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Received a Ronald Dodd Hornby-Dublo Re-magnetizer a few weeks ago. Testing it out on a 60 year old Alnico Magnet that has lost its "Power". Seeing if it will be better or worse than a new rare earth Neodymium magnet
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@Gregtrainmaster
@Gregtrainmaster Күн бұрын
im glad you never gave up looks like a 3 beer job to me
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I never give up on a repair. Might take a while, but it always gets completed ;-)
@PaulinesPastimes
@PaulinesPastimes Күн бұрын
Love the motor explanation. When you visualise the motor like that you realise the simplicity and genius of a DC motor. Excellent. In the past, I was almost seduced by the promise of the neodymium magnet but never quite trusted them. This is the best demonstration I have ever seen. 😊👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you very much!
@TimsBitsnPieces
@TimsBitsnPieces Күн бұрын
Ron, we must be thinking alike.. I also ordered and bought myself one of Ronald Dodd's re-magnetisers last month it arrived less than a week later. My Video will be available next week. Yep you explained it well and Kudos to you for correctly saying that the electrons goes from negative to the positive whereas other people think and say it goes from the positive to the negative. It is all about electron flow and electrons flow from the negative to the positive where as current is flow is from the positive to the negative. I did electronics at school and then worked in the electronics industry for many years and I still do electronic repairs and upgrades. Neodymium magnets are a great alternative but as you found out they are not as strong as the original magnets due to their composition.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Makes me wonder if all mail that goes continent to continent is air mailed. Must be.....
@silvertrain7945
@silvertrain7945 Күн бұрын
It’s nice to see you go deep into the nuts and bolts of the hobby. Many people are not that dedicated to fixing and just want to replace.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Ive always wanted to know exactly whats broken by diagnosing it. I worked in too many shops with so called "mechanics" that all they do is swap parts.
@peterhiggins3329
@peterhiggins3329 Күн бұрын
@@classicmodeltrains Yep, they call them technicians NOT tradesman. Australian Navy went down this path to cut costs. Mechanical guys are still OK because the old school guys are still teaching them the right way to do things. Unfortunately the same cant be said for the electronics guys. If a PCB fails they replace it. It might fail three more times before they say why is the PCB failing.....
@hakannilsson9490
@hakannilsson9490 Күн бұрын
Great you have seen the light with the Re-magnetizer😀. It totally transformed my Athearn 4-6-2. And great video as always Ron!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Yup! Now all my oldies can run like spring chickens once again.
@patricksparks6631
@patricksparks6631 Күн бұрын
Once again - we are deep in the weeds, magnetism now .... Love it !! Just so you know, I am a pro at tearing down locos and cleaning and lubing them thanks to your channel. Just did a Rivarossi bought off ebay advertised as "non-running" - cleaned it up - runs smooth as a swiss watch. The grease they used turned into chewing gum .... keep it coming Ron. -Always fun. Those graphics boys will need to report to HR dept ... LOL.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
If the ebay ad says "not running/parts" I want it even more!! The Graphics Dept Boys left for Tijuana early this morning. Probably have to save up some funds to get them out of the "clink" ;-)
@ruagoof2
@ruagoof2 Сағат бұрын
glad the remagnetizer worked so well....great explanation of dc motor operation...hats off to the animation department...Kinda makes me want one of them there locos now... Keep up the great work Ron.... Rich...
@rickestabrook4987
@rickestabrook4987 Күн бұрын
Once again, I learn some new techniques and had a good time doing it. Thanks Ron!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
My pleasure
@TenCJones
@TenCJones Күн бұрын
I have a Ronald Dodd remagnetizer I use it for my old vintage slot car motors. It's brilliant. He"s also a really clever and nice guy.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Right on!
