Unbelievable 'Duel' Discoveries: Daisy Duke's Parts Uncovered

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[@LordOrwell]

99% of cars from that year range had five-bolt wheels. I used to work on cars and the full-size cars all had five lugs.

[@RetroRecipes]

@@LordOrwell And 10 outer hole designs with distinct bevelling on one edge?

[@theatheisthammer]

Excellent adventure so what if you didn't find what your looking for, you had fun doing it, now you mentioned it was from a film shot 30 years before,? .. did you find out which film as it could be a gem, maybe it wasn't the one you were looking for but maybe it's it's own special treasure. Could you not get any other information?

[@sharpgage6512]

@@LordOrwell looks like that rusty speed wagon roof been blasted with shot gun pellets at some point. might be a clue to the film it was in ?

[@richardthomas1566]

The wheel is from a mid 30s Plymouth and some dodge plymouth trucks

[@chrisleggett685]

The doors on the truck have square corners. Not round like the cab that's down there. The wheel is a rally wheel from a dodge or Plymouth duster, dart or demon and could be a spare from the car but not likely as a spare would likely be a regular wheel and not a Rallye wheel. The Peterbilt can and hood were made from aluminum and won't be rusty if found.

[@Retroaria]

Exactly, I have the same opinion. And after so many years, another's cars and trucks may have the same destination.... buried in that cliff. At the local transit police office, maybe some records about traffic crashes could be found?

[@chiriematthieu]

Yep, totaly agree, the truck does not have a rear window either, this cab do. Even the shape of the cab is wrong, the truck cab altought with rounded edge is quite square, not bulbeuse like that. Finaly the cab is way to small. A truck cab is much biger.

[@Maxmaj0r]

Did you guy even watched the video until the end?

[@Retroaria]

@RKMaxmaj0r sometimes happens. The desire to comment is great hahaha

[@Leatherface123.]

I believe the truck did have a rear window, but it was covered by a fake AC unit to house a camera inside the cab

[@chuck_machine]

The truck cab you found appears to be an early Chevy (47-55) pickup. Most likely, it was simply pushed over the edge when it was deemed worn out. Remember, these were just old vehicles and weren't worth anything. I can say from many years of hiking - it's pretty common to find old cars of that era at the bottom of sharp turns from a road above. There was no recovery effort.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

It seems to be a common filming area though, so regardless of reason it could still be from a movie/tv show.

[@manaccept145]

dashboard does not match with Chevy

[@ianhoyt2638]

@@manaccept145 The back window doesn't match either, well, all of it doesn't match because it isn't a chevy from that year.

[@jaybarber68]

@@ianhoyt2638 I’m guessing it’s a B model Mack.

[@ostrich67]

I was guessing B series Mack as well.

[@brentdillberg3647]

That was fun to watch. As a mopar guy, they def wouldn’t stuff a rally wheel on a four door valiant behind a hubcap, but it would definitely be on a roadrunner.

[@Milner62]

Hard to say, not a mopar but the original owner of my El Camino covered up the factory body colored rally wheels with metal chrome spoked hubcaps. Some times people didnt like the sporty look and would throw hubcaps on even if we think its weird to do.

[@jamessouthworth1699]

The Mopar rally wheel looks like a big bolt wheel. I think the Plymouth Valiant was still a small bolt pattern in 1971. It wasn't until front disc brakes became standard equipment that the Plymouth Valiant went to the larger bolt pattern.

[@TheGraytOutdoors]

That’s a Chrysler rally wheel, fairly pricey original wheel that would’ve possibly came on an R/T model or other special edition Chrysler products and Daisy’s Road Runner (which at that time was a 71/72 Satellite with the wrong year Roadrunner stripe) had chrome wagon wheels by the time that episode came out. But a possibility that it could’ve been in her trunk as a spare but I doubt the stunt crew would’ve left anything in it. The valiant in duel was a 4 door, steel wheels, with hub cabs, an extremely unlikely candidate for a rally wheel to have been in the trunk or on the car. But I love the passion for the exploration!!

[@kevinwallis2194]

yep, i own3 valiants and they came with stock black wheels.

[@Mel.Roswell]

Watching this video and the previous one brings a smile to my face - I went to the same levels in hunting down filming locations and the such for the 1996 movie Twister. Thankfully, the crew and managers I found that worked the production were more than helpful - they were honestly amazed someone was asking them about it! Scouring archived maps, asking locals, and spending who-knows how many hours squinting at screenshots trying to hunt down stuff... I spent 3 months trying to locate a filming location that was only in the movie for two seconds - but I found it! Watching this makes me wish that it was possible to film the endeavor I undertook - but it's nice to see there's others out there with passion like me for finding these type of things. Plus, as a fellow collector of 70s/80s audio and entertainment equipment - you've got a new subscriber.

[@DieselCreek]

I believe the cab you found belonged to a B model Mack truck. Good adventure anyhow!

