Undead Models Comparison (Reforged vs Classic) | Warcraft 3 Reforged Beta

[@Cooil1]

Detheroc really let himself go.

[@Alexgaby15Channel]

He let the festivities commence alright

[@Gabrielbarsch]

dayum i was about to comment that

[@Alexgaby15Channel]

@@Gabrielbarsch Why are you everywhere?

[@felmargego2534]

I was gonna say this wtf 😂😂

[@accelerator7952]

He looks sh1t

[@schrodingerskatze6487]

All those years of playing and only now I realise that the Crypt Fiend uses a swarm of spiders as attack pets. I allways thought it would threw some sort of spiderweb-bola-thingies.

[@user-br4qp4pw2o]

Detheroc is my favorite Dreadlord from now on

[@wafflezz52]

I love how they gave all the dreadlords so much personality especially Chonky boi

Even the cultists have shoulder pads, looks so strong for a worker XD

[@cactuscoe9096]

Acolytes have the highest DPS of all workers (not including ghouls/militia)

[@joshuakim5240]

The acolytes look like combat mages, funnily enough.

[@brandonfelarca1721]

@Sam A3 in a world full of battle royals and short attentions spans it has to be flashy to sell.

[@crashtagiyev]

Because there are neutural minions looking like Acolyte lvl 3-5

[@tuanotrananh6123]

there some neutral hostile creature that in fact use Acolyte's model in game

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

It seems that Detheroc didnt take Legions defeat very well

[@seanandre4432]

Got too drunk

[@bilgerat938]

LMFAO

[@Prushinthespirit]

Archimonde executing Order 66

[@igorthelight]

Right :-)

[@Archont_]

Sargeras: Do it!

[@felmargego2534]

Lmao

[@janlancos370]

Where's my boy Anetheron, the orange Dreadlord with the Orb of Lightning? He was in the last mission of RoC? And Mephistroth, blue one, Orb of Frost?

[@ArcanePower]

It seems that they are recolored versions of melee Dreadlord, they do not have they own model in world editor, never had.

[@starshooter5831]

Anetheron had a beautiful light blue colour

[@lordfrost3752]

@@starshooter5831 Mephistroth was blue, Anetheron was orange !

[@starshooter5831]

@@lordfrost3752 been like 18 months i watched the interlude, I forgot, nevertheless both dreadlords deserve diffetent skins from the standard one,

[@lordfrost3752]

@@starshooter5831 I totally agree !

[@jvg7498]

guess they saved the ogre's jiggle physics for Detheroc.

[@igorthelight]

"Archimonde! Kill him!" - Arcane, 2019

[@TonyFelony19]

13:30 many WoW players were waiting for that

[@Hunter-rr5ue]

One of the reasons i'm buying reforged is to watch her die in HD

[@AK-ss8bv]

😂

[@akothslayerofthedead276]

hoo yeah... for the real horde !

[@mittenstherealest]

Not a player and I still love it.

[@patrickb1811]

for Sylvanas! The Queen!

[@supastar4784]

The new obsidian statue needs a "Woof!" as unit response

[@nguyenbagiap7433]

Undead in Reforced: "SHOULDERPAD!"

[@artyomluchkin8904]

also tons of gold

[@artyomluchkin8904]

@Cegesh new Thrall model is pure gold omg, and undeads have lots of on their buildings :(

[@Aztonio]

@@artyomluchkin8904 Thrall (Orgrim's armor) has always been like that, but we can see in the Editor another Thrall model (dismount), who is less colorful. (And that's not gold)

[@artyomluchkin8904]

@@Aztonio dunno, in original wc3 he had black armour with golden elements, and in reforged he's in golden armour with a bit of black elements.

[@edworld23]

Kel' Thuzad looks dope

[@voidmaster6353]

Which model?

[@edworld23]

@@voidmaster6353 13:35

[@l.w.1014]

Lady Lightstalker and Dutchess Ragereaver? Boi, that sure looks like Arthas to me tho!

[@retrogaming7562]

it is arthas, it kinda looks like blizzard still have not made more models except a fem DK and arthas

[@Aztonio]

All models are not finished yet (for male DK, DH and others...)

