Understanding Afro-Puerto Rican and Other Afro-Latin@ Culture

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Understanding Afro-Puerto Rican and Other Afro-Latin@ Cultures
Presenters: Miriam Jiménez Román and Juan Flores
October 26, 2011
Book Title: The Afro-Latin@ Reader History and Culture in the United States

[@alexandersilva5446]

I went through the same experiences in the 60s and 70s...I read all the same literature and continue to live this life in the south. I learn more about myself and still yearn for more knowledge of my culture. I have developed a great appreciation for Carribean cultures and peoples. I would love to teach on the subject after having completed studies at Queens College on Puerto Rican Area studies years ago. I am a teacher (EdS on Curriculum development and Instruction).

[@slytheron]

As an African, I find it very funny that people are discriminating each other based on skin color especially because Africans come in all these shades and hair types! Africans are very diverse and people are ignorant of this.

[@aileenlofgren1407]

***** I agree.

[@josecaraballo6326]

ONO Home the majory of the people talking about race are black americans

[@josecaraballo6326]

No one is discriminating, this a puertorrican subject and don't understand why you here

[@myrnamelendez70]

Some one forgot "utsis and tutsis" That genocide has to be forgiven and have a new beginning.

[@yepdodamath]

I sat down and listened to a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. It really is amazing that life was birthed by a black woman who gave birth to 4 children. One went north to Siberia, One went far East, one went far West, and one went south and black was mixed into all the races( or black began all the races). It is really remarkable and is deeper than this. I just am recalling what I remember from a conversation back in 1990... we are all black

[@abrahamisaacmuciusiii691]

One of the most famous Afro Latinos in the U.S. was Sammy Davis Jr. his Mother Elvera Sanchez was born in New York City, New York, U.S.A the daughter of Luisa Valentina Aguiar and Marco Sanchez. Luisa Valentina Aguiar was born in Manhattan, New York, U.S.A the daughter of Enrique Aguiar an Afro Latino from Cuba, The Spanish Caribbean and Ida Henderson an American woman born in Connecticut who was of mixed African American and Native American Indian descent. Elvera's Father Marco Sanchez was born in Cuba and he was of full blooded European Colonial Spanish ancestry.

[@radrook7584]

Well, I always heard that Sammy Davis Junior was part Puerto Rican. The only time I doubted it was when he started going around saying that Puerto Ricans were just black people who spoke English with an accent. You see, no true Puerto Rican would ever make such an idiotic statement because a true Puwerto Rican would know that it is a blatant lie.

[@TH-bh7tx]

I really enjoyed listening this meeting. Some really good information and history being told.

[@radrook7584]

How can it be good information when it deprives Afro Latinos of their blackness by calling them brown?

[@CXOmorusCXO]

I have afrolatino family and I proud about that

[@myrnamelendez70]

I'm not afrolatino. I'm puerto rican black.

[@myrnamelendez70]

My heritage as black is not my color. Is the musical rithm in plenna,guaganco, bomba, salsa that is embeden in my DNA.

[@niggamad3316]

@@myrnamelendez70 afro Latino basically means a black person born in a Latin or South American country or can speak Spanish or has family from there so what was ur point..

[@ask4theupgrade359]

nigga mad - Her point is simply that she has identified as a Puerto Rican Black for most of her life, so she’s not gonna once again start RE-labeling herself from Puerto Rican To Hispanic To Latino To now AFRO-LATINO. In my experience most African Americans, I know still refer to themselves as BLACK and NOT African American. This might just be generational.

[@Realofficialdee]

Myrna Melendez *for short, you’re just boricuaa lmao.*

[@MariaMagdalenaNievesGonzalez]

Someone on this commentary thread is Not telling the truth. There is racism on the island as well. The lighter skin folk thinks he is superior to the darker skin folk........tell the truth. The truth is we are mixed and majority are very proud!

[@octaviodelaserna2007]

It’s not racism when your proud of your skin color whether it’s light or dark! Get over the paranoia! Just behave and everything will be ok!

[@kiriforever1]

The name of the book is The Afro-Latin@ Reader: History and Culture in the United States. Edited by MIriam Jiménez Roman & Juan Flores.

[@davidharmon2058]

What were the names of all the books mention in this video? I would love to look up and read some of them.

[@thedarkknight4956]

I got love for all my afro-Latinos & Latinas.

[@wilsoncortes1562]

I got love for everyone no matter what

[@radrook7584]

I don't. There are Afro Latinos who are anti social and these I avoid like the Bubonic Plague just as I avoid Afro American Anti Socials and Anglo American Anti Socials and East Asian Anti Socials. Personality is far more important than just a mere membership in some racial classification. Martin Luther King clearly pointed that out but it still doesn't seem to sink in.

