Undertale: Your Last Friend - A Conceptualized Genocide Run Flowey Battle Theme (Original)

[@zawdan606]

I know that Final in the title is supposed to be a reference to Finale, but I think Your Last Friend or Only Friend Left would be a better title

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

You know what? I agree

[@chuckles2364]

and so it was cooked.

[@chuckles2364]

like in a good way. i'm saying you cooked with the title. i forgot cooked can mean two entirely different things depending on how you say it.

[@phoenix12409]

You did cook there

[@RolineOverlord]

Naaaah, Final Foe sounds better, because he literally IS, the final foe.

[@Koe-6688]

flowey realising he actually doesnt have to just sit there and die at the end of genocide:

[@Idontknowwhattowrite150]

Flowey realizing that if Sans can abuse battle mechanics, he himself should be able to do so to a higher degree

[@gamercentral2417]

@@Idontknowwhattowrite150sadly not. As he’s a variation of the literal player

[@Idontknowwhattowrite150]

@@gamercentral2417 no ? He USED to be a “Player” but now he no longer is, as Frisk has overridden his DT. Flowey should be able to engage in a Battle, and thus mess with it in his favor given he’s more aware of the “meta/rules” than Sans (he’s aware enough to talk to us after an ending, which Sans can’t unless with a phone call)

[@gamercentral2417]

@@Idontknowwhattowrite150 funny. But frisk one shots anyways. Literally ONLY sans can dodge. If flowey could dodge then they would escape during Genocide. It’s clear flowey cannot go underground during battle, and had to use other means to travel in the surface

[@TheOldPretender-vy2wy]

​​@@gamercentral2417feel like flowey could sink undergound to avoid the attack but after killing asgore to won the human favor he was just too distraught to do so still normal flowey almost murder Frisk a couple times he could shrink the battle box down and surrounded it with friendliness pellet frisk would died before they could reach for the fight button if frisk resprawn they will just get trapped and die again

[@EEE.654]

flowey's dumbass remembering he can spam an undodgable attack as many times as he wants

[@YourAverageMasochist]

He doesn’t do this as it would leave him open to be killed in one attack and frisk/chara could just keep coming back anyways so there’s no point doing do.

[@EEE.654]

@@YourAverageMasochist flowey most definitely knows how to cheat the system, maybe better than sans does. who says he can't take the first turn everytime and just spam an attack until you die over and over? the human would have to realize there's no way out of that eventually

[@YourAverageMasochist]

@EEE.654 sans thought the same with his special attack but it will have to be our turn eventually and we can also cheat flowey is well aware of this as seen in undertale yellows genocide route he knows there’s 0 point in doing it considering we have more determination than him so he gives up and lets himself be attacked :TLDR we can also cheat to land a hit

[@EEE.654]

@@YourAverageMasochist late reply but the difference between sans and flowey is that sans fell asleep, essentially letting you get to the fight button. flowey isn't that stupid. he's not gonna LET you hit him. also you can't use undertale yellow flowey as an argument because uty is a fangame. that's like saying toriel is evil because you read it in a fanfiction. plus, flowey'll just keep killing you everytime you come back. he's definitely shown to be willing and capable of doing it one million times, in his own words, and that was just to stave off boredom. when it comes to life or permanent death, flowey's definitely gonna kill you. his motto is kill or be killed for a reason. he already died once because he refused to defend himself, it's why he adopted that mentality in the first place. TLDR: no, you can't, because flowey's not stupid enough to give you the opportunity to cheat

[@YourAverageMasochist]

@@EEE.654 Mb undertale yellow was so good I forgot it was a fan game. Anyways we are way too strong for flowery to kill us in one attack even if he spams unfair attacks we would still get our turn before he is able to kill us allowing us to get a hit in and even if he could flowey would eventually go insane he would be testing his determination against ours who can keep going for longer and we have more determination we would win in that battle and if flowey were to make one mistake he loses 1 is all a lv 20 frisk/chara need to put him down flowey would need the help of an outside source to stand any chance.

[@vern904]

*Golly! You've been busy huh? *Asgore wouldn't let me absorb all of the souls... but I did get ONE. *See Chara... you're scaring me quite a bit. *And now with this soul inside of me... *My compassion is back. *This SOUL wriggling inside of me... *They want to stop you as much as everyone else did *And unlike smiley trashbag would... I won't tire out ;p *I can't really let you pass. *I am the Prince of this world, and I will protect it.

