Unboxing Showdown: Gibson SG vs. Chibson Knock-Off | Unveiling Craftsmanship and Quality Control!

[@hecanseeme8210]

I have never cared what name is on a guitar or where it was made. To me it is all about connection. Do I love it and does it make me want to play?

[@primaskateboutique]

Best honest comparison ive seen. I proudly play my Chibson for all of these reasons. What could be more embarrassing than someone making your product better than you?

[@bassmandudge]

I feel for you.... Your being way too magnanimous about the quality. What is utterly clear is that it has taken the shine off what should be a fantastic experience. I own a Gibson SG standard .it's a 2010...I paid £600 for it used with a proper Gibson hardcase....and in my opinion that's what it's worth ..not a penny more. I am happy luthering and have done many alterations, fret jobs, paint jobs in my time and I reckon I need to spend about 5 hours on mine to make it the quality I feel it should be. 1800 dollars is still a significant amount of money and it annoys me that the price point on all the standards has lifted so much over the recent years...and I think this is a deliberate play on Gibson's part which has become accepted by us consumers because of the whole custom shop /Murphy labs, imo, rip off prices. Normalising high prices for low value items and trading on a brand name....I actually heard someone say about a Les Paul the other day.."it's only £3200"..yeah well it should only be £2000 and that's being generous.....well a fool and their money are easily parted...I can never see me owning another Gibson...on a recent visit to my local guitar shop I played a natural es 335. It was £3500.00 and it was nice...BUT....I then played a Larry Carlton Sire 335 with p90s and it just blew it away... The Gibson had more premium woods and nitro, but everything else about the Sire was better...especially the feel and tone... And it was £560.00. I don't consider the Sire to be a budget guitar...just a brilliant guitar.... While people put up with the crap Gibson are handing out without complaining the longer it will go on. Truth be told if I were in your shoes I would be onto zzounds to come and pick it up... I know you can fix it...but why should you...your time is valuable and it is supposed to be a premium product.

[@stratolestele7611]

There's a video of this somewhere on KZbin, but it talks about the cost of Gibsons today vs the 50s and 60s. Adjusted for inflation, they are essentially the same price as they were. They were always expensive. I remember buying my new Tele in 1976. I really wanted a Strat, but they were more expensive back then and the Tele was already expensive for me. Gibsons? Forget about it. No way I could afford one back then. The Murphy Shop guitars are where you're spending the big money.

[@ChockHolocaust]

Same story here: I have a genuine Gibson Melody Maker and a Chibson Melody Maker. The logo was off-centre on the Chibson (I corrected that), the headstock was the wrong shape (I corrected that too), it had some other things about it which were a bit off, such as the Melody Maker text not being on the scratch plate (I corrected that too). So now the Chibson looks pretty much like a genuine Melody Maker, which it's true involved a fair bit of effort on my part but since the Chibson was less than £200, I was not afraid to 'have at it' with my tools and in any case I like doing that kind of stuff. So now I doubt anyone would know it wasn't a genuine Gibson unless they checked the serial number it has on it (although even that is actually a correct number for the model), but whether I had done all that or not, it still would have been a better guitar to play than my genuine Gibson Melody Maker; the Gibson is just not as nice to play as the Chinese knock off copy is.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

It happens quite frequently. My Ace Frehley chibson is also better looking and playing than my Gibson Les paul custom. It's funny how that makes so many angry . But facts are facts. I'm done buying another New Gibson until the QC is spot on. I have a feeling that's not going to happen. Thanks for watching 🙂

[@ryanstocksmusic]

I've liked and subscribed... Honestly you should have more subscribers my friend keep up the great work 🎉

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Thanks brother 🙏 welcome aboard 😀

[@frankfrascati7820]

For an 1800 dollar guitar it should almost be perfect

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Agreed

[@Skwisgaarz666]

You’re paying for the name… not the quality.

[@EbonyPope]

Not just almost. Everything over 1000 dollars should be absolutely flawless.

[@FrailCaesar]

I really appreciate these Chibson videos. I'm considering getting an SG double neck, so it's reassuring to see how far the chibsons have come over the last few years.

[@1mrmcawesome]

I do like your videos. But the one thing that just drew my eye to it was that ten-pound submarine port hole on your wrist. Honestly, love the content.