[@seanandre4432]

Hes gayy

[@iantarrayo3088]

No in skirmishes heroes have fake names actually

[@nickdos6218]

Detheroc used his thiccness to enslave a top ranking human warlord - Varimathras

[@guilleranger_98]

15:20 detheroc having a stroke, too many souls it seems

[@dougbowman4128]

The common death knight has a different model in game. When you're placing in the editor it uses Arthas' model, but in game it's a chick with an axe. If you kill and res it the new model will be what you see.

[@justnoob8141]

Hm, nice

[@yehiaelswaify1989]

The moment we've all been waiting for!!

[@starsfalldown1234567]

Yaaasss the female death knight is here to SLAYYYY

[@QuestionableObject]

5:17 Nice try that's Arthas's model replacing the actual new Death Knight model.

[@GAMEZONELITE]

that banshee Sylvanas Windrunner looks like it was portet from the WOW Shadowland expansion, just saying.

[@SampoPaalanen]

Actually that for was first seen in the BFA intro cinematic though it's not a direct port (at least of the BFA version) as it doesn't have the leather and mail armor Sylvanas wears in BFA and Shadowlands intro, while this Sylvanas the bare mid rift and cloth pants of the earlier WoW version.

[@nestiboy]

Damn, Archimonde is a savage, killing all his troops like that

[@SampoPaalanen]

Well if you played the campaign you'd remember that killing his own troops seem to be Archimonde's MO when it comes to any sort of failure.

[@Braithekaikiller]

@@SampoPaalanen Archimote for hots?

[@felmargego2534]

@@SampoPaalanen yeah, like how he killed that one doom guard for allowing tyrande to "escape" (when in fact she just shadowmelded) 😂😂😂

[@SampoPaalanen]

Yeah that was the scene I was thinking about, you'd think 25 000+ year old demon would know better

[@GAMEZONELITE]

Why is the Meat Wagon throwing purple blob instead of bloody human carcasses?

[@zamaskowany12]

Blizzard's chinese overlords don't like blood or gore.

[@felmargego2534]

@@zamaskowany12 for real? china really ruins everything...

[@thelonewolf42]

It's just the beta, that's why, probably it's not finished yet, or maybe current settings are violence off

[@G1ingy]

So the Abomination's hook went from being a chain to a floppy long piece of rubber? Also, wtf did they do to the Meat Wagon's projectile? It was the coolest siege machine in the game because it flung bones and meat! Also, could we see the gargoyle's new melee?

[@joonjoon819]

Shhh Blizzard has certain Chinese masters to please first. They don't like blood and gore.

[@zamaskowany12]

Chinese overlords above all else

[@Nightblade795]

I would agree, but Chinese wouldn’t allow the skeletons and ghouls at all so why keep those fine but every time thing else changed

[@regardolupin2865]

Hook's chain is missing texture. Look at the one wrapped around arm. It's clearly work in progress.

[@XxAgeofLovexX]

There's an option to turn on and off gore, but its not enabled in beta

[@Braithekaikiller]

I totally forgot keltuzad had that look on warcraft 3 xD and now we see him like "that" on hots

[@Ovvkoz]

I forgot how goofy the ears on the obsidian statue used to look. 4:07

[@alfredogumenscheimero2350]

16:45 Dreadlord-Squad looks terrific, Mal' Ganis perfect adaptation with better graphics of the old model.

[@justnoob8141]

And then Detheroc

[@nakenmil]

Most of these are great - But I'm not so happy about the Tichondrius one. Old Tichondrius seemed sort of refined and sophisticated in an evil way. New Tichondrius looks like a crazy hobo.

[@nickdos6218]

Totally agree

[@lazerNeo]

Bruh they're undead, they ain't supposed to look pretty unless you're Sylvanas

[@adhdaiden6297]

Lazer Luche Tichondrius is a demon same with all the other dreadlords they’re just part of the undead faction

[@slavirachev6016]

I expect much more,I think the old desine is better,but it's with smaller resolution

[@roydrygo2]

100 % yes. If you take away the graphics, textures etc. and evaluate the design purely, the undeads have poor artistic work. less is more, too many armor and details, but ...

