🚨 UNDERAPPRECIATED?! 🚨 Cam Newton addresses Lamar Jackson-Michael Vick comparisons | First Take

[@CharkimJoseph]

imagine if Josh Allen had 40 Tds 5 ints and beat Lamar Jackson head to head....they woulda gave him the MVP trophy week 14

[@Leacythegreat43]

Speaaaaak

[@1684-v9q]

Oh my word why do people act like Lamar is this underrated and under appreciated player lol the guy has 2 MVP and he's already a hall of famer why do you talk like there's an agenda against him they game him a weak MVP last year

[@joshuaokparaocha331]

It’s funny cause they already did try to give him the MVP in week 14

[@ssansportsshowaboutnothing5213]

FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cameronbolden5064]

@@1684-v9q because the numbers aren't even close but they have the guy with worse numbers as the favorite.

[@ravensfan2380]

This was by far the BEST MVP conversation I’ve heard. Give both guys their flowers. Josh is having an amazing season & any other year might just be the MVP. However Lamar is having an historically great season & that has ALWAYS been rewarded with the MVP at the QB position.

[@bobdude7490]

Kinda like the heisman conversation!

[@henryjohnson5956]

Well said

[@MikkiChavez]

Josh isn't having an amazing season at all. The Bills are. Josh's stats aren't amazing at all

[@rvoltaire2786]

Cam Newton on first take is gold

[@jeremiahw1369]

Lamar Jackson not only broke Mike Vick's rushing record this year, he also has a higher passing rating than Peyton Manning ever had in any of his 5 mvp seasons. This is historical already. The youngest 2x mvp is treated like an underachieving loser at 27 years old.

[@ezekwu]

exactly...

[@EricKearneyMusic]

Do you need a tissue? 😢 😆

[@junemcneal2588]

sUre you don't need some, bein' that you don't have A life An All🥹😆😆😆😆😭​@@EricKearneyMusic

[@JerZ_Grape17nOX]

@@EricKearneyMusicdo you need a pimp slap 👋🏿?

[@newagain9964]

@@EricKearneyMusicLamar GOATED and would go to HOF if retiring rn. Have fun.

[@brettthomas6327]

Cam is finally getting the credit for revolutioning the position

[@treneshaclark4643]

Amen!!🎉

[@stanleysanchez2898]

Michael Vick did that not Cam

[@brettthomas6327]

@@stanleysanchez2898 Cam was an MVP and took his team to a super bowl with weak offensive weapons. Cam put his body on the line for years. Mike Vick is great but his prison time hurt him in his later yrs. He was good with Andy Reid for about two yrs.

[@micah.1009]

Facts he is the reason I got into NCAA football

[@o7oMillz]

@@brettthomas6327excellent point.

[@210benchbro2]

When she said “every thing that Dogged Michael Vick” I burst out laughing. Read the room lady lol.

[@SouthsideSox007]

I thought the same thing. Poor choice of words at the moment lol

[@camilliondavis4160]

Killed me😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dalonzolong7115]

She definitely dropped a sneak diss..

[@tredawg4847]

@@SouthsideSox007Nobody cares anymore

[@mr.penguin4614]

perfect choice of words.

[@josephwatson7713]

Man I love Fridays when cam come on the show I swear to god 😭

[@officialsonic1]

he did this in 102 games 😱😱😱😱

[@micah.1009]

He might have 10k rush yards in 5-6 years that's crazy 🔥

[@risenconquer6903]

Even more impressive, consider just how many games was he sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter.

[@varsityva943]

Imagine if he played in the fourth quarter of most of those games

[@palindrome1023]

Had he not been injured in 2021 and 2022, he’d probably be near 7,000 already

[@freshxxloud449]

​@@micah.1009vick did it when defenses cukd hit QB

[@slimmike56]

When Vick came back & started with Philly he was def having an MVP calibur year

[@dfwherbie8814]

Love Vick but he didn’t have 300 lbers running a 4:4 collapsing in on him

[@Avg_Vet]

True. Washington fans could tell you that.

[@sir404]

I just told somebody that

[@thefrostyvette876]

@@dfwherbie8814stop it.

[@dfwherbie8814]

@@thefrostyvette876 where did I lie?

[@turkeysandwich7179]

Lamar is definitely under appreciated. 2 years ago the Raven made him available to every team and no team made him an offer.

