What makes a bike ride well? (well, it's not the frame!)

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ultraromance

ultraromance

Күн бұрын

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@senenrc
@senenrc Жыл бұрын
In my case, the recipy for a good bike is a 90s steel frame one size small, with the biggest tires you can fit in, long seatpost and long stem. The tires should cost more than the frame and you should build the bike yourself like if it was intended for survival on an apocalyptic world. Then you really understand and love your bike
@pietspijker2921
@pietspijker2921 Жыл бұрын
That is the way to do it!
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
hmmm poetry!
@TerryB
@TerryB Жыл бұрын
Had no idea cyclist carry a climbing chalk bag on their handlebars.
@seancbrophy
@seancbrophy Жыл бұрын
Love this recipe.
@gunnarblomquist4412
@gunnarblomquist4412 Жыл бұрын
​@@ultraromancethe saddle to the left which model is that please?
@wayofthehike
@wayofthehike Жыл бұрын
I like this pointing stick. It truly helps bring out the finer points of this lesson.
@mojojojo6852
@mojojojo6852 7 ай бұрын
This video is like a glance into another universe where it's always summer and time stands still.
@fj5563
@fj5563 6 ай бұрын
poetry
@OrdnanceTV
@OrdnanceTV 6 ай бұрын
It's called the East Coast. 👍🏻 (Lived in Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania for 30 years)
@Josukegaming
@Josukegaming Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your quirky sense of humor and just how much you're unapologetically yourself
@650gringo
@650gringo 11 ай бұрын
After riding stiff aluminum frames for decades, I a threw a leg over a late 80's Trek 400 chromoly lugged frame and was amazed at how smooth a ride it provided. The rear triangle certainly feels like it flexes over sharp bumps. Many times I think to myself that the frame must be cracked some hidden place it flexes so much, and I have actually gone over the rear triangle with a magnifying glass looking for that crack. But no it just rides so damn smooth and soaks up road cracks so well that it is my favorite human powered vehicle of all time.
@naaaateeee
@naaaateeee Жыл бұрын
This is the material that brings me back to KZbin, time and time again
@Leviajohnson
@Leviajohnson Жыл бұрын
Ronnie makes me feel less alone in my obsession for bicycles
@fiinpowell
@fiinpowell Жыл бұрын
Much of the technical jargon went right over my head but I love the delivery, you my friend are the Bob Ross of bikes.
@biosfearmag
@biosfearmag Жыл бұрын
Just back from a long ride on my Lightning Bolt, smoking my summer harvest for the first time, and getting some quality education. Really appreciated Ron!
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
ooh la la --- a dancer of a tubeset on the ol' LB --- fun one to ride! enjoy the harvest!
@MeneerHerculePoirot
@MeneerHerculePoirot 6 ай бұрын
Like a bike tech friend of mine said, "Almost all innovations are competition driven. But, for 99.9% of us all we want is a bike that rides well, shifts smooth and slows down when we squeeze the brake levers."
@z33d6
@z33d6 3 ай бұрын
In the bike industry it's mostly a competition between one marketing department and another.
@jvcfilm1
@jvcfilm1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ronnie, for one of the most informative videos I have ever watched about bicycles. I liked everything about the way this information was presented.
@felixjackson2670
@felixjackson2670 Жыл бұрын
Love your content. Mind blowing that most folk STILL pump their wire beaded tyres hard as rock!! Also reached a point where ‘latest tech’ went cold on me…Industry promoted,along with MANY other aspects of our lives ( health springs to mind) but many things ,unscientific,gimmick’s,pushed as ‘factual’ in order to sell ideas and products. Thank you.
@alexrains1893
@alexrains1893 Ай бұрын
Prof. Ronnie, that wheelbarrow analogy was an utterly incredible explanation of easily comprehendible transferable knowledge. Nothing quite like exaggerating something to aid comprehension.
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise Жыл бұрын
From experience I agree with nearly all of this - it is a tiny bit suspicious when all the "best" things are also all the most trendy but it just seems that some of the cycling world is starting understand that the right compromises were already found a long time ago and the trends are going the right direction for the most part (when they don't over do it). I say start at what contacts the ground, find tires you like, on a bike like a bmx where there are no complicating factors like suspension or flex you can instantly feel that the right tire can make the bike feel nimble and trustworthy and the wrong tire and make the bike feel washy and vague. Then replace what you touch, grips, pedals, seat. People are looking at new forks or frames when they are still running some rock hard stock grips or are standing on some tiny stock pedals with no grip.