[@shavedmonkey9821]

i purchased one of the early les paul chibsons back in 2007, stripped out the electrics and pickups, the pickups had epiphone stamped on the backs of them, i replaced them with gibson humbuckers, within 5 years the pots started playing up, the dusty pot sound, guitar still looks great and plays superb. At the same time i went into dawsons music here in uk...all the gibsons were trash, had the electric tuners on, high action, finish flaws, loose pots and selectors, and everyone knows they all sold to people who bought the name only

[@pauln6803]

A long time ago I was discussing the price hikes of Gibson here in Britain with my local small music shop manager. Gibson was claiming the exchange rate (strangely pound sterling was high against the dollar), but he personally suspected it was because Gibson had seen what PRS was charging. He said at least Gibson was finally profiling the frets and not just leaving the crown flat after levelling!

[@quadproz8669]

Awesome review! Unfortunately I had the same experience with a 70's Gibson Explorer a couple of months ago. I sold my 1992 Explorer for a ridiculously low price and had regretted it ever since. So I've had a hole in my heart for it since then. So fast forward to a couple months ago, I paid $2400 fill in that hole and waited with grand anticipation. The blessed day arrived and I received it in the mail. But the guitar that I received left me feeling kind of depressed. It had poor tonal qualities, there were several finish flaws (like yours), and I'm not sure what happened with the nut but the high E string was on the edge of the fretboard to the point that the first three frets were unplayable without the string coming off of the fret and fret nib. Keep in mind that I paid $2400 for this thing. So if you're thinking that plopping down $2K-3K provides some assurance that you're getting a product that has $2400 worth of quality, you are (likely) mistaken because it doesn't, necessarily with Gibson. I contrast that with paying ~$300-$350 but having to put in some work to get a finished product that holds it's own compared to a Gibson.

[@sampettit1172]

Thank you for you honest review of these two guitars.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Thank you for watching 🙂

[@zoocru67]

I bought a 2019 black gibson SG standard 4/20/23 on reverb paid $1300 all in delivered to my door, used but was told it was unplayed and mint, still had plastic on the pick guard and appeared unplayed. Had the same picture in the case!! (Brown case btw) Mine was better as far as QC goes than that one you just un boxed and sounds phenomenal. p.s. it did need to be set up( action adjusted truss rod adjustment etc. )

[@craigshewchuk9018]

The best way to get a gibson now a days is used second hand, lowest price and in person if possible. I got a 2019 sg that is pretty nice, got it for 800. I also had a 04 flying V and a 06 sg standard block inlay It's crazy my SG pickguard is the same lol

[@hecanseeme8210]

I would be afraid of buying a really good Chibson being sold as a Gibson. I certainly don’t have the knowledge to vet them.

[@anthonymiller3970]

Gibson just changed CEO this month. Cesar Gueikian is the new President and CEO. Hopefully he will fix the quality issues the company is still experiencing.

[@Jaloja]

OOOOO you should have seen the 3 I bought during the sell off when the bankruptcy was going on. All 3 had production, sigh off dates 18 months before I bought them. Warehoused unsold for 18 months. No wonder they had cash flow problems. All 3 had issues out of the box but sighed off with the baby picture. One was "setup" so bad the strings were touching the bridge pickup. Ridiculous! Now I did buy them at 1/2 the retail price at the time and I did sort them out. But my opinion of Gibson was very low and went lower after the "Authentic" fiasco. I have not bought a Gibson since. Maybe if they go half price again...:)

[@IllusiveSwampMoose]

I've been out of the guitar world for awhile, recently came back into it and I'm shocked at how high prices have gotten and how much QC has slipped. My '08 American Standard Fender was $1200 if I'm remembering correctly and it came not only flawlessly set up and finished, but with an SKS hard case and a really nice strap. When I was shopping around almost every Gibson I played FELT like a $2k+ instrument. I can not imagine spending thousands of dollars on a guitar and having it come in a soft case.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

It's crazy out there now for sure.

[@donhagerman4868]

Great Vid, Thanks! Rock On! 🎸 👏 Don

[@bear5141]

That's one thing I like about Sweetwater they check every guitar over and over again and sign off on it before they ship it to you and I bought two guitars from them and one of them guitars was an entry-level Gibson Epiphone and it was perfect write out of the box and they were set up perfectly and there's also cards with pedals and the drum stuff so not only getting inspection card on whatever you buy you get a bag of candy and that's pretty cool if you got a sweet tooth and you also get a sticker that says sweet water

[@TheeIronJedi]

I bought a Gold Top LP from Aliexpress and I had a different experience. It looks kinda good. I bought a custom bridge with brass saddles, had it Plek’d at a guitar shop in Jupiter, Fla. pickups are microphonic and after all the adjustments, it plays terribly. Strings buzzing everywhere. Can’t stay in tune but it’s beautiful wall art. And that’s the main reason why I bought it.

[@12to3Guitars]

Hear, hear. Although it saddens me that the QC wasnt great for you, i felt like i was watching a video of myself because every instrument i get in is a QC nightmare. I feel your pain. My issue is always horrendous fretwork.