[@alegarceau12]

Yes, racial classification in the U.S. is strange to say the least. You have U.S people who are dark saying they're white, and you have these same people classifying a hispanic as person of color even if that person is totally white. Hispanics are like the skittles, all colors! from black, to completely indigenous, to part indigenous (mestizo), to white (European ancestry, or creoles, the descendants from the European settlers throughout all the centuries of history in Latin America) and the race is pretty obvious! in Latin America, if you look white, you're white! and if you're dark, even if you say you don't have indigenous ancestry, you're still dark to us! and a white person, even if that person says she has 1%indigenous blood, she still is white to us because her race is white, although her ethnicity may not. For example, Northern Mexico is post-colony, and southern Mexico is pre-colony, Most northern Mexicans are creoles, most southern Mexicans are indigenous mainly, or cholos, which is when they have a little bit of Spanish blood, but look like they mainly have indigenous blood. We have all the races in Latin America, from white, to indigenous [the native peoples of the countries] to black, to mestizo, to Asians, to Arabic blood.

[@julian65886]

The view on racial issues of Nuyoricans is the view they learned from Black Americans. In the USA white means 100% Northern European and if there is one drop of black blood they are not white anymore. In PR white means someone that does not have African hair and more less has Euro facial features. That is why 80% of PR folks mark themselves as white in the census. This is white puertorican style which is foreign to Nuyoricans.

[@Shadowbannddiscourse]

the reason they consider themselves white is because of the power structure and the whole colonist mentality . at one point they tried to wipe any black out by encouraging the mixing and im sure black people are looked at as ugly over there. the thing is there are still obvious things you cant get rid of lol hair lips and bone structures. its like "white is right" which is utter rubbish . how evil. the thing . you cant get rid of something once its in the mix.also some would argue that "white" genes are recessive regardless of the "one drop " theory . theres a whole reason they consider themselves white. who would want to be the underdog of society. im glad many black amercans woke up in that regard. and they started being proud of the hair they had and the skin as well . and the bone structure after years of self hate. which im sure some still go through.

[@julian65886]

Orlando Greenhill You are applying American standards to Puerto Ricans on the island. Many people in PR with black ancestry have never considered or analyzed their genetic heritage. For many race is not an issue. Not thinking about race at all is the ultimate liberation from racial prejudice and the sensation of feeling inadequate. Many are simply Puerto Rican and quite different from Nuyoricans who seem obsessed with race.

[@mramirez5194]

Orlando Greenhill Thanks for speaking the truth about Puerto Rico. I lived there for a few years and you speak the truth.

[@Shadowbannddiscourse]

thnx yo

[@itsmob4life]

Stop the lies Julio.

[@redax1]

Thank you. Muchas Bendiciones a todos.

[@chuckycarbone945]

the gentleman that is speaking in this video I'm A Flores to maybe you are a distant cousin of mine I've been searching to find out my relatives that I never got to meet and I'm glad that you guys are clearing it up because I have met African Americans that don't think that I have black descended blood in me and they keep on calling me a white girl that's why I'm watching your videos so I can educate my sisters and brothers of my culture to let them know that I am the same just like them

[@watusis1960]

What is the name of the books you keep referring to?

[@andreyamcbride4309]

What is the name of her book? I'd like to read it.

[@vrivera123]

Did anyone ever read "Down These Mean Streets," by Piri Thomas? That's a book on the Afro Puerto Rican experience in the 1960's.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Finally, Mexico and Ecuador are two continental countries that had high densities of Native Americans during pre-Columbian times; as expected, the individuals from these two countries show the highest degree of Native American ancestry.

[@humptydumpty5921]

And again as the young lady. Asked..."what is so wrong with being black?"...these comments are so ridiculous...no one gets to pick their race, culture or skin color., it is chosen for us by our creator.

[@sammyavel]

I am happy about this topic because Puerto Ricans need to be educated about our African roots. We cannot deny part of our blackness.

[@josecaraballo6326]

Sammy Collazo You think we dont know our history and you do right. Fuck you self you ignorant nigga

[@myrnamelendez70]

Do we need more education than plena or bomba? I just look at my mom and grandma and nobody has to tell me how "prieto" I'm.

[@wilsoncortes1562]

We o ready know about African roots

[@sammyavel]

@@wilsoncortes1562 Thank you bro. You are absolutely right!