@undrthght
@undrthght Жыл бұрын
The wheelbarrow provided one of the clearest examples I’ve seen of bike geometry
@shinhochulp
@shinhochulp Жыл бұрын
I heard it first from Jeff Jones many years ago. Hopefully proper credit is given.
@jeffpittman8725
@jeffpittman8725 5 ай бұрын
I've had a lugged frame MTB for a loooong time. I built it and and it's like my best friend. Extremely comfortable. Getting ready to build a new bike so I'm excited but reserved. This is a great video!
@kennethward9530
@kennethward9530 Жыл бұрын
An often overlooked factor by most manufacturers and many high end bike shops in setting up a new frame is facing the head tube and fork bearing seats. Getting the bearings nicely lined up so they rotate at a consistent torque can make the difference between a bike feeling a little bit twitchy or being a hands free wonder on downhills; and as a bonus your headsets will last a long time. Quill type headsets frequently coming loose are a good indication bearings may be out of alignment. One of my old favorite frames came back from a repaint feeling funky, just the overspray on the headtube seats was enough to make it feel a little twitchy when hands free, cleaning up the bearing seats put it back to normal.
@semilog643
@semilog643 Жыл бұрын
PREACH. Biggest omission in setups, along with failure to assay and correct dropout alignment. I always cringe when I see a Chris King headset pressed into a painted or unmachined surface.
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
good point! I will admit to knowing this, but ignoring most of the time, perhaps to my own detriment --- I was installing headsets with a hammer and 2x4 until a press was gifted to me 10 years ago.
@sebasm9300
@sebasm9300 Жыл бұрын
For those who are looking for the quick answer: It's the rider's shorts length
@MrShaneSunshine
@MrShaneSunshine 4 ай бұрын
My wife made a similar comment eh! 😂👍🔥🍆
@theadventurebiker
@theadventurebiker Жыл бұрын
100% straight up facts in this video. So many worthless (to the consumer) sales and marketing gimmicks in cycling , it will make your head spin. That being said, I'm not riding a hardtail MTB offroad much less a fully rigid one... I renounced that decades ago and am *never* going back.
@DavidPulsipher
@DavidPulsipher Жыл бұрын
great stuff ron - keep up the great work. very important to have a voice like yours out there combatting the gram cutting, race-centric, aggressive KOM voice that seems to dominate most of the bike industry.
@stevegelman7838
@stevegelman7838 Жыл бұрын
I have a trek 7200 bicycle, with the Tannus solid tires, no tubes, no air, just solid tires, out of all my bikes too this is my favorite I would never go back too pneumatic tires, no maintenance no Flats no worries absolutely one-hundred-percent the best investment I ever made
@ronnisullivan9794
@ronnisullivan9794 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy learning from you. I’m curious about all the comments about your appearance. I’m an old woman who almost feels guilty appreciating what i see. You have a wealth of info and you are in great shape. I hate to see unnecessary negative comments
@ianshea9025
@ianshea9025 Жыл бұрын
The main triangle is really more of a parallelogram (irregular quadrilateral) since the top tube and downtube don't meet at the same point but are offset on the headtube. Think about how a derailleur parallelogram moves, that is similar to how a frame deflects in the vertical plane. *but for all intent and purposes* that means F-all because any vertical deflection in the frame is negligible compared to vertical deflection in other parts of the bike (tires/fork) On the topic of steel vs aluminum, I don't ride steel for the feel, but because aluminum has a cyclical fatigue limit, where the limit is practically infinite in a steel frame. Not to mention there's no need to heat-treat if you need to fix or want to modify the frame in some way.
@rastislavstanik
@rastislavstanik 4 ай бұрын
Could you please explain? So aluminium frame will eventually break at some point in time?
@another3997
@another3997 22 сағат бұрын
Essentually, Aluminium slowly becomes more brittle and weaker as it flexes over time. It has a low fatigue limit, any amount of flex alters the metal, and the damage is both cumulative and permanent. You will find many Aluminium wheel rims crack as they get older, and frames will get weaker. With steel there is no permanent change in the strength of the material from repeated flexing, unless you bend it beyond a certain critical point. That's why most springs are made from steel.
@ChlorophyllCrusher
@ChlorophyllCrusher 11 ай бұрын
I can’t agree more with Ron’s main point. I like to lock in the one or two tires I want to roll, then build the bike around their characteristics and requirements.
@patfinn2697
@patfinn2697 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see the Charlie Cunningham shout out! He deserves more credit. Awesome video of course.
