UNBELIEVABLE!! Hoka Mach 6 AFTER 400 MILES

[@nickowen5310]

Have to say, I do love how you run shoes down to their limit. Not enough is said about the environmental impact of buying endless shoes made of synthetic materials, with brands and influencers constantly pushing people to ditch old models that are still perfectly good to run in. More should credence should be given to shoes that last.

[@bev9708]

AGREE!!!!

[@TheFODRunner]

Thanks buddy... I cant do it with every shoe sadly but the ones that really work for me, I will use until I cant use them any more

[@Neilveg]

Great shoe as is the newer Mach X2. I tend to use the X2 on the faster surfaces & the Mach 6 anywhere

[@nicholas5396]

Yes! I get depressed when I look at the size of my running shoes collection just ending up in a landfill. There needs to be a legitimate shoe recycling program in the world.

[@Trenckyherbs]

I've clocked 750km on pavement in my Mach 6. My favourite all rounder shoe and it still has plenty of life left.

[@bev9708]

🎉 YES Andy, my eyebrows certainly shot up when this popped up!!! Bravo Hoka!!!👏This is awesomely good news as I had basically given up on the Mach series , as versatile as they are! My Cliftons have all lasted pretty well, my old Clifton 5 about 1500km!!! Though after about 700/750km all Cliftons start to bottom out at around 25km so get relegated to shorter easy runs and treadmill, though I've got high hopes for my 9s which are still awesome!! Mmmmm Clifton 9!🥰 Makes me wanna go run in it right now!!😂

[@TheFODRunner]

Thanks Bev! Wow you really have done well out of your cliftons, thats amazing mileage!

[@skibidialpharizzlersjj]

Mach 6 is my fave Hoka. It is incredibly lightweight and speedy too. Its grip and stability support is also fantastic. I just purchased another one today because its 50% off 😅 As you said it gives max comfort w/o being too bulky which I liked.

[@robin29991]

Yeah, similar experience as I said on your extra channel yesterday. It lost its responsiveness basically. Now it's all squish but no bounce anymore. Totally fine for me for Easy Runs but definitely not the same. Happened to me at around 500km. Tbh I would maybe have hoped for a little longer lifespan for a 160€ shoe, but huge improvement over the other Hoka RVA shoes.

[@TheFODRunner]

Lets hope the new foam is carried forward now so we can enjoy their other models with a longer lifespan!

[@heymrguitarman7637]

I moved to this shoe recently after feeling max stack were maybe not the solution to some foot issues I suffer from. I find the Mach 6 great for anything from reasonably long zone 2 training runs up to 30km, speed/tempo sessions and anything in-between. It disappears on my foot and matched the ASICS superblast I had before in every department for me. The Mach 6 is a great shoe in my experience

[@TheFODRunner]

Its great isnt it!

[@Jeeeez-ve6jp]

Much appreciate you following up with Mach 6. I just got mine today after watching your video and excited to try them!

[@TheFODRunner]

Amazing, good luck with them!

[@amjid300]

I have the exact same pair and I’m up to 250 miles and still look perfect. This was my first ever pair of Hokas and tempted to get another pair of these. They’re feel so good for easy runs but also good for picking up the pace too.

[@andrebruinhorst5565]

In a bit I've got 400 street miles on my Hoka Mach 4. Still going strong, also the outsole. It's all about runningstyle.

[@manno9621]

Andy - love this review! I've got these just waiting to go for my Brighton marathon rotation (in black of course for winter.) been watching the channel for years, got to say been getting better and better. However, didn't you also get the Mach 4 past 300 miles? I also loved those shoes, but didn't get the 5. Anyway, our friends live on Thame, and when they visited lately (we're on Merseyside), showed them your channel and they were made up 😊. Keep it going mate, btw you're flying, I think some credence behind your and Yowana's training method of consistent long runs in and out of training blocks 👍🏽

[@TheFODRunner]

Ah thanks so much, really appreciate that!! That’s really kind 👊 Yes I did get the 4s to around 320/330 I think? They were really dead at that point but I was impressed to get them there. It’s nice to get these over 400 and for them to still have the tiniest bit of life left….

