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ULTRA INSTINCT GOKU VS KEFLA!! | Dragon Ball Super Episode 115-116 Reaction

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Don Townsend

Don Townsend

2 ай бұрын

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@kairasendo1175
@kairasendo1175 2 ай бұрын
I love how he’s constantly talking about Goten and trunks like they’ve ever done ANYTHING USEFUL!
@nationwideris
@nationwideris 2 ай бұрын
Ong! I love them but they would absolutely get eliminated within the first 5 minutes 😭
@saifhussain9701
@saifhussain9701 2 ай бұрын
Innit🤣
@King_Ced
@King_Ced 2 ай бұрын
In superhero they kinda helped cracked cell max, as a fat version too, not even the perfect form lol
@magortom
@magortom 2 ай бұрын
​@@King_Cedand somehow forgot how to turn Super Saiyan, they strong but not reliable
@ibitten3754
@ibitten3754 2 ай бұрын
​@@magortomthey didn't forgot, they can't transform because of the failed fusion. In the manga they both fought as super saiyan before fusing
@lanevaldez180
@lanevaldez180 2 ай бұрын
He hit her so hard it replayed 3 different times!
@reinagarcia6520
@reinagarcia6520 2 ай бұрын
That's true
@hanyo5789
@hanyo5789 2 ай бұрын
ha haaa real
@endginuity8391
@endginuity8391 2 ай бұрын
Goated comment
@bryanpadilla1299
@bryanpadilla1299 2 ай бұрын
Only this and vegeta turning ssj got the rewind 😂
@MandalorianRevan
@MandalorianRevan 2 ай бұрын
You know a moment is beyond epic when it gets a Three-Peat.
@GiblenX
@GiblenX 2 ай бұрын
goten and trunks could fuse but if they messed up the dance they could be stuck skinny or fat for 30 min
@Kj-hz8le
@Kj-hz8le 2 ай бұрын
To be fair tiny trunks and goten never really failed fusion like when they fused against beerus
@chaosgod2586
@chaosgod2586 2 ай бұрын
@@Kj-hz8lebut in the super movie they did lol and they are older than what they are now
@GiblenX
@GiblenX 2 ай бұрын
@@Kj-hz8le I mean ye but beerus don't wanna risk his existence on children dancing
@user-ve9ro5sv2q
@user-ve9ro5sv2q 2 ай бұрын
I am Japanese. Gotenks' weakness is that he can go into SS3, but the SS3 state lasts about 5 minutes, or at most 10 minutes, so he is not suitable for battles that last nearly 50 minutes, such as the Tournament of Power.
@GiblenX
@GiblenX 2 ай бұрын
@@user-ve9ro5sv2q ye we know that much but the risk of messing up such a presise dance is not worth that little time either
@guillehdz
@guillehdz 2 ай бұрын
That sliding Kamehameha has to be the coldest move Goku has ever come up with❄️and that triple replay of the move was just the cherry on top, cameraman cooked🔥
@dryder7078
@dryder7078 2 ай бұрын
if the animators repeat a scene 3 times they already know that they are cooking
@Arunmozhisuresh
@Arunmozhisuresh 2 ай бұрын
16:29 i mean gods who training for millions of years to achieve this technique but goku got it like minutes that's why beerus had that face.
@dryder7078
@dryder7078 2 ай бұрын
yeah, i think beerus is a god for 100 million years by now and still hasnt mastered ultra instinct. Goku trained for it what? Like 1 year, two years? (If you consider all the whis training as preparation). Btw: I am actively excluding all the training goku did before meeting whis as beerus probably was a top tier fighter and one of the strongest mortals in the multiverse before he even became a god
@jefflopez6500
@jefflopez6500 22 күн бұрын
He trained more with Meerus to actually master it. He can't use it again after tournament of power until moro arc
@Lil-ProNk
@Lil-ProNk 2 ай бұрын
I love that Universe 6 completely forgot about Vegeta 😂
@rez2tootrill
@rez2tootrill 2 ай бұрын
You gotta understand bro, this is literally called the Tournament of Power . Every body here is strong in their own way . Also remember Goku been fighting while tired, breaking his limits every time . Thats literally the reason he kept being able to transform into his other forms even after being tired . Also Vegeta and Goku both achieved SSB at the same time . Goku didnt get that form before Vegeta they both had trained and got it at the same time .