[@Hellommg]

@@DieselCreek Yo te d sigo, eres el mejor 🤯

[@GeorgeLiquor]

4:17 That's a Mopar "D slot" wheel. Not stock for a Valiant, but definitely could have been thrown on there when outfitting the vehicle for stunt driving

[@jamesclark2663]

I cannot believe the coincidence of this video. I was just having a random thought back to a time in high school when our psych teacher was explaining memories and used her personal example of how she would recall Dennis Hopper's name in the movie Duel. At the time I was surprised to hear that because I used the exact same process to recall the exact same person's name from the exact same film. Not two minutes after having this thought pop into my head, twenty years after the fact, I decide to check out my youtube feed just to see this video...

[@jamesclark2663]

Dunno why I said hopper when I meant Weaver. Guess the trick doesn't work as well for me these days ;)

[@craigpimlott204]

Dennis weaver was in duel .Dennis hopper was in easy rider👍

[@jamesclark2663]

@@craigpimlott204 Indeed you are correct. I realized my mistake right after I posted it lol. My initial sentiment still stands though - I was thoughly surprised to see this in my feed mere minutes after thinking of that. I was even thinking about how they had to go out and find a truck suitable to play the part and was considering it likely had long rusted away since the filming of that movie.

[@stevedickson5853]

​@@jamesclark2663it was already rusting away in the movie so wouldn't have taken long lol

[@thecommodoredecker]

I was gonna say hopper? Lol it was dennis weaver! But the same for me almost, i just randomly thought of this movie and was watching clips of it and this came up

[@lukemallory7832]

I watched Duel when I was about 5 with my family. It scared the absolute crap out of me and I haven't watched it since. That was 35 years ago!

[@terrywalters7775]

Regardless of the outcome of the search, those videos are some of the most entertaining I've seen on KZbin. Good job!

[@Bounty_Hunter84]

Just found your channel today. I was born in 84 so Duel was 13 years old by that time. It was the early 2000s or maybe 1999 I was in HMV in Dublin a CD and DVD store. And my hobby was DVD hunting old Dvds from the 60s 70s 80s. And 28 30 years after it was made. There was the TV movie on the shelf for I think I paid 7 or 8 quid for it. Watched it and loved it. And now its 2023 and it is 50 years old!! Thanks for the video I subbed and will look forward to your content new and previous :D

[@coffeecuparcade]

The adventure itself was awesome, but all of the findings in the end are amazing! Much more than just "The Duel", but expanded to more history! Loved this series! Do more please!

[@RetroRecipes]

More already filmed and in the pipeline!

[@coffeecuparcade]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! @@RetroRecipes

[@ComicSanserif]

Hahahah what an adventure: setting out for the Duel truck, thinking you found it, finding a cabin that differs from the truck, but ultimately finding a rim that either belonged to David Mann's car or Daisy Duke's car, wow! To be honest, touching Daisy Duke's hubcaps trumps finding the Duel truck, but only marginally 😉 Well done sir!

[@LongIslandMopars]

Daisy had two Road Runners. The 71 that went over the cliff had chrome aftermarket wheels. The 73 had factory Magnum 500s.

[@Reed-Publications]

I absolutely love your videos on finding filming locations. The next time you're in England, you should try to find the location of the truck that fell off the cliff at the quarry (in West Sussex) in the movie "Hell Drivers".

[@asp383]

I doubt anything would remain at the crash site, as it was a working quarry and cement works up until 1991 and was further developed and expanded in the years after Hell Drivers was filmed and is now owned by The Dudman Group. As for the other quarry site, there seems to be some confusion due to lack of finding a Warren Hill Quarry in Sussex, although Truleigh Hil exists above Upper Beeding, but I know part of the Golding Barn 4x4 centre (now only known as Golding Barn Raceway), had a disused quarry as part of the site, which was regarded as the hardest/most damaging, as my dad's Range Rover was the family car, we never went into the quarry, so not 100% sure of it's exact location in relation to the main part of the site (and again, I'm going back to late 1980s/early 1990s, s memory is a bit hazy, but while there is a disused chalk quarry on Truleigh Hill, which is accessible from the Golding Barn site, but I do remember it was a bit o a drive from the main site to the quarry. The Golding Barn Industrial Estate was established in the 1980s from farm buildings, although, this site may be partially built on a former quarry.

[@Reed-Publications]

@@asp383 You're probably right to say that nothing remains on site, but then again you never know. IMDB says that they used the disused site on Steyning Road, Upper Beeding, to film the crash scene, so maybe there's still a chance. 🤔

[@canturgan]

I love that film. It's insane.

[@KingSoftwareWizard]

Wonder what happened to the bus that went over the cliff (and Cliff) at the end of 'The Young Ones'.