@davidorr8645
@davidorr8645 22 сағат бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. They make me happy. I always look forward to seeing them 😊
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you Very Much David
@johnbanicki7232
@johnbanicki7232 13 сағат бұрын
Another great video. Good to see the engine running good. My grand daughter got a kick out of watching your video. Thanks for sharing.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks John
@anandadesilva6558
@anandadesilva6558 21 минут бұрын
Ron, That is a great video. I have several motors which need the magnets re-done. I was always debating if I should get a re-magnetzer. Thanks for experimenting. Love your sense of humor.
@lotsatrains
@lotsatrains Күн бұрын
Great job 👍 and definitely worth all the effort that is a very nice runner now wow 🤩
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks 👍
@w.rustylane5650
@w.rustylane5650 Күн бұрын
Feeding the beast, I'm a firm believer in neodymium magnets. I've redone all my Pittman motors with neodymium magnets and it made a huge difference. Cheers from eastern TN
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I’m glad you got good results with those magnets.
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Nice👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MattKonsol
@MattKonsol Күн бұрын
33%er here Awesome job remagnetizing that magnet from that athearn motor.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@miamiclipper
@miamiclipper Күн бұрын
I just got a 30 pack of Neodymium N42 1/8"x1/4"x1/2" magnets from TotalElement to replace the magnet in my 2-8-2 Mantua locomotive. It was running poorly, so per one of your earlier videos I replaced it with four of these new magnets. I pulled out the old one with a pair of pliers and used the pliers put in the new ones. It runs terrific now but I noticed it ran opposite to the setting on my transformer. Ah, reverse the polarity of the magnets! Now it works like it should. However, I had put in a new LED headlight which now only works in reverse, so I'll have to re-solder the wires so it'll come on when running forward. I'll do that as soon as I finish watching this video. I've got lots more Mantua locos that I intend to re-magnetize since this was such a success. Thanks again for another entertaining and instructive video!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Glad you got it figured out, I've been playing with magnets lately and it's been a real learning curve.
@TheRobertSterling
@TheRobertSterling 4 сағат бұрын
Hi Ron. As always you never gave up, solved it in the end. I also learned something about magnetism, tell the art department great job. Give them a beer break 😜. I think you will get lots of use for your new magnetizer. Great job 👏👍. Chat again soon buddy. G
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Hello G, Yes I hope to get more classics magged up and showing better performance. Them Graphics Boys went to Tijuana right after the shoot was over.
@NextEevolution
@NextEevolution 8 сағат бұрын
Bought a Ronald Dodd remagnetizer a year ago. It cost me about $280 dollars to get it last year. Now it'll cost around $150 shipped and you get a multimeter included on ebay! It was worth every penny though! I absolutely love buying old, worn, battle scarred and tired locomotives, thoroughly servicing the mechanism, which includes remagnetizing the motor, and watching them fly down the track as if they were brand new again.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
I like the way you think
@kenhoganson9481
@kenhoganson9481 Күн бұрын
Very cool! Very fun! One of your best! Cheers!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I appreciate it!
@randydobson1863
@randydobson1863 Күн бұрын
Hi Ron & it's Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Ron & Friends Randy
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks Randy
@TomzTrainzandAccessories
@TomzTrainzandAccessories 23 сағат бұрын
You did a GREAT job on his Ron! Your explanation was totally clear and understandable. Long Live the 80’s animations!! 👍 Tom Oh, by the way, your Classic Model today is Sharon Stone!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you Tom!
@MrGlideral
@MrGlideral Күн бұрын
Great Video thanks. I got one of those Tyco AT&SF Pacific train sets for Christmas in 1975. Ran the daylights out of it for quite a while, as I recall it finally gave up the ghost about 1994. Had no clue you could re-magnetized the motor magnet. I Guess ya can teach an old dog new tricks.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
The day you quit learning is the day you start pushing daisies ;-)
@thomasmoroney4993
@thomasmoroney4993 Күн бұрын
Pretty cool knowing you are international!….itsgood to know the world is watching!..lol..enjoyed the video!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Yup my signal is getting out to everywhere! Thanks for watching!