@donpuer
@donpuer 6 ай бұрын
I got the book Bicycle Science by D. G. Wilson and have been entertained and educated for like a decade. You can skip the more complex parts and get to them later. It touches just about everything about human powered machines in great depth. A wonderful read if you love bikes and want to get a deeper understanding of the principles.
@Tenere55W
@Tenere55W 11 ай бұрын
Loved the ammount of concentrated personal info you just put in 10 minutes! I felt your words like my experience after 30 years on two wheels. Fully agree with the new Ideale saddle. Have one and feels so nice to ride. Will try a titanium bar as soon i can! Thanks mate! Karl.
@borrred
@borrred 22 күн бұрын
ive been riding for years. coming from a skateboarding background, only this past year have i begun to really tune my bike to my needs. thank you for a great video. very good edit.
@4stroke4string
@4stroke4string Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ronnie, appreciate you company!❤
@calcagnolibero
@calcagnolibero Жыл бұрын
Great video Ronnie thanks for sharing. I don’t agree on straight forks: in my experience they aren’t as compliant and comfortable as the curved ones. 100% agree on 26 mm handlebars and anything else you said.
@Robotooo
@Robotooo Жыл бұрын
Here’s how you can do your tape experiment on a straight blade fork: firmly zip tie or tape two pencils perpendicular to the fork blade and parallel to each other, say 6 inches apart, one down by the dropout, one higher up. The pencils are facing toward the front of the bike. Then run your tape strip between the ends of the pencils. Any small deflection of the straight tubes will show up as slack in the tape.
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
I am gonna try this! thanks for the science
@jfu5222
@jfu5222 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Romance, I ride steel bikes 'cause I'm poor and they look cool. My main ride is a Falcon of England, mid-80s road bike. It's still equipped with BioPace Shimano 12 speed components. I get a few comments from other graying old dudes who remember this gimmicky. I always thought the frame was a bit small, but I guess I stumbled into something good with the long seatpost and stem. it has moustache bars and skinny tires with an old French hammock saddle, it's served me well for decades with occasional modifications. You are my first source for bike knowledge. Keep up the fantastic work, you handsome devil.
@Cyclingabout
@Cyclingabout Жыл бұрын
Great video, Ronnie! The design & engineering principles you've used explain everything super clearly. Hopefully, you can change some minds about frame materials, bar/stem diameters, seat post lengths, and straight blade forks! 🎉
@charlie_p0011
@charlie_p0011 Жыл бұрын
Former serial flatter! Switched to schwalbe and have made it a year (3500 mi.) without a flat! I even had an allen wrench go through the tire (not the tube). Thanks for the video - totally worth the watch!
@OrangeTree253
@OrangeTree253 Жыл бұрын
Schwabs are the way to go if you want reliability.
@coreygolpheneee
@coreygolpheneee Жыл бұрын
​@@OrangeTree253schwalbes for the commuter, supple stuff for the weekender.
@davidvanhorsen2733
@davidvanhorsen2733 Жыл бұрын
I am the first to admit I am a Western US jingoist but I gotta say your place is really nice. Green and leafy with a morning coffee after sleeping with the house windows open. Oh! And a great discussion that gave me stuff to consider
@mattdelcomyn8012
@mattdelcomyn8012 Жыл бұрын
Loves me a great bike nerd / bike tech vid. Great run though of the many factors that make these machines so magical and a few of the most important ones to focus on. Thanks!!
@BenZCardiff
@BenZCardiff Жыл бұрын
The world needs a 700x50 race casing Ultradynamico Ronnie. Give the people what they need! Tire mold costs be damned!
@jensroeckendorf382
@jensroeckendorf382 4 ай бұрын
A very good video talk about the differences in bike parts and their effect to the comfort or discomfort in riding it. Thanks for this video!!
@Chicagoschwinn
@Chicagoschwinn Жыл бұрын
Always a fun watch with the wisdom of Mr Ron! I did learn a thing or two. I have been a steel snob for many years but I am on the road to Al curious now for sure! More videos please - have a great day Ronnie 🌞
@Bons.ksee.t
@Bons.ksee.t Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Supper clean and simply put, love it !
@jamescollins5697
@jamescollins5697 Ай бұрын
Thanks for all the info. Think I'll have to watch this vid about 10 more times in order to fully absorb about half the info you presented to us. Thanks again.