[@Reed-Publications]

@@KingSoftwareWizard Now that's a great question! 🤔

[@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks]

I wish you'd finished that episode with a short rendition of "The Good Ole Boys" it would have summed up the two of you extremely well. Yes, Daisy Duke was a compelling viewing pleasure in my days of growing up. I only really ever watched that programme for her appearances. I have no idea what went on in the rest of the programme. I was a very focused child. LOL. A great adventure Perifractic, you both did very well indeed. 👏 Offshoots of this adventure would be a new horror film based on the resurrection of the demonic driver of Duel. A very impressive Pimp My Ride follow-up, or an episode of Scrap Yard challenge. "KITTesla and the Rise of the Demon Driver" sounds like a good title for a film. Keep the nostalgia coming.

[@Skeksi_Man]

Wow incredible 2 part video - I was glued to my screen the whole time as I’ve always wondered about the wreckage of the duel vehicles. I’d love to see a part 3 focusing on what movie the wreckage you found came from….

[@theinstructor2687]

Duel is one of my favorite older movies. I quite enjoyed it, back in the day, and still occasionally watch it. Thanks so much, for the two videos and your hard work. I really enjoyed this!

[@RichMander1]

Check the bolt pattern on that wheel. Pre ‘73 A bodies had a 5x4” bolt pattern. That rallye wheel you found looks like a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The Duel car wore hubcaps, which means it had black steelies under them.

[@Milner62]

while that would generally be true, some times hubcaps would have been put over more desireable wheels by the owner of said vehicle. I found out my El camino still sports the body colored factory rally wheels but the original owner hid them away behind metal chromed spoked hubcaps that he put on when he bought the car he didnt like the rally wheels.

[@spokanetomcat1]

My whole family watched this movie when it was on that night. We were glued to the TV that night.

[@sbf_fox2434]

The Plymouth rally wheel looks similar between the A body and the B body, but there is a telling difference. The A body has a 5 on 4 inch bolt pattern, whereas the B body has a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. I think that wheel is a 5 on 4 1/2" pattern. You could probably match up photos of both bolt patterns of that wheel to the one you found to determine if it fits a 1969 A body.

[@UberLummox]

Right, plus it might be wider than an A body wheel. Looks like it's a deeper dish wheel. But how they thought there was ANY chance the cab was the right one is crazy. It's a split-window, but that's where the similarities end. I figured that out before they did, but these aren't car guys, obviously.

[@hoppinonabronzeleg9477]

Wow so it comes down to PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter) - Not PCB (Printed Circuit boards or Poly Chlorinated BiPhenols) take your pick! TLA Joke! (Three letter Acronym) HOABL

[@masonsnook1583]

A body Mopar did use big bolt pattern if it was a disc brake car I know I own a 74 Plymouth duster that has disc brakesn

[@42lookc]

@@UberLummox The moment I saw the profile of that cab I knew it wasn't the Duel tractor. I thought, "Come on..."

[@PickleDroner]

If it hasn't already been addressed in the comments: great detective work and good catch as it being a Mopar Rallye wheel. However, there were 2 different bolt pattern sizes 1) (nick named Baby bolt pattern) (5x4") and 2) large bolt pattern (5x4.5"). So, just for clarity the Rallye wheel was first used in 1970 so it is relative here. The small bolt pattern was only used on A-bodies (Dodge Darts, Demons, and Plymouth Valiants, Dusters, and Scamps etc..) Also relevant here. Big bolt pattern was was used on the others such as B-Bodies (dodge Coronet, Plymouth Satellites, Road Runners etc) and C-bodies ( Dodge Polaras, Plymouth Furys, and Chrysler Imperials etc) However, with all that said being an A-body aficionado can I tell just by looking? The answer is yes, you have a Big bolt pattern Rallye that would be more likely off Daisy Dukes '72 Road Runner if that actually happened there. (another quick note: Road Runners are performance version based on the satellite) - btw.. no mention of what movie that cab truck could of been a wreckage of years prior?

[@sonnydee4736]

That is one awesome video yall made. I totally respect your hard work and effort trying to locate the wreakage. When you showed the cab the first clue I noticed is the wipers were mounted at the top of the windshield. The Duel truck wipers were mounted at the bottom. Didn't see the holes for the cab clearance lites or air horn

[@yannisgouras4482]

It's not even the right cab the roof on the one that they found is incredibly rounded but the roof on the Dual truck which was a Peterbilt was almost completely flat

[@sonnydee4736]

@yannisgouras4482 yes sir, didn't catch that one. I was looking for the cab light screw holes and the hole for the air horn. When I seen the wipers up top that was a dead giveaway

[@sonnydee4736]

@harrisonashley1631 well I thought that big box in the back window was some kinda A/C unit also but on a documentary I watched they said they had to install a box to hold the camera for the inside veiws of the cab. I imagine they were similating a A/C or swamp cooler for effects

[@TAVOAu]

Top door frames are quite different too. The found wreck has very curved frames, the Peterbilt had very sharp, square ones.

