Very scientific, very professional. No showing off with useless guitar riffs, and everything is straight to the point. I love videos like this when I'm searching for information. Most people mean well, but are frustrating to watch. The guys/gals that made this video are pros--not just at guitars, but at making videos. Thanks, you guys.
@sweetwater7 жыл бұрын
MostlyTorso Thank you for watching and for the kind words!
@ToddtheExploder6 жыл бұрын
MostlyTorso I agree. Mitch G. is seriously knowledgeable. Read his book, In Search of Tone.
@kingjangad4 жыл бұрын
agree..101%
@adamhicks244 жыл бұрын
That's SweetWater for you !
@allboutthemojo4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetwater hi guys. Where should you put your volume pedal if you want to use it to make dynamic changes from say high gain to clean but you don't want to do it abruptly by hitting in chanel switch or clicking the distortion on/ off. Sort of like Adam Jones does it as just one example. He uses it to go from gain to clean and back without that sudden switch. Also to be able to use it for volume swells because controlling that with the guitar knob is not easy. Thanks
@pieterbc5 жыл бұрын
Note to self: Wah, compressor, gains, volume, modulations, time based stuff. 👍🏻
@jacobl65724 жыл бұрын
Exactly what works for me, with a buffer just after the wah.
@rzk_audio4 жыл бұрын
I'll wire my board in the reverse of this one day just to see what happens...
@relevantinformation66554 жыл бұрын
Yep, but who can possibly resist moving them around and constantly noodling with them :)
@rzk_audio4 жыл бұрын
@@relevantinformation6655 That's part of the fun!
@stevehunt27054 жыл бұрын
Idonttex.s0rry
@runlarryrun776 жыл бұрын
Love this. "There's no wrong way to do this". That's the best way to approach pedalboards. A few people have seen pics of mine & been pretty pissy about my set up. I realised pretty quickly what they were effectively saying was "That's not set up like mine. You should set it up like mine". It works for me so it stays as it is until I want or need to change something.
@KX5Kat6 жыл бұрын
True, it really depends on what your demands are, but for studio use, you're probably going to go with a pretty conventional setup.
@marchebert98136 жыл бұрын
If it sounds right it is right. That's really the main rule.
@Nightdog19784 жыл бұрын
Excellent info indeed. I'm a 67 year old professional musician and it's always good to look at how you do it and how somebody else does. No absolute right or wrong way! I also really appreciate the guitar player just showing us the sounds and not doing a happy dance all over the neck for us to show us what he can do. High praise to Sweetwater for this very informative video without any ego going on here! Thank You!
@ernestbuckley86713 жыл бұрын
Mitch is amazing. Time & time again he teaches me something in a clear, no fuss matter. Don is also excellent. I saved this and will watch it several times as I build my first board. Thanks guys.
@relevantinformation66554 жыл бұрын
I love rediscovering pedals I bought in the 70’s , 80’s and 90’s that have been off the board and in storage, & dropping them back in- “hey, that’s why I bought that, must have been in my Robin Trower phase “ :)
@N00dleBandit4 жыл бұрын
Never heard the phrase "extra harmonic content" before, but I'm gonna start using it for everything I use now.
@LarryMar5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if people really appreciate the awesome reviews and advice Sweetwater gives?? I sure do, and they could easily do much less, but they don't and won't!!!
@patrickcarroll17547 жыл бұрын
Both Mitch and Don are great. Thanks for being awesome, guys.
@paulopris-sirca51207 жыл бұрын
This types of videos for beginner/intermediate guitar players are great super helpful! Thanks Sweetwater!
@smatlanta15 жыл бұрын
This was the best and clearest treatment of this topic that I've ever seen. Thanks!
@marsmediapro6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Sweet Water's videos! This video is one your best! It really shows pretty much most of the parameters. Thanks, guys!