@peterservo4802
@peterservo4802 Жыл бұрын
Great video Professor Ronnie! My takeaways are these. First, I'm glad to see you gravitate back to your Alumalith with flat bars. It seems you've been riding drops an awful lot lately. Second, your installation of frame pumps. Third, your explanation of seat tube and head tube geometry which to me makes all the difference when considering bike frames and their effect on ride quality. Lastly, the Casa de Ronnie looks like paradise. Oh, and the sword usage is also a nice touch.
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
you get an A+ on this synopsis
@drewlyall6845
@drewlyall6845 Жыл бұрын
Great video Ron! Digging the heady blend of science and wisdom
@dayinnymtb
@dayinnymtb Жыл бұрын
Are we just going to gloss over the hoochie daddy shorts? 😂 Great video with a lot of information with most of it things I’ve never really considered nor heard discussed before. Most of the focus today is on “slackness” and “modern geo” while skipping some of the more important things. For me, the most important things I look for are bars/grips, saddle, pedals, fork and tires. If I feel comfortable sitting on it and rolling over things I am happy. Tires, I want the bike to be predictable and in control when going around turns/over obstacles. Earned my sub!
@traceyjenkins196
@traceyjenkins196 Жыл бұрын
Good analogies. I like the skinny tubes, but think the curved steel forks are sexy, lol. Just sent it on my Ultradynamico race series tires at a race this weekend. Steep decline, fresh chunky gravel with no clear paths on a steep HT steel bike, albeit curved fork. It ran true, tires performed well, and seemed sturdier than their tan sidewalls would suggest. You were helpful in assisting me get them setup tubeless, and I like them quite well. Good video, love the jorts, lol.
@chonclark
@chonclark Жыл бұрын
Love everything you’re putting out past and current. From the Ted Talks at PBE to going over what works for you has me building my bikes aesthetically first with components from the early 90s that will outlast everything else. Thanks for sharing your philosophy and dropping the science on the community. About to switch to friction shifting to try it out and playing around with handlebars.
@brennamiller6806
@brennamiller6806 Жыл бұрын
The 8/9 DA and XT/R still kill it today, especially in a 3x9 format. (No shade on all the 1x kids out there).
@tblakemusic
@tblakemusic Жыл бұрын
friction shifting rules man. becomes intuitive almost instantly, and you can use pretty much any components you want!
@tblakemusic
@tblakemusic Жыл бұрын
@rollinrat4850 was gonna say… who needs more than 10 speeds? lol
@OrangeTree253
@OrangeTree253 Жыл бұрын
I have had and old steel bike that I got for cheap when I was in college and it was really smooth even on dirt trails. I upgraded to an aluminum bike and everything about the aluminum bike is better except I feel the bumps way more. I think it’s easier to make a cheap steel frame that feels good on rough ground than it is to make it out of almost anything else.
@hananas2
@hananas2 Жыл бұрын
I like my bikes with the supplest tyres I can find, although I don't necessarily always go for the fattest. I really like the tight little "blep" feeling/sound you get when you ride a perfectly tuned supple skinny tyre over a small bump. (like 25-32C) Another upside of supple tyres is they're usually very light which just makes the whole bike feel more lively
@tacos8910
@tacos8910 Жыл бұрын
Triangles are the stiffest shape. Imagine if you had a triangle with the corners being pivots. You still can't change the angles of the triangle. Now a triangle can still deform through deflection. A force on a triangle can cause the lengths of the sides of the triangle to change. By the side lengths changing, it'll cause a change in the triangle's angle, causing flex.
@razorramon4493
@razorramon4493 Жыл бұрын
Great explanations and common myths debunking. I , myself prefer steel bikes purely due to aesthetical preference for skinny tubes. When you like how the bike looks you tend to ride it more often.
@Menthol_ballroom
@Menthol_ballroom 4 ай бұрын
@rollinrat4850I bet you wear Velcro shoes
@danevans9742
@danevans9742 Жыл бұрын
this is top tier info, and top tier vibes. I feel so much more informed... and so much more comfy. Can't ask for more.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 Жыл бұрын
Great to see somebody speaking sense about this. And talking about these topics. But frame actually makes a huge difference when it comes to geometry, size. so old school MTB bikes for example you sit too far back, reach is short, cockpit low, so it gives neck, back pain, fatigue, head angle making the bikes wiggly, long stem also makes you swing instead of turn the bar. But the way your bike is set up and the head tube angle will make it steer nicely. In this case a long stem makes sense, due to the handlebar used, so the hands are in the right spot. For some reason bicycle industry moved to steeper head angle, big mistake IMO. But now it's making more sense, longer reach and steeper seat tube angle. 3:24 You are right, vertically it won't flex, by side to side the rear end can flex. so some brands claim to tune that to have perfect combo of flex for control, grip, comfort, and not be too flexibly. I see some frames have weird designs to make it flex, and have elastomer in the seat stay top area, they call it soft tail, but that's usually titanium or carbon frames. But it will barely make a difference I think, IMO that's more hassle than it's worth. might as well get a full suspension bike then.
