Understanding Topology and Edge Flow in 3D Modeling

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On Mars 3D

On Mars 3D

Күн бұрын

After watching this tutorial, you will learn 5 tips for better understanding topology in any 3D software. Maya will be used for this demo but the concepts and workflows discussed here can be applied to any 3D Software.
I came up with these tips after many years of modeling professionally and teaching students over the years to improve their understanding of topology
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Software used in Tutorial: Maya 2020
#topology #retopology #edgeflow #retopo #autodeskmaya #3dmodeling
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Table of Contents
0:00 Introduction
0:37 Tip 1 - Localize topology
6:48 Tip 2 - How to clean up ngons and triangles
11:15 Tip 3 - Adding edge flow for form
13:32 Tip 4 - Holding edges and face loops
19:00 Tip 5 - Practice with retopology and quad draw
24:08 Recap all tips
25:52 Conclusion
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@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D Жыл бұрын
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@ChrisCohen
@ChrisCohen 2 жыл бұрын
I played a game where I had to drink every time you said "go ahead and" in this video. I passed out after 30 seconds. 😆 Thanks, really important lesson on topology here, I learned a huge amount.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad you found it helpful! :)
@DrakZhull
@DrakZhull 2 жыл бұрын
I would just like to add a little comment to the first tip for everyone, be careful when using cutting and welding vertices so you don't create so-called spiderwebs (welding several edges into a single vertex without proper edge flow and loops). It can screw with smoothing and overall shadows from lighting very easily, leaving ugly artifacts. In certain situations, it can occasionally work and seem extremely efficient but it is not worth the potential clean-up work when it doesn't. Great Vid! 👍
@cioelle
@cioelle 2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly the lesson i needed, there's not enough simple yet detailed videos talking about topology like you do - especially w/ localising topology. thank you so much for this
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@user-ju9uo5sn8e
@user-ju9uo5sn8e 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE MY PROFESSOR. YOU DESERVE MORE KZbin PEOPLE.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, more to come!
@cinnamocole
@cinnamocole 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in my first year at college studying 3D animation and was told that the only area I had to improve was my topology (specifically, stop using NGONS) - thank you so much for this tutorial, I really think this knowledge you have passed on will help me get the best grades I possibly can now. Thank you a million times!!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
That's really great to hear, glad you found it helpful!
@ThBlueSalamander
@ThBlueSalamander 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm doing Computer games art
@ninja_tony
@ninja_tony 2 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, that's a common problem just about everyone goes through when they are starting out! I doubt any of us got into modeling without having a problem with ngons in the beginning, and I know in my case, it took me forever to understand (I was learning all this stuff close to 20 years ago, before KZbin even existed, so you all are so lucky to have these resources!)
@addictedfoolgamer1970
@addictedfoolgamer1970 2 жыл бұрын
This was so useful! I’ve started looking into using Blender from total novice position and was finding it hard to get a decent non confusing explanation of topology and what retopology actually is.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@chandragrahaifanka635
@chandragrahaifanka635 3 жыл бұрын
yes please, more topology lesson. Btw, thanks for this video
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@MrPanker
@MrPanker 2 жыл бұрын
@@OnMars3D why maya looks very similar with blender
@user-fn5es1wh7u
@user-fn5es1wh7u 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPanker It’s the other way around.
@kasperesbjornsson9163
@kasperesbjornsson9163 3 ай бұрын
​@@OnMars3D1
@JRichardGaming
@JRichardGaming 6 ай бұрын
This is now one of my favorite videos on KZbin.
@risingghost2809
@risingghost2809 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a blender user. Found this to be an excellent explanation of topology (something I have an issue with.) Thank you!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@TranquilMarmot
@TranquilMarmot 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the recap at the end! I have a feeling I'm going to come back and reference this all the time. I've been a casual Blender user for almost a decade, but I'm just now learning more about topology and kicking myself for not learning it earlier.