[@DeterminedBlade]

It would be cool if they got Clover so they could work together against you

[@User_cualquierA]

Oh My god that would be actually so cool ​@@DeterminedBlade

[@numerousbees12]

peak

[@raythegamer8860]

@@DeterminedBlade Out of every other soul, the Justice soul is guaranteed to fight back against Frisk. That's a perfect idea

[@AnimatingBeats]

@@DeterminedBlade That would be so coooooooooool!

[@cwhgaming6051]

* Howdy, Chara! * It’s me! Your best friend! Flowey! Flowey the flower! * Good day for a slaughter, isn’t it? * … * Stop… * Stop with that face! * You’re freaking me out here. *FIGHT* *Flowey dodges* * Chara… * Remember when I said it’s kill or be killed? * Well… * I’d rather kill than be killed by someone like you. * So… * It was nice knowing you. *Smells like unseen fear* *Fight dialogue* * You really want everyone dead, do you? * What’s with the face? Surely you’ve seen this happen before, haven’t you? *Last one* * I know how powerful you are right now. I know that if I take a single hit from you, I’ll be dead, just like them. *Never was your friend.* * You know, before you came along, I was obsessed with murder too! * But honestly, playing victim isn’t a fun game. *Kill him* * When I first saw you Chara, I thought I knew you. * But now, I’m not too sure. * does any of that even matter now, though? *…* * Honestly, I might be being hypocritical here, but what’s the fun in killing? *He’s scared.* * Come on Chara, remember the good ol’ times? *There were never good times* * No… * Heh, should’ve realised it myself earlier. * You aren’t even Chara. You’re just a downright despicable monster. *A monster…* * I hate to agree with smiley trashbag, but yeah. * Why do they call *us* monsters? *He’s getting tired.* * Hey human, how about a break from this? *The smell of sap fills the air* * Is this really what you want? * For everyone to be dead? *Despicable?* * Really, this is just getting harder, human. * Why don’t you come a get a few friendliness pellets? *The fragrance of imminent death fills the air* * Really, why are you so bent on kill- *FIGHT* * Heh… playing dirty… like what you did to The King and Smiley Trashbag… * I guess I say I didn’t want this…

[@isaiahperez5719]

This is pretty good 👍

[@SammichUwU]

* Friendliness Pellets fill the air. * 1 Left. * Determination. * He's scared.

[@Zedryx69]

* It's hard to breathe.

[@nopenuhuhthankyouno]

* You have an obligation. * With no soul, what comes when you die? * Lets find out. * You can hear something collapsing far away faintly. * Ozone and Friendliness Pellets fill the air. * The Angel has come down.

[@joshuapohle6909]

Never tried this before but here goes: Check: Flowey - ATK 100 DEF 90 - Empowered by Asgore's SOUL, would call you his best friend but he knows better. Hehe, not impressed? Just wait until I REALLY get started! (Either does his stereotypical evil face or his winking face) Flavour Text: * Now who's the one with the stolen soul? * The air hums with friendliness pellets. * Smells like DETERMINATION. * Keep Attacking. * Uproot this weed. * You could make some nice tea out of him. * Smells like fresh cut grass. * 1 LEFT = ) * Determination. * It seems your journey is finally over. * Topple his facade. * He always was a crybaby. * Flowey subtly tries to nudge the FIGHT button off-screen. * A killer like us, in our way. * The Prince of a crumbling world. * Flowey's body grows stiffer. * His dodging grows sluggish. * Once a coward, always a coward. * He doesn't run this time. * The final obstacle. Hope you guys like it ;)

[@joshuapohle6909]

I also think his undodgable attacks work like betrayal kills, they wouldn't work during his fight. But I feel like he'd make minor annoying changes like adjusting the brightness or other random meta things.

[@happyboy07685]

peak

[@jjcooldude9700]

I would imagine,in this fight considering he remembers LOADS and RESETS. The order his attacks are in would be RNG dependent as he switches things up so you would always have to be on your toes. Love the theme,and the concept of this has always been intriguing to me.

[@DeterminedBlade]

Ohh so if you die and restart you can’t just know the first attack immediately?