@edwardallan197
@edwardallan197 7 ай бұрын
This was great! So many essential points! Well explained.
@noelbrown6771
@noelbrown6771 Жыл бұрын
My 90s KHS team mtb with Ritchey Logic tubeset has flexible seat stays that bow out away from each other that translates to a vertical compliance. It also has a Kenesis aluminum fork that deflects more than the chrome moly fork it replaced. These are a couple of the things I've discovered.
@criddler_9738
@criddler_9738 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this video every time I play it.
@VeloObscura
@VeloObscura Жыл бұрын
CONTROVERSIAL!
@tmagee27
@tmagee27 Жыл бұрын
That's what the sticks are for. Poking, stirring and whipping it up!
@jasonwishart6800
@jasonwishart6800 Жыл бұрын
My most comfy bike is a grandpa spec hybrid with a suspension fork, suspension seatpost, 40mm tyres, flat bars with bar ends. I may look like a geezer but it just works.
@another3997
@another3997 21 сағат бұрын
I agree, my main bike is set up like that, although I prefer swept back "North Road" bars to flat bars. They put your wrists in a more natural position.
@psychedeliccheese
@psychedeliccheese Жыл бұрын
To measure telescopic compliance on a straight blade I think you could attache tape from the straight blade to the head tube or handle bars. As well you could put tape on the length of the straight blade but use tape to back the middle of the strip so you only have 2 contact points and the middle of the tape is free.
@recyclespinning9839
@recyclespinning9839 Жыл бұрын
Frame and fork , geometry have a lot to do with the ride. Yes contact points , etc have a lot to do with feel. Geometry makes a bike twitchy, stable, etc. So I'm wondering about this video.
@another3997
@another3997 21 сағат бұрын
He did explain it in the video, but this isn't about the particular characteristics of certain frame geometries, but more about in which order you are likely to actually feel how a bike rides. The contact points on a bike, with the ground and your body, directly affect that feel. When riding, the tyres will usually flex far more than a frame, a fork will flex more than the frame, handlebars flex and absorb vibration, seats flex and absorb vibration. You feel this directly through the contact points. And the tube shape, wall thickness and diameter have a greater effect on what you feel than just the geometry.
@raymondferguson3781
@raymondferguson3781 Жыл бұрын
For forks, I find my vertical fork bikes to be more twitchy, responsive? Like less motion makes more of a difference. might be just frames but I've always thought moving the wheel axis forward makes it more like a buik. And it creates sort of a centered resting spot for lower speed stability. A scientific test of a the gravity aligned bent fork might be possible by seeing how slow you can ride hands free on various forks without falling over. Might also be interesting to see if you have to lean more or less when cornering at speed. Maybe you could tape a level to the bike and ride around a culdesac in a yellow vest until a Karen calls the cops on you for casing houses? Anyway... For there are newer stile flared out drops you see on some touring bikes that flex like the swept back upright bar you show and still let you get under the wind. I really like those for a comfortable riding drop.
@ductrung3993
@ductrung3993 10 ай бұрын
Would you mind elaborating the differences between a frame with a longer seat tube and flat top tube vs a shorter seat tube and a sloping top tube? Thank you!
@Wanderingsaddle
@Wanderingsaddle Жыл бұрын
Great stuff - We will never reach nirvana with our bicycles and that's why we keep cycling. constant tinkering and adjustments make us better cyclists and in search for that ultimate ride and bike build. Thanks for a great video.
@rharr8846
@rharr8846 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video very much and I agree it's all about the tires.
@robinheil
@robinheil Жыл бұрын
For a 30-minute nerdy deep dive, that was surprisingly enjoyable to watch, and definitely got me thinking. I feel you about suspension forks. Had a bad accident due to my fork not being pumped up correctly. The fork nosedived and sent me over the bars and into a tree. Now I'm thinking of ditching it entirely.
@Ferrichrome
@Ferrichrome Жыл бұрын
Suspension is definitely fun since it can be used to ride in places you probably wouldn’t think of with a rigid bike. But I prefer rigid bikes because of the simplicity and feedback you get from that. Ultimately I see the bike as a fun machine and I don’t want anything complicating it too much. Less to think about before a ride is better in my book
@laughingbeast4481
@laughingbeast4481 Жыл бұрын
@rollinrat4850 I'm cyclo newbie and I have Suntour's trekking suspention fork and I always wonder - what terrain is too much for it? To avoid any damage and future failure? Hard to find any info on those and it makes me bit nervous not knowing its limits.
