the small groups we are getting at 100. Will be going longer very soon!

[@robertsherrick6276]

I get small groups at 100 yards but they open up at 200 so I figured at 500 will be more and at a 1000 even more so is there a way to get groups at a longer range

[@kentolson3478]

Try SW Precision Rifle

[@treece1]

How think it would do in 1/8 barrel?

[@Ruggedpony6arc]

6mm arc

[@jeffreywilson690]

Try 7828 ssc or h1000

[@Peace-ju9us]

what do you think of these in the 6mm ARC ??

[@winklers12]

Wondering also

[@georgeholt8929]

For the benefit of a new shooter watching this video for the first time, can you explain what all the measurements represent ie SD and ES. Also it should be understood that these Hornady bullets are usually twice the cost of similar weight bullets made by Berger or bullets made by GS Customs turned on a lathe bullets. Perhaps you can compare these Hornady A-Tips with the Tubbs Rebated Boat tail 6mm that David Tubbs designed.

[@waynehendrix4806]

George, I'm surprised to not see an answer from anyone else here. I'm not great at explaining this, but the SD represents Standard Deviation. This would be the statistical chaos in the organization of the values, whether velocity or points of impact. ES , or Extreme Spread, would represent the most outlying spread of the values. You might have a great SD (group) but one flyer that would make the Extreme Spread "larger". Again, I'm not a statistics expert, and usually saw these numbers as CP and CPK for the automation equipment industry, where I spent some good years. They are roughly the ways of seeing a process reliability or repeatability (CP), and then considering how it does in reaching a target value group in addition (CPK). Just realized I need more statistics training. Best of luck.

[@georgeholt8929]

@@waynehendrix4806 Wayne, Thank You for your explanation to my Comments. But I would hope the creators of these Videos would add this sort of explanation within their explaining what they discovered while testing the item in their video. I personally know these terms, but there are bound to be new viewers who watch a video like this one we which is clearly not designed for the new reloader, or the new long distance shooter. Like reading a load manual there is the introduction section and there it may explain these terms for the new reloader. Then there is the glossary that can expand the meaning of the same ballistic terms which have meaning to someone using an means to measure ones fired bullets as they leave their rifle barrel. Without such tools these terms have little meaning. The new shooter, reloading his own should know this. So they can eventually purchase these tools. Thank you for your explanation I hope there will be new shooters and reloader’s reading the comments section, as we do.

[@waynehendrix4806]

@@georgeholt8929 Thank you George. I was thinking you were not new to the language, but also surprised it wasn't given about 30 seconds of explanation during the video. That said, I work for a larger company that throws around 5 letter acronyms around all the time, and doesn't realize that there wasn't a worldwide press release on what they mean. (We're probably worse than the US dept of the Army on that.) I tend to believe that it was unintentional in this case, but agree the questioning of it may add value to the content creator, and the consumers of the content. Happy trails. W

[@tacticalrabbit308]

Wonder how those would work in say a 6mm Remington shell ? Hint I'm looking for a gun in that caliber!

[@Grumpyoleguy]

You need to watch twist rates with this bullet. I think the 6mm Rem had 10" twist as well as some 12" twist which would not stabilize that bullet.

[@dhbikerczar]

Have you built on the BAT 3L yet?

[@Ultimatereloader]

Not yet! Hope to!

[@dhbikerczar]

@@Ultimatereloader I've been pondering the 6 dasher on a 3L action (setup single shot) with a bartlin heavy contour barrel and either a March 5-40 or NF NX8. Hopefully you will build on this action soon. :)

[@thompsonjerry3412]

You have jumped the shark, my God ,a half MOA is bad, give me a break!

[@michaelmilen9032]

Get Travis a Tee shirt...

[@markp127]

How can a bullet made for 6mm (.243) have a 6.5 mm diameter, (.264)? Am I missing something?

[@Ultimatereloader]

See pinned comment :)

[@chevyon37s]

Go help the Backfire guys accurize/ fix their POS Mossberg rifle!

[@eisenshift5930]

Just a thought. but unless you need to be using magneto speed get a lab radar :) works a lot better. no potential harmonic issues due to hanging something off your barrel.

[@ETsBees]

If only you would choose better music

[@derrickbunn9686]

.264? Really Tha 20thou oversize??

[@Ultimatereloader]

That was accidentally pasted over for another spreadsheet, the data is now corrected in the article!

[@derrickbunn9686]

@@Ultimatereloader Thanks Gavin. Always interesting, mate!

[@russellkeeling9712]

I understand looking at the group size of you rifle but you never try to get those groups in the ten ring. Why not?

[@kokonanana1]

Accuracy vs precision!!!

[@CJ-ty8sv]

As Bob Fast said, "Accuracy vs Precision" Accuracy is mostly a function of the optic and precision a function of everything else. One the combo is found that gives you the best precision, the accuracy of the POI (Point of Impact) can be adjusted with the optic.

[@waynehendrix4806]

@@CJ-ty8sv For sure. If you want to see someone squirm, ask a robot manufacturer about their Accuracy. They will always lead the conversation toward Repeatability.

[@nickrichardson2907]

Get a lab radar and throw the the magnito speed in the bin

[@tweekFPV]

👍👍

[@Dave5783]

Lolol Varget I not shooting or reloading with it, can't find it only place is gunbroker and everyone wants $130+ for it not going to pay that for it at one time they 999.00 for 8 lbs

[@bmxking6582]

You guys ride dirtbikes? OK I'm going to stereotype here, let me guess ktm?

[@holdleftedgeandsendit9351]

get them up around 2870 in the dasher thank me later 😉

[@chadwood4296]

Keep up the good work, love all your great info. Enjoy watching, (My wallet not so much) ..👍🏻

[@davidtasker6729]

You know dude I really love your vids, butt, it sometimes aggravates me. I can’t even get powder to reload for pistols let alone rifles. My local gun store, online always out. I could buy that powder In gunbroker and pay the gouges their pound of flesh but that is never going to happen, I’ll stop shooting before that happens. I’m really aggravated by this lack of service by these Companies who should be taking care of their customers but are not.

[@johnshoureas1629]

As long as people pay the gouges the longer the high prices will remain.

[@JR-lg7fd]

@david tasker You should start your own powder company and supply us all.

[@unclebob540i3]

@@johnshoureas1629 you nailed it. Prices will not come down as long as someone is willing to pay the stupid money..

[@waynehendrix4806]

I'm betting he was buying a little at a time for the shelf. If like me, it has been over the last 20 years. Coming late to the party - is no party at all , I admit.

[@jimklemens5018]

Your 6mm bullet can't measure 0.264 inches.

[@donaldgray4871]

U never satisfied

[@batmandeltaforce]

This is the round the military needs to adopt. But unfortunately, they are letting jar heads make decisions.

[@thestacche6898]

Not the best information or results.

[@ThatOneOkie]

Terrible audio.

[@outdoordoc1971]

Can a factory barreled Remington shoot the 110’s with the standard twist rate?

[@Mike-xi4zt]

@outdoordoc1971 when has Remington ever chambered a factory gun for 6mm Dasher?? Answer never. Factory 243 Win barrels are too slow twist rate to stabilize that bullet.

[@outdoordoc1971]

Hello Travis!