@dryder7078
@dryder7078 2 ай бұрын
yeah, imagine your regeneration is so good you actually recover while fighting xD
@rez2tootrill
@rez2tootrill 2 ай бұрын
@@dryder7078 lmao man 💯🤣
@dankerbell
@dankerbell Ай бұрын
idk if u9 were that strong though... people complain that everyone in the tournament is blue level but it's really not true, most of them get cooked by ssj2 level power, base goku was holding off ribrianne and vegeta used ssj1 against her
@rez2tootrill
@rez2tootrill 4 күн бұрын
@@dankerbell right but this is years of Goku and Vegeta training their base forms so every time they transform their literally multiplying what their base power is .
@AndreaLee-to2eb
@AndreaLee-to2eb 2 ай бұрын
Gohan & Kefla in the manga are evenly matched in the tournament against each other.
@dankerbell
@dankerbell Ай бұрын
that's because kefla was weaker not that gohan was as strong as anime kefla unfortunately
@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo
@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo 2 ай бұрын
Goku defeating Kefla was Toriyama saying "Goku doesn't need to fuse with Vegeta to get through the T.O.P."
@NickEclipse
@NickEclipse 2 ай бұрын
Nah, I remember clear as day my reaction whenever Goku smooth criminally slid over her final blast I think I was… 17? And I had did a barrel roll in my bed knocking over my laptop in hype🤣🤣 that was too mf cold
@nightjin9518
@nightjin9518 2 ай бұрын
Man fr said f**k piccolo and krillin xD
@SomeKindaHero117
@SomeKindaHero117 14 күн бұрын
Bro, Gotenks would have been a perfect pick. The ToP is 48 minutes and the fusion dance lasts 30 minutes, send them in as a glass cannon tbh! Much better pick than other options!
@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris
@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris 2 ай бұрын
First I am dying from Frieza cheering for Goku like that, then to just have the Zenos talking.
@Teib_21
@Teib_21 2 ай бұрын
BTW DBS isn't over yet, altough Toriyama's passed, the writer Toyotaro is still going, Toriyama provided the guidelines, but Toyotaro writes the story, dialogue and drawings.
@dankerbell
@dankerbell Ай бұрын
i wonder how much of an outline he did, there must be a reason the anime stopped at the tournament, and if he went past end of z since super hero is only a year before it. either way i hope he did it for a while because if people don't like it they'll only get mad at toyotaro since toriyama is gone
@TrashyJayys
@TrashyJayys 2 ай бұрын
He didn’t transfer it into his own energy he used it to replenish his depleted body. In other words he was so depleted that the energy from the spirit bomb was used to replenish that
@dankerbell
@dankerbell Ай бұрын
ye which is funny because he realised that with episode 110
@jamesryan099
@jamesryan099 2 ай бұрын
vegito and kefla doing the fusion dance to become one person would be amazing.
@kazechaotic5432
@kazechaotic5432 2 ай бұрын
I was working at Walmart and they put this part on the Biggest TVs in the store, we went NUTS when he skated on her shit😭
@Quzema
@Quzema 2 ай бұрын
Beerus was a little unhappy , because he himself hasn't mastered it yet. Tho that doesn't make him stronger than beerus since beerus in his base is like million times stronger than goku and we are yet to see beerus's full power.
