Understanding where history, Constitution & Supreme Court stand on Kashi Vishwanath-Gyanvapi issue

#GyanvapiMosque #KashiVishwanathTemple
The Gyanvapi Mosque survey has once again stoked the debate around historical wrongs and whether they should be corrected. In Episode 1004 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta discusses the historical and legal implications of the issue and how the Supreme Court's interpretation of the Places of Worship Act of 1991 can provide a solution.
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Correction: At 12:02, as per Places of Worship Act, nobody can force any change in the character of any place of worship that India inherited on 15 August 1947 and not ‘15 August 1957’ as mentioned.
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[@raghavendranarayanaswamy2782]

I have one basic question. Let's assume that pond has a shivling are u ok if ppl wash their feet there. Is that right? In what mindset was this turned into a pond, if indeed a shivling was there. Let alone constitution,law,history argument. This won't stand morality test

[@Views-Opinion]

@@raghavendranarayanaswamy2782 dude Guptaji is funded by the Tukade gang …. these people can never step outside the party line ….. ignore them 😊

[@muralichundi]

There are questions that stem from this interpretation that should have been clarified, may be the judgment did, but Mr. Gupta didn’t quote. Just like the 17th century Moghul rulers, Hindu society was not fair to the tribal and backward class people. That is not the fault of the current generation, but india made amends to its constitution to help those people and the Supreme Court agreed with those laws from time to time. The court did not say bygone be bygones

[@punnavanamsubbiah7434]

INC pm Rao enacted the 1991 law on place worship. But courts were playing test, one day and 20 overs so that UP and RSS BJP is always in lime light so that their view on secular kept under burner. Last came 2019 unsigned judgement bought by RSS Modi so that UP + cow belt is always under gujarat type of model. I am with late Rao of INC which a civilized person 1950 born will de clutter and move the voters of UP and cow belt in civilized way rather Putin way to get destroyed all the way. Print should give right direction to all wheat eaters.

[@muralichundi]

@@punnavanamsubbiah7434 “ Print” is a news channel and they just report. They don’t drive the public opinion one way or other. That is for leaders to take the country in one direction or another. PVNR was no mass leader but a clever one. Modi is getting nervous about the rise of AAP and taking a hard right turn to not have space for AAP to grow. Hence u see all these issues dominate the headlines

[@JJ-jt8ie]

Being a Christian by birth, even I feel disturbed by the fact that these sacred places of worship were destroyed. Such shallow minded people!

[@rickyghosh398]

u are only a converted rice bag 🍚 this is ur real identity....

[@hj-fc7wt]

Bruh destroyed is diffrent thing what these fellow muslim have done in that temple is whole new level of evil ,they used shivling place for washing there hands and feet and leftist says we hate muslim bruh muslim don't even consider othere religious people as human ,

[@prasadputrevu]

You mean by Aurangzeb right?

[@varshu7603]

@@prasadputrevu 👍🏼

[@dineshpatil9254]

U mean disturb by Vatican conversions 🤣🤣🤣

[@sudeepkasa3053]

If Aurangzeb wanted to destroy the temple for political reasons as mentioned, then why would he later order a mosque to be built on it? Unless he wants to provoke the religious feelings of the place?

[@AG-vb6vv]

Mate, the mental gymnastics these secularists have to do to ‘secularise’ Islamist bigots is as laughable as it is morally and intellectually reprehensible. In a few hundred years, they will be saying ISIS raped Yazidi sex slave for ‘purely political reasons’ not their Islamist bigotry and personal perversions.. makes my blood boil but I listen to leftists as they are mostly just ignorant, best way to help them see the light is by debating with them and calling out their hypocrisy

[@VarunPathakCovers]

These are just sugar coated stories that the left historians love to tell. Even today temples are destroyed and idols desecrated by ordinary citizens of certain religion in Pakistan and Bangladesh. What political motives do they have there? Idols and idol worshipping are hated in a certain religion and that is not just an RSS propaganda. It's clearly written in their books. Only the people who are ignorant enough can fall for these stories told by these so called "Historians".

[@mmBharath2024]

what political? It is completely religious. He tried his best to destroy Hinduism. Thats why we see so many converts.

[@arunkumartaori4591]

As per Islam a mosque cannot be built on any other religious site whether Hindu, Christian or Jew etc.. The mosques built on Hindu religious site at Varanasi & elsewhere are unholy as per Islam. Cany anybody clarify on this.

[@hj-fc7wt]

@@arunkumartaori4591 bruh muslim most holy site in arab was itself a pagan site of worship

[@jitinsharma8902]

If Reservations can be given to to correct the historical wrongs , same way we can pass an act to correct the historical wrongs in the place of 1991 Act. 1991 Act prohibits Hindus from their rightful practice of their religion which is Fundamental Right under Constitution.

[@jababathhehut2923]

No stop focusing on history

[@niminsuresh4249]

It doesn't, it only protects the present status from mad religious majority. You can worship at any place, god is ' sarvavyapi'

[@Abdul-qt4hg]

@@jababathhehut2923 average dara hua chusalman

[@jababathhehut2923]

@@Abdul-qt4hg k.

[@vatsalraval]

@@niminsuresh4249 'sarvavyapi' ishwar tells us to crush Malecha like u ! Will do it wait and watch till that cope harder Malecha

[@padmanabhann4735]

Your quote on directive principles also applies to hindu religion protection. If secularism is core component, then uniform civil code is.

[@riichobamin7612]

UCC cannot work in India. Also, Muslims are not the only minority in India. E.g. in most of India the property is passed down through sons while in Khasi, Jaintia and Garo community it is passed down through daughters. So which one will you choose ? UCC can interfere in this tradition as passing down of wealth, land and lineage is a "civilian" matter. And just look at the in history of north east. We do not take kindly to anyone else interfering in our matters (hence Article 371).

[@kumar4379]

People will use different angle for UCC not use secularism... that's the trick

[@nitinkelaskar6562]

First work on equality amongst all Hindus. If Bramhins are divided into 700 sub castes, where is UCC amongst Bramhins ? First put Hindu house in order then talk about UCC

[@aniketnautiyal8697]

@@nitinkelaskar6562 does UCC says it will not apply to Hindus? Please delete your comment because it just shows how stupid you are.

[@arjavgarg5801]

@@riichobamin7612 you can slowly force the societies to reform via the UCC, conservatives of all sides get snubbed equally.

[@surendrabarsode8959]

1. Whether a temple is demolished for political or religious purpose is immaterial; whether some temples are destroyed and others were let off is again immaterial. Injustice done has to be addressed based on facts and evidences and through Court. 2. Places of worship Act needs to be amended if it is coming in the way.

[@niminsuresh4249]

That's a very dangerous statement, you are not a good hindu

[@millennialmind9507]

@Surendra Barsode it can be ammendment. It is just obiter dicta meaning opinion of the bench. Can be changed

[@erenyeager4452]

oh shut up dude.

[@WhistleMaster]

Agree 100%. Hindus were oppressed by Islamic and Christian rules for hundreds of years when our temples were destroyed, this is the time to reclaim and rebuild them. They got their chance and they destroyed, we need our chance to reclaim what rightfully belongs to us.

[@allahkakafirbanda1939]

India heritage demands justice from invaders. Will Constitution give it?

[@wokeymcwokeface1974]

Thank you for the explanation, Shekhar Ji! If we’re truly secular and can’t open history, then we need uniform civil code and all people of all castes and religions should have same treatment without preferences. You can’t have it both ways!

[@rdc515]

As much as I have read on the issue, more Hindus would be uncomfortable if a UCC is brought in (e.g. marrying cousins is practiced by some Hindu communities or Hindus in some regions like to consume cow meat). It would be better if regressive practices in all religions are outlawed or penalised e.g. triple talaq or sati or dowry or child marriage, but cultural/customary differences are respected and preserved. My honest question (not rhetorical) is, how do you contrast being truly secular and unifying Indian society with the politically diversionary and divisive stunts of digging up historical debates?

[@abhishekjoshi4648]

​@@rdc515 Ahh, the real meaning of UCC is about marriage practices especially having multiple wives, proper divorce mechanism for all religion with alimony etc. etc.

[@rdc515]

@@abhishekjoshi4648 Okay. In that case, why do we not want just polygamy banned? Similarly divorce, inheritance and alimony issues can also be regularised. Other kinds of personal laws can be allowed to remain. History also shows that it's Hindu male leaders who were more bothered by Muslim men's permission to practice polygamy while Hindu society was being asked to give up regressive practices. Since polygamy basically deteriorates the status of women, the call for such a reform movement should come from within Muslim society. It will happen sooner or later. But Hindus demanding a ban on Muslim polygamy and other practices pits us against them too often and is encashed year after year for noisy debates and dividing the electorate. I say this because in my whole life I have never seen Hindus wanting that all Hindus should practice the same things. We just seem to want Muslims to not practice things we are not allowed to practice. Even dowry or intercaste marriages or untouchability have not been eradicated by any good measure from Hindu society.

[@wokeymcwokeface1974]

@@rdc515 that’s the real question. Btw, cousin marriage won’t be illegal under UCC if they’re consenting adults. It’s practiced in all religions btw. It’s more so in the south than in the north. Cow meat is a debate Hindus need to have as to whether they want to impose that on other religions.

[@vishramsingbal2521]

@@rdc515 I think you need to understand UCC first before commenting. The state of Goa practices UCC which was taken up from the Portuguese.