@maxduvall90555 жыл бұрын
what I liked about this is you didn't talk forever but you explained what happened, you played the type of music you might hear with the proper effects, and you you didn't randomly play some pedals with the others, you did the ones that match so that you can hear the effect in its clearest form. very well done, very informative, thank you guys.
@garthosborn84003 жыл бұрын
This is excellent. I took notes! I love how Don and Mitch do their demo videos. No excessive noodling - like Sgt. Joe Friday used to say..."Just the facts." This is just one of Sweetwater videos I have found to be clear and helpful. I'm a 65-year-old dude putting together my first serious pedalboard. I'll be referring to this and my notes often.
@TAkahashiryu3 жыл бұрын
One of the best, most useful, straight to the point and helpful videos I’ve ever seen. A lot of information, well placed and well explained. You guys are amazing professors!
@josephmccutcheon90372 жыл бұрын
I love sweetwaters info videos. Legendary and simple to understand.
@cpamiseso5 жыл бұрын
So, before or after is a consideration what you're trying to "effect" after all. To get this right, you need to understand the nature of your pedals so you can experiment effectively (what you had in mind = what it turns out). For example, that vol pedal before = guitar knob like, yet putting it after = master volume; and vol pedal is basically opens up or limiting the amount of signal coming in to the input of a device (amp, pedals, you name it). This video is really giving me that conclusion I can't get by watching other videos. Thanks Mitch, Don, and the video crews!
@waynepalumbo89173 жыл бұрын
I like that they are giving us an A/B and letting us hear what it sounds like, with a technical description of what happens to the sound vs saying "this is bad and sounds bad, this is good and sounds good". They give us a fairly objective description which is cool.
@electraazteca60023 жыл бұрын
Very well done very well spoken love the dialogue you guys did the job it helped a lot thank you very much Sweetwater
@ariesvictorygroup5 жыл бұрын
Very well done. If only everone who reviews pedals would use this format. Awesome job guys and Sweetwater ! !!
@sweetwater5 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@alansturgess13246 жыл бұрын
Wow - so much info here I needed to watch it several times to get things into my head. Really excellent. I always find that Don's demos of guitars and FX are spot on and have often helped me make decisions about what or what not to buy or check out. Top man.
@chuckkirkpatrick67126 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best produced, well presented You Tube videos I have ever seen....and extremely informative and enlightening to one who has pondered the proper pedal order for years. Thank you gentlemen both!!
@stevefiorito5379 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I suppose that you could say that the more pedals you have, the more you have to think about pedal order. When I played for a living, I kept my pedal array very simple: Wah, Phase, Distortion & Echo. I could get just about any sound I wanted with those 4 effects. What I didn't have back in the 70s and 80s was an amplifier with effects loops. My working amp today has that, and that adds to the options. Your demo video really makes it obvious what position the pedals should be in ... at least to my ears.
@nazmoking31716 жыл бұрын
This was a really good and educational video - much appreciated! I'm going to need to listen to it a couple more times to get the full understanding of what was happening. I wish there were more videos on this topic and I'd like to see more from you guys going into a little more detail if you're up to it.
@Elem406 жыл бұрын
Let me do the math for You: There are 40320 possibilitys to place 8 pedals on a board.
@thekingfish62966 жыл бұрын
8!
@putinpuppet20636 жыл бұрын
I have 9 pedals.
@thekingfish62966 жыл бұрын
362,880 possible combinations, or 9 factorial.
@PilferMusic6 жыл бұрын
the math is pretty simple
@foghornnosehorn83836 жыл бұрын
Dammit man I'm a guitarist not a mathematician!
@lar57jsy5 жыл бұрын
Good demo job as usual. I rely on you guy for reviews and demos. You do some of the best ones!
@karlficarotta5 жыл бұрын
Feels like I'm listening to sports commentary! So much knowledge from you both! Great video!
@lukacapeta2226 жыл бұрын
Putting the wah after distortion and delay makes great effects too. Nice video!