@andrewwill8368
@andrewwill8368 2 ай бұрын
Isn't blue stronger than beerus
@Quzema
@Quzema 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewwill8368 lol , beerus eats blue without even noticing. Black frieza one shotted mastered ui and ue and he is thinking about challenging beerus
@andrewwill8368
@andrewwill8368 2 ай бұрын
@@Quzema but if super saying God can go up against beeurs, isn't super saying blue stronger than God so that can also fight beerus
@chazo1367
@chazo1367 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewwill8368 sure but Beerus is still far more powerful. Against Goku, Beerus didn’t ever go full power, not even close as he said. Beerus is meant to be an insurmountable wall for Goku at this time
@andrewwill8368
@andrewwill8368 2 ай бұрын
@@chazo1367 What about goku ui or jiren
@DarkClaw0912
@DarkClaw0912 Ай бұрын
25:55 - Bro, its usually Vegeta needing to catch up to Goku.🤣
@kingpin201
@kingpin201 2 ай бұрын
My favorite part, Goku riding that Kamehameha over her blast like a skateboard!
@LordBovyn
@LordBovyn 2 ай бұрын
Goku really got don acting up😂
@Eternalsfan
@Eternalsfan 2 ай бұрын
Lord Beerus isn’t happy with Goku achieving Ultra Instinct twice because he is jealous that he can’t.
@mennaelkhateeb4386
@mennaelkhateeb4386 2 ай бұрын
He can but he didn't master it yet and he's mad because he's a god who trained millions of years to only achieve it not even master it and Goku achieved it in only 42 years
@Eternalsfan
@Eternalsfan 2 ай бұрын
@@mennaelkhateeb4386 You’re correct. I had forgotten about that fact.
@afropunkx
@afropunkx 2 ай бұрын
The spirit bomb energy broke his ceiling, the kefla fight just pushed him into that state. They are different, but I doubt Kefla would have triggered it without the Spirit bomb happening first. Also this is the most beautiful Kamehameha in all of dragon ball.
@fplnerd2149
@fplnerd2149 2 ай бұрын
bro sounded like a nokia 3310 doing that growl😂😂
@khakanali5978
@khakanali5978 2 ай бұрын
0:03 frieza ah laugh😂
@ManyJaz
@ManyJaz 2 ай бұрын
he has written so much more after super ended, plus the manga is going to continue since he was only giving the ok for the manga before he died so he already has dragon ball under the hands of someone he trusts and it will continue to drop more chapters
@Laoruperteen18
@Laoruperteen18 2 ай бұрын
Ultra Instinct is a form that anyone can achieve in theory, its not a Saiyan power, its a state of body and mind where all focus is on the battle, like when you Get Into The Zone when you are trying to do something, and it just flows and works, Ultra Instinct is just that state, but in total control of it, like taking control of your own lucid dreaming. But Saiyans are capable of absorbing and adopting different energy types and symbiotically merging it with their own Saiyan energy, like SSJ God is a gifted power provided by other Saiyans, and then SSJ Blue is that same God Energy mixed with Super Saiyan energy, so in other words, Kefla cant go SSJ Blue unless she has been gifted God Energy, to then later fuse it with Super energy. But SSJ3 is totally something she could pull off, Caulifla went from Base Saiyan to Legendary Fused SSJ2 in the space of two days, a total prodigy, and Kale is a freak of nature.
@user-ij4ce1kd8s
@user-ij4ce1kd8s 2 ай бұрын
Umm you do realise there's two ways of achieving SSJ God, one which you already mentioned gifted power by other saiyans, and the other way which is what Vegeta did was train to learn god ki from whis to achieve SSJ God.
@graysteel
@graysteel 2 ай бұрын
@@user-ij4ce1kd8swhich you can just boil down to the og point, of only being able to have god ki by absorbing it. Either by a short ritual, or longer training with others who have god ki
@Zenkai.L
@Zenkai.L Ай бұрын
19:17 Whis was yapping about how when goku first absorbed the spirit bomb Kelfa at her peak form was equivalent. So when goku went UI again he shattered through another barrier and was in a stronger UI it looks like Goku(Spirit bomb UI)=Kelfa(Legendary Super Sayain)
@ChocolateFishBrains
@ChocolateFishBrains Ай бұрын
Don't worry, Vegeta does indeed catch up to Goku again. In his own unique form.
