Umarex Octane air rifle - AGR Episode

While gas-pistons (also known as gas springs and gas rams) were originally touted as beneficial for airgun hunting since you can leave your gun cocked without fatiguing a metal spring, that's not the only reason you'd want a gas piston. Anyone who enjoys a smooth spring rifle should try a gun with a gas piston. Once you do, you won't ever want to go back to a gun with a metal spring!
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Brand new for 2013 Umarex Octane is the first Reaxis gas spring air rifle Paul reviews this year. More than enough power!

[@TedsHoldOver]

Holy cow, Paul. That was a smokin' group using a "magnum" springer! Nice shooting.

[@DocMustafa]

Ted you’ve been awfully quiet…missing your vids man.

[@iskanderaguilar]

I've testing a Umarex Octane cal 177 and I have to say it's great. Powerful, silent and accurate. However, the scope is very, VERY, cheap and you should either go with the already installed fiber optics sights or get a better quality scope. A little bit on the heavy side but other than this two issues a good rifle altogether. Great for backyard use. Umarex by the way has great support and have been there to help me out with any issue.

[@pyramydair]

Hi Glen, velocity is usually stated at the highest possible FPS. As stated on our website, 1450 fps w/alloy pellets, 1250 fps w/lead pellets. Also, the heavier the pellet, the lower the FPS, and in this video a very heavy pellet was used. Thanks, Pyramyd Air Team

[@davidlomm4424]

Just purchased an Umarex Octane .22 from Pyramid Air :) I took advantage of the payment deal via Affirm that is linked on Pyramid Air website. Pyramid Air service & shipping was INCREDIBLE !... I placed my order online at 1pm Friday & the rifle was delivered to me in Pennsylvania at 3pm the next day !

[@pyramydair]

Sweet! Glad you are happy!

[@yariquelhim9543]

David Lomm

[@PaulCapello]

Thanks, man! Those groups don't come easy, but I practice all day with the big guns like the RX2, 350 & Talon Magnum. I love the challenge!

[@GeorgeGLC-uf8ud]

Great review; One point that I have to make here is that I heard back round music being played while conducting the Sound Test - firing the gun. A noise free review while the gun is being fired could give a much clear review of just how loud or quiet the gun really fires. I have a large Ruger Air Magnum and I am sure it "Thumps" louder out of the Piston than this rifle. I fire sub sonic grains - over 21 grains. Just was hoping someone could really point how quiet the reaction is of the Piston pushing the Air to the Pellet. Thanks

[@PaulCapello]

I don't have the 135. However, I do have the .22 cal Hatsan 125TH. I spent many hours shooting and evaluating it. The mechanics are rough, and there is a good amount of discoloration and rust on the metal parts. I could not get satisfactory groups at 25, 20, and 15 yards, despite feeding it 9 types of pellets, many of which have worked on my other magnum spring rifles. I tried different holds and trigger controls, with little or no success. Your experience may be better. Good Luck!

[@whiff1962]

Okay, I am going to say it. I have owned and shot my share of gas piston break barrels, and I must say, this is by far the best gas rammed bb I have yet had the pleasure to own and shoot. A solid, silent, and strong shooter.

[@sheamertens1704]

Coolest intro seen by any channels so far!

[@MikeUman]

Looks to be a great product. If I'd seen this before I bought my Hatsan 125TH, this is the one I'd be shooting now. Guess it's time to start saving coins again. :) BTW, I love the new format. Looks very slick, and, professional. Well done.

[@PaulCapello]

Joshua, the .22 is going to have the knock down power for game up to the size of raccoon & rabbit. It all depends on the type of quarry you're interested in. .177 is plenty for birds and squirrel.

[@gopherstate1]

I got some real good groups with my Hatsan 125 Sniper using the H&N Field Target 16.36 grain pellets. As accurate as my Octane with a better trigger and a good cheek rest on the stock. (I replaced the scope)

[@tusmorninginsept911]

Such an excellent review. .It doesn't get any better..

[@chagotron69]

Good advise at the end ! Very well !