@Astronomater7 жыл бұрын
miku pedal always goes last in the chain.
@777Yoni7 жыл бұрын
Obviously...and first...and in the middle. Stacked Mikus are the next logical step. Thanks for the excellent video.
@npthedarkside276 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by chain? You only need one pedal if you have a Miku.
@Clodnesia6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Palmer not if you’re stacking multiple miku’s🤤
@michaelmiller79096 жыл бұрын
@Bill Primo the Joke Your head
@Shadowrunner3406 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmiller7909 But of course, for those of us who DIDN'T know beforehand what a Miku pedal was, Bill's comment was the only one with any usefulness.
@lynyrddeville6 жыл бұрын
That may be a very simple pedalboard, but make no mistake, it is also a very excellent pedalboard. Those pedals are pretty choice! a few industry standards, a couple boutique pedals here and there, and a value choice wildcard (EXH wah), and voila! A pedalboard for all occasions! Well done fellas! Very informative too.
@ShawnShipstad Жыл бұрын
Great video. Much to be learned. This is only scratching the surface.
@TheTruth707773 жыл бұрын
This very basic and very complete. Spectacular.
@JonathanSayles4 жыл бұрын
Really informative. Haven't seen anyone else demonstrate pedals so well before.
@austinbrown48254 жыл бұрын
This is a very professional, easy to follow tutorial on pedal board setup. Recently purchased a Boss GT-100 and want to start building custom patches on it; this video helped take a lot of the guess work out of things. Thank you!
@david135-65 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration and explanation of some of the more perplexing challenges of placement
@성현욱-r6f4 жыл бұрын
Very educational video! There's many informations about the basics of guitar effecting.
@MadmanDKDK2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an updated version of this subject, with the introduction of what to put where if you also use the effect loop of the amplifier.
@EarthToSean2 жыл бұрын
Great, straight-forward and informative video. Bookmarked this one to reference later!
@martinafan646 жыл бұрын
Great video! Because of this video, now I know that the horrible sounds coming out of my amp have very little to do with my lack of talent and playing ability, and is most likely caused by incorrect pedal order! My rock star dreams can still come true if I just reconfigure my pedal board correctly! Seriously though, I think I'm gonna have to experiment with pedal order to try to get the best resulting tone. I configured my pedal board (about 10 pedals) based on what I read on the internet and based on the opinions of several "experts" at music stores. I was never fully satisfied with how everything sounded, so I'm going to switch the order of several pedals to see if I can come up with something better.
@marsmediapro6 жыл бұрын
Great response! What order did you place your pedals in? I had to stop playing guitar for a minute (5 years), and have just recently begun playing every day. I dug out my pedal board, and noticed that a few were missing (In the "pedal hospital")- and now repaired, but I failed to leave a note where those pedals resided, plus, I just added the EHX Slammi, so, please share what you wound up with, ok? Thanks!
@martinafan646 жыл бұрын
I also had a long period of time (1989 - 2015) when I didn't play guitar (marriage & 3 kids will do that), and I couldn't afford pedals when I was younger. So when I started playing again in 2016, the world of effects pedals was very new to me. Even though I think my pedal board could still use some tweaking, I think I've got it sounding pretty decent now. Here's my setup: Guitar-->BOSS Noise Suppressor NS2-->VOX Wah-->BOSS Super Overdrive SD1-->BOSS Distortion DS1--> BOSS Mega Distortion MD2-->front of Marshall tube amp head (the 4 BOSS pedals are in the Send/Return loop of the Noise Suppressor since I've been told that 'noisy' pedals belong in this loop) FX Loop Send-->BOSS EQ GE7-->BOSS Super Chorus CH1-->BOSS Digital Delay DS3-->FX Loop Return I'll eventually remove the Mega Distortion pedal because I just don't like how it sounds, as well as the Wah pedal which I never use anymore. I'll also add a few more pedals to the FX loop such as BOSS Reverb & BOSS Harmonist Pitch Shifter. Will also add a Compression Sustainer, but can't remember if it goes in front of the amp or in the FX loop.