[@amanshukla8758]

I think a big mistake some people make when discussing or analysing Hindu-Muslim issues is that a lot of these people, especially Western Media covering it and sections of Indian media trying to emulate their Western counterparts, they tend to take an approach similar to the one they take in covering White-Black issues, and that's where they lose the plot. In White-Black issues, the White majority ruled over the Black minority through democratically elected govts for almost 400 years and oppressed them multiple times, so the Black minority has a grievance towards the White majority, which is now being expressed by a minoritarian Biden govt. In Hindu-Muslim issues, on the other hand, the Muslim minority ruled over the Hindu majority for almost 800 years through absolute monarchies and oppressed them multiple times, so here the Hindu majority has a grievance towards the Muslim minority, which is now being expressed through a majoritarian Modi govt. This difference of dynamics in both the cases must be considered by any person before he or she jumps onto a simplistic or stereotypical ideological conclusion. This issue is complex and so must be discussed with a cerebral mindset

[@marinshibu8220]

Best topic to discuss when ppl have no livelihood. Sheesh. And a govt enforcing this. R u serious

[@d.dcosta8771]

I agree with you

[@akhiljames3435]

This only creates a endless cycle of rift between communities. The victims today are the oppressors of tomorrow and vice versa, history testifies it. The ideological left operates on this rift and sadly even Indian right wing has latched onto it.

[@AshishGautam-sy3vm]

Muslims justify wrong deeds of monarchies

[@anshuraj4277]

Mugal rule was also Rajput rule Lots of Mughals were half Rajput Almost all kings were Tyrants Doesn't make sense to use past as tool of oppression now

[@animeshomprakash2621]

In my reading of the Ayodgya judgement, the mention of the places of worship act, 1991 is only mentioned as a obiter-dicta (opinion of the bench) hence not binding, so if the parliament repeals the places of worship act it won't violate the basic structure doctrine.

[@dpkchohan]

Also in clause 3 of the 1991 act it states that ancient buildings does not count in it.

[@UPSC_poetry]

@@dpkchohan ancient sites of archeological significance which will come under ASMR act

[@foolio5588]

GIVE BACK ABDUL RAHMAN CHAND MIYAN BABA (saibaba) HE WAS MUSLIM ,IT WAS DARGAH UNTILL 1960's

[@ontherox2266]

The question at that time before the SC would be whether what this judgement said is indeed a part of basic structure. That question will have to be answered at some point in future.

[@sgmoments9909]

@@foolio5588 the pollution doesn't happen due to festival (only less 1 percent of total pollution even after 2 days of diwali happens due to crackers) ....it happens due to crop burning in Punjab and road pollution (car driving etc)....you are fighting the wrong enemy if your priority is your lungs

[@arjavgarg5801]

You didn't talk about the ASI part of the Act where if the structure is more than 100 years old then it doesn't apply to that place.

[@DC-do7oe]

Agree. He completely left of exemption stated in pow act. See below. Besides the Ayodhya dispute, the Act also exempts: > any place of worship that is (a) any place of worship referred to in the said sub- sections which is an ancient and historical monument or an archaeological site or remains covered by the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Sites and Remains Act, 1958 (24 of 1958.) or any other law for the time being in force; (b) any suit, appeal or other proceeding, with respect to any matter referred to in sub-section (2), finally decided, settled or disposed of by a court, tribunal or other authority before the commencement of this Act; (c) any dispute with respect to any such matter settled by the parties amongst themselves before such commencement; (d) any conversion of any such place effected before such commencement by acquiescence; (e) any conversion of any such place effected before such commencement which is not liable to be challenged in any court, tribunal or other authority being barred by limitation under any law for the time being in force.

[@vivekdeshmukh5379]

Yes....episode is not neutral....some facts like this are ignored

[@jayeshdesai1069]

Excerpts quoted and discussed selectively to suit the agenda. Refrained from giving his own opinion to appear unbiased. Has not changed his character over the years . Refuses to 'walk' only 'talks'.

[@bkp95]

Judicial review is also part of basic structure of constitution. No one even Supreme Court can stop anyone going court just to protect "secularism ". This act must be amended. Even everyone has started to believe that article 370 was permanent despite being clearly written in bold that it is temporary provision . There needs to be courage .

[@lovesharma4883]

No matter how much one tries to Justify Aurangzeb's actions (whether it was political or religious or both), the fact remain that he was a barbaric foreigner. Any structure associated with him is a sign of oppression, not something to be celebrated and cheered.

[@prriyasingh5024]

I wholeheartedly support Akbar and most Mughal rulers but Aurangzeb is another matter like seriously. A psycho marauder who didn't have an idea of his own religion. Religious zeal to justify his hatred. Because apparently in Islam mosques are not allowed to be made on disputed land. The prophet and his successors said so. But these ppl weren't religious. They played politics

[@uglytoad285]

@@prriyasingh5024 he burned to death Sikh guru.

[@prriyasingh5024]

@@uglytoad285 Akbar??

[@lovesharma4883]

@@prriyasingh5024 compared to Aurangzeb, Akbar may be better, but even I was surprised to know about Akbar and the "meena bazaar" concept. Do google it.

[@uglytoad285]

@@prriyasingh5024 aurangzeb

[@shaktikumar8560]

So much for a law when all kinds of laws are amended, repealed or simply not followed. Do we realize that not just is the temple razed (clearly documented) we have people discharging dirty and waste on religious object of such significance. Does that not tell you something?

[@ranadeepkundu5357]

shhhh, you are living in a secular country and you are supposed to appease a particular community here.

[@aashish1703]

There was a wrong committed in 1667 in mathura and kashi. These two places along with ayodhya are of utmost religious importance to the hindus. Every one knows that temples were destroyed & mosques built to show hindus their place. Today's muslims must therefore give up atleast these three places to acknowledge the fact that historic wrongs were committed & they want to move forward. If this doesn't happen the people in power will anyways find/built laws to correct these wrongs. Hopefully things happen amicably.

[@marinshibu8220]

Hahaha seriously. Sheesh. Do u know many in India have no money or food. God help u

[@aashish1703]

@@marinshibu8220 i know how many need food. I live here. That doesn't make anything right. Our socio economic problems need attention.. but facts won't change if we look the other way.

[@AG-vb6vv]

@@marinshibu8220 They are hardly mutually exclusive you Hinduphobic fool. Had you pseudo secular pigs given us our rights, we could move on yet you obstruct us from justice and our insult our Dharma, a communal provocation if there ever was one. Sometimes I think Islamists aren’t the biggest enemies of Hindus and Santana Dharma, it’s the Nehruvian secular atheists who had oppressed us for many decades before we organised under BJP. Well news flash you bigot, future is Hindu and sick seculars like you will find yourself increasingly marginalised. Jai Hind, Jai Shree Ram🚩

[@usdgreat6469]

@@marinshibu8220 so give the land to the bjp ...then discuss on food ok.?

[@mrityunjaytiwari6224]

@@marinshibu8220 yes begar go beg near that same temple

[@SuperAditya29]

And when parliament passed the 1991 places of worship act did any study being done to check some of the ancient disputes that needs to be legally resolved one way or the other. Or it was an hurriedness of a government to show to people and their voters that the government is doing something to remedy the Babri demolition mess

[@parttimebaba123]

Same gov revoked supreme court order on triple talaq what do you expect from such vote bank politics ??? This bill was brought in haste to calm there muslim vote bank as they could not defend illegal structure of Babri.. BJP is not obliged to please these vote banks they got there own hardline hindu vote bank and to please them BJP will take action supporting Kashi - Mathura renovation..

[@surajs5913]

@A M who are you to tell me where to go? Every mosque will be reclaimed. You need only a compass to pray your black idol at mecca. Islam is an idol stuck in medieval arabia.

[@surajs5913]

@A M are you acknowledging that someone demolished a temple in varanasi? The muslim side are denying that too - it is called al taquiyya or deception for the sake of islam. Unfortunately there is no way to compensate for their stupidity since archaeological proof is immune to their deception. But it does help them organise riots tho...

[@sharadchandakacherla8268]

Respectfully, some things are non negotiable sir. Kashi is not just another city for a vast group of people in India. Lets say it was just a political tool to suppress rebellion , but doesn't mean it was justified and doesn't warrant any reparations . Taking law in hands is bad, agreed, but people can and should have freedom to discuss and settle the issue.

[@supdasaaf]

When laws are discriminatory there is no boundaries. If one side when a law is proposed can take law in hands to pressurise the government, why not a tit for tat action? I don't encourage such actions, but at times the saying goes well "लाते के भूत, बाते से नहीं मानते"

[@antarikshtyagi]

So how far behind do you want to go back in history? Do you have a cut-off date? 100, 300, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000 yrs? where do you want to stop?

[@chopramo]

@@antarikshtyagi Why should there be a cut off? I am proud of my history so should all Indians (Hindu or Muslim). Do you see that with Christians or Muslims? They want to go back as much as possible and even people like you believe it even if they serve you fake prophets on a plate. Oldest civilization is the Indian civilization and it WILL be redeemed. If you do not like it step aside…please 🙏

[@rajesh_624]

@@chopramo you just happened to be born here and to Hindu parents..whats that to be so proud of? In your next reincarnation you can be reborn to muslim parents in Saudi Arabia ..

[@mahinderkumar1013]

Well explained. Yeh ganja is like thali ka bengun. No principled discussion or analysis can be expected from him. His fame was creating false narrative about alleged or possible coup attempt under Gen Singh during Manmohan's pm ship. Yeh rayeta phelane mai mahir hai. A lobbyist?