[@CycolacFan]

They definitely winched the vehicles back up the cliff because on the first take the car went over but the truck got caught on the edge, which is why on the screen footage the Valiant is clearly already burnt out before it goes over. Stands to reason there must be some parts from the car and truck still there as you say, but likely it’s all buried now under 50 years of sand or under the vehicles that have been dumped there since. About 15 years back a guy did a video showing a rusty pickup cab and claiming that was the Peterbilt, back then I tried to research what had happened to the Duel vehicles and parts and everyone I spoke to said they had been removed immediately after filming. I bet someone took photos at the time… 🙂

[@RetroRecipes]

I heard that story about the car too but couldn't corroborate it and it's strange it's not mentioned in the making of book which discusses the stunt driver story about only having one take

[@CycolacFan]

@@RetroRecipes is it not in the book? I actually had thought that was where I’d read about it…

[@RetroRecipes]

@@CycolacFan Nope, I only ever read it in online comments, but my standard for presenting info via the channel has to be higher than that. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just can't confirm it did from any first hand source.

[@CycolacFan]

@@RetroRecipes I’ll try to find my source for it, if not DVD commentary or a making of documentary then it must have been a book or magazine article. But I distinctly remember them saying the car went over on fire and the truck got caught on the edge because once the stuntman jumped from the truck it slowed right down. I think perhaps they wanted time for the wind to close the driver’s door. That’s why the door is still open as you pointed out, because he jumped at the last possible second in order to keep the speed up. Why they didn’t use one of their other Valiants I don’t know, maybe only one had the heavy front end damage required.

[@mustardcee3814]

How funny would it have been if he didn't find the dual truck, but stumbled upon an original KITT that he never realised went over a cliff in one of the episodes. Be interested to know what it is they did find though.

[@MrH77]

48.11% of me was thinking, how could they just leave all that stuff there in 1971, and 51.89% of me was thinking, amazing, they left stuff there for us to see 50+ years later! Some great finds in that hallowed ground.

[@joshuauriarte452]

Here's something people should know about the movie industry. It is required that all movies clean up after themselves. It's also required that all production companies repair any damages they have made. One thing I can say is that some movies have paid for road improvements or helped develop a community which you'd think wouldn't happen. Some stuff will stay, but the majority has to be cleaned up.

[@olikat8]

The wheel is a Chrysler "Rally" wheel. If it was 5 lug on 4" (center-on-center), it's from a '70-'72 A- body. Dart, Demon, Duster, Scamp or Valiant...but it was an option. The movie car has the standard wheels, with hubcaps and they are 4.5" wide. Rally wheels are 5.5" wide

[@CarsandCats]

It's not a 5 on 4" I can tell from the photo. I've had that bolt pattern on a '71 Duster. It's a 5 on 4.5" and is a B/E-body wheel.

[@olikat8]

@@CarsandCats or '73-up A body...

[@WahidKhan-r5m]

Honestly, this is one of your best videos , ever !! I watched both episodes back to back , brilliant!! Please do more like this...

[@zensibleone2295]

While I did want to believe it was the truck from duel, the alignment of the cab seemed a little bit too convenient, unless there were other endings planned and they needed the cab in a certain postion for certain shots and so planted a second truck. The adventure was still worth it, as you'd never have been content with the answers from the production crew without going there yourself. Part of me thinks they give those responses to stop the treasure hunters pestering the land owners.

[@Milner62]

Cab looks way too small for a tractor truck cab it looks more like a passenger truck cab of the same time period. If it is the same cab its possible over time everything got washed down and repositioned.

[@gator2813]

@@Milner62 The rear window was different. That's probably a GMC or Chevy 5 window cab.

[@stephanepiquemal8297]

It's not the discovery you expected but you still found something. It was an epic hike though :)

[@threynolds2]

The box on the back of the Duel cab was not for an air conditioner. It was for a film camera for in-the-cab- shots.

[@acdii]

Just remember as you are tumbling down the hill to yell "As you Wish". BTW that cab is from a 1947 Dodge Pickup. It had a split screen with the wipers above the windshield and matches the curves seen including the rear window.

[@manaccept145]

dashboard does not match

[@vitajazz]

I want to know if the cab that was found can actually be traced to a movie 30-year previous to Duel, to which the landowner alluded...

[@RetroRecipes]

Me too!

[@TheInsultInvestor]

I could tell it wasnt the same cab as soon as I saw it

[@jimsix9929]

yes it is an older truck, it would be nice to see the movie , I hope someone remembers it

[@warlockborn1031]

The cab looks like its from a early 602 B model Mack truck.

[@GrumpaDirt]

I cant wait to see @ViceGripGarage out here for a will it run episode.