@runlarryrun776 жыл бұрын
Tip - try dropping a few of those Boss pedals & dropping in a few direct bypass units. Boss are great don't get me wrong, on & off I've used them & other buffered bypass pedals that are very similar for ages. Like yourself I recently got back into playing after years of not touching a guitar. I built a pedal rig entirely of Boss pedals or faithful clones of them & it sounded good. However in the last few months I took some of them out & dropped some true bypass units in where they were & the improvement in tone was incredible.
@eltigre89786 жыл бұрын
Probably the best video yet on pedal order I've seen. Great job guys.
@chipsterb49463 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better presentations on pedal order I’ve found so far. BUT That’s not a pedal board. There’s no fuzz. I was surprised but really liked the phaser before the overdrive.
@76booge3 жыл бұрын
About to build my first pedal board, this was super helpful. 👌
@drewa19992 жыл бұрын
Excellent and clear(well, distorted too but..) info! Thanks SW bros!
@thatonetechyguy Жыл бұрын
This is such a solid video.
@TheZiZaZo4 жыл бұрын
This was a great presentation/explanation
@FernandezCycles6 жыл бұрын
Even their voices sound perfect. Very cool video guys! Cheers!
@jaychen2000metal5 жыл бұрын
Compressors help flubby high gain amps too. Just used a Keeley yesterday and i had to put it on layaway
@BrooksysBassCorner3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video, really helpful. Thanks guys, great work! Nice one!
@XxStonedImmaculatexX4 жыл бұрын
This is what I have: - Whammy 5 - 535q Wah - EHX overlord distortion - Small Clone chorus - Neewer noise suppressor, which is the same as a compressor no? - DOD Tec4x multieffects - boss acoustic AD2 preamp - polytuner - boss eq GE7 How would I organize these? Also, I plan on running the distortion pedal and eq direct to the amp and use the effects loop for everything else.
@N00dleBandit4 жыл бұрын
EQ into drive pedals into input on amp. Fx Loop: Start: tuner into wah into compressor into noise suppressor into acoustic preamp into whammy 5 into chorus into multieffects unit. Note: compressor and noise suppressors can do similar things, but are not the same effect.
@1badsteed4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I had a Johnson Millennium JM250 modeling amp. Setting up the effects it would ask what order to put them in. I had no idea it had any different effect on the sound. I'd therefore like to apologize for the horrid tones I used to play due to lack of knowledge of the proper signal path!
@clemcadiddlehopper57063 жыл бұрын
Those Yamaha Revstars are AAAAmazing!
@zeljkocar5181 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot.. This helped a lot with my dilemmas..
@Zeal8083 жыл бұрын
Took me years to figure out move my distortion pedal after my wah. I was getting a boosted wah sound and couldn’t figure why it was so loud when I engaged it haha. So you get a more balanced volume when moving through the wah frequencies
@jayjayripoff3 жыл бұрын
On little thing for people to try, see what you think, but I put fuzz and distortion before my wah, then the lighter stuff after.... I found the wah has a much stronger effect, and seemingly bigger sweep, sitting after the heavier gain stages. :-) Enjoy (courtesy of a That Pedal Show episode, ;-) )
@Gman440443 жыл бұрын
what about octave pedals? Where do they come in ?
@RagdollOC6 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo.
@oddsock87486 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, straightforward and made a lot of sense. Thanks a lot guys.
@welivebyvideo2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME VIDEO. LOOKING FOR THAT ULTIMATE SUSTAIN
@yonisapir62703 күн бұрын
Super helpful, thank you.
@Liteg02 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, there are (8! = 40.320) different possible routing options on that pedal board. So yeah, you've got some options there! If you include bypass you've got (1! + 2! + 3! + 4! + 5! + 6! + 7! + 8! = 46.233) different sounds you can produce before you start tinkering with the knobs.