[@CardboardBoxGod]

Nice to see we still got Smack-a-lytes

[@73mleduc]

I bought the game and I'm excited to play it but side by side I think classic looked better for the most part. Classic seems like it has more character, I don't know maybe it was just an artist creating vs an artist trying to recreate within tight boundaries.

[@blacklight4720]

I was shocked when Detheroc took off as death animation.

[@arturtoth3185]

Detheroc eatin too much of that soul food.

[@Whiskers-Giggles]

I'm surprised that Tichondrius didn't end the same way because he eats a lot of those too

[@Kolljak]

saw the banshee and the only thing going though my mind is "They brought me back!!"

[@animelovingfan6369]

Wow detheroc really hit the spotlight lol

[@kuu-zaki4577]

Was actually confused when the Death Knights were named Lady and Duchess

[@SampoPaalanen]

The Default DK is now female and it doesn't seem to give a properly gendered title if you get the Arthas lookalike version so you get a male DK with a female title.

[@Aztonio]

@@SampoPaalanen It's a beta, there will be more models

[@SampoPaalanen]

@@Aztonio Maybe, maybe not, these could be the final set of models at launch. Personally I'd love if they added DKs based on the WoW DK model or the Ebon Blade armor(s). Though if it is possible with the engine properly gendered names would be nice too so "lord" or "duke" instead of "lady" or "duchess".

[@Aztonio]

@@SampoPaalanen us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/compilation-all-we-know-so-far/1574

[@GaidenDS10]

Woah! Acolytes n the Necromancer sounds like these guys got promoted so they get better intimidating costumes, very rad Blizzard and demonic looking too. (**gotta miss those semi-cartoonish ghoul faces though)

[@vitaliyred622]

I like how they downgraded the amount of blood in the game called WAR CRAFT.

[@ArcanePower]

There is option to turn on and off violence, not working at the moment. Still weird, you should not play WARcraft in first place, if you do not want to see violence.

[@kilerek3]

@Arcane But autor is using sarcasm... xDDD

[@vitaliyred622]

@@ArcanePower Ohhh i didn't know. Thanks but still it is strange. Ohh wait it is for China.

[@GAMEZONELITE]

@@ArcanePower What do you expect? This soy dads and soccer moms are too self important to actually care and watch what their 12 year olds and below are playing. I mean kids shouldn't even be buying this game but this "woke" parents likes to complain and shift the narrative. With all of this north american puritans destroying the video game entertainment or entertainment in general. It's already bad that Blizzard is sucking on Chinese dicks, now they're bowing down and sucking on those spiritual puritan cocks.

[@krauser3806]

Bending down for China

[@Kaneisback2]

Aww was hoping they'd include specials for the blue and orange ones from WC3, (the orange one fought with Archamodne in the last campaign mission for NE).

[@LadyDoomsinger]