[@billybrown2703]

I'm 38 and Duel is one of my all time favourites. Thanks for going out having a look, this is something I would try lol new subscriber here, Midlands UK 👍

[@bradpeterson7957]

Just bought DUEL on 4K! One of my favorites! So I'm glad I saw this!! 👍👍

[@fgaviator]

That was wheely a lot of fun... The cliff hanger took quite a few turns. Keep the wheels spinning! 👍

[@chrisheffernan6600]

I found it exciting to watch the adventure of tracing down the exact location where the Plymouth and the Truck went over and landed. Those parts found may or may not be from the movie. How ironic that Daisy Duke's yellow car went over the same area? Tough hike, glad I wasn't on it. Thanks for the entertainment.

[@jaymac7203]

I was only gonna watch a couple of minutes of this but you had me completely hooked lol great video man 😊

[@willip66]

I love it, guys. That hike looked treacherous, and although you didn't find the Duel truck, to find and visit the actual location was amazing...

[@davidgutting4317]

My grandparents had a ranch in Carlyle Canyon near Thousand Oaks near where they filmed most of the dukes of hazard episodes. I got to go and watch a couple episodes filmed out there. They were very careful to clean up and cart out anything that couldn’t be fixed or refilmed. A lot of films and TV shows were done out there, MASH, the Bionic Man, a bunch of police movies from the 70s and 80s. If that’s where you were looking, there is a good chance you have something from one of the shows.

[@gator2813]

The primary Duke's set was on Placerita Canyon in Santa Clarita. It's called The Golden Oak Ranch now. But they could have filmed some episodes in Thousand Oaks as well.

[@frigglebiscuit7484]

on the mopar rallye wheel: that wheel you found at the cliff, looks like its a large bolt pattern(5x4.5"). the a body mopars like the valiant from the movie, had a smaller bolt pattern(5x4"). that wheel found at the cliff is from a b or e body. daisy dukes roadrunner could have had wheels like that, with the bolt pattern.

[@culttelevision]

I needed a stiff whisky (in my head) after this video. Thank you for the rather 80s tension build

[@derekstocker6661]

Looks good guys, well done on the search and what you found in any case. There is as you probably know a guy in the States that has a almost perfect copy of the Duel truck, it is on YT somewhere and looks absolutely amazing! Keep up the good and most interesting work!

[@Applecompuser]

Great topic. Duel is a real classic.

[@billykidd2509]

Unfortunately that is not the Dual Peterbilt 281. It looks like an old Chevy cab or maybe a Dodge cab that is the wrong back window and doors for to be a Peterbuilt.

[@pl5624]

There probably wasnt a spare in the car at all as the sound rigs they mounted took up a lot of space in other scenes.

[@kenvaughan6694]

Gary Lofton was the stunt driver/coordinator who was the unseen driver of the menacing 18 wheeler. He is also credited for automotive stunts im the classic 1962 all srar comedy "Its A. Mad Mad Mad Mad World, just watch the opening credits and you'll see. A bit of trivia: The elderly couple in the car that David. Mann flags down for help is the same couple seen in the helicopter together in Close Encounters Of The Third Kind Both movies were directed by Steven Spielberg

[@sd31263]

The man's name was Carey Loftin.

[@CarsandCats]

If that MoPar Rallye wheel is a 14" it is off of an A-body, which the Valiant is. It could have been a spare but certainly was never on the car from the factory. Now if it's a 15", then it is a B or E-Body wheel. The Road Runner is a B-Body.

[@wisteela]

Even though I don't like Duel (or Dukes of Hazard), this is amazing what you've done.

[@robav8or]

Good video fellas! Brings back childhood memories when I first watched that suspenseful flick. If you’re going to go on such hikes you need to be better prepared: Proper shoes, gloves, good quality hiking stick to help you keep your footing and NOT fall on your ass, and provisions for an overnight should an injury prevent your return. It may have been hot that day but I guarantee the night time temps are brutal.

[@londonroulette]

BRILLIANT BRILLIANT DOCUMENTARY REALLY LOVED THIS!! Duel one of fav films

[@wilbilt]

You might want to check the cliff in what was formerly the Indian Dunes motorcycle park near the junction of Hwy 126 and I-5. I believe that is where the Daisy Duke car went off. It was a popular filming location and sadly where Vic Morrow and two child actors perished. There were scenes from Uncommon Valor filmed there. Indian Dunes was also the regular filming location for Black Sheep Squadron aka Baa Baa Black Sheep.

[@gator2813]

According to IMDB you are correct.

[@iestyndavies7287]

Awesome video. You now need to try and find Basil Fawlty’s 1967 Austin 1100 Countryman! 🌴

[@georgebeaton4544]

Your tenacity and geekiness is inspiring 👍🏻

[@jonmyers8046]

Not sure if you're my hero or nuts for that journey 😅. Either way I admire your persistence. Obviously they're just trying to get rid of you because they don't want to be bothered... Jerks 😡. That Valiant had little baby narrow wheels. I'm thinking that wheel could've been from Daisy's car. Give it some time. Now that these two part videos are out there, someone will eventually contact you and give you a straight story on everything. I've seen this with KR Historians channel. Thumbs up to all of your hard work and dedication! 👍

[@MudSluggerBP]

The film might be The Wages of Fear, had 2 trucks in with similar cabs to what you found.