@peterwebster3076
@peterwebster3076 Күн бұрын
You have the same exact magnetiser as I have neodymium magnets are effective from the ends mostly hence why the loss of magnetism the older ferrite magnets hold a force all round the magnet great job ron
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks Peter !
@jamesfitch6431
@jamesfitch6431 Күн бұрын
Great video. Yes, you were right to put the light in with the motor. I was thinkin bout getting one of those magnet machines for myself, but decided that some of the newer motors and some that are brushless would be more economical for me. I have not yet taken a motor apart and had the magnets loose there magic... but I will take your word for it. As a retired auto tech I had learned to mark everything as I took it apart. Guess I've been lucky. Thank you for sharing. 33%er saying have a great day.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
This motor and others from the same era are the first ones Ive encountered that loose there magnetism. The other 100 ive took apart never did. I need a magnetometer so I can do some more testing on stuff
@PainesvilleRailfans
@PainesvilleRailfans 19 сағат бұрын
Been looking for a remagnetizer for awhile now. Thanks!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
You bet!
@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561
@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561 2 күн бұрын
33%'er, Great Science experiment. WELL DONE.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 күн бұрын
@@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561 Thank you Lynn!
@robertwagner734
@robertwagner734 Күн бұрын
Another great video 👍🏻
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@markmontella
@markmontella Күн бұрын
Thank you again for the knowledgeable video! You are able to break it down so even us laymen can understand.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks for watching Mark :-)
@ecidaho
@ecidaho 5 сағат бұрын
Sharon Stone I believe! That’s so cool to get it to run so well!! Have seen UK OO collectors use the demagnetized.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Yup you got her!
@StationaryDingleberry
@StationaryDingleberry Күн бұрын
Nice! Well that goes to prove if it works don't fix it... very nice runner. ...a word of caution from my experience with those neominimmiumm magnets to be careful handling them. The ones I have are dangerously strong depending on size and can move in unintended ways if not secured. Very nice motor diagram seriously!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks, Glad you enjoyed the vid. :-)
@JerseyBill-x9r
@JerseyBill-x9r Күн бұрын
Great experiment Ron, I thought you knew about the re-magnetizer because it came out in 1964 with Hornby so I'm sorry I didn't say anything. You could have left the motor together, but you also needed the two little plates in so that the energizers touched them from the re-magnetizer, but you solved it anyway with your own brand of tenacity. I'm happy to see how excellent the locomotive runs after all that work and research you put in and with some help from England Bob's your uncle, lol. Great two videos with an outstanding result. Jersey Bill
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I did leave the motor assembled at first. I was not getting the results I hoped for. The metal bars were being held away from the stator pieces by the thickness of the Zamak motor frame. It did come out better than I hope for thats for sure.
@ArcadiaJunctionHobbies
@ArcadiaJunctionHobbies 5 сағат бұрын
An excellent and usefull video thanks. I am surprised at the poor performance of the Neo Magnets as I use them all the time. I have had great success with them especially on pancake motors such as Lima, Bachmann, Hornby and Tyco. I don't even replace the old magnet. I just place the small Neo Mags on the outside of the motor housing held on by the magnetism of the original motor.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Cool idea!
@Hacksworth_Sidings
@Hacksworth_Sidings Күн бұрын
Those remag tools are brilliant from what I’ve heard, they’re popular over here in the UK for remagnetising the motors in Triang, Hornby Dublo, Airfix, etc, I need to get one myself since all my models probably need a recharge, so if that tool can save a notoriously bad model then I’m confident it’ll do what I need it to do Great video as usual, keep it up!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Place an order because there worth it
@stevenwaller192
@stevenwaller192 Күн бұрын
Well Dang Ron! A great recovery and enjoyable finish to that earlier project. I was guessing Nicole Kidman.luckily watched all the way to the end. I had never heard of that tool. Sweet that it works so well! I’m anxious to see the GG-1 follow-up!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks Steven
@PetesPrettyGoodTrains
@PetesPrettyGoodTrains 13 сағат бұрын
Glad to see that Pacific running like a champ! Wonder how fast some old Athearn Hustlers would go with remagnatized motors!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Makes me giggle just thinking about it.