[@mahehoc]

Caste oppression is historical injustice. We took steps to rectify it. Same logic, Muslims oppressed Hindus, we need justice. We don't say to SC ppl that historical injustice happened.. let's move on. No need for reservation or any thing. When Muslims are proud of the past oppression how can there be peace. Assume "fascist" BJP established Hindu dictatorship, conquered Mecca and built shiv temple on it. Then after 20 yrs the BJP loses power. Will you support rebuilding of mosque or maintain status quo? To move forward, muslims themselves must come forward and surrender important temple sites. Seculars will ask to build school, hospitals etc ,instead, of Hindu temples. Historical injustice has to be solved. 1991 act is appeasement. It can't be secularism. Secularism must uphold social justice.

[@jababathhehut2923]

How r Muslims responsible for acts of Mughals then u as a Hindu , r u responsible of the massacre of Kalinga being a Hindu , no right, stop u useless religious pollitics

[@millennialmind9507]

Right logic 👍

[@priyamupadhyay5131]

You are right on point.

[@desibigfoot3874]

Dude, you beat me to the comment. I was gonna write when I saw yours.

[@omkathe3599]

Commies and self proclaimed intellects can't comprehend it

[@AWSexpert1]

Repeal the palaces of worship Act. If farms laws can be repealed so can this act. 🤗

[@Vizorfam]

Yeah because this will help in development of nation isn't it?

[@thekingofoktimes]

It can't be. He just explained for half the video why it can't.

[@iforindia8509]

@@Vizorfam Yes , it's necessary for spiritual development of the nation

[@varunmittal2905]

@@Vizorfam some things are not done for development They are done for justice And just so you know religious tourism account for 3 percent of india's GDP AND FARM BILL WERE MEANT FOR DEVELOPMENT

[@soorajnarayan4112]

@@Vizorfam yes it will. Acknowledgement of truth is among the best medicines to cure the wrongdoings of history. If you don’t believe this, ask the blacks of South Africa.

[@livintraveller2542]

King Shivaji was one of the greatest humanists and reformers in medieval India, his main stuggle was fighting against oppressive tyrannical powers and feudal lords oppressing the peasant farmers

[@AG-vb6vv]

His struggle was against the oppressive Islamist foreign rulers seeking to destroy Indian civilisation, don’t try and secularise him, he was a proud Hindu!

[@darshu94]

@@AG-vb6vv Exactly, his seal was in Sanskrit ( which was first at that time as most used farsi ) He belived in maa bhawani.

[@anandms7537]

​@@AG-vb6vvin present ncp and congress and now even uddhav ji painted shivaji maharaj as secular.

[@maniaphobia4719]

A Solution with Indian instinct can be , Muslim leaders in India come forward and gracefully leave the places where there are evidences of temple being demolished; They can be offered other lands for building a mosque ; Right now , a mosque near a temple (or) on top of it is frustrating to both communities ; For sure , the issue can not be resolved by our courts while politicians would like to continue with issues burning forever ;

[@kash60ishvlog67]

No actually that isnt possible anymore. It is a continuous programme which is quiet availble in the public domain. Rss & its sister organisation has a model prepared for thousands of Mosques that they want to destroy. Every 25-30 years a mosque will be broken till it get sanctioned by the Court. This way their relevance of Hindu radical politics remains eternal and BJP will keep winning elections for decades. Many people dont realise that Hindutva ideology has an economic or a materialistic model attached to it as well. Recently i got to know that Hindu radicals Bajrang Dal who are Gau Rakshak Mafias, take money to remain silent from people who run animal husbandry or domestication firms. This whole model targeted against the Minority Bashing (including Cristians) is not only profitable but sustainable.

[@LaluBhaiya1233]

I don't think that will satisfy the bjp right, they would rather every mosque was destroyed. Who's to say that they will stop at mosques under contention or who's to stop them from making up an issue to get mosques vacated even if there is no dispute.

[@justkillitho4528]

​@@LaluBhaiya1233 bjp can't do anything if majority Hindus don't give a shit. Hindus only Care about the mandir of our ram Krishna Shiva.

[@rohitrai6187]

Why do you think they didn't do it for 300 years? To many Muslims, the existence of a mosque atop ruins of a temple is a motif for supremacy of Islam.

[@saibabupinnamaneni6072]

@@LaluBhaiya1233 what is bjp for hindus. ?!

[@arindambaisya]

Call it democracy or majoritarianism, the courts and constitution are a reflection of the will of the people and not the other way around. India is a liberal democracy with protection for minorities only because the majority support and stand by it. That's the fundamental truth is often forgotten. Basic structure masic structure.

[@sahilshrivastava3333]

the most sensible comment in the entire thread.

[@Rajan112358]

agreed

[@together1882]

Absolutely, everything is just a reflection of its majority (quality and quantity), so if the rights (or unacceptable rights were given just because some govts hd power) given are being misused without being thankful for consideration shown by the majority, the majority will make ways to alter things in an indirect ways (raise of bjp). If real peace is wanted discussing issues with the majority is very very important.. according to me hindus will not stop till mughals are accepted as communal, few temples r replaced, organized foreign funded conversion and propoganda are stopped, population fertility of muslims is regularised, and Islam is reformed upto some extent that it becomes personal matter.

[@vivianpereira3041]

The trouble with all this talk of demolition of mosques is emotional and not logical.

[@anoopjm]

Aurangzeb's approach to religious tolerance is well understood in the martyrdom of Guru Teg Bahadur as the latter protected the religious freedom of Kashmiri Hindu Pandits. The subsequent Zafarnama written by Guru Gobind Singh to an ailing Aurangzeb is well documented and clearly shows the impression of Aurangzeb on the Indian subcontinent.

[@youttt27]

Mr Shahanawaz Ghazni (SG) ere has his unique take on the matter!

[@Earlytorise89]

9:30 - "It is established that a temple was destroyed to build a mosque." The offense rests.

[@RajatSharma-lr6si]

That ‘91 Places of Worship Law was passed by Congress without any discussion, or engaging the opposition. Therefore it should be scrapped in exactly the same way.

[@prasvasu4217]

The Ayodhya dispute settlement under the Modi government was ultimately peaceful; with concessions like a new big beautiful megastructure Mosque built for the Muslims for whom its a place of worship. For many Hindus, Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura aren't just places of worship, its "sacred land". So build them a mosque and reclaim it.

[@prasvasu4217]

@Kumar Aniket That's not how public opinion or politics works.

[@aadarshsingh6456]

You cannot procede to future without accepting past

[@dhruvmarwah4641]

Rightly said, best we accept the decision of 1991 and the subsequent interpretation of 2019. It's all about where your loyalty lies 300 years back or the democratic republic of India where you currently reside

[@MythicEcho]

@@dhruvmarwah4641 and how we are supposed to live with it?, When MIM leaders Owaisi go to Aurangzeb grave and pray. Even if we are ready to move forward, these incidents of rubbing salt on our wounds, how are we supposed to let it go?

[@dhruvmarwah4641]

@@MythicEcho if you keep crying the tears of past then you can never live with it that goes for both communities without a doubt and as for Owaisi I don't know who is his god resides in aurangzeb or his Allah

[@MythicEcho]

@@dhruvmarwah4641 believe me I really love your ideology. But pragmatism told me BJP is necessary evil.

[@dhruvmarwah4641]

@@MythicEcho sorry bro then all you get is evil and new demons to keep fighting it. You want and end to this or not you can decide

[@adityagupta101]

Judiciary is suffering from a messiah complex; if they can focus on ensuring justice and not writing grand essays it will benefit nation immensely.

[@shashidharreddy2959]

If non-retrogression is essential, then why reservations? Why not kal ka bathe chodo, jobhi injustice huwa chodo? Kashi and Mathura are such a holy and important places in our religion.

[@OCStudies]

Yep mandir restoration is social justice movement

[@anmolpatelfifa]

@@OCStudies it's even more important ...It's about civilisational identity.. This sikular state would collapse one day ... Our community and civilisation would stay.

[@harshakumar104]

@@anmolpatelfifa Really? History is full of the corpses of collapsed civilizations. Nothing stays. Not your community, not your civilization. Everything changes, as it has changed in the past.

[@anmolpatelfifa]

@@harshakumar104 history has more examples of collapsed nation states eg Yogi Slavia, Prussia,USSR .... Civilisation has more resilience and some of them, like the Chinese are eternal...

[@orunabho]

SG, your argument will be acceptable to most if there is acceptance and reconciliation of our dirty past. Acceptance, that Turks were not indians, just as British were not indians, irrespective of whether tomorrow majority of Indians chooses to become Christians. Acceptance that india was under foreign occupation and colonization for 600+ years by dacoits, the most barbaric uncivilized warmongering people of that time. Acceptance that being born on Indian soil doesn't make you ethnic Indian with loyalties to indic civilization. Colonel Dyer was born in Missouri, and we all agree he was not Indian. For example Siraj ud Daula, the last Turki dacoit who ruled Bengal and defeated by Robert Clive, was not a Bengali, never spoke one word of Bengali. He was a Persian language speaking Arabic ideology believing Turk. So was Tipoo or Nizams or Nawabs...the occupying and colonizing aliens. Note, if we all chooses to be Christian tomorrow, the erstwhile Queen Victoria does not became our queen, nor does British empire becomes our empire. Or if by accident if Queen Victoria happens to be born in India, British colonization remains British colonization, an alien occupying force.

[@allahkakafirbanda1939]

Very valid point. Birth or citizenship in India does not make you indic. That's the reason India is still subject to arab imperialism.

