UnCancelled with Gareth Cliff - Professor Mamokgethi Phakeng on Education in South Africa

[@ephphatha7269]

This woman has to be minister of higher education PERIOD.

[@ayaground]

She is phenomenal... I sense a subtle yet vivid energy of eliminating the box that the world over is trying to put us all in, by force. Her style of activism is unique! #itisengaging #thoughtprovokingspeaker...

[@laurenfriedman5713]

I still believe all children are not cut out for university. There should still be trade schools. Electricians, plumbers, mechanics etc... have an amazing job in any country. We are in need of artisans

[@innocentiaphahlamohlaka4215]

There are trade schools in South Africa. Esp close to mining towns

[@nicholas4804]

Agreed. Within days of arriving on campus, I realised that I was out of my depth there.

[@lesedi3040]

Definitely 😢

[@Vv-fl2rm]

Correct and the focus on those other avenues would also boost our economy.

[@figgettit]

@@innocentiaphahlamohlaka4215 the system as it existed has been vastly compromised. this is well known.

[@charlesmaluleka8279]

This was too short, the type of leadership we need as a country. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@khutsomaponya5511]

I love how you pick your guests. This is a well curated space. You are more focused on the content and not so much on the clout. I'm enjoying this space.

[@urbanunicorn87]

insightful and inspiring conversation. Professor Phakeng's passion and commitment to creating positive change is evident throughout the interview. Her vision for a more equitable education system that provides equal opportunities for all learners is both practical and visionary.

[@phill029]

so what happen why is she out cause I agree with you

[@gomolemomanche257]

Amazing interview. Love that she’s telling her story & laughing about it. The establishment can be disturbing at times….

[@ayandambatha6516]

Great interview by Gareth especially with the inspiring Prof. Mamokgethi Phakeng 😊 🙌. She understands what Black people have gone through when it comes to education. I admire her Leadership at UCT and proud that she left because the institution before it became toxic to her health.

[@lee7973]

What she speaks and does is very controversial...like not all people are meant for university, like not all people are leaders so is the Prof..not a great leader at all. Only driving political agenda's instead of driving education.

[@chiefer1325]

Let her speak .... Thank you for letting her speak... What she went through cannot be left unsaid....

[@MaTT-ovi]

UCT for sure lost a gem in Prof Phakeng. I would listen to her all day!

[@phumzamayekiso5156]

She is passionate about education ❤

[@sebentilezanini1085]

He didn't single handedly negotiate our independence....he was part of the team our King put together 🇸🇿 lovely show by the way

[@seputse]

❤ Absolutely love Prof,inspiring ,educated and relatable. I hope she gets the opportunity to be the Minister of high education

[@lawalusman5316]

You're loved and cherished across Africa. Keep On shining the deputy mother.

[@fionahorsley908]

I enjoyed listening to Prof Phakeng, great woman

[@mcebisisidlai6947]

Mama Kgethi is just amazing! So inspiring. I am now working on my clothing line and it is inspired by her "make education fashionable campaign". Thank you Gareth for this platform, definitely UnCancelled!!!

[@DSENYATSI]

Her perception and perspective on education is precisely diversified, she knows the difference between the privileged and deprived when coming to accession on education in overall. Academical education has been politically influenced and inclined from initial, and now is very difficult for a deprived child to become an academic.

[@mortontlemo721]

This was nice, next one I am attending physically

[@lebogangsebothe2759]

What a powerful episode Gareth, you need to be consistent going forward. Here you brought a power house and you need to top this🔥🤞🏿 Am joining the community

[@lesedilucymotloung]

Gareth your pronunciation of African names👌, sounds like you are from kasi. I've just subscribed, loved the interview.

[@lehlogonololekoloane3170]

Man Prof Kgethi, i STAN 😍LOVE LOVE HER, she is so free-spirited, actually let me get my LLM

[@tumisho4266]

Refreshing… Fascinating… wish it was longer!