[@papablue3015]

Thanks! Good show! 🤘

[@donaldwalls5809]

I must say I was shocked when you pointed out the QC issue on the real gibson. Still want one great video, thanks !

[@calbrockocat8728]

Glenn Fricker's channel had a flying v with paint and fiishing issues. Gibson management doesn't care if they put out crap, I guess. Nice unboxing. Pity Gibson's standards have fallen into the gutter.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

I'm always hoping for the best. But things are looking bleek . Thanks for watching.

[@jakesmith4506]

Nice review. I think that down the road the Gibsons turn into heirlooms and otherwise increase in value over time. The imports don't have that kind of thing going on. There's nothing wrong with selecting what fits for a person. But ..... come back in 20 years. The import isn't going to fetch the same kind of money. Of course, any guitar is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. but...No one's looking for a vintage '74 Hondo replica. (then again......someone is happy with their imported knock-off of a ROLEX)

[@donaldlaporte4227]

Good morning have a couple questions, today in 2023 are the les paul chipsons worth the 270 bucks knowing your going to replace the pickups, nut, and other things. Are they typically a decent husk..i might of followed the link on ebay till i found the chibson bullseye custom i wanted.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Chibsons are still hit or miss. Personally, I almost always buy from. Ebay and look for a seller with USA stock. I purchased a Ace Frehley LP that was very nice recently. I haven't had to change anything. Sounds looks and plays excellent. (Other than lowering the action to my specs. )Even came with Jumbo frets. If you do buy message the seller and see if they are from the "JS custom shop manufacturer. " They seem to be the best so far for me. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.

[@donaldlaporte4227]

I did buy it couldn't resist, yes comes from usa stock in California, I know they use stock photos, but it does have ball end frets, I can see the scarf joint, the seller was melodymaker something like that. It looks good fingers crossed..

[@donaldlaporte4227]

​@alfredooliva5175 the question was more about fit, finish, and quality of the build, read the room.

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

My Chibson has survived the test of time ! Nothing fallen off or twisted broken all the blah blah the haters on You Tube would say. It plays and sounds beautifully. It was a high end guitar with thick flame maple cap, fret edge binding, nitro finish.

[@willdenham]

Was that an SG as well?

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Les paul @@willdenham

[@willdenham]

Would you be willing to tell me what company/seller that was?

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Musooparts from Aliexpress ! @@willdenham

[@randyivie359]

Gibson as a company now , is just riding on a name ! I’m a Gibson loyalist I own Gibson instruments costing 4 figures . But it’s a shame when someone else can do better at what you do best . And this isn’t the first time this has happened. They dropped the ball before in the 70’s . If you bought an instrument say around 1978 you probably got what was the worst quality instrument Gibson was ever making in there history. And I’m sure Orville Gibson was rolling in his grave ! They were bought out by a couple of guys then that set out to recreate the quality that had been the trademark of the company. You should read the book 100 years of Gibson . It not only tells the history of how Gibson set out to make a better Mandolin that became the Stradivarius of its time , but it’s also a story of a conglomerate and how businesses really operate and survive. But I’m glad to see companies that have long been belittled and ignored setting the new standard . Hey the guy that invented the wheel may have changed human history , but the guys building wheels today are blowing him away .

[@Jaloja]

Change the capacitor on the Chibson FIRST to a Orange drop .22uf and try it.Odds are that alone will get the tone within the Gibson tone range. For some reason the Chicoms all seem to think a .47 is correct for humbuckers. Every IYV I have came with one..

[@timdover7540]

FACTS! Thanks for sharing

[@bass-hiroshimanick2534]

Mike, that is an absolute shame that Gibson let that SG out of the factory in that condition. It just tells me that someone somewhere along the production line just didn’t care. That shouldn’t happen to a Gibson SG!

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Very true. At least most of it is fixable with some patience. I'm not impressed. I could literally have gotten 6 fantastic guitars for the price of this. What really is an insult is that friggin strap. I mean, it's a joke. How about a nice cable for 1800 bucks. Then later I discovered a loose jack. Lol. Oh well... at least it sounds and plays good. Thanks for watching Nick...

[@bass-hiroshimanick2534]

@@FultonStreetBeats , oh yeah Mike that strap was pathetic to say the least but at least the case was pretty nice.

[@jakedixon6360]

I have a Les Paul studio in Midnight Manhattan that came with that strap.. it’s laughably bad. I was lucky that it came with the brown case, and to the cases credit, it’s pretty nice for a soft shell. The guitar itself is what you’d expect for a $1700 Gibson. Mine didn’t have any finish burns, but it had the polishing compound in the crevices. With all that being said, I still play my Epiphone traditional pro IV as often as the Gibson. Dollar for dollar, my Epiphone plays as nicely as the Gibson in my opinion.