[@sammyavel]

@@josecaraballo6326 Thank you for your comment. I knew about our history a long time ago. But is sad to see some Boricuas denying their blackness and being so ignorant! But I do thank you for your comment. 🙏🏿

[@juniorjimenez6381]

This a great video!!!$

[@ManturoQ]

Book being discussed: The Afro-Latin@ Reader: History and Culture in the United States (2010)

[@Moralmediachannel]

What is this book called? I really loved this conversation bc I too always felt I had to choose. Often never saying im Afro puerto rican only saying im Black or mixed Puerto Rican. Kudos to the speakers. My father sent me this and I know he really enjoyed this as well.

[@Mattdelamusiq]

I'AM Ummu chat with you plus reviews ....are you mixed or are you afropuerto Rican .... people get confused lol

[@Moralmediachannel]

@@Mattdelamusiq my mother is African American my father is Puerto Rican. My mother's side are a bunch of mullatos... n.y father is one himself. Though he is all puerto rican all my dads side is Spanish puert rican. So I have always said Inwas mixed but listening to this made me know im the epitome of an afro hispanic. Im 58 percent African from different parts Mali Nigeria and other parts some middle eastern 1 percent north african. 40 percent eoropean compromising parts of Iberia penisula including peru other parts of the european comes from my mom and thats Irish wales france and great brittain. The native american is native puerto rican blood native mexican blood native columbian chile blood. Only 8 percent.of Native it could be less could be more... but I read those with native blood most likely has more of the percentage since there isn't alot of pure native dna. So yea I think bc of the clear african american my mother and the puerto rican dad would make me an Afro puerto rican. What would you call me?

[@Mattdelamusiq]

I'AM Ummu chat with you plus reviews firstly, I have to say you personally have the right to identify with whatever you want! But for an example I don’t think a person who is half white Puertorican and half black American can identify with someone who is half afropuertorican or full afropuertorican because it’s a difference! Like a biracial girl born in London to an african father and a white American mother in my opinion can’t say she is an african American... she is biracial and bicultural

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

We also found extensive variation in European, Native American and African ancestry among individuals within each population. A clear example could be observed in the Mexican sample, in which ancestry proportions ranged from predominantly Native American to predominantly European (with generally low levels of African ancestry). Similar results were found in Colombians and Ecuadorians, whereas Dominicans and Puerto Ricans showed the greatest variation in the African ancestry

[@mirquellasantos2716]

All Latin countries if you look white you are white. When my niece visited Mexico, Peru, Argentina, Ecuador and even Brazil, she was white and when she told them that she was multi-racial with (white, black, brown & yellow), they refused to believe it. They told her you are so white and beautiful. You look like a goddess. They argue with her. At the end she accepted being white just to avoid the arguments.

[@radaprince]

***** mestizo, usually is associated in my experience with being Latin with a darker skin tone meaning you are recognized as having African decent because of your skin-tone. Hope that helped clear a little up for you, I'm sure there's more but that's the basis.

[@radaprince]

Mirquella Santos​ I am a Black/Latin raised in the states and never really knew the distinction of the word mestizo until now, that's why I said "in my experience" actually it wasn't until recent years that I've become acquainted with this term so thank you for clarifying before Mack any further.

[@radaprince]

Mirquella Santos I'm Puerto Rican and W.Indie (Bahamas) mixed with Irish and have indigenous blood (from what I'm told Blackfoot & Cherokee outside of the Tiano & or Arrowac bloodline already in me)

[@mirquellasantos2716]

radaprince: I knew it. Some of my relatives are Puerto Ricans.

[@radaprince]

Mirquella Santos ooh yea? Cool! that's a good thing to know

[@brittanyf7461]

So what is the title of this book??

[@Moralmediachannel]

That's what I want to know myself. You would think it would be continued to be spoken about.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Using STRUCTURE analysis of the autosomes (Fig. 3, Upper) and the X chromosome (Fig. 3, Lower), we found that, again, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans showed the greatest proportion of African ancestry whereas Colombians, Ecuadorians, and Mexicans showed extensive variation in European and Native American ancestry among individuals.

[@ORGANICsoulJAZZ]

nice documentary

[@chargerboii17]

I just recently found out I’m Afro- Mexican.. no wonder why everyone thought I was Puerto Rican lol

[@josecaraballo6326]

Dont see how????mex and ricans look completely the opposite.!!!!

[@glorytojesuschrist7105]

@@josecaraballo6326 I'm a Mexican looking Puerto Rican. (Mexican Roots) Race is a complicated thing. These labels only fuel racism. If you keep reminding someone of their race that IS a form of racism. How are you going to respect a label if you have to be arbitrarily categorized. The moon steals a little shine from the sun and no one ever gets the two confused.