@WeareCreative360
@WeareCreative360 2 ай бұрын
Goku "skating" off of Kelfa's blast, then hitting her with his was definitely top tier moment!
@ghostlybroccoli8982
@ghostlybroccoli8982 2 ай бұрын
I remember those theories that said goku uses defensive ultra instinct and vegeta will use offensive ultra instinct and then they will fuse to “master it” and defeat jiren
@Music-rl1ll
@Music-rl1ll 2 ай бұрын
I forgot about those theroies but I recall hearing that a lot when super first aired.
@ghostlybroccoli8982
@ghostlybroccoli8982 2 ай бұрын
@@Music-rl1ll yeah! And people talked a lot more about that on the episode where vegeta landed a punch on jiren
@dankerbell
@dankerbell Ай бұрын
i'm really hoping there are fans out there that haven't seen ultra ego but it's still probably well known enough that it won't break the internet like ui did, hope it still gets a good theme though
@WuMyth
@WuMyth 2 ай бұрын
kinda cool how he makes it so there zero need ot watch the vid lol, everyone got what they came for in first 10 seconds
@Mikeyprs21
@Mikeyprs21 2 ай бұрын
Literally what I thought but I watched it anyway haha!
@dumash534
@dumash534 2 ай бұрын
34:51 17 minutes left and we be watching it in like hours 💀
@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo
@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo 2 ай бұрын
I was shocked that Supreme Kai suggested that Androids 17 & 18 should fuse and he gave their hypothetical fusion name "Android 35"
@SimpleChipling
@SimpleChipling 2 ай бұрын
It cracked me up when you said ultra instinct fusion 😂
@JordanSimons-mt4iz
@JordanSimons-mt4iz 2 ай бұрын
14:42 secretly dash him a senzu 😅😅😅😅
@alleycat3449
@alleycat3449 2 ай бұрын
peak finishing move in dbz, the 720 railgrind kamehameha
@Mikeyprs21
@Mikeyprs21 2 ай бұрын
That UI kamehameha to Kefla's face is probably by far the darkest move I think any fighter has pulled off in a fight in the DB verse.
@thealmightycinderblock6478
@thealmightycinderblock6478 2 ай бұрын
The manga is two arcs ahead of the anime and the anime doesn't appear to be getting an adaptation any time soon so I'd recommend watching a summary of them after the ToP :) Also the ToP and Goku black arcs in the manga are quite different so you might want to check that out too!
@amadujalo8914
@amadujalo8914 2 ай бұрын
It’s 3 arcs she’s going into it’s 4th
@ridleyelliott3804
@ridleyelliott3804 2 ай бұрын
Beerus has a fear for Saiyans... He was the one who ordered Frieza to destroy planet Vegita
@WastedGTAZ
@WastedGTAZ 2 ай бұрын
Stop Tien and Krillin hate, but anyways, difference between potara and fusion dance, is in the fusion dance you have to match each other’s power level, where as the potara doesn’t require that, so Gokhan could’ve been a thing in this ark, but saiyans would rather have the dignity of fighting as one and having that satisfaction, rather than having to fuse and having their fusion take someone down.
@isaachener9687
@isaachener9687 Ай бұрын
Theoretically its possible for many people to fuse with the dance. But with the earings its only 2 people
@Godzilla664-j9w
@Godzilla664-j9w 24 күн бұрын
Bro she was tallking to much smack bro fr 😂😂😂😂
@ja711rich8
@ja711rich8 2 ай бұрын
After seeing goten and trunks vs buu it makes sense why they weren't picked
@jackpowell9276
@jackpowell9276 2 ай бұрын
Watching this with your hype is better than the original lol. And The AUI music is goated.