[@clintbellamy2663]

Man i wish someone had the same data on the octane .177 guess ill have to break down and buy a chrony.

[@peteralexben]

a gas ram has a fast lock time ,but a good spring can be cocked for long times to , ive once cocked for testing a diana 350 magnum ,let it be for 3 months not much power loss.and a gas ram can get leak like a spring can break ,and most of the time you need more cocking effort with the ram for the same power output , and the mass and of the spring wil help to mantain the piston at the peak pressure longer, thats why a springer can be stronger with the same effort as a gas ram

[@mapbike]

nice review, I'm thinking this Octane will be a good choice in .22 cal and then for the .25 I think I will go with the Hatsan 125 Sniper, i enjoy my PCP .22 rifle but the springer is so much less hassle in the field, so I'll always enjoy the springers...

[@edmundgoban9019]

Hello fellow are grandma I don't know much about the optimal other than whatever red I've never had a chance to shoot the gun but I do own a 125 sniper 25 Cal I can hardly keep my hands off at the gum he's unbelievably powerful accurate and I'll take down anything on four legs just about you can't go on

[@jorge2278435]

hello Paul before you a few questions, I want to say that this excellent video, saw and mention all the details that is evaluated to an air rifle; magnificent presentation. you can make a video with the spring air rifle Hatsan 135 Cal 22? I want to know which break barrel rifle suits me more than I have thought buying Pyramydair and the best pellets for these air rifles. Thanks Paul.

[@jjash5848]

I'm guessing that reversing the piston reduced the recoil. I have used NP rifles and they had too much kick for me.

[@shawndubay3736]

Hi there. I have a Rugar impact .22 looks very similar to this rifle. Has the silence air system but is not quiet at all. If you have any suggestions or ideas on how to make this rifle as silent as possible would love to hear your thoughts on it. I'm hunting pest animals with very good hearing. Thank you for your great video I enjoyed it.

[@noodle050]

Might be when you compare it to a Gamo or Crosman. The price is really low when you look at all the things you get with this rifle

[@therookietrail8626]

great video man liked it a lot, very professional

[@PaulCapello]

I'd have to say the Octane. Smoother mechanics and better fit & finish.

[@juliocastillo2362]

How do you recharge it or what parts need to be replaced when the rifle gets weak ? I've always use spring rifles and I know I have to replace the spring inside of them but I dont know what to do with this gun when it starts to lose strenght. I really want to buy the umarez in both calibers 4.5 and 5.5 because I've heard that its one of the best air rifles out there

[@chindas12]

WOW 0 views O.O Nice vid, as always :D

[@andreshernandez9182]

Hello. I'm going to start shooting with pellets air rifles. I've 2 optinos, Umarex Octane and Swiss Arms Tac1T, both in 0.22 cal. Which one will be the best option?

[@joshdudeguy2830]

Since you've reviewed the Octane, can you tell me which caliber it would be best to get it in? I would like as quite as possible but keep plenty of knockdown power for pests and accuracy is a must.

[@davisam24]

Great Video!

[@PaulCapello]

The trigger needs improvement, but it's usable. It's curious that he would think otherwise.

[@SAVAGE308SNIPER]

Great vid

[@dominator2354]

hey you should do a review of the .22 cal umarex fuel

[@acedragon6592]

JUST DO A SEARCH. I VIEWED IT BEFORE THIS. I HAVE THE FUEL IN 22 CAL. LOVE IT. THE GUY DOING THE VIDEO SAID THE TRIGGER WAS CREEPY, BUT MINE IS LIKE SILK. I CAN STAND AND HIT MY TARGET WHERE I POINT IT. USING THE ATTACHED BI POD, IT MAKES LONER RANGE SHOTS EASIER TO HIT/. IT'S ABOUT $50.00 LESS THAN THE OCTANE.

[@enduromaseti1651]

which is the right scope for the recoil of a gas piston rifle? on pyramidair

[@alihussein3260]

wow i love that intro very nice

[@XxlolopopXx]

Love your vids man.

[@lorenzovalenzuela]

This video is so professional looking. Do you make videos for a living?