[@neverendingjourneystilllea5271]

Thanks

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Another study,[32] one focusing on the general population in five Latin American nations - Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Mexico, and Puerto Rico, - estimated that about half (50.1%) of Mexican ancestry was of Amerindian origin; 44.3%, European; and 5.6%, African. Compared to the other Latin American countries, Mexico was found to have the smallest amount of African admixture. Mexico has the second largest amount of Amerindian ancestry, topped by Ecuador.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

We found that individual average ancestries are in agreement with FRAPPE and STRUCTURE results in which Ecuadorians have the highest Native American proportions, followed by Colombians (showing greater European contribution), and with Puerto Ricans and Dominicans showing the highest African ancestry-specially Dominicans, who show very low contribution from Native Americans

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

In contrast, Colombia has wider geographic differences ranging from Caribbean coasts to Andean valleys and mountains, which could explain the enrichment of African ancestry in some individuals and not in others, likely representing the differences in origin within Colombia.

[@radrook7584]

The predominant mix in Latin America was between European and Native American and not between European and West Africans. Latin American statistics prove this since Mestizos outnumber all other groups and blacks are usually a very small minority in all of these Latin American countries. .

[@achamitemiller8805]

who is us?

[@BertLonney]

The Latin culture if you don't know is the Roman culture. Roman Italy is where the Latin language and culture come from.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

How am I being Afro centrist when I put the majority over 51% around 60% of the Puerto Rican people did not have African ancestry? Also DNA wise Native Indigenous Taino ancestry is usually a quarter or 25% is found in Puerto Ricans. It is not a high amount.

[@king_rj1833]

Is Afro-puertorican meaning Puerto Rican and black?

[@solyfied]

Afro puerto rican or just puerto rican included being black...

[@the_jujuman5269]

It means you’re a Puerto Rican with mostly West African Descent

[@josecaraballo6326]

@@solyfied Pay no attetion to estupid questions, he is obviously a troller starting shit

[@TrillBill]

It always have been..but its up to us to counter it

[@terelleharrison9833]

and jamaica,Trinidad,Cuba,Belize,Argentina,Colombia etc

[@TrillBill]

Preach

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Haiti would be per capita 1rst on the list if I included all Latin American countries since they are around 95% meaning 9 out of 10 people have African ancestry. However like I said I was focusing on Hispanic countries.

[@sabounji]

Plus, all the ones who know how the businesses function is by the fact they mix the drug money with the revenue to sustain them from bankrupcy. It is that way on how they create the "Tax" money. Many are not stupid about such issues on how businesses are being sustained. As it is well known many many countries are TAX free. While the big majority in the States pay high taxes. No wonder why !!!.

[@JudithSanchez-ht6jn]

How they do not speak the Spaniards civilization and contribution to Latin America. The one who share their culture education, the one who shows us education, contribution to our culture build hospitals one of them who were in my hometown, the house that I was raised in Puerto Rico was build in 1840 and today is a landmark. My ancestors were Spaniards and one of grandfather was from Corsican and he was not the only one. Spain encouraged the immigration of Europeans to the island among Irish, Scottish, Frances, Corsica, Germany . I knew people who are decendants of Germany.Jewis Sephardic from Spain. Who does now that is not from Puerto Rico and need to do their home work.

[@javie2]

This video is Not about Obama or African-Americans, it's about Latinos so please don't troll this forum.

[@jose5776381]

all Puerto Ricans are African taino and spainish desent that's are race are culture is Puerto Rican a combination of the three a lot of people think there Spanish but to say that is to deny the taino and African blood witch contributed a lot of beauty to our culture America doesn't know what to make of us cause there so cut and dry when it comes to race ur white or ur black that's bullshit to me culture is deeper than skin color

[@rhibac]

no they are all not..just cause someone say they arent of african descent does not take away the cultural aspect of PR.... CULTURE AND RACE ARE DIFFERENT

[@jose5776381]

I know race and culture are different what I'm saying is that Puerto Ricans have taino African and Spanish blood the mixer of the three make our culture

[@jose5776381]

All Puerto Ricans have African blood no matter how lite or dark we are we should embrace all three I do

[@rhibac]

i disagree there are PRs who are not of african origin that is a fact

[@jose5776381]

All Puerto Ricans have African blood and Spanish and taino that's whats taught in there schools these mixes are more than color u can be lite skined and have all three

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

This is also what I found. significant population differences exist, with the Dominicans and Puerto Ricans showing the highest levels of African ancestry (41.8% and 23.6% African, SDs 16% and 12%) , whereas Mexicans and Ecuadorians show the lowest levels of African ancestry (5.6% and 7.3% African, SDs 2% and 5%) and the highest Native American ancestries (50.1% and 38.8% Native American, SDs 13% and 10%).