@maltnz
@maltnz Күн бұрын
Hi - suggest you keep the compass away from the demagnetizer while in using it ... the magnetizer can reverse the polarity on the compass if it is in close proximity. Great video btw.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Good point, thanks!!
@jamescotter5376
@jamescotter5376 Күн бұрын
Another good one thanks Ron keep them coming
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards
@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards Күн бұрын
Remagnetizer, how clever. It sounded like it was running on gas for a while. You know, from beer, eggs and navy beans. Nice fix, as usual! 😎👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I wished it made a noise when it's turned on. It's so cool that it needs a noise all its own ;-)
@326dad
@326dad Күн бұрын
Awesome diagram and explanation Ron ! Time for a beer !
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Yay BEER!
@bigwoz78
@bigwoz78 Күн бұрын
Hi Ron, another great and interesting video as usual. Thanks
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 3 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@williamsantangelo
@williamsantangelo Күн бұрын
Thank you Ron,
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@AllenCNW441
@AllenCNW441 Күн бұрын
Nice to see you, like me, use MRC Control Master 20s.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I love it. I have a O gauge AC version as well
@DGHodgson-o8z
@DGHodgson-o8z Күн бұрын
Hi Ron, great video, Love your animation department, my type of co workers to hang out with.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks, Them Artsy Fellers wont let me hang out with them. They say I aint "cool" enough or something ;-)
@Trains-and-Railroads
@Trains-and-Railroads Күн бұрын
Very nice! Loved the outcome. Keep up the good work! Last time I checked, a Pound was only worth 79 cents U.S., however the dollar has been sliding. - Johnny from Texas
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@TheRailroader576
@TheRailroader576 Күн бұрын
Yeah! Ronald Dodd's Remagnetizer really needs more attention, I have one myself and it's great! Probably one of the best model railroading purchases imaginable!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I agree!
@eschnitger
@eschnitger Күн бұрын
You got me with Sharon Stone, I forgot all about "Basic Instinct"...
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
I get Fatal attraction & Basic Instinct mixed up sometimes
@caboosech
@caboosech Күн бұрын
Great video ron
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks Dave
@keepamericayisraelgreat5708
@keepamericayisraelgreat5708 Күн бұрын
I loved the Graffic boys ...fun times
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
There a crazy bunch
@timothyrose4052
@timothyrose4052 Сағат бұрын
Great video! Been waiting on this one for a while. Get those graphics boyz to work on the benefits of a 5 pole armature vs a 3 pole armature. :)
@maindip
@maindip Күн бұрын
Fantastic video Ron, great comparison and really informative. I can use your explanation of electromagnetic motors when teaching the kids. Also those re magnetised should make some kind of cool sci-fi noise when they work, kinda disappointing when there's no crackle or zap.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
That's what I was thinking! I wanted noise out of the re-magger, something original star trekish :-)
@dalefraschetti1874
@dalefraschetti1874 2 күн бұрын
I'm so glad you did this video Ron I've been debating on buying that same magnetizer for the last month this will be my next tool purchase!!! Awesome video
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 күн бұрын
@@dalefraschetti1874 thanks Dale. If you have a lot of old locos to do a re-mag on then yes it’s worth it.
@dalefraschetti1874
@dalefraschetti1874 2 күн бұрын
I have a few that could use a good zapping ⚡️
@MygrandpasTrain
@MygrandpasTrain 23 сағат бұрын
Now that's a result I wasn't expecting either. I also noticed the original magnet offered a smoother start and the Neo magnets were more jerky. I noticed the same thing on the engines I put neo magnets in. This might translate oddly to the audio world- many people like the old ALNICO speakers, they have a warmer sound. And the Neo speakers don't sound that great to me. You also must be doing well with the KZbin, being able to hire those first rate production teams! Makes me laugh every time!😄
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
It was an interesting journey with unexpected results. I'm Looking into some Sesame Street former actors for some stagehand work. Imaginary creatures are hard workers ;-)
@RayBoebel
@RayBoebel Күн бұрын
Interesting experiment there Ron. I would have thought those replacements would have done better. That magnetizer seems to be the ticket for sure!!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I agree Ray, I thought it would pull like .25 amp and just creep along for days. More research is necessary....Where's my grant application!!