[@marcozarattini1854]

Always been a Gibson fan and player since 1989(l begun to play in 1988)and l still have my 1992 LP Standard as my n.1guitar but l think Gibson is doing some extremely wrong things:you can't pay 1800 bucks and receive a guitar in a soft case,you can't pay 2.900 bucks and have a two pieces body LP...nowadays if you want a real Gibson you got to go for a Custom Shop and pay no less than 4000 bucks... that's absolutely crazy and wrong...in 2022 l bought a new 2020 '50s Standard LP Epiphone and It Is a different level Guitar compared to my 1992 Gibson but at exactly the same level than a today's Gibson...great guitars but with an inflated price...😢Cheers from Italy... you're doing a great job man👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Thank you... I know exactly what you mean. I just purchased a Epiphone Tony Iommi Signature SG, and its amazing. 1k price tag, however, an excellent hard case , and a build quality that is 1st rate. Thanks for watching.

[@stratolestele7611]

You're a better man than me. I would have asked for a replacement. I didn't catch where you bought it. I 'usually' but all my online guitars from Sweetwater. Presumably, with their inspection, your odds 'might' be better that they would have caught the blems and sold it at a discount as they'll do. Like all the big box retailers, they won't hesitate to exchange it, or accept the return. The odds are that you won't get two with flaws. I bought three Gibsons in '19 and '20. Two of them had not a blem to be seen. Perfect setups on all three. At the QC benches, you can see the cameras mounted directly overhead. You can be assured that they're taking pics of the actual guitar. With respect to the third one - Sweetwater noted the blem and were knocking off a few hundred dollars because of said blem. I was able to have my rep (Andy Hoye) get me the details of the blem. It was a polishing issue around the p/u selector,so I pulled the trigger on it. It's a black Les Paul Classic. I got it, noted the kind of 'orange peel' issue it had. I used my go-to solution and used my Mother's metal polish on the area and after just a few minutes, got it looking 100%. Simple as that. I'll accepts blems under two circumstances - both where they're disclosed. One on a used guitar, and the other on a new guitar that's discounted accordingly. Right now, I'm pondering which guitars I'm going to sell in order to fund the best of the best, a Collings!

[@bradforward850]

I just got my DG335 Chibson a month ago. I sent for it listed without the Gibson logo in the picture I ordered it from, and it came with the logo. A bit bothered by it having the logo. Just feel dirty. LOL But regardless of that. I am extremely impressed by the quality of the instrument. Had very little adjustment for intonation when arriving. But outside of that. it's perfect. It's at least as good as any High end Epiphone.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

I look at it like this. Slash Played a fake LP from a luthier, Gibson ended up copying the Fake to save the company. Angus played a fake from a luthier That Gibson copied because of the lightning bolt inlays and upgrades to playability . EVH played a Frankenstein'd parts monster that Fender and Kramer Copied. So I don't stress it. Seems What ok for the big brands to do we are told is taboo for us. lol Enjoy it and rock on. Thanks for watching.

[@Magnum-Farce]

I stooped buying Gibsons when the SG standards went over 1200. My last was was a F trainwreck. The front and back aren't even flat - ridges everywhere. Paint slopped around the c cavity. Little defects everywhere.

[@snafu1957]

The words you speak at the end are the truth. 67 yr old luthier here. Gibson could learn some thing from you words. "Chiropractic Guitars" Fl USA.

[@eldee9242]

As a kid, we could never afford Converse, Nike, or Reebok sneakers. I made due with KMart knockoffs. I didn't need the name brand sneakers to play sports, ride bikes, and have fun... I see these Chibsons/others the same way

[@benelder6431]

Where are you buying your Chibson from?

[@ppgwhereeverett4412]

Just, last week, got a REAL Gibson Les Paul studio and it came in THAT (case ?). Mine is a Brown one. Got a strap, too. I took mine off the wall at Guit. Ctr. and they got the case from the backroom. That PRICE needs a real case !! I feel Gibson's quality is DRIVING Chibsun !!

[@jaminjimlp]

The arch between the body and the neck appears to be more on the gibson... at least for what we can see on the video. And you should have sent it back to see what you get as far as QC goes. For 1800 it needs to be perfect! That guitar should be and i would consider it a "second".