[@ninahndz5880]

Correction for Puerto Rico 16.7% of the Average Puerto Rican is african descendant

[@char08fal]

@@ninahndz5880 I think she said significant population differences exist. But there are quite a few youtubers who have closer to the 23% she said than 16.7% African ancestry. I've seen a lot that were about 40-50 or so percent European and the remaining 50-60% is split between West-Central African, Amerindian and North African/Middle Eastern'/Jewish

[@marcuscarrasquillo1909]

I'm AfroRican and Proud .

[@swainbrandon21]

I found it funny how words keep getting misconstrued the guy with that hat saying " either the African indian or the latino indian" that sentence doesn't make sense. African is someone who is from Africa, indian is what we call native americans, but that term is incorrect, latino is something nobody can really define.

[@emilioquintana5506]

Thera people like me that wi mix .my grandma was afro latina n my other india my granfather was white with india

[@sandraroberts7406]

BLACK AND BROWN ARE THE COLOR OF CRAYONS?

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

I have looked in to this issue extensively and Mexico Afro Mexican population is around 1.2% and Afro Mexican Americans according to the U.S census is about 0.9%. They are mirror images of themselves. Looking into DNA as well it also confirms this. continued

[@antoniog6900]

Not all ppl in puerto rico are black,white,taino, mix there are onthers here to like lebanese,asians,arabs, n not all are mixed with all three some are one of each most ppl look european or arab or mixed my familys from italy

[@josecaraballo6326]

italo Jahad If you do not have this 3 different dnas in a certain order then you are not puertorrican.

[@TheFabianFaria]

Are you saying that all Puerto Ricans have African in them are black as you put it?

[@TheFabianFaria]

Ali Polaris that’s a big lie.

[@TheFabianFaria]

Everything that you’re saying is a bullshit lie and everything that this video saying is a bullshit lie. Bullshit propaganda take a DNA test.

[@NoName-zi9st]

Most of them. The ones who aren't mixed are descendants of the racist Spanish slavers, probably families like yours. They made sure they didn't mix (even though they did mix through rapes) and then they spit out racist beings like you.

[@sabounji]

Yes, it is them "Euro-management" that are the guests on top of the melanated continents from Afrika,both Americas, Caribbean and Asia. It is not the melanated majority who are the guests on top of the land. Maybe, they forgot there ancestors; many are ready to remind them of there original continent.

[@sabounji]

Even the mixed are considered part of the melanated black.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

This is a comment section where people get to voice there views and opinions. If you don't like it to bad. I was just stating facts.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

However the Taino ancestry is higher in Puerto Ricans compared to Dominicans which virtually have none. Maybe this is why Dominicans are so interested in marrying Puerto Ricans. Usually as a whole Puerto Ricans have more White and Native ancestry that the Dominicans are interested in for potential partners.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Jamaica isn't a Hispanic country it is an anglophone country. Trinidad I did not have much information on so I did not comment on it. Cuba would come in 2nd behind Dominican Republic with people with African ancestry. It would be around 6 out of 10 Cubans have African ancestry. Out of the Caribbean Hispanic countries it is 2nd. Argentina is the lowest out of all countries with less than a half of a percent. It is one of the whitest countries in Latin America. I already talked about Colombia.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

I was focusing on Hispanic countries not on all Latin American or Caribbean countries. Brazil has the largest Afro population outside of Africa. Colombia has the largest Afro population outside of Africa for a Hispanic country however it is only about 25% of of the country's total population. Meaning a quarter or less of its population has African ancestry. Dominican Republic per capita has the highest rate of people with African ancestry. 84% Meaning 8 out 10 people have African ancestry

[@MADNEWYORKER914]

I see there aren't that many people in attendance!!! It's not surprising.

[@kiriforever1]

If you are trying to make a point, you failed miserably.

[@MADNEWYORKER914]

@@kiriforever1 You bird, it was an observation!!!

[@paulfranco3239]

💛💙💛

[@BigJohnCharlie]

Black and White does exist though so anything that is different always allows people to differentiate from others and people who look the same will always feel more comfortable around people who they look like. Birds of the same feather flock together.

[@sabounji]

Now, many many many many of this young will be producing biger famillies as they are waking up on how they are trying by various means to reduce the population.

[@BronzeSista]

who cares what they think about us, many of us enjoy the wealth they wish they had.