@naqabposhniraj
@naqabposhniraj 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Yes. Please more topology lessons & a big thanks for this tutorial 🙏!!
@ang2733
@ang2733 2 жыл бұрын
Your tutorials are fantastic and very helpful. Thank you!!! Wld love to see you go deeper into topology in Maya
@tuxedoblackfoot
@tuxedoblackfoot Жыл бұрын
Working with blender, started to get to where I needed to model hands and feet. Very helpful tutorial.
@kammm1203
@kammm1203 Ай бұрын
I watched a lot of toturials about topology in youtube and I think this is the most detailed and informative one so far in KZbin.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 27 күн бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@klauszwegert6382
@klauszwegert6382 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for commenting on an older Video but i can advice people to not force yourself to model everything out of one object. I personally did the mistake that i treid to really have something as one whole object. If you can get away with modeling it seperate withouth it being to inaccurate from the concept it should be fine. Great video, our school recommend your channel
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this helpful and appreciate the recommendation!
@kookio4284
@kookio4284 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap this really opened my eyes even today as someone who has been having problems with not going over my class’s tri limit in Maya.
@Mahim270
@Mahim270 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video,would love for more of this same kind.
@christianlee1423
@christianlee1423 3 жыл бұрын
more topology/modelling complex objects please! u are a great teacher
@user-zi1ru7ru8f
@user-zi1ru7ru8f 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not very good at polygon modeling, so it's very helpful for me to have this kind of instructional video. Thanks!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@JoySenseKO
@JoySenseKO 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you! Clear, structured explanation with good voice
@lukasallenbaugh4728
@lukasallenbaugh4728 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! This is the clearest video on topology I've seen to date. Very helpful!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@VishnuMenon
@VishnuMenon 7 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@drewbigelow4979
@drewbigelow4979 7 ай бұрын
Massively underrated my dude!
@moonchild8105
@moonchild8105 10 ай бұрын
Such a precise and helpful tutorial, thank you a lot.
@avdeshk3553
@avdeshk3553 8 ай бұрын
really helpful 👍
@RichellyItalo
@RichellyItalo Жыл бұрын
The best video about edge flow ever.
@Timeshlft
@Timeshlft 2 жыл бұрын
So it's the best topology tutorial! Thanks you good men.
@jere.d9
@jere.d9 7 ай бұрын
nice tips, my friend!
@danieldallagnol5523
@danieldallagnol5523 2 жыл бұрын
Ty so much!!!!! I was struggling with some triangles
@hamidrezasalami4620
@hamidrezasalami4620 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful tips! Thanks a lot!
@Ponk_80
@Ponk_80 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining this so well.
@antonbayda2571
@antonbayda2571 3 жыл бұрын
This is freaking awesome! Extremely useful video, keep up the great work)
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@pyre753
@pyre753 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Looking forward to watching more of your content in the near future.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@curlyt8198
@curlyt8198 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 🙃👌🏼💪🏼😍
@TheGrayKPlays
@TheGrayKPlays Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! I have been modeling for ages as a hobby and topology is one of my least favorite subjects and most videos I find on the subject bore me to death this was simple to the point and INFORMATIVE! Thank you!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D Жыл бұрын
Happy to share!
@BarrettSmithBB
@BarrettSmithBB 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Even though I don't use Maya, the fact that you go over the basic fundamentals that bridge many different softwares is amazingly helpful for a novice in any 3D modeling software.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
No problem, happy to share!
@galacticbroadcastingcompan8756
@galacticbroadcastingcompan8756 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you. Can't believe this was free. Subbed
@blairzettl3933
@blairzettl3933 2 жыл бұрын
11:00 Luke would have never made those turns. Great tut, thanks!
@Grrrlikeme
@Grrrlikeme 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was extremely useful. Thank you so much for this video!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@maurogamer5135
@maurogamer5135 Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best video I have ever found about Topology, thanks so much for sharing it! I left like , bell and suscription for ever!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@russelloverland9508
@russelloverland9508 2 жыл бұрын
wow! Thanks for the tips!!