[@LinN-ji1jy]

Do you know what particular factory the Chibson was made at? There are definitely differences even within their quality but certain factories are better quality. It's sad to see such poor QC on such a respected company. 😢

[@FultonStreetBeats]

LS custom shop

[@FultonStreetBeats]

This video is not meant to knock Gibson. It is here to make them realize that the Gibson QC is not satisfactory... Hopefully Gibson can finally realize that its the QC inspectors that need to be changed. When this obvious flaws gets by them it is due to lack of pride, or they are being told to let them through? Regardless. it's not acceptable. Getting beat (& beat Badly) by a 300 dollar knock off in QC should be downright embarrassing for Gibson. You can do better Gibson... I know you can.... Step it up.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

@jfiery Thank you. I agree. Thank you for watching & your thoughts.

[@davidmazza3898]

I’d send the Gibson back. But from experience the replacement won’t be perfect either

[@dutchfpv7010]

Thanks for this video. It clarified a lot for me. An electric guitar is a wood guitar with electronics and hardware. The electronics and hardware can be completely replaced, the guitar itself is the essence. Seeing the quality of yours I took a chance on one of these with a one piece mahogany body and mahogany neck. The guitar I received was 10/10. The wood is super resonant and the construction and finish are flawless. The neck feels custom made for me. The hardware and electronics, as expected were 2/10. It still sounds surprisingly good. The instrument itself is super lively so it has a nice beefy SG sound. But you just assume going in that you're going to replace all the electronics and hardware. Which you can do well and inexpensively. I found 2010 SG standard Grovers on ebay for $20. And a both Grover tailpieces for $50 more. The Grover tuners literally weigh twice what the Chinese tuners weigh despite being slightly smaller. So its a substantial upgrade in quality for not much money. I traded some spare parts for a complete Gibson controls from a 2008 SG. And I have some special custom pickups coming that I basically got at the builders cost. For maybe $400 all in, it will rival any $1600-1800 SG out there. At the end of the day the magic of the Chibson is finding good wood and craftsmanship. Research this first and primarily. Look for 1 piece bodies where possible. Look for the woods best suited for the guitar and sound you want. If you get that right you can have a premium quality instrument for not much money.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

💯 % couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks you for watching!

[@FultonStreetBeats]

@screamingintothewind look at Mr EGO. You feel the need to put others down? This usually shows how weak someone is in real life. Making comments protected by your computer screen. I'm sure you must be a legend in your own mind. Make believe is fun. . Congrats 👏 now you are banned from the 7th channel. You are on a roll.

[@aaalanwp]

So. it seems from what you're saying, and you are surely not alone, I've seen lots, I would say it is about time, the 'Chibsons' need and are good enough, to start releasing under thier own ability,, I havent seen a really bad rightup on any 'Chibson for a long while now.. I guess my only concern is, they are that good, the prices will soon catch up with thoser that i really cannot , as a hobbiest, afford

[@Edward1312]

Its called the law of diminishing returns. Idiot guitarists will keep paying over the odds because they are blinded by the Gibson Logo and the spending Gibson undertakes on PR setting out their guitars as high end products. Its the same in the watch world with Rolex. Standard Gibson models are production line guitars made by CNC machines just like any other maker, its not until you get to the the Custom shop that you could start to call them handmade. Is it really worth paying 6 times more for a Gibson Logo and made in USA badge? Downside with the Chibson is that by upgrading it might get you close to the standard of the Gibson but you will never get any of that money back because you cant sell it.

[@JamesBrown-js3lm]

Seeing the Gibson and going off of what others have said, I don’t think I would drop that much on a guitar with that kind of reputation. I have 26 guitars and not one is a Gibson. They range from 2,700 to 120 dollars. About half of them are Chinese knockoffs and some are kit builds, they almost always need a setup to dial them in but play great after that. I enjoy tinkering with them but a new player would have problems getting a decent quality guitar. It’s always best if you can go to a guitar shop or pawnshop for that matter and actually hold it and see for yourself.

[@BiginBelgium]

What is the "duty" on these?

[@Jaloja]

I have bought $250.00 Harley Benton's that I could not find a flaw on.. I have also bought $200.00 IYV's that needed as much work as a $1800.00 Gibson. Yes I said that... :)

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Same here

[@barracudafighter79]

Wonder if a difference changing the capacitor? Seena video not long ago different showing different capacitors that other companies like flagship companies use in there guitar

[@willdenham]

How do you find out if it's one piece? The descriptions I see on ebay, DHGate, etc. are all scant, not saying much other than wood type.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

I usually just message the seller first. I really don't mind 2 piece bodies as long as there is not a neck scarf joint. Thats what I cant stand on a clear finish.