@ragan989
@ragan989 Күн бұрын
I own this engine my self and there was supposed to be 2 wires connected to the tender and the draw bar does not pick up power but the person who had it originally own this engine must have heavly modified this engine also great job you got it running
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Yes, a few Fellers mentioned the missing 2nd wire in the comments of the last video. That drawbar has a lot of Rivarossi styling to it. The 2nd wire really brought that around though!!
@WilliamDeyak
@WilliamDeyak Күн бұрын
love watching n learning\watch on tv and now ill like on pc
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks for engaging the comments William
@BrockRuby
@BrockRuby Күн бұрын
Sharing this vid with my fellow hobbyist!!(sp?)
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I Miss (sp?) all the time, Sometimes so bad the auto spell check cant even figure out what im typing :-D. Thanks for sharing this vid Brock !!
@sjwhitney
@sjwhitney 19 сағат бұрын
The P-4 was strictly designed as a moderately high-speed passenger locomotive by Lima. It was the largest designed before changing to a 4-6-4 Hudson type. The P-4 has better performance than the NYC Hudson type where shorter distances between stations were encountered. The trailing truck had a booster that quickly got the P-4 with train out of stations in a hurry. Fortunately, there is one B&M P-4 still in existence and under restoration at Steamtown in Scranton, PA.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the background info, I love hearing about steamers getting restored!!
@DennisMurphey
@DennisMurphey Күн бұрын
I play with American Flyer and had an old DC Motor from AC GIlbert. It was Alnico I believe but it was so weak. I ordered rectangular magnets to replace it and it was amazingly stronger and very low Amps to pull. In time I learned I could not find very many of the DC Field designs to convert. So i tried to 3D print a field shape to hold Arc Shaped Super Magnets. After several design changes and prototypes I had a good shape to replace the entire old AC Fields With a 3D Printed form that help Arc shaped Magnets one on each side but they were a little weak with the larger engines, So i got a rectangular magnet that fit on the outside of the Arc Magnet for a boost. Ah AH now it pulled like a train. I had a Northern S Gauge pulling 20 cars until the rubber tire rin peeled off. The DC Field Assembles work great replacing the original AC wire wound fields. Amp draw is below 1 Amp from the 3 amp of the AC Field motors. And power can be tuned with smaller or larger Booster Magnets. Sharing to confirm the Super Magnets seen to work but better in the Arc Shape deleting the metal arcs. Good educational video, Thanks Dennis
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thats a pretty cool mod you did there Dennis.
@mthhandyman
@mthhandyman Күн бұрын
Try putting a neodinium magnet on the outside of the moter, see if that would charge up the alnico magnet. Maybe ? If you put the magnet in the cage backward, the cage would take away some of magnatisem untill it fully changed polarity. Happy Thanksgiving.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
The first video I put the neo on the outside of the stator pieces. The Alnico did not hold the charge. The tin stator pieces do not hold any magnetism without a magnet in place. I really thought the Neo's would be much better than the results I got.
@n4pwx
@n4pwx 21 сағат бұрын
Hi Ron you got me with Sharon Stone. I couldn`t figure it out. lol Great video. What was the name of those magnets again? LOL😂
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks Dennis, Ive just decided to call them Neo magnets, the rest of the word is too hard
@darrellnorton2208
@darrellnorton2208 Күн бұрын
Great video Ron, been after one of them there re magnatizers at a sensible price for the last year as i love my old triangs etc, and they could all do with a boost .seem to be rare when they do pop up for sale then go for a pretty price as everyone seems to want them
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
This is the first time ive been exposed to one. I paid $200 w/ shipping.