[@steve7882]

I retire all shoes at 400 miles as part of injury prevention, earlier if they need it. This with core training and listening to my body when to take a rest day, as most weeks I run everyday, has kept me injury free for a number of years.

[@Trailrunner1978]

This is how running shoes should be reviewed! Gold standard. But yes I have, Hoka Speedgoat 4 , with kevlar upper, had about 800 km. But thats not a road shoe.

[@bev9708]

I recommend skipping the Speedgoat 5 if you upgrade from the 4 ... very comfy but shorter lugs which slip crazily on the steep when a bit wet (Lee Runs Ultras calls them the Slipgoat 😂) I changed to the Asics Trabuco Max and Brooks Caldera for comfort and better grip yet still very comfy on the roads getting to the trails.

[@TheFODRunner]

Thanks! Thats still impressive mileage even from a trail shoe, my torrent 2 barely made it to 200!

[@MarkPotts76]

My Speedgoat 4 have done about 400km so far, including a 105mile race in the Lake District, and still feel more or less the same as when new. Still some way to go to catch up with my Brooks Catamounts which are on 1350km (v1), 1300km (v2) and still run fine, just with a bit less bounce. I guess the DNA Flash foam is similar to the EVA in the Mach 6 and being slightly firm to start with seems to help durability.

[@andrebruinhorst5565]

@@TheFODRunner How you managed to get only 200 miles out of it? My first pair of HOKA Torrent 2 Trail: 948,3 km/600 miles and my other pair 455 km/285 miles (still in weekly rotation). I run 70% off-road (flat woods) with them.

[@tono1665]

Brilliant Review from a real reviewer who isn’t influenced by others👍

[@TheFODRunner]

Thank you

[@graemerogers9101]

Thought it was just me, but my Clifton 9s died overnight. Thanks for the insight! Hoka Mach 6 is around £60 where I live so will give them a shot.

[@TheFODRunner]

No, not just you! These will last much longer!

[@Davercrooks]

Had the Clifton 9 and agree. Dead very early on. Only have 100 or so km in the Mach 6 but loving them so far.

[@TheFODRunner]

Yeah the cliftons life span wasnt great!

[@Davercrooks]

@ which is unfortunate as the ride was good while it lasted.

[@timtrenholm3698]

I was burned by several HOKAs several years ago, and while they have obviously improved since then, I choose other brands mostly for drop numbers. 5mm in a daily just isn't my thing. But I'm glad that people seem to be getting more value out of HOKA now. And they sure do seem popular with people that seem to just wear them to walk around in. /shrug Context, the last HOKA I ran in was the Mach 4 (owned 2 pairs). Great shoe, but even that had lifespan issues and NOT due to the outsole which was still serviceable. I dragged the first pair to 550km...probably 150km further than I should have, and retired the 2nd pair at 400km. And don't get me started on the Rincon V1 which was flat at 200km.

[@TheFODRunner]

Oh mate, the rincon 1 was incredible and a distaster at the same time... one of the best shoes i ever ran in but died around the same time as yours! Also agree on the mach 4... I loved them and they did really well but with no rubber on the bottom, it shedded like snake skin... these updates to 6 are well worth it

[@Q.OnTheRun]

Boss trainer and mine continue to feel good at similar mileage, anything 8mm is really comfortable still!

[@TheFODRunner]

Amazing arent they, possibly the best of the year

[@sheldonjanuary4058]

Amazing!! I'm a runner on a budget, and I think these long tern reviews are so important to consumers. I've got a pair of Novablast 4's. What sort of lifetime mileage could I expect to get out of them?

[@PVCanciu]

I got a pair of Novablast3 (TR) currently at over 1200km and still very usable. Upper is in perfect condition, except a small tear at the Achilles on the inner padding. They do feel a little softer than a new pair (non TR) that I started using. The outsole has worn down at the forefoot. It’s quite flat now, no more lugs.