[@willdenham]

@@FultonStreetBeats Does that translate well: neck scarf joint. I have found there's a bit of a language barrier.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

@willdenham normally they know what it means. But I I totally understand what you mean. Sometimes I'm like, what the hell did they just say? Lol

[@garypannone7755]

I just had a 2023 serial number SG Standard show up at my house in red. I was afraid to open the box after going through 4 other Gibson's Different model guitar, before getting a good one. I was so happy to see fit and finish perfect. Set up terrible. But that can be fixed. If I had the one you got it would have went back. What is going on at Gibson. There is no excuse for a guitar that lists at $1799.00 to have a finish that looks like that. And the quality is now in Epiphone. Unfortunately Epiphone usually uses a very thin neck and that is not for me. Please do something with the volume I strain to hear you. Great video otherwise.

[@brucedickinson8993]

Thanks for your videos. I'm Brazilian, i don't have so much money and every insturment here is so expensive. I'm feeling better in looking for some explorer or les paul (epiphone named) to play

[@elymolloy8333]

I just bought a chibson lp custom. Best guiar ive evr owned. Ive had american strats and 2 real gibsons and this thing is more gibson that a real gibson.

[@barracudafighter79]

The 3 hundred. shipping included?

[@dynomike07]

I second that what hecanseeme8210 said.., Right On! I'd boxed it up and send it through their window too!

[@jeffrowlette]

I'll add that I own 2 Les Pauls.....one real, one Chibson. And around 20 Strats and Teles. I'm a Fender man through and through 👍

[@greyguy69]

Had a 1991 les paul standard. I never could get it to play to my standards. It was just ok. I sold it.

[@oscarmunozgarcia2097]

Thanks for your review. I think the best way to get a Gibson now is to buying a Chibson 🤘

[@adloutdoors]

Killer video! I would be PISSED and would send that thing back!! It almost sounds to me that Gibson might be getting guitars made in another country. I have 25 guitars including Real Gibsons, Fenders, Chibson and firefly. Most of the foreign gits are made well, if not better than the USA brands now..... sad to see the lack of QC in American made products!

[@pauln6803]

I would suspect a combination of cost cutting and poor treatment of the workforce. I've heard Gibson operates a no notice, hire and fire policy leading to high turnover of production line staff. If you're not replacing tooling regularly enough, using poorly trained and treated staff, then it's going to show in the end product.

[@ppgwhereeverett4412]

I LOVE Gibson STYLE guitars. I have never really liked Fenders. But I do have a Tele Thinline copy (CHEAPO) and some Takemine acoustics, a Gibson Les and some Epi electrics and acoustics. AND a "Chibsun" J-200 on order !! We'll see about quality. I expect the Chibsun to be at about Epiphone quality.

[@elymolloy8333]

I just got a chibson a few days back build quality surpassed 99% of guitars ive owned. Ive had American fenders and gibsons. I'm 43 and I build guitars and this thing is SOLID.

[@louisdebonis5716]

Nice watch, is that a rolex deep-sea or sea dweller?

[@FultonStreetBeats]

It's actually an Invicta Hydromax.

[@louisdebonis5716]

@FultonStreetBeats I bought the gibson sg 61 in translucent teal. It is supposed to come with a Gibson Hardcastle. QC is so bad they sent it with a gig bag. I contacted them and they send the Hardcastle. For 2k you should get an excellent guitar with a hardcase.

[@I-SHADOW-I]

Now i want a chibson...

[@OddTimeMan]

They're most likely not the same woods. Gibson used to use Honduran Mahogany which is considered the only "true" mahogany. That tree is endangered and protected now. Gibson then switched to African Mahogany which is a completely different tree. Most Asian-made guitars are Eastern Mahogany which again is a completely different tree. Any reddish-brown hardwood is called mahogany.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Luckily, the best thing about all of these types of mahogany is that it's virtually impossible to tell what they are with a guitar build. All work very well and serve the purpose.

[@OddTimeMan]

@@FultonStreetBeats One way to tell is where it's made. If it's an Asian-made guitar, it's most likely Eastern Mahogany (a.k.a. Nato). Also, the weight of the guitar is one way to tell. When Gibson used Honduran Mahogany, Les Pauls weren't known to be that heavy. When they switched to African Mahogany in the late '60s, people noticed right away that they were much heavier. That's why Gibson started weight-relieving the bodies with holes and then eventually chambering the bodies. Yes, the different mahoganies work well and serve their purpose, but a lot of people think they're all the same.

[@justin_smith556]

As someone who works in manufacturing I can say through personal experience that too many of the younger generation of workers just don't take pride in their work. To many its just a job and they only put forth enough effort to not get fired and these days the standards to maintain employment are pretty low. This isn't a problem specific to Gibson or with the population of workers around the factory location, this is just the reality of manufacturing in the US.