@spartan83906 жыл бұрын
I used this as my guide, amazing results!
@jennyurshagen19876 жыл бұрын
Nice job. i think this guy Daniel has a product that makes life easier!!
@dt_793 жыл бұрын
So if you have the space, you could actually use two volume pedals, one in middle, one at end, for difference purposes? Very interesting. Thanks for the straightforward, quick explanation, guys!
@RajibDeyMusic4 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful to understand the pedal order.
@andreguitarist4 жыл бұрын
You guys are professors! Awesome video and awesome instruction!
@snaggletooth70315 жыл бұрын
Where should i put the noise gate last.?
@MrMetz21124 жыл бұрын
Man, I have a lot to learn! I just picked up a line 6 M5 and a OCD full tone as my first pedals from Sweetwater. I guess I will just play around with it and see how they sound.
@ricklewis58045 жыл бұрын
I’m building my first pedalboard and have a stupid question. Most of my pedals have 4 round rubber “feet” on the bottom to prevent sliding. It looks like they must be removed in order for the Velcro to fit correctly to the bottom of the pedal. I hate to remove them unless it’s necessary.
@NathanHassall5 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand will this work if my delay pedal is red?
@scottcolt42834 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying a red delay pedal, but I understand they are faster and this concerns me. How do you deal with this?
@ricksanchezito89724 жыл бұрын
Sweetwater is the best!
@truthfulrobot92956 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video, very useful info. Thnx
@Tone-Oz3 жыл бұрын
great vid thanks for your expertise.
@Roysito6 жыл бұрын
Awake video! Thank you for the excellent work
@demofactory6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guys!!! I've learned a lot from your instructional videos.
@amphitheatre7 жыл бұрын
another good pedal vid from SW! i'm hoping you demo the new superego+ soon. pedal order is important but i find the "traditional" way works best. dirt > VOL > mod > time/space fx is how i have mine setup.
@SaranjitDosanjh4 жыл бұрын
Spot on guys, very useful even for an old bugger.
@growlandroll3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, thank you!
@eddykidd2 жыл бұрын
I am running an LPD Nice Drive into a Crybaby into a Flanger into a Phaser. If I get a compressor, can anyone tell me where is should go? I had my wah first in line but then I switched it to second in the line after the drive pedal. Seems warmer. Never owned a compressor so not sure how to line it up. Thanks guys great video.
@stulora31726 жыл бұрын
Great video, and kudos that you hold back on commenting on what is "supposed" to sound better. On my board as well as in your video, I like the wha to come after the distortion and the modulation (chorus, mostly) before. Luckily, tastes are different :)
@shanbags766 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys. Thanks for the ideas.
@SjaakShirly65596 жыл бұрын
I agree with Mostly Torso. Very useful information!
@kimhansen63846 жыл бұрын
Super video, changed some of my ´fixed´ opinions. Thank you!
@jeremyvoss95584 жыл бұрын
These two are absolutely brilliant, very clear explanations!
@orryfishburne53264 жыл бұрын
I have no clue if i like wah before gain or vise versa. Ive always used wah after gain for more of a filter sweep type of thing but hearing it before makes me start to rethink things a little bit. I know this is overkill but i think i might put both my wahs on my board for a little bit and see what order i like better
@buzzcrushtrendkill6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Highly informative. Thanks.
@arikoenig45366 жыл бұрын
Great vid but if Mitch talked any faster he'd fall into a black hole...
@MB-wu9uq3 жыл бұрын
Do i put my boosters before or after my distortion?
@jamwayofaiken-augustarockb76433 жыл бұрын
Once again, the consumate proffessionals give us the goods. Wisdom truly does yell in the streets available to all.
@saucyg63715 жыл бұрын
I’m forsure getting a tuner and wah, what else should I get? And what power supply?