[@nitinkelaskar6562]

Do you accept that Shudras are original Indians and not the Bramhins who invaded India in ancient time. Should we accept that Bramhins never spoke local PRAKRUT language and used SANSKRIT for communication. Why should we accept VEIDIC as Indian culture ?

[@surajs5913]

@@nitinkelaskar6562 the entire vedas describe the lands of haryana and punjab and you call it foreign? Funny...

[@tulsikeram347]

@@nitinkelaskar6562 because you are an illiterate idiot.. irrespective of caste creed or colour. The entire genesis of varna, bhasha , sanskrit , pali, prakrit , apabhramsa is sourced from veda, vedang and purana. Atleast read before vomiting bullshit. As far as u are concerned, nobody forced you to hold a religion. Relinquish Hinduism and its perks.. of course your greed wont let u do that.

[@lightboi9752]

@@nitinkelaskar6562 prakrut aur Sanskrit ka relation samjho....

[@sayantansakar9144]

If the Places of Worship Act was brought in 1991 how can it be that it is part of the basic structure of the constitution. Somnath Temples was built post independence while the mosque that rested there was shifted elsewhere. If that wasn't a violation of the spirit of the constitution how can Mathura and Kashi be a violation of the spirit of the constitution, if the SC says that the basic spirit of the constitution cannot change, are we a parliamentary democracy or a judicial autocracy?

[@sayantansakar9144]

also if the videography does turn out to prove that all the Hindu sculptures and shiv linga predates the mosque, then how will it be respecting the freedom of religion. There can be no more possible violation to the freedom of religion if you wash your feet near someone's holy place. If hardcore legal secularism is applied, I fear this could go the Ayodhya way which is undesirable. It would be better suited, if the conflict is resolved the Somnath way.

[@saureld2229]

I know Secularism, 5 judge benches passing neutral statements, saying that everyone are brothers and sisters and should forget history, sounds nice. The reality is that history leaves it's mark whether we like it or not, it cannot be simply wished away, the places of worship act basically legitimizes the temple destructions, which might have an opposite effect. I always wondered why is it that tolerance is preached to one community and are told to give up on their places of worship, while the other community is told that they don't need to show any reciprocation.

[@amoghavarsha5715]

If you read history from Mouryans time you can find many Buddhist and Jain Temples were destroyed and made them to Hindu Temple why you want to remember only hindu temples destroyed its all about kings they wanted to make there own beliefs or religion as great

[@hmmmm6685]

@@amoghavarsha5715 If proven.we will vacate that temple for either jain or Buddhist(on basis of evidence).Muslim should do same.

[@amanr7315]

1. Chadragupta maurya patronized Jainism. 2. Ashoka patronized Buddhism. 3. Shungas renovated Sanchi stupa, Satvahanas patronised buddhism. Ajanta and Ellora caves where jain, buddhist and Hindu temples exist side by side in harmony. While *Bakhtiyar* destroyed Nalanda university...... still the narrative is ..... hindu kings destroyed buddhist temples......

[@mallikonduri]

I agree with you that history leaves it's mark and cannot be wished away. But to say the places of worship act 'legitimizes' the destruction of temples is to insert bias into the law. The law alone cannot solve human problems, so it can only draw from the constitutional principles and try to preserve them for the present and the future. The law doesn't preach tolerance to one community, it proposes it as a universal principle. But if people and communities ignore that principle, you can't blame the law.

[@manteshsharma9351]

@@amoghavarsha5715 Mauryans destroyed Buddhist shrines? 😂 Ashoka, a Mauryan king, first emperor of India to adopt Buddhism. Chandragupta, first Mauryan King, adopted Jainism right before his death. You basically are trying to just shift the goal post because you can't defend the wrongs of past anymore given the political situation rn in the country. Added to that, Buddhism was state religion of Afghanistan in past, where are Buddhists of Afghanistan gone? Buddhism was state religion of Xinjiang, where are they now? Buddhism was prevalent in entire Central Asia, where are they now? Those who uprooted Buddhism everywhere recently tried doing same in another Buddhist country, Burma. This time Buddhists weren't as peaceful I suppose and attempt got failed. Next time you talk about Buddhism remember all these points as well!

[@VikramKumar-wd4dr]

kashi vishwanath temple and madhura krishna temple should be restored to its previous glory. There cannot be any compromise on it. If Supreme court does it, then, its all good. Otherwise we need other methods to do it. Supreme court can not hold random the faith of millions of people of this land. The historic injustice needs to be corrected.

[@ashutoshmayank6777]

Well said 👍

[@deeyarshree]

Shekhar there is a saying in Kerala that if a son slaps his mother in that situation also there will be two sets of people , one accusing and blaming the son for the act and the other supporting the son and blaming the mother , our Left parties and some so called elite media are the second category, you may know which side you stand , i keep my opinion to myself 😊

[@amanr7315]

1. Chadragupta maurya patronized Jainism. 2. Ashoka patronized Buddhism. 3. Shungas renovated Sanchi stupa, Satvahanas patronised buddhism. Ajanta and Ellora caves where jain, buddhist and Hindu temples exist side by side in harmony. While *Bakhtiyar* destroyed Nalanda university...... still the narrative is ..... hindu kings destroyed buddhist temples......

[@vm3306]

@@amanr7315 do u have proofs that hindu kings destroyed buddist temples. don't try to neutralize what mughals did to destroy hindu temples. so called secularism is sickularism.

[@vatsalraval]

Parlament passes law in '91 , u follow it religiously, but same parlamanent passes CAA and that u don't want to follow ! Hypocrites

[@PK-tt5kk]

CAA wasnt the problem itself, it was CAA + NRC which was extremely problematic. Especially for the millions of poor muslims who would find it extremely difficult to get proper documentation

[@vatsalraval]

@@PK-tt5kk so it's your POV ! Did you care about Hindus , 10 Million + RSS members who wants main 3 religious sights back , + more people like me who r not part of RSS but still want my Religions sights back ! Nah , at that time fabric of sickularism comes in between !

[@PK-tt5kk]

@@vatsalraval Yes I dont care about some stupid mosque or temple BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MATERIALLY EFFECT ANYONE !!! Look at ur priorities. This heritage nonsense is only going to effect the upper middle & rich Indians WHO HAVE THE TIME & MONEY , to go to these sites. Around 80 crore Indians need Government subsidies to survive. 500-700M live on just around Rs 300/day. CAA +NRC would have rendered those poor muslim lives STATELESS, The consequences on such families would be of magnitude of UNIMAGINABLE PROPORTION. Its not "sickularism" that made me against "CAA + NRC" BUT ITS MY CARE FOR A FELLOW HUMAN BEING. RELIGION IS JUST A MAN MADE CONSTRUCT. ALL HUMANS ARE THE SAME => U OR ME COULD HAVE BEEN BORN TO A MUSLIM FAMILY DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE ARE HUMANS.

[@K-CH-HimanshuThakur]

I have watched like 50 episodes of CTC. They are mostly good. Recently you did a CTC on IMF report on India GDP forecast and India Bangladesh per capital income. Now IMF has said that all earlier calculations were wrong as they were considering 94 rupees per dollar. Now India will achieve it in 2027 and India Per capital income will be higher than Bangladesh till 2027. It would be very great if you can update it in your next CTC episode.

[@arindamsardar3897]

@Ravitesh Kumar see Wikipedia imf change it's prediction

[@arindamsardar3897]

@Ranjeet Kumar yeh bhosdike pura chis nehi batata hai, india ka growth rate 2020 main negative tha isiliye bangladesh humshe age nikal gaya tha lekin ab india ka gdp per capita projection hai 2515 dollar or bangladesh ka hai 2364 dollar. Lekinn bangladesh agar base year change karle tho unka gdp per capita 2800 dollar ho jayega or india base year change karke khudka gdp per capita 3000 dollar dikha sakti hai

[@marinshibu8220]

Hahaha

[@A_Responsible_Citizen]

@@chandrakanthveluri9860 No, bcoz Modi government has decided slow down growth to make IMF wrong again 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mkrao100]

If the current turmoil continues for couple of years more half of the countries will be economically destroyed unfortunately Bangladesh will be no exception.

[@BharatBhumi2456]

In my opinion Hindus have every right to reclaim their places of worship . And don't be proud about fact that court and constitution is preventing Hindus from taking what is rightfully their. Your nation came into existence in 1947 but our civilization is eternal .

[@piyushgauba877]

I don't thing places of worship act is secular. Secularism doesn't mean you should forget history or historical injustice. And country also supports justice for historical wrong. Constitution give reservation to sc & st to rectify past wrongs. No national government or state government say we shouldn't take back are artifact's from British. No one gives excuse like there is crown made for kohinoor so we shouldn't take it or there is a museum made so we shouldn't take back our artifacts. But some so called secular say we shouldn't take our temple back because a mosque is made. I think we should discuss religious importance of land where mosque is made. One is lord Krishna birth place and the other one is one of the 12 jyotirlinga which is most sacred site for shiva devotees. It's stupid to assume that no dispute will occur after a stupid law is made.

[@allahkakafirbanda1939]

That act denies justice to India heritage. Should be challenged

[@A_Responsible_Citizen]

Constitution gave SC/ST reservation to uplift their status socially & economically, to mitigate the difference of generational wealth which they don't have. You fool.

[@akhiljames3435]

What about people who worship trees? All religious structures are made after clearing out trees. Can they go to court and challenge that historical wrong has been done against their beliefs? There are many tree worshipers in our country including some environmentalists.