@KingT1._
@KingT1._ 2 ай бұрын
The manga is still going, toriyama has someone else that he trusted to continue the manga for him if he ever retired or passed away, the guys name is toyotaro
@koolbreeze831
@koolbreeze831 2 ай бұрын
Kefla was was too cocky for someone who just learned to go Super Sayian against someone who had it mastered for years
@IAMJORDI0117
@IAMJORDI0117 2 ай бұрын
Beerus getting like that because that’s a form that he has not attained yet
@gen.mayhem981
@gen.mayhem981 2 ай бұрын
I think Berus was getting miffed about Goku getting Ultra again was because he now realizes Goku is a genuine threat to him
@ceruleanwalker1069
@ceruleanwalker1069 Ай бұрын
Man roars like a dragon when he finishes her. Pause.
@user-ve9ro5sv2q
@user-ve9ro5sv2q 2 ай бұрын
I am Japanese. Gotenks' weakness is that he can go into SS3, but the SS3 state lasts about 5 minutes, or at most 10 minutes, so he is not suitable for battles that last nearly 50 minutes, such as the Tournament of Power.
@burbusburbus8782
@burbusburbus8782 2 ай бұрын
Beerus is mad because goku is unlocking ultra instinct at a faster rate than him
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous 2 ай бұрын
Beerus can also do a form of UI. But not to the same degree as Goku. He's anxious because its something that not even he himself has mastered. As however the form appears is heavily based upon one's mastery of oneself.
@flames3123
@flames3123 2 ай бұрын
Ultra instinct is a technique, not a form. Also the other destroyers can't learn it and/or it's hard for them to learn it because a destroyer must always think of destroying in order for their destroyer powers to work. Where as Ultra Instinct is a technique which demands its users to be fully and completely emotionless and detached (please correct me if I'm wrong). Also ultra instinct has many higher levels of power and with the mastery Goku has over it until now, he won't be able to best a destroyer in a serious fight
@kiravermilion6718
@kiravermilion6718 2 ай бұрын
Goku destroy Kefla with the Kamehameha so much 😂😂😂😂
@danieldasilva3068
@danieldasilva3068 2 ай бұрын
They made Kefla so over powered 🙄 Still …this episode gave me goosebumps for the first time since DBZ. That 3x replay of Goku’s blast was a masterpiece
@killjoy362
@killjoy362 2 ай бұрын
For reference. Goku was so drained. In the mamga gohan defeated kefla
@chazo1367
@chazo1367 2 ай бұрын
You can’t fuse two fusions as far as I know, or would probably cause issues with the split up or something. Would be fun to have Vegito and Kefla merge though. Jiren would definitely respond to that.
@Nicksabobe
@Nicksabobe 2 ай бұрын
Technically he did absorb it but I’m pretty sure it was the energies clashing against EACHOTHER that broke his limit
@famguy292
@famguy292 2 ай бұрын
21:54 The Super manga continues after this. There is also a new anime series coming out this year called Dragon Ball Daima that Toriyama wrote the story for. It is a shame he will not get to see it air.