[@miamimercenary9623]

context matters. no team made an offer because the Ravens could match it and obviously they would’ve. so then you end up in a Cleveland situation where you have a decent QB but tell him eff you we want another guy but then don’t get the other guy. you think your current QB wants to stick around after that bs?? no. Lamar wasn’t unrestricted. stop being disingenuous and tell the whole story

[@stevejohnson7026]

​@@miamimercenary9623Spot on comments!

[@RMMomma4Eva]

That's because Biscotti obviously called up every other owner and told them he would personally cut their ____ off if they even breathed in 8's direction 😂 And paid him.

[@DarrylReese715]

And I love how he followed it up with an MVP season. Amazing.

[@thefrostyvette876]

@@miamimercenary9623so make the offer and see what happens.

[@kingroyalty9621]

Cam is by far the best thing that ever happened to FIRST TAKE …The only one who haven’t been bought out by the Bigger Heads to spread false narratives!

[@NAB777]

“Dogged” Michael Vick is WILD!!!

[@RAJ_E3]

🐕 💀

[@beansnrrice]

Nah she was trolling fasho 🤣

[@Zarkmoneybags]

Michael vick as coach: I need players that got that dog in them Players: 😳😧😳

[@problak202]

😂😂😂

[@nolanwalsh9044]

I’m seeing if anyone was here with that comment. It is tho!!!😂

[@leviathanskye]

Lamar has put up those numbers against the 3rd ranked SOS, while Josh Allen has put up his numbers against the 21st ranked SOS. Not to mention, that before the season a significant portion of sports analysts also said Baltimore would miss the playoffs; even going as far as to say Derrick Henry was an aging superstar that probably would take a significant step back. There was doubt on both these teams entering the season, but when you have one of the toughest schedules and you still lead the league in most statistical categories; that has to equal MVP.

[@MrXBurneracct]

Add in most rankings & tier lists by writers/GMs/media pundits before the season had Lamar ranked behind Allen, Burrow & Herbert 😂 It's a mix between underappreciated & disrespected.

[@brainoverbrawn3404]

Yep, they said losing 3-starters on O-line and the departure of multiple coaches would be too much to overcome. They said the emotional letdown of losing last year's AFCG would be hard to bounce back from.

[@sprawlz6466]

Strength of schedule and strength of opposing defenses is not the same thing. Playing the Bengals twice would boost anyone’s stats.

[@ezekwu]

facts...

[@notsupreme1878]

⁠@@sprawlz6466and playing the jets dolphins and patriots multiple times In a year wouldn’t boost stats either josh Allen in second worse division in football give Lamar his schedule MVP wouldn’t be a debate

[@georgecail5653]

Cam and RC need their own show

[@kevinbrown-pn4qm]

How many more shows we need ?

[@loveyourz4370]

@@kevinbrown-pn4qm😂😂

[@joesmith1544]

I like the fact that Lamar put in the work to be the best player in the league. He was not welcomed with open arms and embraced by some general managers and scouts. The doubts by the media establishment. Yet in spite of all of these negatives, Lamar never let these things change who he is as a quarterback but more importantly as a kind person. A true traliblazer!

[@piplonf8591]

Yawn he need to make some noise in the playoffs ravens get hyped every year just for them to disappoint when it actually matters they only beat a rookie cj stroud last years playoff

[@wook1990]

​@@piplonf8591*yawn* You need to learn how not to be salty and hateful. It's bad for you.

[@Lidogz]

Don’t forget that he has his mother as his agent and not some man who is part of the establishment they didn’t like that at all

[@johnhancock1362]

He has always been against the odds and is great. Never thought he could excel as a passer but he’s great there too. Best player? No. Top 3 yes. I’d say 2.

[@Ade-uw2jb]

​@piplonf8591 Why do you guys like changing goal posts every time when it comes to Lamar? "only beat rookie QB"

[@emmanuelprice9539]

Ryan Clark led a segment this year saying Jayden Daniels was a better passer than Lamar this season!!! Lol man they are wild.

[@nonya6022]

Yeah, they are off the charts some times. Thr crazy thing is he could have made that statement 100% and not even Ravens fans would have disagreed. If he had said JD was a better passer as a rookie than LJ was at the same point in his career. It would have been 100% facts but they always gotta go for viral moment with the rage bait takes. Now he's lost credibility because that is a freezing cold take.

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol Ryan always been a clown

[@brainoverbrawn3404]

They all partake in the Lamar slander, then turn around and pretend like they don't know what they did. Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe both said Lamar was not worth his contract with the Ravens, they've never said that about any other of these current QBs. Coming into the season, they said the Ravens would fall off because of a decimated O-line and multiple coaches lost, now they wouldn't mention any of those things that Lamar has overcome.