@darrellnorton2208
@darrellnorton2208 Күн бұрын
@classicmodeltrains that's a pretty good price, especially with the shipping 👍
@charlie1872
@charlie1872 Күн бұрын
That is really interesting. I have often thought of buying one as I have many older Triang/Hornby locos with three pole motors but thought it was too expensive to get it over the pond. How much did it cost all in? Thanks
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
2 hundy w/ shipping each between me and the other feller who bought one as well.
@muir8009
@muir8009 21 сағат бұрын
What a terrifically informative video, and how good are your graphics!!! I thought it was an informative pic then you went all crazy with that stop motion magitrickery Along motor lines: I'm sure you're familiar with that terrific pioneer Ernst Planck 2 rail loco from 1882. But have a look at that motor concept, with its electromagnetic bobbin arrangement. Neat how an electric toy train appeared just 3 years after the first electric demonstration, and before the real thing, hence a motor with a wound armature wasn't a given
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
I'm not familiar with that Feller or his electric train.. Is pretty neat how fast that invention showed up
@BradWB
@BradWB Күн бұрын
🎶 Real men of genius 🎵
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I miss them commercials
@WWIIREBEL
@WWIIREBEL Күн бұрын
That's kinda wild, that they used the wheels meant for rubber band drive diesels/RDC's on the tender
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Probably had a ton of them and needed to use them up
@WWIIREBEL
@WWIIREBEL Күн бұрын
@@classicmodeltrains I think you are correct. I'd do the same to unload extra parts,lol.
@ant1952com
@ant1952com 16 сағат бұрын
now that's a KZbin video isn't it nice job
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks
@CannonCountry
@CannonCountry Күн бұрын
Having a glass of bourbon with this one
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
NICE!
@peterhiggins3329
@peterhiggins3329 Күн бұрын
Yes. the metal plates will have had residual magnetism polarised to the old magnet. If you installed the new magnets the other way round then you will have opposing magnetic fields and the overall magnetism is poor.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Sounds like a good theory to test out. I didnt notice any magnetism in the stator plates but also I did not look for it either. Back to the Lab I must go!!
@wendellknicely395
@wendellknicely395 Күн бұрын
The problem with the Neo (Yeah I can't pronounce it either) magnets is that when smaller magnets are used and stacked. As you stack them you get diminishing returns from each of the separate magnets (So 1 = 1, 2 = 1.9, 3 = 2.7, 4 = 3.2....) . Also the field does not expand, it stays about the same. This field is what is "transferred" (not scientifically accurate but will do) to the 'wings'. The field is also narrowed by the width of the magnets meaning less of a field is available. So in this application the stacked Neo magnets is far less efficient than they should be. The screw driver test confirmed this. I quick search shows single magnets of 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 cube with 27 Pounds of force. Way to strong of a magnet, will probably uncouple any magnetic couplers within a foot or two. :) Ideally you would want to get one that is sized correctly and has reasonable force. Anyways, I am in favor of using the original and vintage magnets with the re-magnetizer!!!!!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the information Wendell :-)
@adventuresinmodelrailroading
@adventuresinmodelrailroading 19 сағат бұрын
OOBill uses a magnetizer just about every video. I believe DarthSantaFe did an in-depth video on Neodymium magnets.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
I will have to check them out
@TenCJones
@TenCJones Күн бұрын
I also heard that the neo magnets can be too strong and cause the armature shaft to wear the bearings out quicker in old open frame motors.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks for the input as well :-)
@casstelles
@casstelles Күн бұрын
I'm a little puzzled by the performance of the Neodymium magnets. They are supposed to be the most power magnets that can be found. I question whether the magnets genuine neodymium magnets since they were purchased from the big "A" seller which sometimes gets questionable products to sell, or the magnets do not give the right magnetic flux field due to being round. I'll expand on the second part of my theory since the first part of my theory is self-explanatory. The round neodymium magnets may be causing a narrow flux field on the steel expander bands causing a weaker magnetic field for the motor to use. I did see the big "A" seller have square and rectangular neodymium magnets which may expand out the magnetic field for a motor. I would try those next time instead of the round magnets. This may be a critical difference in performance. Aside from the round neodymium magnets being a bust, the magnetizer worked this time, but I've seen them on other channels have marginal performance. I guess it depends on the quality, age, and deterioration of the original magnet whether it can be brough back to life.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
I was unable to find the proper rectangular Neo's on the A-site. I do plan on doing more research on this, I hope my grant get approved ;-)
@jdubs78
@jdubs78 23 минут бұрын
Great video as always Ron. I hope you and the misses had a great Thanksgiving in big sky country. I had the typical thanksgiving with the usual degenerates but most of us railroad guys are degenerates anyhow. lol.