[@andeh3]

Would you prefer the Umarex Octane .177 or the Gamo Silent Stalker Whisper .177?

[@erinquave5894]

Is it true that u can only use a air gun scope on an air gun and not a rifle or shotgun scope.

[@xxnewfieswagxx]

hey Paul, just wondering if u have tried the Winchester 1028.if u have whats your opinion?

[@hunterdevastating4555]

Nice gun

[@glenwilliamson7606]

hi, I noticed the .177 cal did fall short of claimed fps, but do you know what speed it will shoot with say an h&n 10.65 grain pellet, and a 13 grain monster pellet?

[@glenwilliamson7606]

hi paul, could you review, or mabey tell me an estimate, of the kind of speed the .177 cal of this gun would get with 10 to 13 grain pellets? im thinking of buying the gun, but now im not sure which caliber after looking at airgunwebs vid of the .177 cal. I understand they used 5.56 grain h&n's, I would like to know the speed at which the gun would produce with 10.65 grain barracuda match, and jsb monsters at 13.43 grains. thank you for replying if so.

[@joshpearson4899]

Hi AGR another great review. I'm looking to buy a new break barrel rifle. Probably .22 as I'm looking to shoot rabbits at about 35-40 yards. I was wondering what you'd recommend. I've seen gamo silent stalker, whisper fusion pro, this, a rws Diana 34 or a crosman with nitro piston. Which one to go for?? Any advice would be great thx

[@tinkerman9434]

hey Paul,what gun did u like more, the Benjamin trail NP2.22 or the octane?

[@lieutenant-dingo7237]

Definitely !

[@jarredseymour5011]

just curious what would you recommend for small to medium game hunting as far as accuracy reliability durability stopping power and overall quality? i am stuck between the umarex octane .22 or the gamp silent stalker whisper .22

[@fcsthememe7987]

I have the Elite but , I still prefer the Benjamin Vaporizer for some reason.

[@MikeUman]

Thanks!

[@dato24]

is there any way to buy only .22 barrel i have .177 version and i want to convert it

[@robalan57]

Did you like the scope? What could you recommend that cost less than $300 as an upgraded scope?

[@noodle050]

Rick said that the trigger was pretty good but indeed the guard is too close

[@jesusulloa5099]

than i love my father for teaching me a 12 year old safety how did u zero the scope

[@guitar6413]

Which rifle do you believe is of better quality, the hatsan 125 or the umarex octane??

[@wildhog3217]

HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE UMEREX FUEL .177, PLEASE DO

[@T-800_Im_Not_A_Robot]

Between umarex octane and Hatsan 125 sniper vortex???

[@leonelenriquemolinamurillo392]

Dear srs: First of all excuse my bad english way of writing, but I need you to help me to solve a problem I am having. I have a brand new Umarex Octane Elite .22. I am trying to calibrate the scope but with no positve results. I dont know what to do. I had practice 3 ways of calibrating the scope and I can did it. Would you recommend me something else?

[@Gamo4life]

How much better is this gun than the Gamo silent stalker?

[@Rob_Tradbowhunter]

Hi im looking into getting a new air rifle. and ive been really considering the hatsan 125 .25 but now, after looking at the octane .22 i maybe rethinking. I am very familar with shooting air guns, but i hunt small to medium game. From squirrels up to foxes and coyotes. Would the octane get the job done at 50 to 60 yrds or would it be better to go with the hatsan .25? Thanks

[@MrAbcdefghijklm1nop]

***** I wouldn't get the hatsan 125 .25 i have it an it is very inaccurate the spring makes the recoil insane so it's very hard to get any type of good grouping. Im waiting for my octane to come in the mail hoping to get better results from this gun. Because i used the hatsan 125 for hunting squirrels and it definitely has the power but the accuracy just isn't there.

[@Rob_Tradbowhunter]

Justin Sellers have you tried the webley patriot .25? The reviews on it seem real good. i just prefer a thumb hole.

[@MrAbcdefghijklm1nop]

***** No I haven't tried the webley but my hatsan is the 125th version and I agree I prefer the thumb hole. I could have just gotten a bad hatsan 125 or I may be shooting the gun incorrectly or something but I just can't get a good grouping at 20 yards. The power is definitely there though it goes clean through thick steel fuel cans front and back and slams into ply wood behind it.