[@taebuford]

he is time will show lamar is a better qb right now though !

[@gregthegoatostertag8579]

Mf’ers need start realizing the game is easier when your team is stacked 😂 Jayden’s team sucks

[@dakotasunday8996]

I hate that people can’t just accept records being broken . Lamar jackson is the man .

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

Back to back MVP is insane. That’s why Lamar needs this MVP

[@risenconquer6903]

1 vote shy of 2x unanimous MVP. Thanks to FTNFantasy's Aaron Schatz. He actually said "He (Lamar) had a great season. He's a very good quarterback. I simply do not believe he was the best quarterback in the NFL this year, even though he led the best team." Now that the stats reveal Lamar to the best quarterback in the NFL this year (2024), I look forward to seeing Mr. Schatz's vote or maybe he'll simply find a different excuse to vote for Josh Allen.

[@miamimercenary9623]

he better win SB MVP too or he‘ll be crucified every single year til he wins. A three time MVP that’s never even been to the SB? yeah that noise will be real loud

[@stevejohnson7026]

​@@risenconquer6903By your logic Josh Allen should win this year. Josh has a better record.

[@Rizzler9017]

@@stevejohnson7026#1 seed

[@albertwilliams3713]

Lamar needs to win. Period.

[@discodrip3097]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="148">2:28</a> didn’t have to mention the jail time but go off

[@lightsout49]

Right that was diabolical fr fr

[@SociallyBrandedMedia]

No doubt, it was shade for sure, but it was a real factor in the pause in Vick's career. I've met #7 many times, and he will humbly admit that for better or worse, "it" was a major factor in what his career could have really been for real real 🤔

[@Odhran2017]

Josh Allen ain’t win 2 mvps and drop of Drastically in the playoffs she tryna make it a race argument In

[@GoBeantowm]

She said multiple unnecessary things

[@buckleft2317]

For sure you do. It’s part of his story. Doesn’t just say something negative. Shows growth and people can change

[@teddywestside6029]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="164">2:44</a> What did she mean when she said: Everything that “dogged” Mike Vick??

[@justacoolguy336]

Willie Lynch syndrome

[@Shiloh_Shepherd]

She meant he’s a terrible person

[@Ishmaelgaynor]

All the criticism he faced HIS WHOLE CAREER!

[@thegoodbrothersifu]

@@Shiloh_Shepherd LOL

[@InsaneTrickShots]

She brought up jail time and talked about dogged.. she dirty

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol we know Elle Duncan likes to take personal shots at athletes like all of espn employees

[@lestergarcia247]

🙏 she always does this; makes me wonder how many of them overlook her and she’s bitter?

[@JerZ_Grape17nOX]

I mean Malika Andrews might tell you to hold her beer 🍺

[@Avg_Vet]

Naw Elle is well know an respected in Atlanta for the work she did. She gets a pass when it comes to stuff like this. Don't put her in the Malika Andrew's category.

[@tigerhoods7927]

@@lestergarcia247 yeah she really is

[@tigerhoods7927]

@@JerZ_Grape17nOX lol they both are terrible

[@RatchetRab]

She just showed that no matter what you do and accomplish in life, people will bring up your past whether relevant or not.

[@Shot4ShotSports]

Elle Duncan think she slick with that “Dogged” comment 😂

[@latoyafoster4579]

😆🤣🤣🤣😆😆🤣🤣🤣

[@fulcrumsee5968]

She was throwing shade at Vick at every opportunity

[@reedahgong5]

I’m getting tired of everyone bringing up Mike Vick when they’re talking about Lamar man. Lamar is superior in every aspect. Mike Vick will always be an icon but Lamar is just on a different level.

[@fulcrumsee5968]

When Cam said he spent his whole weeks lunch money to get that poster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I did the same thing with Vick and LaDainian

[@latoyafoster4579]

🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆🤣🤣😆

[@CallmeLQ]

Lamar isn't underappreciated he's the most hated. The goal post always moves when people want to praise him. No matter who they compare him to. He will be applauded when he retires and be looked back on greatly, but even if he wins a Super Bowl the goal post will be moved to make the season look weak or make him seem inferior to another QB when he's been amazing most of his career. Social media has ruined a love for athletes without a drove of haters coming to bring them back down. It happens in all sports though, there's always one.