*The Undead was always my favorite team to play, I've been so excited for what their Reforged models would look like.* 0:09 Acolyte: with their new shoulderpads they don't really look like simple cultists anymore - but I know Blizz has a fetish for oversized shoulders, so I'll let it go. 0:30 Shade: As far as I can tell, it looks pretty much the same, just more detailed. 0:47 Ghoul: Absolutely gorgeously grotesque, I love it. Always seemed kind of tame in the original WC3. 1:10 Abomination: Looks pretty much the same, with more details. 1:33 Meat Wagon: No big difference. 1:55 Crypt Fiend: OMG! Look at them legs? Only with Reforged did I notice that the original version didn't have the right number! 2:17 Gargoyle: Looks... I don't know, a bit more masculine? 2:38 Banshee: Not too bad, but the neutral Ghost and Wraith models looked way cooler. 3:00 Necromancer: Again with the shoulderpads?! 3:23 Skeleton Warrior: No complaints - love how it is more "fleshed out" in Reforged. Get it? 3:45 Skeletal Mage: I don't know why, but its death animation is so funny to me. 4:07 Obsidian Statue: Always one of my least favorite units in terms of design, but I like the new Egyptian vibe. 4:29 Destroyer: Bird wings, dog's head, man's torso, and... is that a lion's body? 4:51 Frost Wyrm: No complaints - looks pretty much the same (more details). I like how it doesn't have all that purple to clash with its team colors anymore. 5:14 Death Knight: Model mix-up or is he transgender now? That's the Arthas model, as you can tell by the hero name (and other videos), the new Death Knight model is female - which I think is pretty awesome - though ideally you should be able to choose gender for every hero class. 5:35 Lich: *More* shoulderpads?! But I like the floating spell tomes, always liked the Lich hero. I wonder what a female Lich would look like... would you even be able to tell the difference? 5:57 Dreadlord: I like it. Never was fond of that particular hero, but at least now he looks cool. 6:20 Crypt Lord: What's with that weird horn-thing on his head? Looks a bit... excessive. 6:42 Carrion Beetle: Same with the horn-thing... It's just too big. *Skipping the buildings; they're all okay, but not particularly interesting.* 11:16 Zombie: Same as with the Ghoul, I love how much more grotesque it looks, far more suitable for the Undead. A pity they only appear in the campaign; should be summoned by necromancers like the skeletons. 11:38 Kel'Thuzad: (sighs) More shoulderpads. But at least now he's of an appropriate height, always thought it weird that he was a dwarf as a mortal, but not as a Lich. 12:06 Sylvanas (Ghost): My new favorite, a pity she'll only appear like this for a couple of campaign maps, she looks absolutely gorgeous. 12:28 Sapphiron: Looks pretty much like any Frost Wyrm to me, but... bigger maybe? I can't tell. 12:50 Anub'arak: Well, at least he has an appropriately sized "horn-thing". 13:12 Sylvanas (Frozen Throne): I liked her ghost form more, but her Dark Ranger model isn't too bad either. 13:34 Kel'Thuzad (Lich): I think the regular Lich model looks better, but its nice that the unique campaign characters now have unique models. 13:56 Arthas: Already saw this model with the Death Knight (5:14). I like it, but I also love the new female Death Knight model. 14:18 Balnazzar: Meh, don't really feel strongly about this model, one way or the other. But again, nice that unique characters now how unique models. 14:40 Dalvengyr: I don't remember where he fits into the campaign, but I think he looks better without the excessive shoulderpads. 15:02 Detheroc: Read all the other comments, what more is there to say? I like the uniqueness. 15:24 Mal'Ganis: So, I notice the Dreadlords are like the Paladins of team Human; there's a ton of them, all with new unique models. Nice, but there's not really a lot more to say. Perhaps if the different models appeared randomly in custom games, like their names are random (I'm gonna look into that in the World Editor). 15:46 Tichondrius: Really, I can't think of anything else to say about Dreadlords, except I'm a bit bummed there isn't the same variety with all the other Heroes. 16:08 Varimathras: Dreadlord names all sound the same to me, but again he actually looks better *without* the shoulderpads. *Overall I'm pretty happy with all these models.*

[@johndane9754]

The size of one's pauldrons is a measure of one's authority. The bigger the better. Everyone knows that.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@johndane9754 I thought that was hand-sizes...

[@FireFly7961]

5:13 well, they need to work on names for DK lol

[@MarieAvora]

the new generic DK will be female, dunno why the model wasn't here

[@DreamingGod05]

@@MarieAvora No, there is a new generic female DK, but your hero unit models and names are randomized. You can even get campaign character and models randomized. (ala Arthas)

[@Aztonio]

@@DreamingGod05 not like that, but there will be, new male DK (and DH) model

[@anhaoblahblahhh9747]

15:02 Detheroc after finishing only eats Big Mac challenge.

[@scrappylikemetal]

Draenor did not explode. Detheroc just ate most of it.

[@hipsterviking2658]

I can only imagine the custom games with these newer models

[@SilentioMortus]

Why does Tichondrius have a skull on his belt? In the original, there should be a large and green stone.

[@Aztonio]

Balnazzar have it

[@GoonManGuy]

Guess the Lady Death Knight model is still in the works. It’s using Arthas’ atm.

[@Macushla.]

I really hope they change the effects of the heroes when they attack and the way they attack. It should be different from the others.