@Quas08
@Quas08 2 ай бұрын
Coldest Kamehameha in all of Dragon ball
@callumthecat2001
@callumthecat2001 2 ай бұрын
There will be more super, Toriyama had some stuff before he died and i feel like he won't leave us disappointed
@DoH-Shura
@DoH-Shura 2 ай бұрын
Super saiyan blue is all about power through extreme control. The reason people can “hang” with ssb is not bc they’re insanely strong but bc goku can be in ssb but lower his power level to krillins power level goku can stay in ssb but change how strong it is at any moment if he wants that’s why 17 could “hang” when the fought
@Tokin-Raccoon
@Tokin-Raccoon 2 ай бұрын
“Whoooooa!! We’re half way there!!! Whoooa-oh!!” 😏
@parrotlord7393
@parrotlord7393 2 ай бұрын
The problem with goten and trunks is that their SSJ3 can’t even hurt base form vegeta
@nationwideris
@nationwideris 2 ай бұрын
Don Vegeta doesn’t know the fusion dance at this point 😭 chill outttt wit it
@anthonydagod3968
@anthonydagod3968 2 ай бұрын
UK Dababy back at it again 😂
@marcossoto-ramirez3032
@marcossoto-ramirez3032 2 ай бұрын
You have to watch the manga adaptation on KZbin, in the expo for the TOP Beerus gets jumped by all the other destroyers for an expo for the Zenos. In the TOP, Roshi fights Jiren and gives Goku a final lesson on how to achieve UI. Crazy DB lore in the manga! Please read it 👀
@holdthepickle4205
@holdthepickle4205 2 ай бұрын
It takes millions and millions of years to even get ultra instinct sign Goku does it in a few minutes he's that GUY
@issacclavelo6395
@issacclavelo6395 2 ай бұрын
He beening training since og db
@nova17-gaming45
@nova17-gaming45 2 ай бұрын
Nah gogeta blue woulda run this tournament
@callumthecat2001
@callumthecat2001 2 ай бұрын
Goten and Trunks are still very in experienced for a large scale battle
@callumthecat2001
@callumthecat2001 2 ай бұрын
Goten and Trunks can't go super Saiyan 3 only while fused
@HarrizerEP
@HarrizerEP 2 ай бұрын
The manga currently spans two complete story arcs, in addition to a retelling of the Super Hero movie, which follows the narrative of the Tournament of Power. The series is presently on hiatus following the unfortunate passing of Akira Toriyama. Toyotarou, who has been designated as Toriyama’s successor , is now entrusted with the task of continuing the legacy by writing the forthcoming chapters of the story.
@somerandomoldguy4940
@somerandomoldguy4940 Ай бұрын
Manga made more sense with Kefla vs Gohan.
@kingkb54
@kingkb54 2 ай бұрын
The best way I can explain why he achieved Ultra Instinct again is that the Spirit Bomb already moved Goku's limit to the same level of that Spirit Bomb so he could already now achieve that level of power he can go past that there's a new level of power that is beyond their. And that level of power is ultra Instinct anything beyond the power of that Spirit bomb is basically Ultra instinct so if you look at it as a graph anything close to Goku's limit or Beyond can unlocked Ultra instinct. So fighting kefla someone that's making him reach his limit yet again is triggering ultra instinct because the door to ultra instinct is already open Goku just needs something to mentally trigger him to go beyond what he knows is his limit and that is ultra instinct
@mennaelkhateeb4386
@mennaelkhateeb4386 2 ай бұрын
The is like the best explanation from a DB fan
@Turbovolgz
@Turbovolgz 2 ай бұрын
This form broke the internet on several occasions on every server shown to this day nothing has come close to Autonomous ultra instinct
@Fresshasheck
@Fresshasheck 2 ай бұрын
Nice to see people enjoying what Akira left🙂
@jorbysold-4707
@jorbysold-4707 2 ай бұрын
these last episodes should the difference level between goku's forms
@Chrira235
@Chrira235 2 ай бұрын
Yes she still has a bangle! I don't think anyone ever really notices she still has it even in ssj
@reganmouton6958
@reganmouton6958 2 ай бұрын
Wait till bro sees the Moro & Granolah arc where vegita goes ultra ego hope it gets animated though
@Runner-Boy
@Runner-Boy 2 ай бұрын
Imagen they had the baki commentary guy to commentate this
@QuacklingTD
@QuacklingTD 2 ай бұрын
The manga gets crazy after the tournament of power
@Avv4U
@Avv4U 2 ай бұрын
Vegeta going on an other road
@SpectrePUBGM
@SpectrePUBGM 2 ай бұрын
21:40 Yeah manga is still on.