@laughingbeast4481
@laughingbeast4481 Жыл бұрын
@rollinrat4850 Thank for reply. I take my bike to the shop regularly so hopefully service is ok. It's Suntour fork meant for trekking(hybrid?) bikes specifically. It's less robust than MTB forks. I'm not going to jump anytime soon. It's just that I ride some terrain and sometimes I'm like "wasn't this too much for it?" But I guess I'm just overly cautious.
@FunStuffFromND
@FunStuffFromND Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an amazing explanation on bike riding! You nailed it here. I have been riding for over 40 years and feel that this new cr@p that they keep dumping on us actually makes riding less enjoyable. I have a mid-fat 27.5x3 that had the best of all new technology on it and when I stripped it down to what was needed for my style of riding it fit better and was 6 pounds less. Sorry I didn’t get rid of the suspension fork (but I added remote lockout). I put shorter bars put a longer stem and dumped the stupidest invention since the pogo stick on wheels (full suspension) the dropper post! My mid-fat is aluminum and boy I wish I would have done steel! It creaks it flexes and is not the most comfortable ride. I am moving on to a karate monkey for my next bike. This one will be all ridged with drop bars. I have a set of 27.5x3 wheels and a set of 700x43 wheels for it. People say this is a bad idea because of the boost spacing but I think it will work well for me since I’m a big 270 lb 6’2” dude. Oh and that picture of you off the back of the saddle is what riding is about flowing with the bike! If you know how to ride you don’t need a crutch (suspension, dropper post etc)thanks for the best video on bicycling I’ve ever seen. Keep pedaling.
@LloydGoldsteinMusic
@LloydGoldsteinMusic Жыл бұрын
Kiml😊
@philtomlinson8220
@philtomlinson8220 Жыл бұрын
I've always had suspicions around the idea of vertical compliance in bike frames. As you say a triangle is intrinsically stiff, no vertical flex there. So yes, I agree the tyres are doing the work in terms of vertical compliance, and generally the bigger the better, particularly off road. Your point about torsional flex coming from the tyres was particularly interesting, something I've not thought of, but makes perfect sense. I also think Aluminium makes a great frame material, and love my Mason Cycles Bokeh, currently set up with 650b x 55 tyres. However, on the road, where the bike is receiving smaller higher frequency vibrations, and you're also not shifting your weight around so much, I really find the frame to make a difference. A lighter frame with thinner tube wall thicknesses seems for me at least to do a better job of absorbing road vibrations. It's not to do with frame flex as such, but the way the frame dissipates vibration. It doesn't seem to matter what the frame is made of, all the standard materials, steel, aluminium, Ti and carbon can do this if designed properly. Again, I find I'm much more fussy with saddles on the road. The combination of high frequency vibration and the tendency to just sit relatively inertly in one position for longer periods means getting the saddle right is much more important. Off road I find I can get by with almost any old saddle.
@romainr.6071
@romainr.6071 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I have one the last light Steel dedacciai XC MB from 2001 and I find it less vibrating than aluminium but alive and nervous. . But I also have a 1979 road bike - basic frame, wich we would call "made of heater pipe" in France, but with mid 80s high end peripheric and wheels, and I ended by mistake in a long heavy gravel section : even with my road/touring tyres (slick 35mm) with quite high pressure (5 bars), I have found the vibration to be amazingly low on rocks and the bike to be forgiving. The tubes may have thicker material than light steel frame, but their shape is much thinner. Those may explain why they absord better. I also have an aluminuim gravel and aluminium cheap road bike and if their tyres are too pumped up I feel the vibrations more than on steel. Especially from the back of the cheap road bike the fork being steel. The gravel less but it has a carbon seat post and fork. I know it's not scientific so it is not about the suspension provided by the frame itself, but what about the vibration frequency ?