[@chantivos6657]

the studio of making this remaster have a talk last week, i went to there. The director say they cant do any change due to they still using same game engine , which mean everything on programming need to same , atk frame rate animation frame rate(if the attack animation only got 3 frame, they only can do for improvement is graphic improve), even modeling also cant remodel.(they took the old model low poly to improve to high poly). So yeah, dont blame them, blizzard dont want to improve anythings beside graphic. That why blizzard itself dont want to do that, that throw to other studio, because they know how hard it is.

[@Macushla.]

Im not blaming anyone,@@chantivos6657. Thanks for the information. Im really happy for what theyve been doing to improve it. I cant wait to play it again. Cheers!

[@chantivos6657]

@@Macushla. Haha.. actually is a great talk to let us know what behind the scene. Cheers!

[@lolialf]

why remove the trapped ghosts from ziggurats and haunted mine?!

[@DoktoreBlah]

I noticed that as well - hope they are not finished yet

[@robertlupa8273]

I've always thought that the 'Sacrifice' icon was just a spine, but now it's more clear that it's a pale hand with a knife.

[@Servellion]

13:30 Tyrande's favorite part.

[@bobdole7451]

I was hoping they'd go for the Warcraft 2 style skeleton death knight design for the male DK skin. But probably not.

[@PRCAMADNNATROIAPRCDISERPENTEFT]

@Arcane what i suggest is to icrease the amount of differences in the models of all those units that in the original game were just the clone of another unit

[@astralp4292]

Sure we'll see these undead models in Shadowlands, especially the one we never saw much : Gargoyle, destroyers...And also, these buildings ! You can notice that the Lich King Helmet is now represented on the skull of the Damned temple...But is it his helm ? ;)

[@3DLowPolyPls]

Well, honestly there is something about the classic Warcraft 3 models that has a charm or maybe it's the fact they are less blurry and not do not melt into environment that I prefer. That said I absolutely love the fact they've made custom models for all the named characters the UMS potential of which is probably enough for me to look past my previous point

[@Candlemancer]

Not sure about the weird rubbery rope on the abomination's hook. Definitely doesn't look like a chain.

[@sen5466]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I really don't like the fact that some units lost their exaggerated animations (Death lord and carrion beetle death anim, for example). New anims are kinda... boring?

[@roydrygo2]

i agree, and for me, as a child, the first time I discover w3 and its art, that exaggerated or caricaturistic style but epic was one of the things that made me want it most

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

I would have appreciated it if they made efforts with the projectiles. Like with Obsidian statue the energy ball should come from the wands but its coming from the belly or something.

[@Aztonio]

It's a beta...

[@samperdanil9835]

0:35 Venom?

[@rekonener2362]

I don't know about those shoulder plates on the acolytes. It just doesn't feel right.

[@knell18897]

So is acolytes slapping attack from warcraft 3

[@kingpaddy9009]

I miss Anetheron and Mephistroph among the dreadlords. I wonder if blizzard give them unique models, too.

[@mr.broccoli24]

Imagine playing DotA with these new models!

[@spearowgilly3955]

Please, can you make a World Editor video showing the new triggers, abilities and functions?

[@user-br4qp4pw2o]

Most importantly. Are the models in .mdx or what other type of models?

[@ArcanePower]

Not sure If I am the right guy for the job, I was barely using world editor before W3:Reforged

[@SbsGrinth]

With the introduction of Madraxxas (sp?) the art of 'summoning' makes more sense.

[@thapsico26]

Hmm some nice remodeling, but I miss those specters animations spinning around some buildings. Meat wagon projectile should have more gore. Kel'Thuzard ghost is too bright blue, should be more spectral. And don't know what to think about female Death Knight, but the fat Dreadlord is nice.

[@BeegBWolf]

Dota Nightstalker with Detheroc model would be fun to play

[@YhelloWish]

I like new models but the attack animation is not impact and satisfied enough as the Original

[@田中花子-n1f]

I personally think that the original is better since it has more attack animations so i hope they add more attack animations for reforged

[@edwardness7497]

Was Kel'thuzad considered "undead" before Arthas killed him, or is that mislabeled, was never completely sure, I'm referring to his human looking model

[@dr.strangelove9815]

From a story standpoint, Kel'thuzad was still alive, like the acolytes, some death knights and necromancers, but for game mechanics they are "undead"; if anything, they may have their souls imprisoned by the Lich King in exchange for power and, in the case of the Cult of the Damned, freedom from the hierarchical structure of Lordaeron.