[@Mrdjwhoknows]

I was there live and it felt too short as well. I’m hoping to attend again, the CliffCentral team is just great as a team, they very nice

[@sinqobilengwenya6790]

Fantastic lady. She is the auntie every South African should have. I really hope she opens a university. I would love to be under her tutelage.

[@sphelelemkhatshwa9173]

I will watch any and all interviews with this lady❤❤❤

[@Loadedopinions]

Gareth is a beautiful human being.

[@SPECTRE559]

The initiative of the professor to entrepreneurship as a solution to unemployment has my attention.

[@pablomogosi8712]

So important this channel. Good job

[@KatMak01]

I am in love with Phumi's voice 😍

[@bathandwamki5490]

Wow!!! What a woman. A rare gem. May God bless her and expand her sphere of influence.

[@otsilemosweu709]

Wow🎉 Gareth what an interview .worth my time

[@rachel4274]

thoroughly enjoyed this, I do wish it was a bit longer. She definitely needs more airtime.

[@mogwerarichardtsatsengseng1103]

Thanks for this, best time spent. So enlightening to listen to Mme Mamokgethi Phakeng 🙏

[@desiree9667]

Prof Mampkgethi is gorgeous 😍

[@DRDREWPOETRAPHY]

Danko for acknowledging of Khoi San people as indigenous people of SA.

[@Crazyworld489]

This was a very educational episode!👏 I will share this channel to my peeps.

[@MonwaShezi]

Always a joy to watch Prof Phakeng speak. Thanks Gareth and team for this interview.

[@ayaground]

Mmamogkethi you Rock sisi! Thanks team for showcasing this lady❤

[@shaunbosch76]

Great episode so far!!

[@sisazandisile1337]

This platform is really great , the conversation was honest and informative

[@yanelamtati8131]

What a great interview, am penning down all the wisdom form Prof so seriously until Gareth comes through with his R12m comments 😂

[@BabalwaGexa-yw9ny]

I like her top....African traditional wear from central Africa precisely Cameroon and parts of Nigeria taraba state.....

[@fortunes_child]

I'd be honored to meet the Dr. Mamokgethi soon as I arrive in Cape Town

[@jonajonie4066]

Prof that is

[@khulasandethembalethu9561]

this is inspiring...cant wait for the podcast with mac to be released

[@Mbalings]

Never such an episode

[@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087]

❤Thank you. I have hope.

[@ztnelwamondo]

Brilliant Mind🎉

[@thandombatha8242]

Love her! She is in purpose for sure

[@thurancecameron]

I appreciate that Gareth paid Homage to the comments section 😊

[@thurancecameron]

​ not where i live

[@thurancecameron]

You can get Prednisones at the pharmacy

[@boitumelodilapiso2294]

She can become the first woman President Republic of South Africa Mma Phakeng ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Journey_with_Gwendol]

“Even black middle class don’t want to see the poor”😢

[@marcusdigangwane4201]

…who want to see the poor🤧?…even the poor don’t want to see the other poor😢

[@mosakgotse1187]

the most coolest intellect of our lifetime,

[@mosakgotse1187]

i highly concur with the speaker audience 1;25;38 on the issue of academic journals not being free to access instead one having to pay for them. i honestly think the system is depriving those who cant afford the opportunity to indulge various scholars and acquire information. if something is published it should be available to the public without a hassle to access it

[@tintswaloshingange7246]

GOD elevates you when opposition cancels you ,PROF Mamokgethi is that example

[@lwazitshambo7762]

Oh l love this woma. Where can l get her shoes l love the print.

[@carlamostert5950]

Come to Rhodes (UCKAR) plz!! We need this kind of new thinking!

[@LukeRev480]

Yathandwa mama vha...utsho ngengqondw'entle.

[@mpumibikitsha6891]

God has a way of yanking you out of a situation you thought was IT in preparation for a better suited one where you are needed most. Maybe this is one such situation Prof.

[@nomkhosimashile2942]

You have done well Prof..Jealous Down...

[@rufarokumbula1639]

Love this

[@phill029]

greate ep but the sound is super low

[@rexona1178]

I like her African dress. It is originally from my tribe (the Grassfields) in Cameroon.