[@joelsacca3574]

Wages of Fear was shot in the south of France. Violent Road was the American remake.

[@MudSluggerBP]

@@joelsacca3574 looks like the same trucks used in both, this could be the one.

[@DolittleMccoy]

Daisy's roadrunner didn't wear rally wheels... There are photos of the cast standing next to the roadrunner after the cliff scene. One in particular with Sonny Shroyer looking through the window of the wrecked remains.

[@RetroRecipes]

Can't find it anywhere 😬 Can you post a link?

[@vhfgamer]

The spare wheel in a Valiant is the same as the four main wheels. I could snap pictures for you and show you if you like. My Valiant has the exact same hubcaps and wheels that would have been on that Valiant in Duel.

[@Trainboytherailfan]

I have been waiting for episode two and yay you made it

[@TylersNeighborhoodGarage]

Sorry to burst a bubble, but I've had a dozen Valiants and Darts, and the wheel you found didn't come from the '71 Valiant. If it had hubcaps it had plain steel wheels, not the rallye wheel you found. Good stuff though!

[@J.R.in_WV]

As for the engine, I’d feel sorry for whoever drives a truck with a 1674 CAT…..they were really over complicated junk. The worst part is no Jake or other engine brake exists for them. They were Overhead cam, underpowered and now near impossible to get certain parts for. There’s a reason the backup truck with a 335 Cummins was needed and is still running.

[@robertdadabo9076]

Hey Guys, it's my first time watching, and I really enjoy it. I gotta say though, I think that was the dual truck and car pieces. Every picture you showed on video looked exactly the same. Movie studios would have used the same property over and over again to shoot similar scenes at that time. Also back in the 80s The US wasn't so popular when it came to picking up their own trash. If there was a crash down there, they most likely would have left it there and then told you today, that they cleaned it all up so it wouldn't make the company look bad. If they were to tell you today, that all of those pieces were from the truck that they didn't pick up, they would have to deal with environmental organizations and their backlash. The public would also get in on that for littering and destroying the earth... at least from all the quacks. Don't believe everything you read that people post, that one guy could have worked for the company and was trying to cover their butts, or it could just be a fan that new certain points like you guys do. That e-mail also makes it seem like they were getting upset that you were asking questions about it because they were afraid it was going to leak.

[@Imperious685]

Too good to be true, but was a really excellent and interesting video. Enjoyed it immensely. BTW the photo at 15.13 is from an Australian Mopar car meet. The car in the background is the Australian 1967-68 Chrysler Valiant. I owned one back in the late 80's. The styling from the middle backwards was unique to Australia, also came with a 160bhp version of the trusty slant six. The car in the movie is the same year I believe, 1967 or so.

[@sargentppeper]

BIG props for all your hard work finding the Duel clif finale location! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😊

[@James00785]

Amazing video, The adventure and suspense to try to find it, I wouldn't see this as a disappointment, At least you were at the location of the film, some of us can't just fly over there. So I would like to say a big thank you for involving us poor U.K. 80's kids, you are living our dreams, and owning them. Keep up the fantastic work. I felt like I was there with you. Thank You..

[@leafbelly]

Great Video! I love the chemistry between you two. This is just a thought -- and I'm sure you've probably already considered it -- but what about just getting close to the area and flying a drone down in there just to see what's there? It would probably spare you from some hiking and spare your buddy's bum. :)

[@roywhitman7109]

It would appear by the comments that the wheel you found has been identified positively as an early '70's Chrysler rally wheel. That shot up truck cab, however, judging by the shape of the rear window, just might be a late 50's early 60's MACK B model. That's my two cents. Thanks for the adventure!!👍

[@deanmitchell1293]

Similar shape rear window but it’s split into 3 segments and haven’t found anyone that’s identified it yet but hope to

[@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus]

Came in to say that, certainly looks like a B model Mack cab. Those B models were my favorite trucks from a styling standpoint.

[@StrokedGT]

16:23 guys that's actually a 72 Plymouth Scamp, very similar to a 71 Scamp, but it's not a 69 Valiant. Those had a very similar front ends but different body unique to the valiant. The 2 door valiant ended in 1969, in 1970 it somewhat continued as the 1970 Valiant Duster, and in 71 the valiant Scamp arrived but the body used a Dodge Dart 2 door body, like the one in your picture. The body was no longer unique to the Valiant. The duel car is a 4 door 70 or 71 valiant and that is still a body unique to the Valiant. Those wheels would never be found on a 4 door Valiant, those are the rallye wheels and found mostly on performance cars by Chrysler, not 4 door, slant 6 cars

[@qtrmirob]

The wheel you found is a Mopar Rally wheel. If it came from Daisey's Road Runner the bolt pattern would have a 4 1/2". If the wheel came from Weaver's car it would have the Mopar "small bolt pattern" which is 4" and would be for a 14" tire.