@Chrira235
@Chrira235 2 ай бұрын
There's still a TON the anime never covered after the ToP there's 3 arcs in the manga after this (including Super Hero)
@BiniBloom-iy5sm
@BiniBloom-iy5sm Ай бұрын
R.I.P Akira Toriyama, 1999 - 2024,
@CleversWhatsgood
@CleversWhatsgood Ай бұрын
Goku hit kefla with the skill based matchmaking
@ctrlaltsimp3667
@ctrlaltsimp3667 2 ай бұрын
Beerus meet riders will claim that he is always stronger than goku, but in the anime goku and jiren canonical surpassed him
@alanmartinez9073
@alanmartinez9073 2 ай бұрын
We need these daily bro I love em💯
@Whitrunable
@Whitrunable 2 ай бұрын
This bro don't know what happens, he needs the manga after this
@Jakkob37
@Jakkob37 2 ай бұрын
In theory 2 pairs could fuse with Potara then the Potara fused warriors could fusion dance🤷
@blehfaygo
@blehfaygo 2 ай бұрын
33:15 I’m crying bro 😭😭😭
@DuoMaxwell007
@DuoMaxwell007 2 ай бұрын
For the love of god I dont know how many times this needs to be said, but strength alone doesnt mean ANYTHING in this tournament, Goten and Trunks would get clapped because theyre INEXPERIENCED. TIen, Krillin and definitely Roshi could clap either one of them even if they fused. You noticed when they were fighting Buu all t hey did was play around and do immature stupid shit, made up special attacks instead of fighting for real and got clapped. Like Cell even said about their buff Super saiyabn forms, strength dont mean shit if you cant hit your target. Imagine a 6 year old had the strength to win ANY fight with one punch.... its still a 6 year old.. your telling me that you, as a normal adult human being couldnt stop that 6 year old from landing that punch and knock his ass out before he could touch you? That would be what having Goten and Trunks here would be like
@MegaNikaNika
@MegaNikaNika 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I was about to say something about this. And in an intense battle royale it would be very tough to smoothly pull off the fusion dance, and that would risk them to be in a weaker form for most of the tournament. I know that he is not going to believe that Tien nor Krillin and maybe not belive Roshi could beat Goten or Trunks. Then he is going to complain that why ChiChi and Bulma should let them train when they are fking kids. Also when training is not the same as experience.
@trustmak5332
@trustmak5332 2 ай бұрын
​@MegaNikaNika I was also about to say the same thing lol
@xTetsu
@xTetsu 2 ай бұрын
Well okay, thats only because Super completely threw power levels out of the window. I remember Krillin using his kienzan on Cells neck and it did absolutely nothing. Or when android 19 punched Vegeta in the face and all thats happened was a lil blood coming from his mouth. It was properly scaled. But in Super they decided to get rid of that which makes irrelevant characters relevant again. It honestly doesnt make any sense. Experience is good and important and all but if this was dbz, it wouldnt do nothin. You could be as smart and experienced as you can, but a low power level still means that your attacks should literally bounce off. In other words, none of the humans should even be able to damage base Goku at all. Because the power gap is that big. At least thats what would be logical in dbz. But again, it has been thrown out the window. I personally think its a fine decision and I dont mind it but I dont like how people try to justify it. It is illogical, or rather it does not follow what the prequels have laid out.