[@sheldonjanuary4058]

@PVCanciu thanks for that! That's great durability

[@TheFODRunner]

Thnaks! The novablast have a long lifespan, I have previously done 400/500 mile updates on the 1 and 2.. .the 3 got to 300 I think? the 4 i wasnt a fan of so took them to 100 and stopped but overall, their durability is very good

[@chrisdavies9969]

The only Hoka that l’ve managed to get over 200 miles in is the original Clifton. The Clifton 1 was lighter, wider and more comfortable than any of its successors! Since then l’ve either had Hoka’s that have gone dead, uppers have ripped or worn through or the soles have worn unevenly. In comparison l have got over 700 miles in the original Nike Pegasus Turbo, 600 miles in the Adidas Prime X and 400 to 500 miles in several Nike Vaporfly Next %!

[@snowwalker9999]

I don’t need a daily trainer for another year but I really really want to get myself a pair of Hoka Mach 6. Of all the shoes I tested in a running shoe store I liked this one & Noosa tri 16 the best.

[@TheFODRunner]

Yes the noosa tri 16 and the mach 6 are brilliant!

[@BillNanson]

720km on a pair of speedgoat 3s, not even close on the 4 or the 5 - of course the vibram was worn away on the corner of the heels. Not tried the 6s - I currently have enough shoes 😂!

[@MrNooge]

I’ve had two pairs of Mach 6 to 600km. On my third pair now! I’m still recovering from plantar fasciitis and felt it start to trigger at around the 600km mark so haven’t tried to push them further. The shoes still feel decent though.

[@TheFODRunner]

3 pairs, thats impressive! Hope the PF issues clear up

[@ljracer1]

The old Hoka stinsons from 2013 used to last me 400-500 miles. Otherwise yes 250-300 hoka cliftons were done I have my hoka mach 6 to 300. My son has his to 400. Still looks great. They feel really good. I recently put a new pair on to check. New pair is stiffer and not broken in yet. But no real difference. I think pushing to 400 is easy on these shoes. One shoe has developed a squeak on take off. But perfect otherwise. Impressed. Road miles. Mid foot striker. Long run. Easy runs. Speed work. Works for everything.

[@ljracer1]

All distances listed are miles

[@TheFODRunner]

Amazing arent they, big improvement from the other models!

[@martinmcgrath1985]

I think the Mach 4 was amazing..I think the Mach is the shoe for me! Thanks

[@TheFODRunner]

Yes!

[@martinmcgrath1985]

@ my one worry is the tight fit

[@TheFODRunner]

@ it’s slightly narrow, but not too much. I have a wide foot and never had any issues

[@justanoldfashionedrunner605]

I got one of my Huaka up to 650 miles. Other than that no shoe made it over 500 miles during the last 3 years, any brand i used, and most of them were worn out at the 400 mark

[@TheFODRunner]

Yeah 400 seems to be about the same for me on most shoes... it was a pleasant surprise to see these reach that milestone too!

[@mogahidsabeel4988]

Thanks 🙏🏾 for the video, I just got Deviate nitro 3 yesterday 😅. I need an advice, I need an other shoes to get me covered for rotation and offer contrast. I do running, 5k, 10k and up until 2 hours run, walking, gym and general use. I considered Hoka Clifton 9 and Nike pegasus 41 buuuut. What second durable not maxed cushioned 5-8 drop shoes do you recommend?

[@TheFODRunner]

Great question! My favourites this year have been the ASICS noosa tri 16… Mach 6…. The Pegasus plus is better than the 41 if I’m honest! Those are great options 👊

[@CoolInOlympia]

Unbelievable!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@TheFODRunner]

I know!

[@kmchow98chow15]

I’ve been looking for a non plated shoe that I can run and walk in, and I think the mach 6 might be it. This is to replace my Puma Deviate 2 that currently clock ed 400km. I think the puma can reach 600km. It has less bounce now, but walking with a plated shoes feels unnatural.

[@canddgooch]

I got to 480km but i mostly run on concrete and bitumen, seems you do a lot on trails which may help with longevity.