[@aniketjagtap3803]

@@akhiljames3435 yes they can,they have right to do so but trees have limited life and they die and can grow again anywhere trees are not built they are grown

[@akhiljames3435]

One tree cut is one life taken away or for tree worshippers something sacred profaned. How is that any less than a man made structure?

[@lunatic_lad]

Our founding fathers did a huge mistake by adopting shaky grey foundation for India during Independence. I don't know where things will settle down.

[@rahulkundu6961]

Our founding father was busy with white womens and wanted to be global leader at the cost of Indian people.. We are paying for that since independence and we will pay for that till eternity.

[@MahiSpeaking]

Founding fathers are scared of minority n apologetic of their own roots

[@desibigfoot3874]

If you would only go through the proceedings of the constituent assembly, you would understand that they had discussed widely and taken wise choices. Blaming them for foolish actions of nehru-gandhi family or whatever they are called, is not fair. For example, Indira Gandhi introduced the word secular in the preamble. Ambedkar's drafting committee had clearly spelt out why they omitted the word secular in the first place.

[@AG-vb6vv]

They thought they could just rewrite history and whitewash Muslim oppression of Hindus, as if that will fix our current and existing grievances. All Hindus want is recognition of the past injustice and justice/reconciliation, by denying even the bare minimum recognition and promoting the myth of ‘Hindus and Muslims lived in peace before the British’ they just shut us down and increased our resentment and marginalisation. But we were the majority and our sentiments cannot indefinitely be ignored in a democracy, hence BJP today. We just demand recognition of history (be it historical wrongs and due respect to our martyrs eg Shivaj Maharaj). We also demand symbolic reparations such as Kashi and Mathura, which are ours by right anyways. These are simple and reasonable requests.

[@usdgreat6469]

mistake of 47.. 1. not having total popul... exchange during partition .... huge huge mistake ( it's a blunder ) 2.indus treaty (IWT) mistake .. learn from china , chinese don't have any treaty on boundary's nor they have any water treaty with india ...... whenever they feel like activate the issue , not having treaty gave them flexibility. 3. not following the market economy from day 1 .

[@farhan.zaheer]

I am a Pakistani living in Germany and I am listening to Gupta sahib regularly since he joined The Print. I am extremely happy to see that The Print subscriptions are now touching 2 million. What a journey Gupta sahib and The Print. Wish you guys all the best, South Asia needs more media outlets that do responsible journalism despite financial challenges

[@amartyaray]

Such problems may be approached by application of the following two principles: 1. The majority should conduct themselves with such tact that history is denied the opportunity to judge them as too feeble or too harsh - minorities should be handled thus! 2. In the context of India: Historical Grievance redressal requires reconciliation. The majority has displayed large-heartedness by keeping the country together for 75 years; it's the minority's turn to return what never belonged to them!

[@gomezmilkin340]

Lets all stop speaking Hindi because Hindi is essentially Sanskrit + Urdu, Pharsi, Arabic etc. Lol.

[@exponentialcomplexity3051]

@@aadilnaqvi4399 No one is stopping Muslims from leaving. There are more than 20 Islamic countries to choose from.

[@VenkatPrasad]

@@aadilnaqvi4399 If you want to leave, you are welcome to leave it for your own reasons. If you think this victimhood complex will continue to work then you are misplaced in your understanding. Anyways Pakistan and Bangladesh were made specifically for these reasons to accommodate those who cannot live with other religions. This is not a new question and the solutions are already delivered.

[@gopalshakti2026]

@@aadilnaqvi4399 Pakistan was created as a promised land for Muslims at least for Muslims of Indian subcontinent. If you want to live with your personal laws over the civil laws of the country you have a choice in Pakistan. Jews all over the world can go and settle in Israel their promised land. What stops Muslims ,who want to live with sharia laws to go and settle in Pakistan. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[@exponentialcomplexity3051]

@@gomezmilkin340 What logic is this? Urdu is derived from Hindi. Not other way round.

[@aananthanarayanan8853]

Thank God, finally at least one (non controversial) senior Editor openly admitted that both the historic and religious structures at Varanasi and Mathura were destroyed by the successive Mughal invaders. Thanks . This is why we respect you. 🙏🙏

[@manojgoel3910]

Let me enlighten you and your historian, invaders destroyed temples where they felt was more important to Hindus. Also it was not easy to destroy all temples as Hindus were no less in numbers, so pick and choose the most critical ones. You put whatever motives behind demolition, Hindu need to reclaim the temples and give a strong message to invaders that you did try to change our history, we will bring back our history

[@amanr7315]

1. Chadragupta maurya patronized Jainism. 2. Ashoka patronized Buddhism. 3. Shungas renovated Sanchi stupa, Satvahanas patronised buddhism. Ajanta and Ellora caves where jain, buddhist and Hindu temples exist side by side in harmony. While *Bakhtiyar* destroyed Nalanda university...... still the narrative is ..... hindu kings destroyed buddhist temples...........

[@KailashSingh-fm3vu]

If the mosque was built over a temple , then the temple must be restored. There should be no space for ifs and buts. Minority folks should rise above petty politics and come forward to help in restoring the temples. Majority community deserves appreciation for tolerating such a situation for the last 75 years since independence...

[@lubdub7913]

Laws can be changed ....Courts can be managed and history can be re-written!

[@shantanumundle7473]

your free speech also manageable

[@vatsalraval]

@@shantanumundle7473 but u r firm believer of constitution , that was ur fkn point ! Stoopid Malecha

[@MythicEcho]

@@shantanumundle7473 he is enjoying his freedom by bashing 😅😂😂

[@InsightGrid620]

History can be verified or rectified Culture can be reclaim. Roots can be rebuilt Rights can be raised

[@manteshsharma9351]

You're right. Histories were rewritten by radical islamo leftist historians like irfan Habib and Romila Thapar as soon as they got their hands on the system and academia. That has to rectified.

[@bhagwantchhabra]

It's interesting that you did not mention this well documented history in last years national interest on the same issue This is the problem unless the Hindu society is aggressive and unrelenting the liberal historians and journalists were unwilling to accept the country's true history. Hopefully now we can have a honest discussion within civil society and community and not force the Hindu community to take every emotional religious matter to court's

[@poodamakku]

Exactly Sir. Gupta Ji even said temple was demolished "as Hindu's believe" as if it is our belief that the gyanvapi mandir was demolished. These people are like this only. It is high time we all stay united

[@shashankkumar12]

@@poodamakku bhakto 😂😂

[@RahulKumar-tp4zr]

No doubt it is temple complex ....

[@Vizorfam]

So what?

[@RahulKumar-tp4zr]

@@Vizorfam we will take it

[@Vizorfam]

@@RahulKumar-tp4zr go ahead and try

[@janvysatya6595]

I'm an atheist but i think the place belongs to Shiva and should be given to Hindus.

[@foolio5588]

Just like Abdul Rahman baba (Sai Baba) belongs to muslims and it was darga untill 1960

[@alltradingsecrets2859]

@@foolio5588 hindus are happy to worship in dargah be it Shirdi or Ajmere. If only every one understand others feelings

[@SG-to4mf]

But. Isnt giving quotas to SC, STs and OBCs also retrogression then? They already have Article 15 enshrining their legal rights in the present isnt it? SO now would the Supreme Court tell the govvernment to end those quotas?

[@madhavtiwari1104]

No it is not, because one of the crucial criteria for quotas is social and economic backwardness as it exists today. It is not based on the notion of past injustices. In Indira Sawhney case 1978 Supreme Court held that quantifiable data has to be present proving the social backwardness of the community in order to avail reservations.

[@SG-to4mf]

@@madhavtiwari1104 If present social and economic backwardness is a criteria then Creamy and Non creamy layer separation as seen in OBCs today should be introduced for SCs and STs too? Is the Supreme Court going to tell that to the government?

[@JStratham-ym9fb]

@@madhavtiwari1104 half knowledge is dangerous pandit ji, aapni beijjati mat karao.

[@madhavtiwari1104]

@@SG-to4mf Social backwardness or as sociologist put it "ritual backwardness" is very difficult to overcome. Even if a Schedule Caste aquire job his social status remains that of an untouchable. There are many who wouldn't share good and water with him. But how's that relevant with mosque destruction narrative? Why you are trying so hard to justify a criminal act of destruction of others' places of worship? It seems that even 200 years of British rule has failed to civilze us.

[@madhavtiwari1104]

@@JStratham-ym9fb Wow great comeback! What a response.

[@manjulashanmugasundaram706]

It is so pleasing to see such wide acknowledgement of the fact that reservation is for correcting a historic wrong. I didn't know that so many people understand this.

[@sgmoments9909]

Maybe 4 years ago people did not understand it...but now because of the rise of the Indic wing (not right wing) a lot of content creators that understand this topic have risen and this topic of reservations and why it's necessary for the time being have been discussed enough times that people who are into politics understand it's needs. For atleast the next 2 generation( maybe till 2040) reservation is necessary for the upliftment of all the historically oppressed castes

[@maniaphobia4719]

An embarrassment in reservation system is , the Caste Hindus who truly oppressed the Dalits got reservation conveniently blaming the upper castes ; God and our Politicians only know , why economic backwardness can not be the criterion for Reservation ;

[@akhiljames3435]

Reservation is not beneficial to bring up the lower castes as per data. The real reason why Reservation is not removed yet is because winning elections is more important than developing the country for all parties.