[@Rob_Tradbowhunter]

man all i can tell ya, contact who you bought it from. ive searched and searched for guns. And the hatsan seems to be one of the best ones to get. And seein's how these guns are heavy the thmb would help would help with the accuracy. I havent bought one yet. i just been reviewing them trying to figure out which would be the better buy.

[@Rob_Tradbowhunter]

one guy thats been helping me is rick utsler. His website is Airgunweb.com and hes straight up guy.

otimo video.

[@pnotuner1]

I do not understand how having MORE mass moving in the chamber can possibly reduce recoil or increase velocity. Maybe some engineer can explain for us how that equates.

[@whiff1962]

I am no engineer, but as far as giving more mass to the end moving the piston, I would think that adding that extra mass (weight) would decrease the amount residual air that would act as a cushion, thus causing the piston to rebound? Most of the mass in the strut would be where most of the metal and other materials are found, and so, launching this end of the gas spring is going to give more power.

[@Trashfished]

Sweet!!

[@valerycamposarias8922]

Los rifles Umarex son buenos?

[@austingross481]

***** im looking at a umerex octane and a umerex surge. What would u pick? thanks

[@ScuffedEngineer]

I have the Ruger Blackhawk Elite (same as surge but with licensing from Ruger) and I enjoy it and can shoot it all day, but it is on the louder side. So if you live in a place where you're neighbors complain about noise pollution a lot then get the octane as it is much quieter (say 24x if you go by how db work). That's just my opinion and really it's all up to you

[@OldAccountUser]

Shadow umerex surge is goot but the octane need a license in canada i think? That the reason that myself im look at the surge

[@mawfaw8521]

How do you recharge it?

[@5421443]

Amigo tengo un rifle de esos Umarex octan 5.5 cual es la mejor munición para rifle

[@pyramydair]

Joshua - I would suggest the .22 caliber Umarex Octane. Thanks, Pyramyd Air Team

[@jerrypruett8870]

Semper Fi!

[@Sun-Fl0w3r-321]

How many shots until it's broken in?

[@ScuffedEngineer]

Depends on the rifle can be from 100 up to 500 shots... sometimes more

[@noodle050]

hello governor

[@viccallaway7851]

can I leave my umarex octane cocked for 6 hours without hurting it

[@pyramydair]

If it had a spring piston, the answer would be 100% no, but we are talking about a gas piston. We would say that it probably would not hurt to have a gas piston under compression for 6 hours, but we wouldn't recommend it.

[@viccallaway7851]

Thanks for the information

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

pyramydair + I've stored my .22 Benjamin Prowler cocked, and near the screenless window, ready for tunneling pests, for a year, firing occasionally. It hasn't lost velocity. A formula 1 car engineer, Smith, wrote that a correctly mfgd spring will never wear out. Automobile valve springs last 200,000 + miles, set for months under strain, yet perform within tolerances. I've left my spring-powered Winchester Daisy cocked for months. Something is fishy about the claims against air rifle springs. Were they all mfgd by American Motors in 1965? And if, against all odds, all these springs are defective, what an opportunity for a spring mfg company. Has anyone done a survey of many existing guns? A comprehensive spring cycle test?

[@glenwilliamson7606]

as in a JBS exact monster.

[@carsmax]

what fot pound this have in 22 cal?

[@wildhog3217]

which do you prefer, the Octane on Benjamin Trail NP2?

[@randeepkang8780]

Did you buy the Benjamin trail np2. If so is it a great gun?

[@wildhog3217]

+Randeep Kang Kang Yeah, I've purchased the Benjamin Trail NP2 and find it to be a fine air rifle, but however it seems to loose zero and accuracy at times. Its very quite and the trigger takes some getting used to. I've had different scopes on it and the results were the same. The Walther Terrus .22 however is an excellent gun by far. You may purchase it at Walmart.com in the US for $190 to $240 depending on your selection. It will not disappoint. Easy to load and stays on target, it's quite a tact driver. May have less power than most rifles, but what is power if you can't hit the target. Has enough power to take down small game such as rabbits, and squirrels out to 35 yards or more. Invest in a good scope, cause this gun deserves it.