[@lonewolf5973]

I can see where Rachel dolezal got her look👿

[@lonewolf5973]

@Willi Collins yeah let me build my time machine👻

[@AbsoluteMdot]

Puerto Rican men with dark skin yes!! forget the light skinned ones

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Look I lived in Europe for a few years and they consider him black there to. Stop making stuff up the don't view him as a Hamite. Also President Obama married and African American woman and I believe he considers himself a member of the AA community.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Also Gen Vicente Guerrero was not full black just like President Obama is not full black. Vicente Guerrero was part Amerindian and part Hispanic. President Obama is part White but he identifies as black. Also President Lincoln freed the slaves but he wasn't the one who fought in the wars to free the slaves. There were many White men who fought against slavery and injustices. It is sad that many people give one man credit for the freeing of slaves when it took many men to free them.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

google. this study source Genome-wide patterns of population structure and admixture among Hispanic/Latino populations

[@Moralmediachannel]

I gave my dna to that study

[@MADNEWYORKER914]

I remember this Dominican female had posted a comment on KZbin saying that the name "Afro-Latino" was made up by African-Americans because we are ashamed of our history, our features, and we are obsessed with Hispanics, so we as African-Americans are trying to force Hispanics to be black or identify as black. And she wasn't the only one who made such an ignorant and false statement. That was a common statement posted by numerous Hispanics!!! Just like the woman said in this video, African-Americans have our own problems, so why would we give a group of people a name that has a different culture??? I have a lot of respect for Afro-Latinos who embraces their African ancestry, but I have serious problem with those others, not because they don't want to respect and acknowledge that bloodline, but because I noticed how they usually act towards black people, especially African-Americans!!! I remember this one Puerto Rican male from the BX had said with pride that, "if any of you Puerto Ricans have strong PR grandparents like mine then you know not to bring any cucolos home". SMDH

[@josecaraballo6326]

MADNEW YORKER Man. Than person writing the coments about black americans were very accurate. That is the way that puertorricans, cubans, and dominicans feel about black americans and only black americans. In other words she didnt lie to you

[@escarlincanarioperez3534]

MADNEW YORKER AFRO LATIN = SHITTTT LATINOS JUST WE RE LATINOS JAJAJAJA

[@escarlincanarioperez3534]

MADNEW YORKER CAUSE WE RE NOT FUCK AFRICAN WE RE NOT AFROCENTRIC WE RE LATINOS WITH LATINOS MIIND

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

The reason why Mexican don't have much African ancestry is because there were less enslaved Africans take to Mexico compared to other countries like the Caribbean and South America. Example Caribbean accounts for about 40% of all enslaved Africans and Brazil accounts for about 38%. That is 78%. That leaves only 22% left. Colombia, got about 7% Venezuela about 3% Peru about 3% Mexico about 2%

[@YUCAYEQUE]

Gabriel thank you for clearing up some things I may have misunderstood... I'm just so sick of these You Tube videos that talk about PR being racists and that we have to embrace African culture. Wtf is that? I take pride in my criollo roots. I embrace all that the island is. Not one more than another.

[@glorytojesuschrist7105]

Wepaaaa!

[@swainbrandon21]

I don't care what you agree with. I'm speaking facts. White people are albino black people, with ice features (slender nose ect.). Like I said, there is no such thing as race, that is a fact. Race has only existed for 100 or so years, it comes from Darwinism. People started classifying people differently, but we aren't like many species. We are 99.99% genetically the same. While other species are more different genetically. So we are the same. Regardless of how we appear, we share genes

[@wilsoncortes1562]

We in Puerto Rico we o ready know about black history I hope b.l.m dont bring the racist to Puerto Rico we dont have the problem they got united state is like they favorite word is racist we all the Same in Puerto Rico please dont bring that to Puerto Rico

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

Mexicans were the first people to free blacks on this continent. 2nd Mexicans also participated in the civil rights movement so we don't owe blacks one thing. google - Civil Rights Mexican Americans Who Made A DifferenceOther Photo Galleries pbs org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/photo-gallery/class/

[@MADNEWYORKER914]

Gabriel DelaRosa I know this was an old discussion, and you may not remember it, but who said that you Mexicans owe blacks anything??? Blacks even fought along side Mexicans in the French and Mexican war, and we never asked for compensation. We know about the hatred that goes on in Mexico towards black people. For the longest time, Afro-Mexicans were not allowed to identify as such until recently. You had my attention and respect until you made that ignorant statement. And just for the record there was a very very small number of Hispanics involved in the civil rights movement!!! I never heard of any other than " Brown Pride and the Young Lords".