@sillylittlecartoons4335
@sillylittlecartoons4335 2 жыл бұрын
You are my hero. This makes SOOOOO much more sense to me now. Ty!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate comments like these, always happy to help!
@willraz5497
@willraz5497 6 ай бұрын
fantastic very helpful much needed
@TheOfficialTimro
@TheOfficialTimro 2 жыл бұрын
Sheeeeessshhh low key gonna watch all your tutorials so that I can bring back the Lancer one day ;)
@hobbieretardo
@hobbieretardo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good explanation and multiple examples, now i finally get it the use of this.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, that was my goal showing all these different types of models!
Жыл бұрын
amazing video! thanks for sharing the knowledge!
@AtSkiy1987
@AtSkiy1987 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks!
@growupempresas3698
@growupempresas3698 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing thoughts organization! thank you so much
@TheOscarGamer_
@TheOscarGamer_ 2 жыл бұрын
Might watch it later, this will be useful next time I practice a bit with Blender
@racheleprojects
@racheleprojects 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m self taught so seeing a structured video on typology will def help me improve my work. Thank you!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@LuisLopez-lm3lk
@LuisLopez-lm3lk 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you so much for this video, whas exactly what I needed
@federico8342
@federico8342 2 жыл бұрын
this is pure gold
@pyrotechnick420
@pyrotechnick420 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this refresher, I'm not sure if we ever properly learned how to guide edge flow back in the day in school. I've been struggling using the subdivide workflow for years now, being unable to control my edge flow properly. Thank you for this.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@dazecm
@dazecm 20 күн бұрын
Good explanation of Linear Edge Reduction. You can also apply the same techniques to Radial Edge Reduction when extruding shapes from a surface.
@milagroswarnholtz2137
@milagroswarnholtz2137 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZINGGG so useful! thank you for doing these videos and shearing your knowledge! i really appreciate them
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to share!
@TherealSam561
@TherealSam561 2 жыл бұрын
amazing work thank you !
@espinafreAzul
@espinafreAzul 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found your channel, I'm going to apply to my study right now!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck!!
@5SecondsOfFrames
@5SecondsOfFrames Жыл бұрын
the video was so helpful thank you so much
@sagardchavda2873
@sagardchavda2873 3 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful, would like to see more topology lessons
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@vitlaska
@vitlaska 2 жыл бұрын
loved it! definitively will be sticking around for more hahaha
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@Mamika_AFK
@Mamika_AFK Жыл бұрын
Very useful lesson and easy to apply in any 3d software! Thank u so much! Just subbed 😄👍
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!!
@dennispfund9202
@dennispfund9202 4 ай бұрын
Super interesting, much thanks really.
@mbattee
@mbattee 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you.
@Jason-gs6hd
@Jason-gs6hd 2 жыл бұрын
very useful vod, thanks
@TheSatzy6699
@TheSatzy6699 5 ай бұрын
Excellent content and explanation 🎉
@danielsonderhoff5882
@danielsonderhoff5882 10 ай бұрын
Great help. Thanx
@kamolhakim3688
@kamolhakim3688 Жыл бұрын
Very powerfull video, Thanks a lot Ser
@Wirus1337
@Wirus1337 2 жыл бұрын
really helpful!
@Aljan_17
@Aljan_17 2 жыл бұрын
Your video was very helpful! Thank you for this!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@the_3d_cookie
@the_3d_cookie 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful man thanks for this mate 😁😁😁
@nickliu7736
@nickliu7736 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing about this!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Of course!
@snazziington
@snazziington 2 жыл бұрын
this was really useful! will definitely implement these tips on the model i'm currently working on :D
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johnathandoe8577
@johnathandoe8577 2 жыл бұрын
amazing models
@nicolevreeland3027
@nicolevreeland3027 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I've been taking classes to learn Maya and this video was so helpful.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@D31T7
@D31T7 3 жыл бұрын
realllllly helpful on my workflow !