[@advaitr7582]

This 1991 law was passed by our secular/ Muslim vote bank parties completely overlooking the majority people faith and beliefs.They built the same narrative (Anti Hindu)even after Independence. If such law can be passed, same such law can be repealed(if required) as majority wins in democracy (whether in 1991, or now or in future). If temple is NOT built (which were destroyed), India will be the ONLY country in the World where Majority people's beliefs (opinions) are not considered (and they will be in fact minority). Can we show another country in this world where this kind of secularism works( using Muslims for Votes, supporting their acts at the cost of Hindu votes and criticizing Hindus or their temples/beliefs)? Every one has to think.

[@YT-lx9ry]

just follow the footsteps of Kashmiri Muslim and Tamil Nadu DMK. Kashmiri Muslim destroyed 23000 temples and DMK/DK destroyed 2 temples, They did not follow or care about the 1991 law. Sometimes the only way to assert is to assert.

[@AG-vb6vv]

What was written into law by man can surely be unwritten.. and I hope it will, should BJP grow balls. We aren’t demanding our 40,000 temples ffs, we just want our Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura - screw Islamists and pseudo secularists, this is not a request, it is our right and by our Dharma, we shall have it!

[@drjimmyperth3911]

why were there crusades and why is the USA fighting with Russia?? For their values. We Hindus are also fighting for our values. Everywhere in the world religion was propagated by political leaders/Kings for political reasons.

[@reallyrudi91]

The crusades were less about religion and more about greedy European city states and rulers attempt to land grab a weak Byzantine empires' lucrative trade posts in the east.

[@akhiljames3435]

None of your cited examples was applied retrospectively. Crusades happened when the Islamic kings were invading and still ruling, not 600 years after their death.

[@maheshdocherla]

Two corrections. I am from Andhra Pradesh and however historians on both sides of the debate have agreed that Aurangzeb destroyed the temple, the muslims over here absolutely deny it. Whatever historians say does not matter when they cannot convince the community about it and the community only believes what their religious leaders and politicians say. That is where the whole crux of the conflict lies and which is going to worsen the situation. If their religious leaders tell them that the historians are lying or the government is lying or the courts are lying and it is only their God that is truthful and hence, as his representative, what they is the truth, then it is going to be a violent conflict. Second, as far as my knowledge goes, Dharmendra is originally a Sikh and Hemamalini a Tamil Brahmin. Dharmendra's first wife [mother of Sunny & Bobby Deol] refused to grant him divorce to marry Hemamalini. And hence, in order to circumvent the law, both Dharmendra & Hemamalini converted to Islam and as per the Muslim Personal Law, Dharmendra could have 2 wives and hence, got married to Hemamalini. You might remember a similar incident about 5 years ago done by a Haryana Hindu politician, who converted to Islam, to marry another woman without divorcing his first wife? So, both Dharmendra & Hemamalini are covertly muslims because I have not read anywhere that they did a Ghar Wapsi and if they do, then Dharmendra is in legal trouble for polygamy.

[@abhishekbhosale3495]

Gupta ji..if Article 370 can go even places of worship act can go...Judiciary was there even on 06th Dec 1992...we know what happened.. Har Har Mahadev

[@akhiljames3435]

Yes thats why this country is still struggling, the rule books are made to play on the whims of the people. Rather than people being made to obey the rules.

[@adarshpandey8657]

Reconciliation by Muslim community , giving back hindus the mathura and Kashi Temples is the need of the hour.

[@therahulrs]

There's a case that you can relocate the mosque (like how Abu Simbel in Aswan Egypt was), and a Hindu temple be built. There's no expectation that the mosque structure be sacrosanct in Islam, but to give the land to Hindus would be a grand gesture in the best traditions of truth and reconciliation

[@AG-vb6vv]

If Muslims would just give Kashi and Mathura in such a way, you know so many problems will be solved. Talk about harmony, well this would be poster child. Perhaps many secular Muslims are willing but the Islamist supremacist bigots who control the Muslims will never accept, in their minds they have rightful rule over India and any corner given to Hindus is an affront to the glory of Islam. Perhaps secular and moderate Muslims would compel them to do such a gesture but the Hinduohobic pseudo secular elements give Islamists credibility and support in their facist anti Hindu stances. This is why I always maintain, the greatest enemy of Hindu Dharma is not the Islamist, it’s the Nehruvian pseudo secular atheist.

[@kiranmaddu8006]

Another wonderful episode and information as usual. 1. We cannot judge every aspect of 16th and 17th century - with a 21st century mindset and humanitarian values - we don’t how we would behave if you and I were in the position of conqueror 2. Is our interest is all about history and grievances or are we trying to affirm our political affiliation and satisfy our political favoritism. We progressed in many fronts as a nation - but it looks we are stuck in few aspects - conflation of conspiracies from all corners.

[@msllma4449]

While you are partly correct...you fail to realize symbolism also plays a huge role in a nation's development. These temples turned into mosque is no just about the structure it's about colonizing the minds of the Hindus. If a nation wants to overturn such symbols of colonization what is the harm? No nation should be forced to continue to accept such symbols of slavery.

[@kiranmaddu8006]

@@msllma4449 Symbolism and sloganeering help when the nation is in Crisis - The Fourth Turning, by William Strauss. Symbolism and sloganeering - in a stable time mostly reflect polarization and majoritarian mindsets. If you think this is helping to build a better nation - what else do we want. But I believe in a different philosophy - with such a huge population and hard-working people we are going to shine anyway. Culturally I do not belong to subcontinent philosophy - but I believe we are a key part of changing world order. Like colonization - this is also inevitable.

[@trshams575]

The Print is self certified ALL KNOWING and has direct knowledge of every happening. The Print Gupta is majorly confused and is confusing others. Conundrum is his state of thinking and of course mind.

[@manshuraiagarwal1766]

Shekhar I will not buy into the shivani angle as shivaji escaped in 1666 and destruction took place in 1669.

[@libshastra]

"TV debates .... It doesn't make us any wiser". Mainstream Indian news media makes us dumber to be honest.

[@Vizorfam]

Thanks to godi media funded by hindutva people

[@Contractor48]

Well they didn't during the kashmiri pandit's genocide and look what happened. The entire country remained mum.

[@Contractor48]

@@rahulkundu6961 did the right wing protest and came out in the street. Why was there no bandh and massive protest!? Those poor people were ignored by Hindu groups as well.

[@rahulkundu6961]

@@Contractor48 Right wing gained momentum in just last few years... Leftists and their ecosystem way too strong in India. But now Left has no future in India. Its the Right wing who promoted Kashmir files.. although i admit we still need to do more.

[@Contractor48]

@Ravitesh Kumar dumbo my curd rice is more intense than the right wing's response. Only after pm Modi started becoming more powerful the right wing came on a good track. Dumbo, quote the response of RSS along with source in comment.

[@ramsal123]

Please don’t justify for all the bad deeds done by Mughals against Hindu temples

[@InsightGrid620]

Inka kam hin yeh hy🙄

[@krishnaxyz]

@Shekhar ji, my points. 1. In letter and spirit, POW act prohibits any citizen to go to court if he finds his mosque/ church/ temple was usurped by individual/ system/ organization. It snatches right to seek remedy from court of the land. 2. This is refreshing to note that atleast historical facts (notwithstanding it's secular, left and right leaning interpretation of motive may be) acknowledges that the temple was damaged to build a mosque. Atleast every side must accept the reality. Acceptance of facts known so far is important to avoid foolish statements. 3. Whether it's lingam or fountain, it's good chance to understand it using carbon dating of structure.

[@youttt27]

How can it be a fountain if there’s no water outlet? Why would a fountain head be buried under waterlevel?

[@sanjayfab]

On one hand we have the laws, on the other , and more importantly, justice. There are a few Temples intrinsic to the Hindu faith since centuries. I believe that the Muslim community should amicably hand over these , in the true spirit of secularism , and this gesture will go a long way in securing a peaceful future. It will not only correct the wrongs of the past, but also give a positive message.

[@amanr7315]

1. Chadragupta maurya patronized Jainism. 2. Ashoka patronized Buddhism. 3. Shungas renovated Sanchi stupa, Satvahanas patronised buddhism. Ajanta and Ellora caves where jain, buddhist and Hindu temples exist side by side in harmony. While *Bakhtiyar* destroyed Nalanda university...... still the narrative is ..... hindu kings destroyed buddhist temples......

[@mandy28887]

Richard Eaton doesnt know Sanskrit, his references are based on picking and choosing first hand translations from other authors. I expect the next Cut the Clutter to be based on primary source material. 2. Aurangzeb wanted to be recognized as a leader of Islam. That is why his Fatawi i Alamgiri proclaims to destroy every non Islamic temple in India. The fact that we dont find one remnant Hindu Temple North of Ujjain and not in Varanasi which was defended stoutly by Hindus is an example of the success of that Fatwa. 3. The rebellions happening during Aurangzebs rule was nothing if not religious in nature. 4. The Places of Worship act is highly controversial. The essence of our nation today stands tarnished because of our denial of history.

[@dhananjaygurjar]

As Dr Vikram Sampath said on your show, let us have the courage to face the true history. Let's assume the mosque remains as a mosque. But why can't we have an information board outside the mosque (& in a genocide museum if we ever build one) detailing the destruction of the temple? Similar truthful narratives can be placed at ALL places of worships desecrated by the foreign invaders who ruled India. This would still uphold the 1991 law, but also acknowledge the oppression suffered by Hindus. After all, our national emblem does say "Satyamev Jayate ".

[@suchender801]

If it's established that temple existed in Gyanvapi mosque by the court enquiry, I don't think even SC can stop it being reclaimed for temple. Afterall, public opinion is way stronger than any court of law just like Sabarimala verdict was rejected. Ultimate solution has to come from the public itself as like it or not, religion does transcend Constitutional values in reality.