[@Tamara-hn2fp]

Im American Puerto Rican of three races White Spaniard, African Nigerian, Taino Indian...I love Who I am ...I am three the beautiful me...but my favorite of them all is being part of the Human Race..My people love to hide who they are from fear of acceptance, the lies are Tainos dont exist🤔well Columbus did not come with women on ships so we really still here...lies your not black...umm yup That why my grandpa darker than raisins lol

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

This was not just Loiza and I am not an Afro centrist. This was for the whole island meaning about 4 out of 10 Puerto Ricans have African ancestry. This is unbiased look at people. It also means that 6 out of 10 Puerto Ricans do not. I didn't say all Puerto Ricans had African ancestry. Comparing it to Dominican Republic and Cuba other Caribbean Hispanic countries it is actually the lowest of the 3.

[@mariano2078]

I can tell what I am by the look in the mirror so wtf?

[@kiriforever1]

Mariano : Obviously your head is as empty as the room.

[@gabrieldelarosa5415]

We found that Dominicans and Puerto Ricans in our study showed the highest levels of African ancestry, consistent with historical records. European settlers to island nations in the Caribbean basin largely displaced Native American populations by the early to mid 16th century and concurrently imported large African slave populations for large-scale colonial agricultural production (largely of sugar).

[@ninahndz5880]

Dominicans much more

[@isiahmatthews]

Puerto Rican people are people that are black and some were mixed with Spain and some of the lightest skin have the mine of the white racist people towards the blacker skin Puerto Rican especially when they come to America they forget where they came from it just seems to me that wherever that white skin is it always wants to divide and conquer black people need to be one it doesn't matter if you are dark skin or lighter skin black you need to be one people in order to fight racism because if you don't stand up together as one people white people will always use you to fight against one another and he will always be on top we need to fight the white man with truth and not with skin color something that he created to divide and conquer and the reason why some of us is light skin is because some of our ancestors was rape by the white man and that's nothing to be proud about the only way my brothers and sisters that we can destroy lies is with truth

[@Maru-dc9ej]

Blacks.in..the..Usa..and..Blacks..onther...parts...of..the..world...the...are..same....Marvin..Jones..from..Philly

[@markcooper7405]

although Jamaica is not a Hispanic country it still has one of the highest concentration of African ancestry because the majority is black

[@lonewolf5973]

I bet the room had a nice acoustic echo they must have loved listening to themselves talk 👿

[@kiriforever1]

*lone wolf* : A Troll-There is always one in a crowd

[@preachaberkley8170]

European is not a spanish word we are called Creole we have Dominican blood! the Caribbean means Creolean.

[@radrook7584]

I don't understand what is the big mystery that Anglo and Afro Americans think that they detect in Afro Latino culture. It is a culture derived from the West African regions from which the slaves were taken. In short, they come from the same region that most African American ancestors came from. So why should their culture be viewed as some kind of problematic cultural anomaly that needs to be meticulously investigated in order to be properly understood?

[@elcoqui6673]

Ignorance breeds ignorance!!!

[@YUCAYEQUE]

I can say the PR population is higher as far as what you are stating.

[@TrillBill]

There is only one race..the human race.

[@synthmusic]

Yes, Haiti is a Latin American country

[@bobbye.wright4424]

No its afrikan

[@the_jujuman5269]

There’s no Latin America without Africa or Native Americans.... we’re a mix you just have to accept it... the Spanish and Portuguese mixed everything up so to say that people who were brought on ships and worked for hours and hours in inhumane conditions and were raped and beaten even when they did right by their “masters “ are a downgrade? Their strength to persevere through the cruelties of slavery is what gives many Latinos not all but many the strength they have to this day .... 10 million slaves didn’t just disappear into Latin America neither did the millions of native Americans.... nor the Spanish and Portuguese colonizers.... although the circumstances were awful... denying that Latin Culture isn’t a mixture is to spit in the face of the American Indians that were bound and chained forced to convert to a religion they knew nothing about or be killed or to be ridden with diseases from a far away land ...to spit in the face of Africans that were sold from their lands to never see their homeland again and to be raped , beaten and killed abused and them and their descendants to be put at the bottom of societal totem for generations to come ... if you deliberately spit in the face of these people then you truly aren’t proud of Authentic Latino Culture and you should find another one

[@josecaraballo6326]

CARIBBEAN PEOPLE DOING JUST FINE WTH OUT YOU

[@the_jujuman5269]

Jose Caraballo Im half Dominican so I’m half Caribbean but what you said has nothing to do with what I said

[@josecaraballo6326]

@@the_jujuman5269 i dont believed you, you are Haitian aren't you?????