[@ScarysReviews]

in the description ''uncover Daisy Duke's parts below a thick bush'' now, THAT is a pun, whether intended or not. Happy to subscribe

[@007gunlogo]

Very cool video. When you were sitting in the cab of the truck, unless I'm mistaken, it appeared the driver's door was closed and intact. As you remember, the driver's door was left open (so the stuntman could jump out) as the truck went over the cliff. Given this, I believe the door would be heavily damaged and perhaos partially ripped from its hinge during the descent into the canyon.

[@michaelschmock6739]

You have without a doubt the coolest You Tube channel!! So glad I found you.

[@darralpphillips]

Hey, great video. I found part one this morning and watched them both. Love the British sense of humour. Great job guys. Love of Australia 🇦🇺

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Hey 180k subs, congrats! Keep up the amazing nostalgia documentaries...!

[@RetroRecipes]

Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹

[@MNDmanIII]

These episodes are cool. What a gem of a show. Fantastic idea for a channel & I love all the cheesy corny humor 😂

[@Lion_McLionhead]

Kind of amazing they made 2 movies in such an unreachable place. Can't believe Spielberg hiked in the same way.

[@RetroRecipes]

I suspect the crane took the crew down one by one, and the cameras. Much quicker to get down the cliff than hike to it.

[@Quacks0]

8:00 I dunno, guys --- sorry to burst your bubble, but that truck-cab looks a lot more rounded than the Duel truck; the cab on it was a lot more squarish, as can be seen at 8:10. The one you found is definitely a large truck, but I don't think it's from the Duel truck. It looks more late-'40's-and-early-'50's-era than mid-fifties (the Duel truck was a '55 model). A lot of the trucks back then had split windscreens, so that's not any indication that it's the same truck. Maybe it was indeed from one of the many destroyed trucks in the "crash and burn endings" films that were popular back in the seventies, but in my opinion, that's definitely not the same one as in Duel.

[@rocco3381]

Daisy’s car was a 71 - the markers look nothing like what you found. The car also had chrome wagon wheels, not rallyes. There are pics of the car after the crash and it clearly has the chrome wagons.

[@aliceinvideo1and]

Do you have a link to those pictures? I can’t find anything at all on Google.

[@Statimtek]

A few comments regarding the rim you found: .1. the Valiant was a ‘71, not ‘69. 2. The Chrysler Rallye rim was offered on the performance cars, ( Dodge Dart 340, Plymouth Duster, Dodge Demon, and some Plymouth Scamps) not a four door sedan, and first year for the Rallye rim was1970, therefore if it was a ‘69 it would not had Rallye rims. 3. The Valiant in the movie clearly had standard black steel rims with full wheel covers. That is what 99% of Valiant 4 doors came with from the factory. Wheel covers were never installed over the Rallye rims ( they were for looks why cover them?) and there was no way to install them over a Rallye rim 4. If you measure the space between the lug nut holes it should be 4” ( A Bodies up until 1973 had a 4 inch bolt pattern. All other MoPars had a 4.5” bolt pattern ) 5. It is highly unlikely that was a spare as it would be mismatched to the rest and a ordinary car would have 4 steelies and one performance rim. 6. If you could confirm the Daisy Duke notion ( the taillight chrome piece was a little mangled to tell if it was from a ‘71-‘72 Roadrunner/ Satellite Sebring ( a few of the cars used could have been Satellite Sebrings as they are identical except for trim) it could have been from that car as Roadrunners were offered with Rallye Rims ( 4.5 on 5 bolt pattern) It does seem coincidental to find a MoPar Rallye rim right there but stranger things have happened.

[@mattcheshire2002ify]

Might have helped if you looked at the date stamp on the wheel. Also I owned a valiant with hub caps and the steelies were not ralley wheels. Those had the center caps and trim rings like the e-body for daisy duke. It looks very narrow though. Would have helped if you looked at the size stamped in it. It had no tyre, it was right there to look at😂

[@kramer26]

Glad you found something eventually, what ever it is, it certainly looks like it's been there 50 years!! One of my favourite films of all time...

[@dariodzimbeg]

Episode 2! Yeah! And PCB stands for: Printed Circuit Board. There, I said it!

[@dngrwllrbnsn_]

polychlorinated biphenyls

[@NorthernChev]

Well, more importantly, the roof of the Duel truck is “removable”. It is bolted on to the cab as that model had different roof options that could be customized by each fleet owner. The truck you found at the bottom of the hill, as you noted was rounded.

[@ScoopDogg]

Outstanding work lads. well done with a LOL as not to spoil it for anyone who hasnt watched the video yet

[@J.R.in_WV]

If anyone wants more Duel truck history you should try contacting the legendary Dan Bruno, previous owner of the surviving Duel truck and cmany other famous movie trucks as well….”Convoy” Macks, “Over The Top” Autocars and plenty more. His

[@ClaremontClassicGarage]

the key to the wheel you found is the bolt pattern. The wheel you found is the 5 on 4-1/2inch bolt pattern used on every chrysler car except Valiants. Valiants used similar wheels but with the unique Valiant/Dart ONLY 5 on 4 inch bolt pattern. The wheel would be from the Road Runner, not the Valiant.