[@kingofthemountain_1]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="376">6:16</a> this shows how much different they value the quarterbacks. With Josh Allens roster, they never let the blame fall on solely him. Over Lamar's career, they have NEVER once blamed anyone on Lamar's roster except him

[@variedybills1727]

Lamar had a harder schedule by 10 fold , Lamar leads in every stat but rushing tds and record . Tucker makes his kicks and Lamar is 15-1 and josh isn’t even in the conversation . You guys want him to play defense on top of him being the most perfect passer in the league (sound crazy ? LOOK IT UP) . Lamar is held to a way higher standard than anybody else every year because of his athletic abilities people . Dude did everything yall said he couldn’t do the years prior . You do realize the guy who “struggled” with passing is now throwing better and more accurately than Patrick mahomes. This is voter fatigue, Jayden Daniel’s puts up these same stats and he is winning ROTY and MVP so why not Lamar?

[@teamus4249]

Please make them aware

[@jmar385]

I don’t know about more accurate than Mahomes.

[@variedybills1727]

@ if you read my comment you can see I said look it up . Lamar is the number 1 qb per QBR today . Patrick mahomes is 6th. He’s not even in this footage

[@variedybills1727]

Foot race *

[@jmar385]

@@variedybills1727 Dude Lamar isn’t more accurate than Mahomes. 😂😂. You’re going by analytics not by your eyes, even though the Ravens are my team. Lamar still makes dumb throws at times

[@jamesfranko6985]

Is the charges mention really necessary?!

[@meechie5797]

Like sheesh

[@Jrmy.93]

Shows a lack of journalistic skill

[@maxbfit]

I said the same thing. Subtle shade.

[@kevothegoat9891]

It is apart of Mike story man everyone knows

[@LifeGuardOnBooty]

Reading the room is clearly something not everyone is capable of doing smh

[@linettejones]

Lamar is making history we get to watch it live. He will be the best quarterback gets better every year

[@marckusduverger9776]

He really does get better every year, it’s crazy! I remember there was a saying “you can’t teach accuracy” but Lamar is showing that you clearly can, Jalen Hurts has shown that too. Lamar is an incredibly hard worker, his growth is just crazy. This is the best we’ve ever seen him, a 2xMVP which is crazy

[@stefslyfe]

Shout to stephen a smith for giving each of these incredible analysts to do their thing on his platform. Bro gets a lot of grief for a lot of things, but he’s given back in a lot of ways that go unrecognized. Big shout for an incredible show today. LOVE this crew together. Great job y’all❤❤❤❤❤

[@DevinWilliams-i3f]

They keep bringing up Joe Burrow like the Ravens Defense wasn’t worse through 11 weeks if Joe Burrow getting in the playoffs makes him an mvp candidate then Lamar should be unanimous with his defense and Tucker through 11 weeks

[@BRockin25]

Burrows career is significantly worse than Jalen Hurts but Hurts never gets mentioned

[@lennybeason1110]

Facts!

[@StudentOfLife365]

Exactly!!!

[@tayboog6837]

@@BRockin25right but we know why that’s the case it’s a race thing with this sport podcast owners they want the narrative to be white QB will always be better then the black QBs it’s obvious don’t no other black QB gets excuses when they defense fails them or the receivers fails them or the offense of line is trash look how they did Justin fields with the bears dude can throw but he didn’t have any time in the pocket but them blamed him for the losses they will miss all these guys when they retire watch just like LeBron James once he retire the NBA fans will be sad that he retired and we won’t see him play anymore

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

Burrow is mentioned because will increase the chances for Josh Allen getting elected

[@iReply2Dummies]

Just last year a mf said that man wasn't "quarterbacky" enough. And people still claim he can't throw. He's certainly hated on and unappreciated as a talent. Just because he won MVPs doesn't mean people don't blind themselves from his greatness all from how much they hated on him coming into the league

[@brainoverbrawn3404]

Stephen A and Shannon Sharpe even said Lamar wasn't worth his contract smh.

[@sprawlz6466]

He struggles with certain passes but he continues to improve. Also he’s not under appreciated in the slightest 😂 cut it out

[@iReply2Dummies]

@@sprawlz6466 you sound ridiculous if you sit here and say that people aren't blind to his talent and don't appreciate his greatness out of hate. Saying that he can't throw, he'll never win, and putting him outside of the top 5 QBs. That's under appreciation. If they appreciated his talents they'd be in awe of every game he plays instead of saying they don't care about the regular season when it comes to him LeBron is even unappreciated because most people have spent most their lives hating on that man just because he was compared to their favorite player. That is absolutely a thing. And if you can't understand that then that's a you problem

[@marckusduverger9776]

@iReply2Dummies: I agree that some hold onto their past narratives for Lamar because of how he looked when he started & his playoff woes. Lamar continues to grow every year though, his growth is insane. He can make every pass in the game right now I feel like, when he won his first MVP he had some struggles thowing the ball outside the numbers as he would often throw to the inside shoulder of his receivers & that’s how the Corners would pick the ball. He’s insanely good right now, where I’ll disagree with you though is that VERY few people have had Lamar outside of the top 5 & it’s probably been years since they have. The common consensus Top 4 is dang near agreed upon as Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, & Burrow. The main thing that changes is the order they put them in & 5 goes to whomever they want to give praise to.