@DuoMaxwell007
@DuoMaxwell007 2 ай бұрын
@xTetsu if that were true then explain why in Z Vegeta yelled for Napa to move to avoid Krillin's destructo disc so he wouldn't get decapitated. According to what you just said Nappa should've been able to take that destructo disc to the neck like it was just someone throwing a rock. Also considering the tournament of powers rules, even if what you said was true, power level would mean NOTHING here as the goal isn't to beat your opponent to submission but just ring them out. You could have a power level of 0 and get someone whoa power level is 1000000 if you're far smarter than them and way more experienced. For example Roshi evil containment then just tossing the jar over the edge. Your power level wouldn't matter in that case, that would work on anybody no matter who they were and what your power level was (if they were evil)
@xTetsu
@xTetsu 2 ай бұрын
@@DuoMaxwell007 Because the gap wasnt as large back then, is what I think. I mean Nappa was at like 6k-ish and Krillin around 2k, I believe. I guess another good example is Frieza. Krillins Disk cut off Friezas tail in his second form. The power gap was also enormous. Tbh I have no idea why it worked on Frieza and didnt on Cell. I can only assume it has to do with the gap in power. My point is that there is no one who just walks up to someone, picks them up, walks them towards the ring out, and simply throws them off like a pebble. Ofc anyone in that tournament could pick someone up strength-wise but its not gonna happen. Because you cant just do that if youre weaker. Youd get punched immediately and at some point you are incapable of moving, resulting in your ring out. Dont forget that the power of ones person consists of not only strength but also speed. If you are stronger than somebody, you are automatically faster. That rule has been proven in dbz in pretty much every single fight. Unless youre using something that reduces your speed, ofc. Like Trunks did vs semi-perfect Cell. Mafuba is absolutely fair. Its a technique that doesnt require strength. It bypasses literally anything that would otherwise matter. I mean, you can even trap Gods with it apparently. But Im not talking about any of those techniques, Im talking about cases where people are outmatched and shouldnt be able to do anything. Like Krillins Kamehameha being able to match Goku blues Kamehameha. Its so ridiculous. "He wasnt going all out" is not an argument imo. Like what, you telling me Goku used 0.01% of his strength? Cause im pretty sure thats how much hed have to hold back at least. But holding back in percentages has never been a thing for our heroes. Only Frieza and maybe some other scrubs did that. Idk. Those are just my thoughts. I definitely feel that they handle things differently this time around. 😅
@derrickdavis3888
@derrickdavis3888 2 ай бұрын
So what Whis was say that Goku’s body can’t be able to maintain Autonomous Ultra Instinct because he’s a mortal that possesses from the highest deities of all gods, He can’t stay in that form for too long that you can tell that he’s in waning state while he’s fighting Kefla that’s why he needed to end the fight before he’ll be in the very bad shape also known as burden state while he gets heartburn and no longer to be able to fight back the only was he able to get back in action was plot.
@chaosgod2586
@chaosgod2586 2 ай бұрын
Piccolo is LEAD ahead of goten and trunks and krillin got the experience plus they are just kids thats trying to have fun🤦😭 woulda been a terrible mistake cs they obvi woulda survived longer than krillin perhaps but out just like he did
@fumetsu-950
@fumetsu-950 2 ай бұрын
Beerus is probably mad at goku reaching UI even if not mastered yet cause it's probably hard to do even for him.
@koodapk8337
@koodapk8337 2 ай бұрын
There are two more Arcs in the Manga after the Tournament.
@MrAsap1
@MrAsap1 2 ай бұрын
GOKU DIDN'T ABSORBED THE SPIRIT BOMB
@freddymosoeu3480
@freddymosoeu3480 2 ай бұрын
26:28 chill tf out almost choked on my own spit🤣🤣
@sonbellamy8438
@sonbellamy8438 2 ай бұрын
I think bringing in Goten and Trunks wouldv been a bad idea. Remeber when they fought against Buu? They got way too over confident and rushed to fight Buu cause they were stronger now and they got clapped each time they fought him. I think the same wouldv happened here so Goku and Vegeta new they would be bad pics since they just go OFP and lose 99.9999999999999999% of the time
@sonbellamy8438
@sonbellamy8438 2 ай бұрын
And if i remember right DBS takes place between the end of Buu and the final Tournament in DBZ were Goku flys away with Buu go its not like Goten and Trunks wouldv matured so much by then.
@reganmouton6958
@reganmouton6958 2 ай бұрын
There is a piece in the movie or i think the super episodes when goku vs beerus where they tease ultraa instict and whis sees it Goku body moves him out of the way from beerus attack which is so cool to see
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