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@rewtnode8 ай бұрын
This is really cool stuff, even though I may have had slightly different expectations - and one big question is open: What happens between the cochlear signal generation and the partially observable (fMRI) activity in the auditory cortex? Or more to the point: What happened to all the processing between cochlear signals going to the auditory nerve which goes to the cochlear nuclei in the medulla, and so forth until finally we get to the celebrated auditory cortex? Apparently, in this work, emulating the whole shebang you're trying to use big deep networks, which perform well, but seem to have very little structure in common with the the actual biological auditory pathway. Essentially, in this work everything between the cochlea and the auditory cortex is modeled as a big black box, making little use of what is known about the neural anatomy. Shouldn't these nice DNN's be made a little more constrained by at least trying to representing the known pathways from the cochlea and the auditory cortex? (Perhaps you're doing that but didn't mention it, and so I suppose I'll have to read all these papers first before I make a fuss ;-)
@stephanverbeeck4 жыл бұрын
The spectograms shown here are extraordinary primitive. Using a 120 "Gauss windows of 33msec" per second gives a 10x better accuracy that what is demonstrated here.