[@72dodge340]

The Valiant had a 4" bolt pattern wheel (Mopar small bolt pattern). The Roadrunner had 4.5" bolt pattern (Mopar large bolt pattern). The Valiant would not have come with Rallye wheels, but of course could have been swapped out, then the wheel covers put over them. You probably have no way of measuring that bolt pattern now without going back, so, keep walking. But if the wheel you saw was 4" bolt pattern, that's how you would know there was no way it was on a Roadrunner.

[@jeffreyrigged]

hub cap wheels where solid steel not rallys. The spare would have been the same way.

[@RetroRecipes]

Interesting. There is actually a way we could check that. Might save it for a follow up.

[@jeffreyrigged]

@RetroRecipes the rally won't hold a hubcap has no way to clip it. As for spare they should use the less expensive wheel as well. Valiant also may have had a temp spare that year. Mopar expert would be able to tell you a 100%.

[@69Dartman]

1969 cars didn't get that rally wheel, 70 and up could get them as a option. My Dart had the wider steel small bolt pattern wheels similar to what the Valiant had on it. I found a set of 70 rally wheels and put on it because they look awesome on it even if it wasn't available for it. I'd say yes, that was from the Road Runner they drove off the cliff much later and I bet it big bolt as only the early A body cars used the small bolt pattern. That wheel is probably worth some money, if it's small bolt it's worth even more as less were made and most were tossed when new for bigger chrome wheels of some sort. And yes, they can't hold hubcaps.

[@sbf_fox2434]

@@jeffreyrigged We had a 1972 Dodge Dart with the small bolt pattern and hub caps. A relative that worked in a service garage gave us a pair of tires mounted on rally wheels. The 1972 full wheel covers fit on the rally wheels without an issue.

[@mr.sowhat3796]

Perifractic: What if there's a driver in there? The driver: AH HA I BEEN WAIT'N FIFTY YEARS

[@VincenzoPentangeli]

Being that the entry level Valiant wasn't required to do any high performance stunts other than being pushed off a cliff, it would not have the rally wheel you found. A spare in the boot would also not be a rally wheel. It did not have a high performance engine either. It would have had a plain steel rim with four non-descript slots at the inner edges. It's been a while since I've seen the movie but I think the plain jane Valiant probably had a 6 cylinder engine (with basic steel rims with hubcaps as shown).

[@grimdesaye6534]

This was Epic thank for your hard work! I hope this Wonderful item of Film History is saved!

[@QuanticChaos1000]

Daisy Dukes car had chromed aftermarket steel wheels when it went over the cliff, not stock rally wheels, Dennis Weavers car had the smaller non-rally wheels with full caps. The trim you found looks to be late 80's Buick headlight trim, I can see part of the fiberglass headlight retainer still on it. Those 2 pieces you said they would never have winched up... well they look to be fabric, nobody's winching pieces of fabric out of anywhere. The truck cab you found is a 1937-40 International, Reo is pronounced Ree-Oh, R.E.O. Speedwagon was a band, the Reo Speedwagon was a truck (And REO stand for the founders initials, Ransom Eli Olds, which I think is why there is always confusion with the vehicle name as well) The thing you found that you thought might be the AC box, looks to be an old oven BTW. You found someones old dumpsite.

[@fromjesse]

Isn't odd that there was already a wrecked truck down there (which is still there) but it wasn't seen in the shots for Dual? Maybe the truck from 30 years prior was going faster and was a bit farther down the slide and they just filmed around it.

[@julianhosking]

I've been counting the days till episode 2!!!!

[@chicoshovelhead]

That's about 45 minutes I'll never get back.

[@jamesmarsh1831]

That's not the truck cab from Duel, the Duel cab was larger and more squared off while the cab you found was a cab from a 50's pickup and it was more round, it may be the site it's not the right truck.

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

Now part 4 is you and Dean go back and dig it out and take it home for yard art

[@nickb5391]

@7.33, that's not the Duel truck, check out the shape of the roof it's totally different & the doors are

[@Eid-yy3ot]

At 13:03, you ask about what movie this truck may have been in? Sir, I will take a guess at the movie with an explanation: I cannot remember the name of the movie; there was a movie where people robbed a bank and they hid in a fuel trailer, which had been cut and welded to provide a space/compartment for the robbers to hide within; the fuel trailer was pulled by a truck with a cab like the one at around 13:00. The police finally stopped the truck by setting up tires for the truck to drive over. However, I think the truck ended up going over a cliff. It has been decades since I have seen the movie, so, I am remembering as best as I can. I think the movie was a 1940s crime drama???