[@sprawlz6466]

@@iReply2Dummies bro it’s a fact that he struggles with certain passes. Everyone has a flaw in their game. Lamar struggles with timing routes and deep outs/corner routes. He’s been much better at the timing throws this year though. And Lamar gets left out of the top 5 sometimes strictly because of his playoff performances. And honestly I value playoff performance over everything else too

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

She KNEW what she was doing….i don’t even gotta refer to what i mean, when u know…ya know

[@shelbywarburton5387]

Yeah I know too

[@NickHolasss]

smh

[@Godwin420]

She's one of the most undeserving _unts we've seen in a while. Nasty. Low character. Zero integrity. Basically those lips have been working overtime a variety of ways. =/

[@candilubk]

That's why she had to say it. Bc ppl act like it's wrong to bring up legit crimes rich ppl commit. Moving on isn't the same as erasing history

[@Shot4ShotSports]

Ryan Clark said it perfectly

[@yusiyola2011]

They say it’s ESPN policy to bring up the criminal record of every athlete whenever praise is due for something completely unrelated.

[@ChefLibraWarrior-k5b]

I'm a ravens and I appreciate RC saying that! Much respect

[@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC]

GREAT show people!! ALWAYS love hearing about the Michael Vick experience... If you weren't there, then you don't know Have a blessed New Year everybody! GO RAVEN'S FLOCK! 👿🤜🏿💪🏿✊🏿🙏🏿

[@lifevybes9459]

one of the best segments ive seen on espn in a long time. I literally listened start to finish, fully engaged.

[@dredagr848]

Cam is a really really great sports analyst‼️

[@jordanmonday8398]

Cam finally getting the credit he deserves. Always thought nfl did him dirty

[@tjones2991]

Imagine prime vick with an Andy Reid his whole career

[@princenas1412]

2 rings off the bat easy

[@MarvinLane0221]

Look at life with intense realism. Stop imagining.

[@DD-rk6kn]

vick played with anyd reid. vick was still somewhat in his prime at that point stop it. andy reid operates better with pocket qbs like mahomes and burrow. he not the rpo specialist

[@MikkiChavez]

​@@princenas1412 you don't know that. Vick isn't clutch or a great processor with coverage. Ppl be overdoing it bout Vick lol that was my guy but y'all just don't remember

[@jaydenpope6245]

@@DD-rk6knPatrick is not a pocket passer 😭and is ten times more athletic than Joey b

[@baltimoregetup9537]

I need espn to have these 4 together more often, they keep it real weather you like it or not I like that rather then just agree with the narratives

[@HoopsKevinski.]

*MVP really a team award.* RC upset "They gave Kobe's MVP to Nash" (for leading in 1 stat) but Wade beat Kobe & LeBron in 4 of 5 stats! (They gave it to LJ, Kobe 2nd) *But on a bad team... that Wade still kept at 5th in East.*

[@Himothy704]

Lamar is the best QB we have ever seen. He is the best footballer we have ever seen.

[@ezekwu]

facts...

[@sheltonamaram646]

Laughable take 😂

[@miamimercenary9623]

what drugs are you on?

[@stevejohnson7026]

Best quarterback to never even play in a Super Bowl, maybe. In the playoffs with the game on the line, are you taking Lamar over Patrick? Are you taking him over Josh. To just say Lamar is the GOAT is ridiculous. So I guess Lamar is better than Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Manning, Brees, etc. I find your comments to be a great example of your generation of fans.

[@Godwin420]

LOL! He is the most brittle bish at that position we have ever seen. He is the best weak mental QB in every single postseason until the day comes he learns to not be. Hurt or suck? Every time. Earned until he learns to not suck in the playoffs.

[@jamesrobinson-007]

RC went off his insights are spot on!

[@aricwilliams6492]

Cam getting his flowers is amazing

[@stevenQ45]

That "Friday" reference in Unison though.! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Avg_Vet]

Thank you. Finally people who actually watch football and just don't jump on the media narrative.