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@btovdeo
@btovdeo 10 ай бұрын
Excelente!!
@TheDorianTube
@TheDorianTube 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you just cleared out my doubts. Like you said, a looooooooot of people barely use holding edges. I was taught to use them pretty much always, but started to have doubts whenever I compared my models to people that are way more skilled than me. Their models always looked so clean, while mine had all those holding edges around, so I started to use them less and less. Now I have peace of mind lol
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@Barreta91
@Barreta91 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, high quality content!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@farhadsamadov3598
@farhadsamadov3598 2 жыл бұрын
What a amazing artist! Why I found you now?!
@vrtech473
@vrtech473 2 жыл бұрын
this really helps me out Thanks!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@CHITUS
@CHITUS 2 жыл бұрын
Great! You could do a separate playlist about edge flow, loops, topology, quad vs tri vs n-gons, etc., from the ground up! Thanks!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely on my list, more topology videos!
@PieterHanja
@PieterHanja 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@galotta8475
@galotta8475 4 ай бұрын
@15:50 - would a Champer Modifier do the work as well (as a holding edge)?
@osantinello
@osantinello 6 ай бұрын
best youtube video I ever seen!
@yeye3999
@yeye3999 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video, will help me a lot. many thanks! 🤗
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Elvera4art
@Elvera4art 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ikaisoha2700
@ikaisoha2700 Жыл бұрын
18:43 Wow that is cool seat 💗
@jambadidi9922
@jambadidi9922 Жыл бұрын
Hi, it is a great video. But would you be so kind and explain situation on 0:50? Youŕe doing the first cut and the result is one vertex on the right side and two vertices on the left. How do you get rid of the second vertex on the left? I can imagine it can be used on some plane but on box like you´ve showed on your other videos you end up with triangle. So 1-3 is easy but with this could you answer me?
@Numi_Verse
@Numi_Verse Жыл бұрын
Edgeflow has been a challenge for me, but im thinking im starting to get it finally. Thank you
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@alvarotavares1966
@alvarotavares1966 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@hihihing7302
@hihihing7302 2 жыл бұрын
very very helpful
@IZNT-0
@IZNT-0 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@schizoscope8703
@schizoscope8703 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Luv0oKat
@Luv0oKat 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks God i found you!
@leomagnez
@leomagnez 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video with clear explanations, thank you ! :D Does the same techniques apply to meshes intended for Environment Art ? (I would guess so since most topology tutorials on KZbin seam to feature characters rather than objects but I want to be sure)
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
All of these techniques can apply to environment modeling but you can take it further and use more triangles and have less even distribution of edges. You can also have less clean geometry for environment props since they do not need skinning for animation and just use rigid body animations. Of course, you need to keep in mind low poly vs sub-d modeling, I plan to cover that topic soon.
@USBEN.
@USBEN. 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very good video for everything regarding topology.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@alexim3354
@alexim3354 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much! Nobody taught me this!
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@Rosa-ng8uu
@Rosa-ng8uu 25 күн бұрын
Finnaly good tutorial about topology.
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 25 күн бұрын
Glad it helped!
@7petallotus
@7petallotus 2 жыл бұрын
thank you this video helped a lot, currently learning 3d and I come from a 2d background so this really helped me make senesce of modeling
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@RonnieMirands
@RonnieMirands 3 жыл бұрын
Thats absolutely amazing! Keep more of this please! Something could be useful to teach would be this: A lot of people use bolleans for hard surface. For production is really possible to keep this approach of cutting things (like boxcutter-blender style)?
@OnMars3D
@OnMars3D 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed this! I recently covered how to use Booleans in Maya when hard surface modeling. Is this what you mean? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYG8Y2lopNOViNk
@AlexTsekot
@AlexTsekot Жыл бұрын
Depends on the production.
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