[@desibigfoot3874]

I don't think courts have that sort of prestige to bend public opinion. We all know what they did in the run up to IG declared emergency.

[@kukulkhaan]

Like how public opinion was taken in account while illegally stripping away the statehood of JK + taking away basic human rights enshrined in constitution, making people realise that in india politics and majority opinion/feeling is above constitution. Alas, india is becoming a theocracy day by day, slowly but surely... Holy supreme court has the power to turn back time, so supreme... 😂

[@sagarjackie7366]

Preamble of the Constitution is opposed to the teachings of the Qur'an.

[@chiragmehta2612]

Shekhar ji, it’s quite funny that you calling the communist, Marxist historians as ‘Secular Historians’ however you labeled the other side as ‘Hindu Historians’. With due respect, it wasn’t fair at your end.

[@STPT-SaiBaba]

Supreme Court, I believe, has also said that Mosque (like Hijab) is not an intrinsic part of the Islam. Hear what Mehbooba Mufti said, for us where we sit for Sajda is our mosque.

[@pharaohakhneton9553]

In view of complexity of the matter, it is desirable that an expert consisting of specialists from various disciplines such as history,archeology, architecture, religious iconography etc, should be formed to arrive at an indisputable conclusion. .3). It will also be better,if the scope of the committee is widened to study all similar cases ,so that such controversies can be settled once for all.2). It is the age of specification. So, such issues can left at the hands of amateur , half-baked historians, sentimental,emotional people on both sides, who draw their knowledge not directly from the original sources, but from what's appropriate university and who can be driven to frenzy by opportunistic politicians and religious fanatics. 3). What ultimately matters is that citizens of this country should know the truth. Is not 'Satyameva Jayate' our motto?. So, Truth, not the political opportunism, must prevail.Then the Court can arbitrate in the matter. Let the Truth lead us.

[@nikkhilkalia4512]

I had been waiting for this since quite some time! Thank you, SG

[@gyropyro]

2:40 with respect @Shekhar Gupta sir, you are describing Aurangzeb to be "Wahhabi" but he died in 1707 CE, while Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb founder of Wahhabism was born in 1703 CE.

[@arthurconandoyle6531]

Extremist bastards are all same auranzeb or wahhab

[@amanshukla8758]

To be honest SG, while I understand that you worry about the rise of Islamophobia in India after these cases, and I worry about it as well because these cases will certainly be misused by Hindutva groups for hate mongering, but I will never take for granted the fact that a significant number of temples were destroyed in North India. Destroying a place of worship, be it a temple or a mosque or a church or anything, is indefensible, and if the aggrieved community wants reparations or justice of some sort, it must be given. I don't really think it's good for any of us to compromise on our secular values just to get a certificate of "liberalism" from BBC or NYT or Economist. I'm a liberal myself but I can't see how this obvious fact about temples being destroyed in the past can be taken for granted by anyone who calls himself/herself a liberal minded person PS: This is not a critique of your journalism, I do regularly follow you and I really like your work, I'm just stating my opinion here

[@edytha2090]

Completely agree with you

[@sravaniyadavalli1359]

I agree with you. Loudspeakers, processions near mosques are political and cause religious divisions so could've been avoided for harmony. But the destroyed temples are our cultural history. This might cause a religious clashes at the moment but in the long term our history should be preserved that's more significant.

[@ekkax]

This semntiment presence is certainly undeniable to any Indian.However in larger picture, question is to what end it will go.There is a never ending list.After certain point it looses it just justice sentiment and start meaning an assault to other religions.

[@sujithkumar2041]

Then the question that should be answered is how far in history we are ready to go? As new evidence comes out about our past new ‘invaders’ and new places will be identified. And you want a society busy digging past to keep claim to rights and places?

[@PK-tt5kk]

Its funny how we are looking for injustices done in the past instead of the massive injustices happening right now. And these injustices are not just of someone's sentiments but actually effect them. India north region is one of the most poorest regions in the world (UP , Bihar etc) The poor in India live pathetic lives to say the least. One metric i read somewhere( not fully sure of its authenticity) around 80 crore Indians receive food subsidy. So our economy is so pathetic that 57% of Indians cant even get a decent job to feed themselves. The high unemployment is destroying the lives of Millions of Young indians. lakhs of cases of murder, rape & theft never get any justice. AND HERE WE ARE TALKING OF SOME SENTIMENTS HURT OF THE ELITE INDIANS. Yes only elite because most poor & lower middle class have no time & money to even bother about these issues. And in India most people are lower middle class, a tiny are middle & richer

[@Heyar..]

Stop covering a cult religion in the name of being secular. We need face it headon.. it’s not Hindu claim it’s the people of Bharath..

[@PK-tt5kk]

Its funny how we are looking for injustices done in the past instead of the massive injustices happening right now. And these injustices are not just of someone's sentiments but they actually effect them. India's north region is one of the most poorest regions in the world (UP , Bihar etc) The poor in India live pathetic lives to say the least. One metric i read somewhere( not fully sure of its authenticity) around 80 crore Indians receive food subsidy. So our economy is so pathetic that 57% of Indians cant even get a decent job to feed themselves. The high unemployment is destroying the lives of Millions of Young Indians. lakhs of cases of murder, rape & theft never get any justice. AND HERE WE ARE TALKING OF SOME SENTIMENTS HURT OF THE ELITE INDIANS. Yes only elite because most poor & lower middle class have no time & money to even bother about these issues. And in India most people are lower middle class, a tiny are middle & richer

[@sb9060]

A 1991-Law, enacted *44 years after independence in 1947* should be deemed as the *epitome of basic structure of Indian Constitution* . Ambedhkar , Nehru , Gandhi forgot to legislate the 1991-law in the interests of defining the basic structure of the constitution at the time of framing the constitution ! Moreover, the 1991-Law should have been in the preamble of Indian constitution back in 1948 for the shaping and preservation of the basic structure of Indian constitution... Shame on Nehru !!! PV Narashima Rao, in 1991, is the sole legislator who understood what the basic structure of the constitution of India should have been .... But Congress and it's AICC never praised or acknowledged PV Narashima Rao !!! NDTV, India Today, The Print should have done a video, may be a documentary on that... Court should have also no business in interpreting nature of the structure of worship after the enactment of that 1991-Act.🙏 *Freedom of a nation should mean freedom from historical cultural embarrassing memories of truths for the sake of societal harmony and basic structure of 1991 of the constitution* . 🤔😑🙄😏 Historical wrongs should be preserved for sake of equality and future. *Equality in terms of religious places had existed only on the very date of 15.08.1947* , not even on the date of 26.11.1949 or on 26.01.1950 which is the day on which Indian constitution came into force.😎

[@sathvikvarmakutcharlapati5004]

I m not a fan of nehru or congress, but basic structure doctrine came into existence after 1973 kesavananda bharati case, I don't think it is fair to blame nehru,ambedkar, etc on basic structure thing

[@sb9060]

@@sathvikvarmakutcharlapati5004 The term basic structure was introduced by the Supreme Court to have a check n balance over the legislature. *It would be weird if someone proposes that there wasn't any basic structure of the constitution before 1973 or judgement of Meenarva Mill Case 1980* . Only interpretation and constitutional validity are upon the jurisprudence of the Apex court. It's very interesting though basic structure has never been well defined. It has been left to evolving conscience and values of the day and again subject to the interpretation of the Zenith court. I mean all those who have are of the notion that the Constituent Assembly of 1946 was framing the constitution without the basic structure are needed to go through an immediate training of modern jurisprudence based on scientific approach. The world has shifted from analogue to digital and from Newtonian to Quantum.

[@sathvikvarmakutcharlapati5004]

Again, your argument of freedom from historical cultural embarrassing memories for the sake of societal harmony is true only when muslim acknowledge the historical wrongs done by them and accept the history and then talk of religious harmony and place of worship. It is unfair and injustice when a majority here hindu oppressed by minority Muslim for hundreds of years and demolish their places of worship and then after democracy was established minority muslim boast up as how they oppressed and demolished temples and when retaliated by Hindu majority, play victim card as being minority and oppressed.

[@sathvikvarmakutcharlapati5004]

I would like ask you a hypothetical question, in 1950 when concept of resevation was provided in constitution for historical worngs done on SC, ST was opposed by others castes that equality is fine but not reservations then will give the same argument that freedom from historical cultural memories for the sake of societal harmony. When the oppressing minority that is higher castes accept the special previlige to SC,ST by acknowledging their historical wrongs why can't oppressing minority that is Muslim here. Haven't you seen Akbaruddin Owaisi visiting aurangazeb tomb and offering respect during these sensitive situation, do sense any feeling of regret from Muslim leaders or major chunk of muslims that they have humiliated Hindus, your argument is progressive and democratic but Muslims in subcontinent have mastered the art of being oppressor and oppressed at same time and plead for justice playing victim

[@sb9060]

@@sathvikvarmakutcharlapati5004 Bhai my comments would certainly serve for the conscience of many I believe. That's why my comments embedded in sarcasm are for others , not for people like u having the scientific conscience already.

[@amitsarkar3019]

This historic fact is injustice. Injustice being 353 years old, does not become justice. Rather it's shameful that even after 75 years of independence justice has not been provided to the victims. The area need to be returned to the original owner. If necessary, 1991 Act, need to be withdrawn. Truth & justice must prevail.