[@camilliondavis4160]

"Everything that dogged mike vick" 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Godwin420]

Disgusting people like you are way that wench is barely clinging on to her undeserved job. When shockvalue people of no character are rewarded by similar-brained fans like you... get some integrity.

[@acm0045]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="162">2:42</a> Everything that dogged Mike Vick? Pun intended? I understand the saying, but I've never heard that saying verbatim before. So I say Suspect. Also, observe Can Newton's pause before he realizes it has nothing to do with dogs. Once he realizes, he relaxes and was ready to continue the convo.

[@rodrichforever5000]

I wish somebody Called that out

[@ppploans]

Tasteless

[@nebulousbastrd]

😭😭

[@oaktree1626]

Definitely intended.

[@ginjarh9070]

😂😂

[@discodrip3097]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="272">4:32</a> Ryan said no Stephen A no suit.

[@uncleclark]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 this funny

[@caroljakobi3522]

I just want to say; LAMAR JACKSON is a GREAT QUARTER BACK, I LOVE watching him, and his SPIRIT NEVER LETS ME DOWN!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU LAMAR; LET'S GO RAVENS, LET'S DO THIS WIN,WIN,WIN

[@davejnz7485]

RC is, by miles, the best NFL analyst out there

[@Josh-y7g]

See how ESPN lies, closest person to him is Josh Allen😂😂 graphic literally just showed Russel Wilson 4th on that list with over 5 Thousand rushing yards yards

[@DarrylReese715]

Thank you!

[@ScorpioKing81]

I was just thinking this. Like where she get that from & Allen ain’t even shown on the list they posted.

[@Josh-y7g]

@@ScorpioKing81 crazy that’s exactly why everyone has to watch the games their selves and do their own research or you will be lied to right to your face!

[@ScorpioKing81]

@ exactly. They didn’t even mention Russell Wilson @ all. Disrespecting the man like that.

[@keithperrin7299]

Ryan Clark killed it when he was explaining the evolution of the mobile qb cam felt that

[@taffytuck1910]

Vick in madden mobile was crazy work

[@smallhouseproduction2205]

You a g

[@risenconquer6903]

I have a growing respect for Cam Newton and Ryan Clark is a Beast. Great segment!!! #voterfatigue

[@hodgedamanager71]

Perfect statement from RC!!

[@tajmoultrie3045]

They said Cam couldn't pass the ball coming out of college. First four games of his NFL career he passed for over 400 yards. One of those games against the patriots and Tom Brady. 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@nserekoraymond8593]

Ryan Clark is so wise. Nice analysis 👍

[@alexanderthegreat5649]

Even before Cam spoke I thought "And Vick didn't have designed runs like Lamar! I can only imagine if he did where those stats would be." Then Cam says exactly that

[@Peace-wl9pt]

Why would you say that about Vick back ground smh it's sad what we do to each other

[@LifeAndBallInBmore]

🎯🎯🎯

[@Shiloh_Shepherd]

Because he’s an awful person

[@LetsBeReal-tr7wt]

Its ESPN policy

[@sidneyhill7834]

​@@Shiloh_Shepherdwhat about your ancestors and this nation to blacks

[@tayboog6837]

@@Shiloh_Shepherd lol we can tell what type of guy you is from your comment and your profile picture get a life !

[@wfdbackdraft7762]

Great assessments!!!

[@PLANETQXCIM]

No matter what an player accomplishes it’s back to championships

[@treneshaclark4643]

The bottom line of playing is to make money and win championships.

[@Chadwick_Reason_Frazier]

its a rollercoaster really LJ is 1-4 in his career against Maholmes. Josh Allen is 1-3 in his career against LJ. Joe Burrow is 1-6 in his career against LJ. Mahomes is 1-2 in his career against Burrow, Mahomes is 1-4 against Allen, and Allen is 0-1 in his career against Burrow. (All Regular Season). What does that show... That Mahomes can't beat Allen or Burrow in the regular season, that LJ can't beat Mahomes, and Allen and Burrow can't beat LJ.

[@deionjones24]

Elle terrible choice of words 😂

[@latoyafoster4579]

🤣🤣😆😆😆

[@tasiwilsonmusic]

Remember they designed run plays for Lamar Jackson and Vick strictly from the pocket scrambling

[@174mars]

RC snapped with that speech

[@klasports8801]

i’m glad elle duncan acknowledged how the media blames lamar more but gives allen more of a pass or the unfair criticism

[@hoggiedavis5733]

Ryan Clark right on the head!!