@SeanTDel6 жыл бұрын
Really helpful. Very professional. Based on your setup, where would a Electro Harmonix Triangle Big Muff be placed? Asking because the Triangle Big Muff dramatically increases the amp volume without touching guitar volume, which then requires an increase in volume adjustment on a guitar when the Muff is turned off.
@sweetwater6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Sean. The placement really depends on what you're wanting out of the pedal. The volume on the pedal can be set to be at unity with your amp so the volume is level. If you have other overdrive pedals, you can run it before those so that when they're on, they control the level of the Big Muff. I like to run my Big Muff pedal at the end of my drives because if it is on, I want it to get louder. Best thing to do is experiment and see what works for your needs. Thanks for your interest! Charlie Davis, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1320
@jamiecockayne28927 жыл бұрын
So professional and helpful!! Ive just started looking into pedal boards and this gave me the exact idea on what i need to do. Thankyou
@VintageFlowers4 жыл бұрын
So why should you put delay before reverb? Watched the whole video in hopes for an answer. Can anyone explain?
@sweetwater4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question, Yusuke. Hope you're safe and well. There's no right or wrong way to route delay and reverb, only differing results in sound character and especially when you bypass them. Though both effects are time based, when reverb is last, the diffusion of the reflections results in a more ambient tail than the distinct repeats of a delay (even with a higher feedback setting). Some players prefer delay at the end because it's more "controllable". If the delay or reverb have "spillover" then the trails of the repeats fade while the dry signal continues with no interaction with the bypassed effect. Please contact me direct for more details than we have space for here. Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
@VintageFlowers4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetwater Thank you very much for the detailed answer, that explains it :)
@kengur34032 жыл бұрын
Simple question: How to change between effects fast? I have clean and distortion. I wish to have a (pedal) where with one click i can change between the two. Not having to turn off clean pedal and turn on distortion and vice versa.
@sweetwater2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Kengur! Thanks for your message, hope you're well and safe. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SwissThings--earthquaker-devices-swiss-things-pedalboard-reconciler This pedal allows you to have two switchable effects chains. All the pedals in each can stay activated. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
@richrico15 жыл бұрын
Just a note: I have often heard/been told that, if possible, All distortion/gain pedals should always go directly into the front of the amp. And all modulation, time based, delays etc. should be run through the amp's effects send/return loop... This is how I run my rig and I am very happy utilizing this set-up.... Also remember, your order of pedal placement is always a personal preference... There really isn't any right or wrong here.
@joshgreen45212 жыл бұрын
Another note: the effects loop is only relevant to use if you are using gain from your amplifier.
@orlandoramirez13452 жыл бұрын
Is it bad to have the cable from the amp start trailing to the volume pedal and then the rest of my pedals?
@scottsigler7 жыл бұрын
Great video, very helpful.
@jeremydahm21244 жыл бұрын
you guys are great. Wait, are you suggesting a wah is mandatory on a pedal board?
@bigbossdeleon6 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make a video about powering up your pedals if the pedals have different voltage and current draw?
@saberman123413 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm..... Love you guys. I always thought you need a buffer in the beginning and a buffer at the end with everything else in the middle. Unless you have all pedals with True Bypass. What is up with that? Do you really have a quality pedal board without buffering in and out? Inquiring minds want to know.
@sweetwater3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Russel! Thanks for your message, hope you're well and safe. Plenty of great tones are had without buffers, it's all a matter of making adjustments to all the other gear in the signal chain. Like lower capacitance cables and a brighter tone from the guitar or amp. Multiple buffers are helpful to retain "plugged into the amp" signal strength when you have several pedals in series. True Bypass pedals are great, you still have to factor in the cables connecting each pedal to the next so a buffer is still of benefit. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
@djc58973 жыл бұрын
Tuner->phaser->wah->overdrive->distortion-> chorus->delay is how I have mine.