[@TheFODRunner]

It might do for sure... it also scuffs them up quite bad I find, but they've held up well all things considered

[@aristodiga82]

just got my mach 6, and used them for 20k. seems like I still have a long way to go 😂. anyway, critical EVA is always more durable than regular EVA. The most durable is still TPU-based midsoles though. My Triumph 20 is still going strong after 700km. I think I'm going to retire them at 750km due to boredom. The good thing is that when I donate them, then someone else will still get to experience the comfort of that shoe. Note that I usually retire my shoes after 500-550km. Only a few I managed to take up to 600km. The triumph is the first one to touch 700.

[@TheFODRunner]

good luck with them, I hope they serve you well!

[@tclarknoise]

You use these on gravel and trail? I haven’t thought about that with mine, I’ve just been using them on the road to preserve them

[@TheFODRunner]

Yeah all the time 👍

[@LeeSmales]

I've had Mach 4 to 817km and Mach 5 to 712km. Worst by far was Rincon - gone after 117km.

[@TheFODRunner]

Rincon durability was terrible!

[@jaerdahl]

how do you know if a foam has gone "flat". I have 730 miles on my Asics Novablast 3 and I sorta think they are still fine but how do I tell?

[@TheFODRunner]

Difficult to explain... with Hoka you lose so much bounce and it start to feel a lot firmer underfoot... the foam gets compressed so much that it stops bouncing back!

[@baltsu]

I wonder when the UK is going to get rid of miles. They belong to the ancient schillings and stones age

[@hexfire]

100%

[@bendigeidfranemmanueljones5694]

When the marathon is a round number rather than a silly old distance

[@TheFODRunner]

Why is kilometers the right measurement? Why shouldn’t be scrap those?

[@61js]

Why ? It's been perfectly fine since the Romans. Next, you'll want to change hours, minutes and seconds 😂

[@bendigeidfranemmanueljones5694]

@61js My first marathon this century took 9376 dalek rels.

[@willineufeld7162]

Can you please review the Hoka Mach X2?

[@TheFODRunner]

I’d love too at some stage 👍

[@Manuel-901]

Good morning. Another comparison: Kinvara 14-Hoka Mach 6, what do you think, please??. Like to Andy. A nice weekend for everyone.

[@TheFODRunner]

Hey! Two very different shoes... kinvara 14 for speed, Mach 6 for everything else!

[@Manuel-901]

@TheFODRunner . 👍

[@sigitnugroho7523]

I wonder if it's because you do most of your runs on dirt path so the wear and tear looks so minimal

[@jimmybondy9450]

I think it's worse for shoes on dirt road

[@TheFODRunner]

Possibly, but then it can be a bit more uneven with gravel and stone rather than smooth tarmac

[@edwardcreighton2638]

Mach 6 is fantastic. Clifton 9 died very fast. Rincon 3 died fast. Mach 5 very good but not designed for long term. Good to see very long term review, lot of reviewers just do first impression videos.

[@TheFODRunner]

Yes the Machs are bucking the trend with hokas right now, they are my go to shoe!

[@geert574]

try cloudmonster hyper

[@TheFODRunner]

I have them, and enjoy them!

[@anthonyhorsnall1516]

Had the Hoka Rocket X (OG). Awesome but only got 120 miles.

[@jimmybondy9450]

Haha. That's 12 days for me. 😅

[@TheFODRunner]

Yeah the original rocket X got about 150 for me before being retired haha... the 2 is much better apparently

[@dimitar297]

If you like max cushion shoes get someone to follow you on an ebike, filming, blocking people who spent $400 to feel better.

[@foresttrailrunner6996]

Bloody influencers, when are you going to start testing your shoes properly 🙈

[@jimmybondy9450]

What would be a proper test?

[@foresttrailrunner6996]

@ just a quick 10k, no need for this 400 mile business

[@TheFODRunner]

knobhead

[@TheFODRunner]

Sorry mate, i'll make sure I do a mile jog next time then report back

[@foresttrailrunner6996]

@@TheFODRunner that’s more like it. Bloody idiot, how can I take a proper review seriously