[@underground.dreamkingz]

I loved these four together! 💯💯🍿

[@DavidRaymer-yx1tx]

They surly don’t like Allen. Lamar is expected to win superbowl because he’s been MVP twice and that’s what’s expected of MVPs.

[@DaKiDDKAYC]

Yall were down talking that man way before the MVPs, yall were just forced to move the goalpost.

[@DavidRaymer-yx1tx]

Lamar is considered 2nd best quarterback in NFL. That’s why goalpost moved. Arron Rodgers was great but people criticize him because he only one 1 Super Bowl. If Josh is a dud in playoffs criticism will come.

[@DaKiDDKAYC]

@@DavidRaymer-yx1tx Okay I hear you

[@ryeyoungin155]

Russell being up there is impressive 😂😂

[@stevejohnson7026]

In 6 playoff games, Lamar is 2-4 with 6 tds and 12 turnovers. My guy is 15-3 in the playoffs. These are actual facts and can not be ignored. Playoffs are where all time greats shine. Aaron Rodgers has 4 MVPS but only won 1 SB. His playoff record is 11-10. The playoffs are the test of greatness. The numbers I stated are undeniable. I have never seen a fan base who cares so much about regular season awards.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

The problem with your argument is performance in the playoffs is irrelevant to the MVP, it's based SOLELY on the regular season..

[@Divatherapeutics]

This is the best factual discuss by a panel ...love thia group

[@Zarkmoneybags]

Michael vick as coach: I need players that got that dog in them Players: 😳😧😳

[@knasiere]

Fantastic group, fantastic clip !!!

[@lestergarcia247]

I feel like Stephen A allowed Monica on his show to further defeat her; he was right he covered the wnba long before CC hit the scene and Monica lied and is racist

[@GradyBrown-i3m]

Love ❤️ this first take crew

[@Datboijerm10]

Mv3 coming for lamar

[@davidosunbunmi]

LOVE THIS CREW!!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@shankdiddy9045]

When Brian Bilick said "who in the history of the NFL looks like Cam Newton has won a Super Bowl?"..... saying that is a prime example of gaslighting. As if Jim Crow wasn't in existence for half of the life of the NFL... as if the Hall of Fame wouldn't have been field with players that look like Lamar Jackson if given a chance. As if the record books wouldn't have been filled with players that look like Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson isn't as new as we want to suggest from the stand point of opportunity. (i get Lamar is historically unique skill set i get it)... I am talking about the constant narrative that in a word is >> racist. NFL fans and decision makers mostly don't look like Lamar. And for years the idea was you had to look a certain way. This is why i firmly believe that Carson Beck was viewed as a number 1 over all pick in the draft process early because he fit the "image:" of what a QB looks like. Dave Gettelmen Giants GM and former Panther GM once said upon drafting Daniel Jones > "that is what a NFL QB should look like". ... at the highest levels of football many firmly believe this. For years every draft cycle you hear the anonymous scouts with digs and African American QBs ... EVERY YEAR!!!... or some critic about their cognitive ability. Always some dig related to some perceived flaw between their ears ... Yet the NFL rookie of the year award that has been in the game since 1957 has been given to QB's 11 times.... 6 of them African American QB's in the last 17 years alone. And it is about to be 7 this year...... with the top 3 QB's projected in next years draft African American.... I did a study on this and African American QB's pan out at astronomical rates compared too their counter parts. So while Lamar may or may not win it all. The more chances players that look like him get the more records will fall and the more that will change. While some will push back against it because human beings are so tribal in their thinking. I just keep thinking if Lamar Jackson was a red head with frickles named Mitch McNielson he would be all over every bill board and this MVP race talk would be over.... especially if Mitch McNielson had 4k yards passing near or over 1k rushing 40 plus TD passes and 4 int and 1st or 2nd all time passer rating for a season. I just keep thinking about how lamar who is 27 years old. Is on a normal career path. Stuck locked out of the playoffs by a All time great in Patrick Mahomes.. Like Peyton Manning who didn't even WIN a single playoff game until year 6.. or how Micheal Jordan was stuck getting bounced out of the playoffs by the Celtics then the Pistons BEFORE he went on his run. This just looks like normal progression in sports. Patrick Mahomes is the progression unicorn. What he has done early in his career isn't normal... it isn't what normally happens.... EVERY great QB of this era is stuck trying to solve the same issue The difference is how ppl view them and thru what lenses.

[@Godwin420]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Save us all the time and mental anguish next time and keep this drivel to yourself.

[@MrDaedae01]

Ryan Clark Preaching. Very well said.