[@atulpandey2406]

This is the the that people love shekhar Ji's explanation. Cut the clutter 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👏👏

[@Rajan112358]

this is sad, print only likes positive comments, what about all these comments who disagree with you, someone said modiji should take questions from reporters, when will Indian editors start taking tough questions?

[@atulpandey2406]

@@Rajan112358 those who likes unbiased and fact based reporting comes to the print and the print too like them mistakes can be committed by both sides but the print usually did unbiased without left or communal like Rana ayyube or right like arnab goswami. That is why people like the print.

[@Rajan112358]

@@atulpandey2406 Bhai, I love print as well, but the biggest threat to unbiased reporting is certainly not Rana Ayub or Arnab Goswami, because they are openly biased. if a channel claims unbiased opinions, and reports something with personal opinion tilting towards one side, it is bound to get flake from the other side. it can though acknowledge the other opinion, just as in this video, Shekharji can have his own opinion, I don't question his right to have a view or his view, I am questioning him only acknowledging comments which support his view, while the majority of comments disagree with him, still, the print is ignoring them... I want the print to acknowledge its viewer's views and at least engage with them, while they can explain their personal view. What's happening is print is only taking questions that are not that tough.

[@ShrikantMarathe]

Shekhar ji Very nicely captured. You will umpteen examples of looking at the past jeopardising the present and future. Future should be aimed at improving the standard of living of our masses and take them above the poverty line This will bring happiness to those masses

[@anjalidesai3630]

if India is a democratic country, then how come religious majority is unable to get what they want from a majority party ruling parliament? why are Hindus having to go to courts and keep establishing simple facts like astha. If its a fact that mandir was destroyed, if it cannot be refuted, then hand it over to the rightful owners, the Hindus. Secularism is a 2 way street.

[@biswanathmahapatra8441]

If we have well documeu history that Aurangzeb destroyed two of the most important Religious places of Hindus...why haven't we rebuilt them later on jus like Somnath...even after independence...is it coz of the Congress Muslim appeasement policy.... If we clearly know what is justice and which side is victim...why can court provide the verdict? Jus curious

[@shodhitgoyal6539]

Internet trolls are the reason why so many people hate islam in this world,' lingam' is a sansrit word which means (symbol). And thus shiva lingam means a symbol of shiv or a form of shiv . Thats why in sanskrit pulling means a male, streeling means a female , shivling means a form of shiva .😂. People need to get educated about this misunderstanding.

[@111prab]

When you support the demands from colonial rulers like UK to apologize for massacres like Jalianwala Bagh then it's the same thing one wants to do - to make things right which were wrongly done by someone so why can't one ask for land or property owned by Mughals Or colonial powers?

[@adityarajchauhan7949]

Those who forget the past , don't possess the experience to course correct in future. Our Past was so glorious was so magnanimous that our present is nothing in front of it , Our country contributed 30% of Global GDP in 1700.

[@dhruvmarwah4641]

Iol! I think there is another way of looking at this, those who focus too much on the past for them history will keep repeating itself.

[@akhiljames3435]

Those who live in the past, never live.

[@PK-tt5kk]

u do realize that in the past most economies were agricultural & thus GDP size was just a reflection of having wast agricultural lands which intern helps sustain a large population which intern gives a big GDP There is a reason why India & China together contribute have 40% to the worlds population

[@trshams575]

The Print came up with the following on Twitter “ Giant statues of Hindu Gods and leaders are making Muslims in India nervous”. The Print is confused to say the least.!

[@ashokd6131]

beautiful picture of Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj......very handsome King

[@akshitdadhwal]

The mosque at gyanvapi doesn't signifies secularism but it signifies dominance of one faith over other ..When everyone know that it was a temple and was destroyed by Aurangzeb..then muslims should vacate this place ..this would be best thing for the country .. why are they fighting the legal battle .. why secularism is always the responsibility of Hindus ..

[@hj-fc7wt]

these dumb are arguing about whats inside, when you can clearly see ki masjid ka adha part to mandir hai bhar bahr say firr bhi dibate karahen hain ki masjid hai

[@GG-pe4kz]

Sir I just have a simple question/doubt, we can assume the fact that destroying and building a structure like temple or mosque takes long time in those era of time then If the monarch was trying to stomp the possible rebellion against him then don’t you think this might fuel the further possible rebellion ????

[@jababathhehut2923]

No

[@os-vp1hv]

This is new theory of intelligent hindu.

[@vinushrenik]

So the monarch not only wanted to quell the rebellion but also wanted to humiliate the rebels by demolising their most important and venerable shrine. Now today's muslims love this monarch and they have the same mentality of humiliating Hindus and want to establish that they are much much superior to Hindus. This attitude of present day muslims have to be countered. Present day Hindus have awakened and are no more meek and coward as our forefathers were when India was partitioned in 1947. No more bullying of muslims will be tolerated.

[@os-vp1hv]

@@vinushrenik I don't know which Hindu you are talking. During 17 century 90% of present day hindus are not able to enter temple (either shudhra or avarna) this present Hinduism is a new religion and so they want make fabulous fake history. Am from Kerala it is never ruled by non Hindu ruler. I can't find nothing made by earlier rulers, everything is made after British arrival. Hindus doesn't have any thing remarkable.

[@manteshsharma9351]

Sikh Gurus were more pious more sacred to any Sikh (and beyond) than any temple Gurudwara or anything. If those radical fanatics could order their death to "teach a lesson" to rebels in past then what would stop them from destroying temples! They could impose jaziya, declare us second class citizens in our own land, had the audacity to commit genocides of our ancestors and still get a place in our history. That's little too much to ask for from us anymore I suppose. Btw your "simple question" is as stupid as claiming earth to be flat. There's no dispute among historians of any side over the fact that temple was destroyed. But if certain people could believe that earth was flat, they can believe anything. Good luck!

[@nrusimha11]

I believe Shri Gupta speaks with good intentions. But you can't defend the indefensible and you can't dress up a wound before washing and cleaning it. Uma Bharati spoke in 1991 of the consequences (reported in today's Indian Express). We need reconciliation - irrigating and cleaning the wounds is part of it.

[@hiteshkumar3268]

In india 🇮🇳 1st thing we need to have is TRUTH & RECONCILIATION ACT , we don’t have religious conflict , in fact it’s the cultural conflict between Hindus and Abrahamic religions. People of Indian subcontinent are emotional, religious, no wonder muslims of subcontinent are being more radicalized. No wonder muslims like Gori, Ghazni , auragazeb & Abdali were as Hindus hate them . We also need to consider the fact that their are many Muslim countries in the world , but hardly any Hindu country which are India 🇮🇳 Nepal 🇳🇵 and all important places of worship in Hinduism are in india which are Ram temple in Ayodya, Kashi vishwanath in varanasi, Krishna temple in Meerut. And somnath temple , all this important temples were destroyed.

[@sprashere]

I am so torn on this. Do I want to restore the pride of my religion and correct history, or do I let it go and prevent a potentially fractured society in future. The latter is probably what my religion dictates, but will that be exploited as it has been pre-BJP? Ayodhya has already been settled so I guess the point has been made. Do I really need these other corrections as well? What’s the middle ground?

[@vaibhavsingh-bz1xf]

middle ground is muslims realise that they are wrong and return the historic temples back

[@vatsalraval]

Middle ground was given in 80s that RSS came on table and asked for 9-10 major temples back but Muslims denied to it ! Now tell me why can't they compromise ? And if they don't thn fk them , we r coming to get what belongs to us being under constitution ! But if even constitution denies us thn revolution is coming , get ready for this Sickulars

[@onlyghilli]

Narasimha Rao is most secular congressman which now congress disowns !

[@SAM-yj5io]

Haha.... That's the funny part. No Congressi especially the chamchaas of the first family of Congress boldly say that a Congressman, PV Narasimha Rao got the Places of Worship Act passed. They would like to give credit for that also to Rajiv Gandhi & Indira Gandhi...

[@Deveshi.A.]

But Kashi Vishwanath temple is not just any other place , it is holiest of Holy city to hindus

[@dwarasamudra8889]

yes, its one of the 12 jyotirlings, not just a random temple. its like Mahabodhi for Buddhists, Mecca for Muslims, Vatican for Christians.

[@sushantkumar4917]

Mere hi desh me, Jb Mera hi mandir Tod kar, Jb Mere hi logo dwara likha hua, Jb Mere hi constitution, Jb Mere hi khilaf bolta h, Tb mujhe bht dukh hota h #secularism

[@saranathantg]

Thanks for a good clarification on the issue

[@shubhamkumarjha3426]

The reason why I liked shekhar Gupta is that he does not emphasize on just one sided view he gives both sided view

[@OnkarShrma]

Well 1991 is law passed by parliament. So it can also be reversed by parliament. It's not a Constitutional issue. So there is no wrong if today's parliament want to change this law.

[@satyamchaudhary2752]

Injustice and Peace cannot co-exist.

[@danbhide3816]

If a law can be made in 1991 then it can also be amended or scrapped and a new law enacted in 2022. Judicial pronouncements can also be negated with a law. That is called peoples' will.

[@maliniramabadran2232]

Hi Shekar pls declutter the issue of govt controlling temples the reason and also recent AP high court judgement freeing temples from govt hold. Thank you so much.

[@gargoyle2187]

I disagree with Shekhar Ji. The changes in the POW Act is not required since the Gyanvapi temple is protected under Section 4 3 Clause A. Please read.

[@adarshpandey8657]

Even 1991 act doesn't say that state can't take action . Right to worship at a particular place is fundamental not places of worship.