[@trevoisier]

Return it and buy 10 chibsons. That qc is nuts (sic)

[@garybrady9531]

I've owned Gibsoms and I have a few Epiphones after set ups they sounded very close the Epi has alpha pots I have zero issues with them my first Gibson was the basic bare bones in worn brown,yawn so I sold it after a couple of years o had to buy the hard case from Gibson as well as the Epi all in if the imports you buy are any thing they are building better copies as time goes by

[@kbrown649]

I just suddenly wondered if, well, the flaws are the point? It’s a Gibson, sorta handmade, individual…idk…just riffing… This is why I buy Chibson and upgrade a bit.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

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[@-Thunder]

36:12 - 3.2mm vs. 9.4mm overall thickness???? What in the heck?? I'm guessing you meant 32mm vs 39mm. My Epiphone SG is about 37.5mm.

[@Greven64Staller]

I bought a Gibson Les Paul Standard 2019 and returned it because of the quality control was horrible fret buzz everywhere swirl marks that i couldn't get out

[@Mainframe79]

Well, you convinced me to give it a try. Just ordered a Chibson SG Tony Iommi style with the cross inlays. I figure worst case it’ll look cool on the wall. I’m excited for it to get here and try it out

[@FultonStreetBeats]

I've always wanted the Iommi SG also. I had the 1k dollar Epiphone Monkey version. It was nice. But still, a thousand dollars seems steep to me. Let us know what you think when it arrives. Thanks for watching.

[@curtjohansen5742]

Send that guitar back!! You didn't pay with monopoly money.

[@murrellsmith2164]

Should have played them both I wanted to see what the chibson sounded like

[@FultonStreetBeats]

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[@RSimusic]

the body on the chibson just *looks* wrong though. thicker? goofier?

[@jeffrowlette]

At a certain point, it's no longer about the guitar as much as the player. Both guitars "could" be AMAZING in the right hands. I'm NOT a fan of counterfeiting.

[@alfredooliva5175]

who gives a shit what your not a "fan" of

[@markmcculloch2570]

A guitar is easily overrated by way of pricing. Hello from South Africa 🤙🏻

[@Jaloja]

Rushed and with problems IS what to EXPECT from Gibson.

[@vince8081]

Yeah, but that's authentic you know... 🤔 Gibson should stop suing everyone and take a closer look at their production. Shame...

[@bldallas]

OK, I’m a Fender guy, have never owned a Gibson, but I’ve heard their QC is really lacking these days. Given hat I hear that on Fender Telecaster forums, I try to take it with a grain of salt. But I’ve got to tell you, the blemishes and caked on buffing compound that you’re pointing out are unacceptable and embarrasing. By comparison, around 20 years ago, I had the urge to own a Les Paul, so I bought a new Black Epiphone LP Classic from the Dallas Guitar center. I played several to hand pick what I felt was the best on their wall. Then I bartered with the kid working there, for about an hour and eventually got him down to $150 plus tax. Seriously. And, I’m also serious when I tell you, with the exception of the nut being cut a tad shorter than the width of the nut slot, that new, black $150 Epiphone did not have ANY of the QC issues your $1800 SG has. Crazy.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Unfortunately, all big brands are getting too big for their Britches. Egos are bigger than the quality. That's a shame.

[@Humbucker1103]

I like your style! In my mind you're the Blue Collar Guitar Guru ! Rock On!

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Thanks brother!

[@neoquest2012]

Not sending it back is why Gibson continue to get away with this sub standard Build quality/QC. I bought a Les Paul Jnr for Christmas, bucket list guitar for me personally and couldn’t believe the factory let it out the door, similar finish issues, but the pick up didn’t even work, wiring was fine just a dud P90! Not acceptable, sent it back for a full refund. However it was a blessing, I ended up buying an Eastman SB55v after watching some reviews, and wow! Custom shop level of finish, higher quality parts and that lollar P90 is phenomenal, even the Hard case is a thing of beauty. Gibson need to wtf up, The Chinese have some first class Luthiers and workers that have pride in what they are producing…

[@endoffate5475]

These finish blemmishes are unbelievable.. I own an all black Jackson and it had none of these issues in the finish, so thats not an excuse. Its been said a million times but you are paying for the name when buying a Gibson or a Martin. At this point theres so many great/cheap options outhere that theres no point in buying these super expenssive instruments.

[@chadbrochills]

The Epiphone SG ‘61 Elitist I have has a better finish and QC than that Gibson. What a shame. I’d return that considering how much they are.

[@scootergold]

There is absolutely no way I would keep that. Totally not acceptable for the money you spent on that. Your buying a Gibson its a "investment"

[@FultonStreetBeats]

I put hrs 12 hrs of hard work into it today. It's a transformed Angus Rocking machine now. Lol. Details Coming Soon.