[@Oceanz08]

Saying Lamar and Vick are on the same level is laughable.

[@bigshadowfocus7888]

Lamar is better and he don’t fight dogs

[@MrXBurneracct]

Vick said himself Lamar better than him 😂 Are you gonna argue w Vick on that?

[@sidneyhill7834]

​@@bigshadowfocus7888how many skeletons in your closet

[@sprawlz6466]

Lamar is way better lol. Vick was such a unique and fun player to watch that people forget how mediocre he actually was

[@ssbashalot7324]

Lamar is playing in a league where he has the advantages to do what he does. lol this isn’t comparable at all

[@patd2331]

I love the Friday lineup 🔥🔥

[@DJATLphilly]

Everything that dogged Michael Vick Is insane wording 😭😭

[@latoyafoster4579]

😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidhamilton2708]

Ryan Clark was spot on ….. great analysis

[@breadwinnerprime]

Monica back 💪🏾😤‼️

[@b.waynepresents2992]

I thought SAS cancelled her lol

[@discodrip3097]

He sent her to some kinda off brand reporting. He told Kim the other day “last time you disagreed with me you were in the cold on the sidelines.” The Stephen A documentary gonna be crazy.

[@Highevolutionary-c2h]

Boooo

[@troyg2458]

@@b.waynepresents2992 He NEVER cancelled her. That was just you guys and the internet reading something that wasn`t there. As usual.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

I was just thinking! I'm glad she and SAS worked things out and sis didn't lose her job! 😂

[@avagantamos3]

Great take RC

[@Danny-v7t]

Take that lady off the show or limit her having an opinion tbh why she bringing in past charges and uses poor choice of words.

[@tigerhoods7927]

She’s a clown who like to take personal attacks at athletes

[@whizdaum4757]

Facts

[@charleshouston3931]

I thinks she’s just brought them up is because Vick would’ve had a lot more yards if not for the time he missed

[@Lebron612]

brod mentioning mike vick's jail time and dog fighting was str8 foul

[@justacoolguy336]

I get what cam is saying but Vick played in an era with slower d lineman. Today's era have players and systems to stop running qbs I don't think Vick would have done as well with all that against him in todays game

[@tyarchie5143]

Cam is saying the game was more physical. You can barely touch a qb. I'm sure if you watched Vick. But no one on the field was faster.

[@9Gorgeous]

Freeney ran a 4.3-4.4…..Abraham a 4.5 you are tweaking DLINE were just as fast

[@justacoolguy336]

@9Gorgeous again silly lil boy it was only a few. Now about 7 out 10 lineman are in that 4.4 range back then only 2 out 20 lineman had that speed.

[@justacoolguy336]

@9Gorgeous u real deal slow if u think the game isn't faster now lol. Wrs are faster qbs lbs linemen and db's everybody is faster now than it was in early 2000s that's just common sense if u arguing that u can't be helped young slime

[@liquidswords2636]

@@justacoolguy336players are definitely faster in today’s game due to certain enhancements, engineering in health and vitality, better performance related vitamins and supplements. So much has drastically changed in the science of nutrition that helps current athletes go wild today.

[@DripNasty-gk8mw]

Cam hit the nail on the head... So many designed runs now than Mike ever had in his Era

[@metroboomin3509]

First Take family/exec. It is imparitive that you have Stephen OR Cam on first take at all times. You are putting women that learned football 3 years ago to debate football. Cmon bro.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

Bro these women are professionals. So what you're really saying is not only are they incompetent but the men who hired them are fools. Please bro. Ain't nobody just giving away the kind of money these women make being on tv 😂

[@metroboomin3509]

@ its a DEI hire u robot

[@Unodaonee]

i like this crew! great blend!

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

Lamar has been over-appreciated if anything considering he's never won anything other than an MVP. Why does it always feel like theyre trying to make a case for Lamar because he's Black at the same time that there are highly successful Black QB's winning in the NFL right now. It's a strange disconnect.

[@RMMomma4Eva]

"Other than" the MVP? 😬😅 And you must be another one that doesn't pay any attention to the actual stats? 😂

[@JamesKennedy-t9h]

@RMMomma4Eva You cant put stats in a trophy case.

[@teebedaguy6435]

Outside of Patrick Mahomes, none of the QBs compared to Lamar have achieved anything. What’s your point?

[@DoubleTHebrew]

I love an all black cast that’s power 💪🏾🔥

[@sean24833]

Dogged Michael Vick? you ain't slick women we heard that sneak diss

[@miketyler677]

She can't talk. She got a dui charge in Atlanta