[@mpho438]

Nobody is talking about The answer Prof. gave regarding universities not putting out innovation, and all the guys making global impact are dropouts, the likes of Steve Jobs etc was brilliant.

[@ayaground]

Yerrrr I bursting at seams, the sister is getting me excited and invigorated... The Agriculture part is just my field and that is exactly how I feel about planting crops and learning about them!!!

[@thabangmazibuko9385]

How does one purchase tickets for this?

[@hmwakamui]

You have listeners in Botswana too....

[@sizwekingmbambo1484]

I Like the professors Top😂

[@luthandotetani6657]

Tjoooo at Fort Hare University. Corruption is deep ey.

[@LukeRev480]

Well. South Africa is corrupt. Wait until you hear others. One day you won't single it you will say "I thought🤭🤭"

[@qumbupodcast5180]

For years I was asking myself why Cliff Central was not capitalizing on KZbin since they are the one who introduced the online culture in S.A

[@akhonagushman619]

Inspirational. Love prof. ❤

[@jacquesdewet2661]

I can remember the ANC slogan "Liberation before education"

[@SPECTRE559]

I applied to the UCT initiative of the online school. I got rejected.

[@nicklindhorst9708]

Is the sound insanely low?

[@PulaNews]

Interesting to learn that Bophuthatswana gvt opened way for black people to get professional education with experiential learning which is what is currently done.

[@BabaMakhanya]

I hope my wives age well like Prof Mamokgethi. 😍😍

[@kabelop9082]

Degree + work experience for all qualifications would be ideal for todays kids it would help even sift or let people know they are not cut out for the job before hand.

[@phill029]

why was she removed wow .what is going on

[@SPECTRE559]

I am still struggling for a job which requires a major in mathematics and statistics. Marks on my academic record are poor. I am currently doing an administration job. I have given up looking for work done by investment, data analysts and engineers; quantitative analysts. I have given up looking for work heavily requiring a mathematics and statistics major. Starting a business (which will probably fail) is the only way to respond to the extended definition of unemployment.

[@SPECTRE559]

Is there medication to cure cancer?

[@askperci]

Mama Phakeng is so energetic, I wonder if she has aspirations to be the president? Of course, running as the independent candidate

[@SPECTRE559]

I agree when it is mentioned that academia are obsolete institutions. My experience has taught me (I hate to say) that having an undergraduate level science degree is of no use.

[@andrewnaicker5090]

Gareth, you seem to have mellowed over time and with age. Listening to you back in the day, we where primed for interviews were the content would at times veer in a direction where we could expect, awkward silences, controversy, you stirring the hornets nest, rocking the applecart with great enthusiasm, pushing the envelope, man . I guess what im really saying, is that i expected an edgy interview, Gareth. Prof courted controversy and somehow , she seemed to be handled with kid gloves. That, Eugene Khoza is a really funny guy.

[@Me-hg7hh]

She snaps when you adk het the hard questions, you have to tow the line with her ask jj tabane. Its her way or the highway

[@Drawingboredi]

​@@Me-hg7hh Go to the highway kaloku

[@PulaNews]

It was gonna get messy because Prof was not going to let him be controversial and arrogant and robust while tackling those topics you are referring to. Everyone who goes to Gareth goes there prepared and wrapped in defense. It's good that Gareth respected her but I noticed he was getting bored when Prof went on and on

[@Me-hg7hh]

You dont mess with Phakeng. She told UCT ombud Zethu Makhamadela that she has been added in her little black book, when Zethu took her to task.

[@peterngobeni8723]

Nota started like this 😂. Jumping and humping every platform. Enjoyed the spotlight too and got lost in it. I hope it doesn't get to that prof.

[@amogelanglegodi]

😂😂😭

[@dangakong6304]

Can we spend some time and talk about her gorgeous outfit, she looks amazing in it

[@ayaground]

When it comes to Decolonising, the whole world over needs to be decolonised, including the decolonisers themselves.