@donusmc1
@donusmc1 5 ай бұрын
My obsession led me towards the lightest skinny tire drop bar aluminum bike I could afford and initially I wasn’t disappointed. The weight of my legs alone seemed to be enough to propel me down the road and speed was effortless but the first root crack I hit at speed was so jarring it blew my hands right off of the handlebars. It was then I realized I had to rethink everything
@adhunt1
@adhunt1 Жыл бұрын
For me the question of high or low trail skirts the more noticeable issue of heat tube angle. Cause you can have a high trail mtb with a slacked out HT and it will ride significantly different than a high trail road bike with a 74 HT. So likewise a low trail mtb (Jones) and low trail road. You’re obviously right that one can get used to whatever and ride it. But for me, anyway, HT angle is what I always want more of
@maxrainwater
@maxrainwater Жыл бұрын
"due to the two axis ... Uh ... theres no place to attach the tape" instant classic!!
@SuperOlds88
@SuperOlds88 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in one of your mountain bikes but I must not be going to the correct site because it only shows single speed mt. bikes. What is your website?
@antman5474
@antman5474 Жыл бұрын
Switching to a Brooks Cambium with the hole cut in it was a game changer for me. Bit of flex and no more post ride numb nob. Moulds to the sit bones too which is nice.
@tomordr
@tomordr Жыл бұрын
First time viewer of your channel. Thoroughly enjoyed your video! Thanks 🙏
@bespey
@bespey Жыл бұрын
Ron, you inspire me to get fluffier and jazzier to ride bikes 🎉
@DoomOfConviction
@DoomOfConviction 5 ай бұрын
I love you man, you’re the bike geek the world needs!
@rmcnabb
@rmcnabb Жыл бұрын
Muchas Garcias. The wheelbarrow analogy is brilliant.
@AlpineTechno
@AlpineTechno 2 ай бұрын
Professor Ronnie knows what's up with bikes. Aligns with decades of biking experience and tweaking I've done.
@jludlowww
@jludlowww Жыл бұрын
Chiming in on forks - I have 4 to discuss. 1st and best, a custom Dekerf Prodigy (1990s?) which is about as noodley as it gets. The tubing towards the crown is ever-so-slightly cold rolled to get a little ovalized armpit (Chris is a master!) which is complimented by a round piece of tubing that's integrated in the juncture of the brake mount. Mitre mastery beyond words and best compliance ever, period. Second, my Tonic Fab Supernaut. Another straight bladed design, but all beef, all fucking day. It has a very minute rake built into the angle from the steering column/crown, but is easily the beefiest piece of steel (besides the frame) that I own. 3rd - BMW Gangsta V4 plated crown with bladed tubing. Rad AF $150, style and comfort beyond what the price point. Get one. 4th a De Rosa 1994 SLX profesh that I put together as a project bike a few years ago and gave to my wife as a birthday present. That sucker is a refined ride, lemme tell you. However, I currently can't imagine going back to a raked fork for my riding needs. Straight noodley steel from an expert builder is no joke.
@triumphrider9396
@triumphrider9396 2 ай бұрын
This video is right up my alley. I've ridden steel, full rigid for road, cross, and mountain for decades. I'm in Oklahoma and ride strictly single-speed. I leave my friends in the dust and they wonder how I'm so fast while their $5,000 full-sus turd with carbon fiber everything and big fat handlebars is in granny gear. Tire selection and pressure is paramount.
@adamtitone9912
@adamtitone9912 Жыл бұрын
I love Ron’s perspective on bikes.
@downregulation
@downregulation Жыл бұрын
I was mesmerized watching this. I kept wanting to turn away but couldn’t.
@speedikat6822
@speedikat6822 Жыл бұрын
Hey, that's pretty interesting! I especially like the comparison of fork blade shapes. I think Jan Heine called it splay. Uh, the movement of the fork reacting to trail bumps.
@organizedcrockery
@organizedcrockery Жыл бұрын
the zenith overview you have made an impression
@slowwerthensnot
@slowwerthensnot Жыл бұрын
Great overview of bikes , pretty much in agreement and too many folks get hung up on one thing providing comfort, tires, saddle, frame, wheels….. ect , where it’s more of a whole package that can make a bike truly comfortable
@houseofsolomon2440
@houseofsolomon2440 10 ай бұрын
lol I lived in Litchfield for many years & hated all the hills. Relocated to st pete FL & love the flat land. Thx f/posting ☆ p.s. I'm a rigid fork / hardtail guy for sure.
@aceprater5397
@aceprater5397 Жыл бұрын
I used to be a serial flatter. Oh crap! I just jinxed myself back into it! Brooks Champion Flyer / French Caskets(Rene Herse) / Oury grips are my preferred method of tuning vibrational locomotion.. I make my own leather conditioner similar to Brooks.
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
oooh forgot to mention comfy grips --- and I certainly hope you remain flat free for a while longer!