@andrewholmes8337
@andrewholmes8337 Күн бұрын
I here that cordless motor are better than the old ones could you try one of those 😮
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Cordless Motor?
@timothyrose4052
@timothyrose4052 13 сағат бұрын
Do you mean "coreless"?
@joenewstead4848
@joenewstead4848 21 сағат бұрын
You have a link for that remagnitizer? I want one now
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
I showed them in the video
@gbwdude
@gbwdude 23 сағат бұрын
There are different strengths to the magnets, your garden variety of neodymium magnets will be the N32 strength while the ones you might want will be the N52. Ask me how I know as I'm making dumb fridge magnets to use up the tiny n32's...
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
They sure seemed to have a lot of magnetism until it came time to do real magnet stuff :-)
@joefin5900
@joefin5900 Күн бұрын
Ron, there are more beautiful, fully functioning trains sitting in attics and basements, doing nothing, than the entire production of manufacturers this year. This hobby needs someone who can agglomerate all of these beautiful trains and redistribute them into the hands of young railroaders and their dads nationwide, while keeping the collector vultures out of such an endeavor.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
I hear you Joe, and completely agree!
@ScaleTrainStation
@ScaleTrainStation Күн бұрын
I wish yourself would talk to myself because myself lies to myself ALL THE TIME! "You can lift that" "One more beer won't hurt" "No way she heard that" - All LIES. Marking the magnet to make sure it always goes together the same way is smart. On the neodymiums, they could be too "strong", but they should never be worse than the old magnet. Once the iron parts saturate with magnetic field the remaining field is essentially wasted. The original parts are surely designed to be just big enough for Alnico magnets, you would have to make new iron parts with a larger cross section to get all the power of the N magnets.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Love the first part of your comment! Too FUNNY!! Now I guess ive lied to myself as well! You make a good point with the second part of your comment. Very interesting!!
@brentpodoll5848
@brentpodoll5848 Күн бұрын
Neet stuff. Little deep for me but I'm just a painter. I do like new information though
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
New Good info is always a good thing. Poor info makes me upset
@jacksnavely559
@jacksnavely559 Күн бұрын
They say pounds if it is relatively expensive and they say quid if they trying to play the cost down , , THE Brits are Kings of slang 😊
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Thanks for the info
@rickestabrook4987
@rickestabrook4987 Күн бұрын
Sharon Stone
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Yup!
@MartinSBrown-tp9ji
@MartinSBrown-tp9ji 7 сағат бұрын
Don't hold that button down longer than 1 second. You will get a stronger magnet.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 2 сағат бұрын
OK
@garyjust.johnson1436
@garyjust.johnson1436 Күн бұрын
Michelle Pfeifer! LadyHawke! Oops! My bad!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Sharon Stone
@keithgilham9438
@keithgilham9438 Күн бұрын
Just found your channel, great topics and a great interest of mine but do you need to talk like that?
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Talk like what?
@thomasbailey-h5i
@thomasbailey-h5i Күн бұрын
how do i get hold of you says your email address is no good
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
You typed it in wrong. My email address works. classicmodeltrains@aol.com
@edwardjackowski771
@edwardjackowski771 Күн бұрын
Sharon stone
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Күн бұрын
Yup!
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