[@imatterconsultingbyvukosim1930]

I love prof but she’s not really answering the questions. I feel like she’s diverting a lot. Takes the long route to answer certain questions

[@africacatalystshowvlog6440]

Gareth should invite you too

[@lee7973]

Playing too much politics, that is the reason she needed to leave UCT. Thank God for that🙉🙊🙈

[@Zwelethu202]

I don't see a problem in the "long winded" route if someone is making sense, and she is. Everyone has different engagement styles. Kanye west takes goes on for a long time too before ultimately answering a question, and he is a genius.

[@ndivhomathoma6325]

TRUST FUND BABY G CLIFF🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hlalanathimbimbi2527]

Where do the seed of spinach come from😂

[@weymouthesterhuizen1145]

G4S = GeForce (That is the name I am sure.....)

[@francoiswilliams]

Gauteng been taken over by outsiders...

[@lee7973]

Gareth, ... Prof is not the brightest. What is fascinating is that after 1994, SA had only 1 built university? All the previous trade schools, teachers colleges closed...wtf for. She only speaks politics and flashy about Dr, Phds...no humility in her speech.

[@JabsMajozi]

Sorry Lee. I still don't get your point from the first premise you made.

[@LukeRev480]

Facts only!! Maybe they don't sound humble.

[@thandekakhathi7894]

Steve that Steve there blah blah blah😂

[@luckymtshweni5366]

The professor is not that smart.She doesn't have any new ideas.She is obsessed with identity politics and equality.

[@lee7973]

That is why she needed to leave UCT...

[@chichichiguvi7693]

Maybe because it plays a significant role within the context she speaks about and it's unavoidable when dealing with those particular issues

[@JabsMajozi]

She has a PhD in Mathematics Education. Lol. University doesn't only measure intellectual brilliance. But if you have not completed formal education, it will be difficult to wrap your head around this idea. She actually doesn't have to be that smart to make a difference. What is your point sir?

[@LukeRev480]

She is excellent in identifying problems. Maybe you think problem solving is coming with new ideas but that's not always the case, but being creative with your old one's. I have never seen such a great combination of intellect & creativity.👌👌

[@tsepom455]

I don't agree with the audience member who says university is obsolete. The same Silicon Valley companies and entrepreneurs use students from MIT for engineering, IT, computer science, data analysis etc. For most posts you even need a university qualification.

[@figgettit]

literally nobody says wits and uct are the same. literally noone.

[@khongelanishiluvana3467]

Do you run in the same circles with her?

[@figgettit]

@@khongelanishiluvana3467 yes.

[@smallgirlBigGod-b8u]

Yoooh Gareth interrupted Prof many times

[@kingkumkazithe2nd339]

Too long self indulgent pointless rambling, please get to interview sooner

[@lebogangmokoenalebza6949]

the prof who never resolved the issues of dtudents at uct facing systemic racism issues the entire dystem of uct unfavoured the african child😢

[@chichichiguvi7693]

I think she definitely made progress the system was flawed and she worked very hard to dismantle that system and although it's not gone I'm sure we can agree the standing of black students and the measures put in place to include them were far better.

[@Charms0910]

Well done Gareth..however a lot of "erms" 😮 from her and waving of arms😂

[@nomkhosimashile2942]

​@@Therealnetworkpodcastexactly !! thank you Sir...

[@Anonymous-td9iv]

So what🙄

[@serogolemogole2685]

1st, her being a Maths educator by profession means she'd have probably have cultivated a way of thinking that makes her inclined to being extra careful with her word selection when expressing herself because excatness and clarity are very important to mathematicians, 2nd, english is not her first language and that means she probably doesnt process (some of) her thoughts in the language, and so as she articulates herself she has to constantly translate her thoughts into a second language, something that some of us who didn't grow up speaking English as a first language can relate to, and speaking of laguages, how many African languages can you speak? And also her waving hands like that as she speaks is something typical of people who tend to speak pationately and have lively personalities, does that offend your sensibilities?