[@stephenjray1988]

Thats funny him talking about that air riffle having so much recoil it might throw the scope off lol I use a shooter's edge 50mm witch is 69 bucks never failed me so this air gun must have more recoil than my 300 or it is a really really cheap scope

[@mapbike]

Spring and Nitro piston powered air rifle are much harder on scopes than most center fire rifles, springer air rifles jerk the scope backwards and then forward very quickly and that is why even some of the high end firearm scope can be trashed on an air rifle, they aren't designed for the type of recoil springer type air guns put on a scope.

[@stephenjray1988]

Well i just can't see how it would jerk the scope more than a big caliber center fire. They will come up with a air riffle scope if they haven't already just like they do for shotgun and muzzle loading guns just so the customer will spend more money thinking he needs one their are no differences unless you get a mill dot scope that is calibrated for the velocity for a one of them i don't believe any of that stuff to be honest with you we have shot Bushnell Leopold and now shooting shooters edge and by far the best scope for money their on my 300 .50 cal muzzle loader with magnum load and slug gun with 3" magnum shells just find it hard to believe that a air gun is harder than a center fire' shot gun , muzzle loading.

[@ScuffedEngineer]

stephenjray1988 It's very strange yes but airguns destroy scopes in a special way. The bundled scope I got with my break barrel air gun the Teflon coating on it had come off from the scope rings moving forward and the ring that keeps the rear lens in place had been moved. Air guns vibrate when shot, move backwards then forwards and cause scopes to move and vibrate like they aren't built for unless they are shock proof. So you can get a "air gun" scope for about 70 bucks or 80

[@pnotuner1]

I have posted a video of Break Barrel Recoil in Slow Motion. The GAMO rifle in it has broken 4 scopes.

[@ScuffedEngineer]

Yeah, don't use any leupolds or anything like that, need airgun spec scopes or contracted military scopes

[@FirearmTutorials]

Great video production. On thing that confused me: powerful recoil from the Octane? What kind of scope couldn't handle a pellet gun? I guess I'm just used to real guns, but even a cheapo scope would hold a zero on a .22LR

[@markcol13]

Can i trust pyramid air?

[@mtnviewtow88]

im sure it's a good air gun but sorry it don't shoot that fast you foregot to show the reloading use a gamo!

[@tranduyet5622]

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[@taurus66]

What's the price

[@pyramydair]

$219.99. www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Umarex_Octane_Air_Rifle_Combo_Gas_Piston/3098

[@PutzModified]

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[@Strutingeagle]

Do they make a Umarex super charger gasoline or a turbo charged diesel?

[@lampshadesoapmaker678]

Mine runs off Bio-diesel. More Eco friendly that way.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

Strutingeagle + That's It! You got it! A Roots-powered .177 pellet pusher.

[@joshdudeguy2830]

quiet*

[@พันแสงเหลื่อมอุไร]

อยากได้

[@CarlosFernandez-pt2od]

Where do all this videos find the cheese ass not quite metal enough instrumental crap that they play for the intro and the background, is there a company that makes crapy guitar music for this kind of videos?

[@americanson2174]

THE TRIGGER IS HORRIBLE, would be a great shooter otherwise, gritty , stiff , unpredictable..

[@VictorPoulin]

Agreed, did you ever end up fixing yours

[@recojeff.z4517]

webly VMX is better sorry!

[@peteralexben]

octane is a strange name for a gun ,high octane fuel is in reality slower burning because its developed for engines with higher compression and they are more likely to get a oncontrolled combustion and that can destroy the pistons and cilinderhead ,octane is not a dope but a scale to compare

[@taurus66]

looks cheap

[@dhgumbo]

It's an ugly rifle.

[@williamadrian1760]

Then buy a slingshot 👽🤬‼️

[@sixgunsun]

Best airgun review, maybe best gun review I have ever seen. New Subscriber ;o)