[@kevinalanperry]

ive got two gibson les pauls tribute from diferant years both came with sharp fret ends the tuners on the 2016 mosel were good but the 2017 tuners were rubis in less than six months there was play in them i got a replacement set from gibson and there were just as bad . fast forwar to 2023 i checked out a tribute model in a local store and the fret ends were still shart on a £1,200 guitar this is not exseptable its time we all stoped worshiping this brand they simply dont deserve it there living on there past reputation from the 1960s and befor when they were something special if it was not for the fact there pickups are superb and the original desighns {angin that were dome many year ago } they would have nothing going for them at all there just living on there past reputation

[@paf268]

Gibson and Fender are cashing in on boomer and gen x emotions for these guitars I refuse to comply. Chibson it is!

[@billvrtis1009]

I think these instruments, because of the price, pretty much live forever and MANY different aftermarket hands touch these guitars. If someone's in the market for a gibson I'd always recommend a used one that's at least 20 years old. That way it's already likely had multiple setups and probably a fretjob. You're sure to get a well broken in super solid instrument. Go into ANY guitar store, the used gibsons will always play better than the new ones.

[@silence604]

I use those straps to play guitar hero

[@willdenham]

Been trying $2,000 SG's at every Guitar Center I drive by. Everytime it's meh, at best. 2,000 for meh....

[@6411892]

For me the ebony neck looks so much better.

[@Eric_01]

I actually surprised you wouldn't sent that Gibson back. That was in horrible condition. I had a similar experience with a Les Paul from MF and then realized they were sending out returns as new. If you complain, and request "from the warehouse", you'll get an actual new guitar. That's when I quit buying from them and GC. Their "we'll send what we want" policy is a dealbreaker.

[@WindRider1]

No way would I have kept that guitar. I bought a LP from Sweetwater and the fit and finish was so bad, I boxed it back up immediately. The fret board over hung the edges of the neck so far you could hang your fingernails on it. Gibson needs to know the quality leaving the factory. If you keep it, they will never know.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

They definitely know. However, they turn a blind eye. I put 14 hrs of nitro correction into it and sent it on its way. Until quality is back up across the board at Gibson. I'm out for a while.

[@1000sofusernames]

Never mind the Chinese, brands like Vintage have been providing great guitars for not much money for a long time now.

[@2dazetake]

I'm personally not against getting a Gibson, what I'm against is the price they charge for literally the same guitar, does it really matter what kind of wood they use on a guitar that's completely painted anyway, how does one know if the same wood that is sourced for a budget guitar, isn't the same wood that Gibson is using,you basically don't and most likely never will, so your paying for 3 pieces of wood and some hardware, and your hoping it has a nice finish, I seriously think Gibson has priced theirself right out of the market, and they have made the budget buyers mad by going after copycats and headstock designs, that's not a winning formula for the company, if your simply the best then start acting like it, QC is number one, on the long list of changes needed to fix their reputation,I'm not sure they can ever recover.

[@curtjohansen5742]

Qc is a thing of the past,, way past for Gibson. They can find out exactly what employees built and let that guitar out of the factory and fire all of them. If Gibson wants to keep customers they can't let another guitar out of the factory like that. Firing people will send a message to the employees that will make them up their workmanship. Gibson should know this by now,

[@vainparasite]

Ive just bought a 2009 Gibson les paul for £1200 and its in a lot better condition than your sg. That is pretty shameful for Gibson 😳😳 i would definitely send it back with photos of the Chibson. I would also email Gibson customer support too. That is an American product being beaten by a chinese one, someone at Gibson has to be bothered by this including every one of the shop floor employees. Is there no pride in craftsmanship anymore? This is what happened over here and nowadays a made/built in England tag means nothing apart from its more expensive and thats if you can find something made in England. Oh we have heinz beans they are still English and great quality 😁👍

[@Aussieknuckleheads]

I can never find these chibson on ebay 🤔. Maybe Australia has banned them 🤷‍♂️

[@krumple4skin548]

Seen some yesterday

[@Aussieknuckleheads]

The Gibson should've been sent back to where you brought it from. For the $$ Gibson charges these day's, they should be perfect

[@FultonStreetBeats]

Your probably right. But I decided to do a finish correction on it. Zzound did knock a bunch off the price for the troubles. Thanks for watching!

[@thebaldshredder]

Boy that's disappointing. For 1800 there better be no flaws.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

The deeper I dove, the more I found. Under the pickguard was horrendous. But after 12 hrs of work, its looking pretty good. 🙄😵‍💫😆

[@richardwright345]

I would get my money back.