[@coolblade23]

will you add to the list units like the Heretic or Giant Skeleton ? I am curios of those units animation (spell and attack)

[@AlesterMyersWick]

what the? buffed up dreadlords except for 'the big show'-sized dreadlord.

[@Andrey.U]

Let them go. Frostmourne thirsts for blood.

[@CorruptorPeste]

All new bones tentacles from buildings. Can they stop moving so much? And if they are not going to make a bone araucaria it is better that they are not so open.

[@Shovelchicken]

What’s up with the meat wagon shooting some kind of arcane projectile?

[@itsmekinowa6052]

That meat wagon is censored as hell are you in China?

[@hubert36667]

Detheroc did nice glow up

[@quocthangle1334]

15:03 Absolute Unit

[@antonyvasilevsky4292]

Какого хрена у обычного дк есть Фростморн????

[@enariken8758]

Damn acolyte new model is badass like Assassin this model will be my hero in world editor

[@watwat3682]

Why is the meat wagon projecticle purple?

[@Snowrazor]

Man, you messed up death knight model - you showed arthas 2 times, and female death knight 0 times :(

[@Snowrazor]

@Julia Hansen time code plz

[@Snowrazor]

@Julia Hansen sorry, didn't read into your comment, yeah you're right.

[@appeiroon]

melee death knight is transgender now

[@chtn_news]

How come that acolyte hides such astounding biceps under his robe? Or there will be changed mechanic for shadows to be made by sacrificing alliance workers? Wtf?!

[@jivotamiepopfolk1]

the satisfaction I have seeing Sylvanas dying...

[@marcomongke3116]

i wonder if there will be more balance changes? Some major changes might make the game even better! Or make it worse, if done badly.

[@goransekulic3671]

What a haunting, yet beautiful track! What was it?

[@KhangTran-cs7uq]

Is there something wrong with that death knight model in the melee section cause i think it suppose to be female and the one you're showing maybe is Arthas

[@igorthelight]

50% male, 50% female. It's random.

[@psyche1988]

@@igorthelight This is retarded, I want only my male death knight cause you know I'M MALE. Blizzard are such cucks !

[@nikolajsteffensen6578]

hey so. i have been asking around since i have been. pretty bad at keeping up with news. but is there some kind of customizing the heroes? like a male and a female death knight? a male and a female demon hunter? using some of all those fancy paladin skins you showed us? things like that. i was basically just wondering if anything like that is in the game.

[@ArcanePower]

We received updated World editor just yesterday, So I do not know my way around really. What do you mean by customization? Like changing look, cloths, hairs and such?

[@dantles]

pls tell me what file format dose W3 Reforged use, is it same as old W3 (mdx for models and blp for textures) also do you think that models made or ported for old W3 will work with Reforged?

[@blinkintervention2110]

1:57 Crypt fiend doesn't look good. It needs work. It doesn't look ergonomically fast enough.

[@vladislavkuvshinnikov9719]

Сильвана огонь, отдельный респект близам за нее

[@drcielgeek1999]

Which of them is the balanar model?

[@Кодой]

It’s very inconvenient to constantly rewind the video just because the scenes go on simultaneously. Make a 5 seconds interval plz. And I guess Deteroj will be one of the main memes about reforged.

[@alextriphonov4427]

nice job, man!

[@carmack720]

omg my favourite feature of the dreadlord are gone... where are those TAILS???

[@nikitah-wav]

obviously, they can do it better :( also, dreadlords look the same, except Detheroc (he is so funny with this stomach, but very scary at all) and Tichondrius. but Lich models looks freaking awesome!

[@DKPstudios]

Anyone know how to get the female death knight in the editor? I get it in-game and her name is displayed on the regular death knight but I can't find it in the editor.

[@zero_5440]

The new death knight attack animation really bugs me....hope that's fixed for release.

[@DarkMarwin]

I think meat wagon wasn't included

[@Blastros01]

They should add better shadow rendering imo

[@ddenozor]

Why is meat wagon hurling purple stuff? Bloody meat was better.

[@hiroramirez3383]

Where is the blood in the meatwagons! Where is the blood!