@sean9820
@sean9820 Жыл бұрын
ESI grips are the best in this regard
@YesNo-zg3tl
@YesNo-zg3tl Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I enjoyed this. It covered so many good topics!
@StanEby1
@StanEby1 Жыл бұрын
Very sensible. Thank you. My comment has a very remote connection to this vid, but I still think asymetrcal deflection in the rear triangle and in the fork when braking with disc brakes is dangerous for road bike racers. Take care and all the best.
@ultraromance
@ultraromance Жыл бұрын
I am with you! its a crying shame what big bike has done to road bikes with those totally overkill disc brakes. Suppose the move to larger volume road tires have muffled a bit of the associated ride quality loss
@sean9820
@sean9820 Жыл бұрын
Ron looking extra buff and ready for ye ol' nutmegger. And great job, video production is off the charts.
@Nerdsplayingcards
@Nerdsplayingcards Жыл бұрын
Great supply of bike info to help have the most comfortable ride posssible
@dermihai
@dermihai Жыл бұрын
Hello professor, I assume you've already tried every possible saddle because you mentioned health issues. But since you didn't bring this up, I thought I'd leave a short note on pressure-relief saddles (the ones with a recess in the middle): depending on the rider's anatomy and riding style, they might not only be a relief for the perineum, but through that they let the basin rotate futher forward. This in turn releases the back (especially upper back), hence improving comfort during those lengthy rides.
@kendellharbin
@kendellharbin Жыл бұрын
Really glad to have found your channel. I have never encountered the opinion of an 'alt cyclist' before this, but can now safely say I have found my kin. Thanks for this video!
@jakubczwojda2002
@jakubczwojda2002 11 ай бұрын
thx for video, it's nice to watch advices given so clearly, I like your approach to cycling
@jonbingham7525
@jonbingham7525 11 ай бұрын
Had a early 70's steel frame with a curved 531 fork running 32mm tyres and it was very plush, as mentioned I video I think this is mainly vibration damping rather than compliance.
@linesided
@linesided 11 ай бұрын
Regardless of how well a bike "feels" I recommend anyone who rides a lot get a proper bike fit. I have two bikes . Same Specialized saddle on both of them but both saddles are a different size. When we did the fit, the slight difference in geometry between the bikes resulted in different pressure points through the seat bones. This was alleviated with different saddle sizes. I would never have figured this out on my own. It's a small thing, but add up a bunch of them on the bike and it makes a big difference to your cycling pleasure.
@sir_lander
@sir_lander Жыл бұрын
You truly are a doctor in bike science sir. I believe that you are very correct indeed
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 Жыл бұрын
10:42 How do these saddles perform in the winter? Does the comfort remain in low temps? even down to -10C or below? Also in general 3-5 hour ride? Have you tried carbon saddles? If so how do they compare? are the leather saddle better for my use? Some told me to use carbon saddles. I guess they might not be for me, as I ride all year and even in winter in rain, snow. But I know some use leather wax to protect it. But riding with a bag over the saddle won't work for me. I've not heard of Selle Sideale. So thx for sharing that.
@robbieh.9435
@robbieh.9435 8 ай бұрын
I was waiting for the talk about the chain stay length I got kind of excited when you started talking about Rivendell‘s more relaxed geometry.
@ultraromance
@ultraromance 8 ай бұрын
I am not much on chain stay length -- really depends on how fast and how tight the terrain you encounter --- and if you like hopping over things more easily .... but for pure sitting and cruising with minimal input at speed ---- the riv geo allll the way
@robbieh.9435
@robbieh.9435 8 ай бұрын
Yeah that makes a lot of sense I never even knew there was a difference until a few years ago, I once had a 1980’s Stumpjumper probably had a longer chain stay very long bike large size and rode very nicely that was a shoulda coulda woulda deal I regretted selling it not long after. Dig your videos and get a good laugh out of most of them thanks! @@ultraromance
@mr.fatcyclist5836
@mr.fatcyclist5836 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Finally a scientific explanation of my theories, which (the explanation) I can share with all my imaginary friends over the interweb! Thank you Ron.
@jaames2295
@jaames2295 Жыл бұрын
This entire time I thought that a 26.0 stem would be too big for a 25.4 handlebar! Gah, I've spent so much time looking for 26.0 stems on Ebay, they are tough to find. Thanks for the tip, Ron!
@jackcarter233
@jackcarter233 Жыл бұрын
For me? There is a warmth to steel. Great vid. Fun stuff.
@scottrok13
@scottrok13 7 ай бұрын
Great lesson, explanation, and suggestions!❤
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