[@josecaraballo6326]

@@the_jujuman5269 i am gonna give you this one, I probably posted the wrong message to the wrong person. i am not apologizing and everything else stays the same.

[@the_jujuman5269]

Jose Caraballo hiciste un error .... prefieres que yo hablo en español o yo puedo hablar contigo en portugués también porque soy brasileño también mano... mi papá es del Santo Domingo este una parte de Santo Domingo entonces si no me crees ... es tu problema mano

[@javie2]

I'm glad people voice their views... But you're just trolling the forum with made up stories coming out of your delusional mind... If you don't like FACTS, you don't need to make up nonsense... Get out of the bubble and join real life...

[@YUCAYEQUE]

Dominicans actually have a higher Taino ancestry then they get credit for especially in the Cibao regions. I think the Dominican studies have some fallacy.

[@sexyrose93]

Many immigrants look down on African Americans.

[@rhibac]

All prs are not of african descent...Yes the island has african influence in the culture but individually no

[@itsmob4life]

So what are they?

[@joshotero6127]

Recent dna test show that most puerto ricans have african dna.

[@Jonmad17]

@@joshotero6127 47%, not most.

[@joshotero6127]

@@Jonmad17 your numbers are off. And according to my 23 and me and ancestry. Of the 15,000 relatives I have. All have some african admixture. From 5% to 40%.

[@Jonmad17]

@@joshotero6127 So according to the study I was quoting it only counted people who were more than 9% African. The term used was "substantial African ancestry." Keep in mind that Puerto Rico has been practicing assortative mating based on race for centuries, so your closest relatives are going to look more like you than anything else. Like most of my relatives on 23andme are between 0-10% African, which can't possibly be representative given that the overall average on the island is 21% African.

[@javie2]

Another of your made up words??? There is not such term in Latin America... Everyone in Latin America are called Latinos because they all share the same mix of Native, European, African etc... Sorry to burst your bubble...

[@lonewolf5973]

these people love talking to an empty room👿

[@kiriforever1]

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[@hopelovelle]

All Afro Latinos, be proud of who you are. You are the Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who was scattered to the four corners of the earth. The other ten tribes are south of Ethiopas river. Your family are the african americans, afro mexicans afro etc. YAH cursed us but the curse us almost up. Read Deuteronomy 28:15-68 KJV.

[@josecaraballo6326]

hopelovelle No they are not. We are natives mixed, not the othet way around

[@joshmatinez9363]

who cares about american history lmaoo lol

[@lonewolf5973]

from fake woke Origins👿

[@Da_Fonz]

I'd like to thank blacks for their contributions. If it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have such city decay, and easy way to get welfare! So thank you very much!!

[@naelogalaxy23torres82]

Are you hispanic? Puerto Rican? Because you can thank blacks for the civil rights movement which allowed for rights of Puerto Rican people as well... before that we were also treated as blacks were ...we were called dirty Puerto Ricans... look into the history

[@chuckie102883]

+Blacktheslave blacks did not create salsa, the music is a FUSION, there's a difference.

[@naelogalaxy23torres82]

+UniquelyMade you can thank the base for Salsa being the African roots everything else was added on. The african rythms were the base the other elements were added in order to make it more "commercial". You cannot take the blackness out of Puerto Rican culture we would not be Puerto Rican without that element. Africanisms even in how a puertorican speaks, food, music, etc

[@chuckie102883]

+Naelogalaxy23 Torres "you can thank the base for being Africa roots everything else was added" is that not the same shit as "fusion"???? And the melodies were not added to be commercial, they were infused because culturally boricuas are MIXED people therefore the influences like the Spanish guitar will show itself naturally! I swear some if you KZbin scholars crack me up always trying to school people. And where in my comment did I say I was trying to take out blackness from Puerto Rican culture!?? You jumped to that conclusion based on your own projections or passed experiences with other people. Don't assume to know my position or opinion, it's better to simply ask! I'm fully aware and PROUD of my Puerto Rican music and ALL that it encompasses culturally which makes its sounds, rhythms and melodies beauty to my ears!

[@naelogalaxy23torres82]

***** All I'm saying is since you said, blacks did not create salsa", was just clearing up the fact that without the African origin which was the beginning of salsa you can't have the end product. I've read the history, and yes I am used to people Puerto Rican brothers taking elements out of the culture becaus the african in there in their eyes is shameful so they deny it. Maybe I misinterpreted your point in a sense. But I do not see how salsa could be what it is without it's origin. Without it all you have is guitars playing and orchestra without a rythm (kinda boring if you ask me). And the guiro which was taino origin.