[@jjcooldude9700]

@@DeterminedBlade pretty much yeah. The first attack could be the last attack,the last could be the first,etc

[@tristantheone13]

Unlike sans who can only predict loads (like when he reads your expression) (most people think he fully remembers he just predicts)

[@nathanpierce7681]

i got another idea, what if flowey was ALSO able to access at least one or two souls after calling for help against frisk? like, obviously not enough to turn him into asriel, or even photoshop flowey, but enough to JUST let him emulate some of his attacks from his two stronger forms to stand a chance against you + act as failsafes in case he fails to dodge an attack like what if there were different difficulties where flowey gets one/two souls and the souls change with each difficulty, since the souls would also be pitching in with their own attacks instead of just boosting flowey's stats i imagine justice and perseverance would be the most fitting souls to help flowey, as being torn from the true pacifist ending would likely nearly break flowey's spirit as he sees us go on a no mercy route, only for him to collect himself and vow to put an end to our "game" before anything irreversible happens. he PERSEVERES through his own struggles for the sake of the world. and he'd also want to get JUSTICE for everyone, both from the previous timeline and this one. also, clover would probably willingly help flowey regardless if they realized their "best friend" was literally fighting for the fate of the world in the other room lol

[@theminerwithin9316]

Sounds good. It gives off the feeling that Flowey is absolutely trying here. There's no glee in that smile he's giving. It seems like a cover for his fear of Chara. This would realistically happen after you kill Asgore, so he has definitely felt that fear.

[@nathanpierce7681]

you mean, after HE kills asgore? he STOLE our kill! THAT'S the real reason I WANNA HACK HIM TO BITS

[@nathanpierce7681]

i feel like the smile would be pretty strained after the fight drags on for long enough, and he'll probably occasionally switch back to the scared, distressed face he uses in the original genocide run when telling chara to back off before quickly going back to his "scary" face as an intimidation tactic at this point, asriel's truly got his back against the wall. no souls, no powers, nothing. he's just trying to stall you... for as long as he can... to see what'll finally get you to quit.

[@cameronballz6154]

He's constantly trying to pretend like he's still in control of the situation, when in reality he's been improvising the entire time and has no idea how much longer he can keep this up

[@TraitorousHomeworlder]

You attack Flowey, only to realize that he doesn't have HP. After all, your LV doesn't do much against something that doesn't have a soul. You'll just have to tear him down, piece by piece.

[@TraitorousHomeworlder]

Love the Asgore leitmotif by the way

[@notflye]

Мне нравится задумка, надеюсь эта концепция попадет в игру)

[@TraitorousHomeworlder]

@@notflye Well, I don't think anyone's making a fangame based on this video, but that'd be cool.

[@Jking336]

​@@TraitorousHomeworlder I could (try) to make a fangame, but it'd be coded in Scratch most likely, and wouldn't be very good

[@TraitorousHomeworlder]

@@Jking336 There are engines and stuff for creating Undertale encounters, those would probably be better than Scratch at least

[@polishscribe674]

"Pfff, you really thought I don't remember? No, I thought you'd get bored before we get here, but... Well, here we are."

[@Arsarossa]

I could be wrong but, on top of this being a really cool idea, I feel like Flowey could be a genuine threat, arguably, allow me to explain my thoughts more lmao(Nerding moment /j) ~ Yes, Flowey isn't by any means the strongest monster, nor is he exactly 'powerful'(Outside of Photoshop), I'd say he's formidable at best. What makes me believe he could be a fairly difficult fight is the fact that he's pretty smart if not also clever: I'm not saying that because of the whole 'Friendliness Pellet' trick thing(Even if that's a part of it) ~ I'm saying this because he's arguably the *only* monster in UT who has an attack you couldn't dodge. To elaborate. Within UT a lot of the monsters have attacks which can be dodged with difficulty usually varying depending on who the monster is (Except Undyne but that's because of the 'Green Soul' thing in which you block against her attacks) In Flowey's case, however, rather that attacking you with a similar style of attacking ~ He completely cages you in with a ring of pellets that slowly close in on you, an attack which, realistically, you probably *wouldn't* have been able to avoid ~ You don't really dodge it either actually lol, It's Toriel who saves you. Sure, that could be an example of Flowey just playing dirty, but I think it's also rather smart on his end to utilize a move that you *cannot* dodge, ensuring his victory. (I'm not sure if he does the pellet cage in regards to if you do/don't collect the pellet though, I forgot) Uncorrelated to whether or not he's smart, the creator does state that he is capable of popping in/out of the ground to evade the players attacks like Sans, which would also play into my beliefs a little. I'm not saying that Flowey would win, the desc seems to be imply he'd lose even so, I'm saying that he'd be able to prove a difficult opponent for the player *solely* because he's smart, clever, and unafraid to play dirty to win. Him dodging similarly to Sans also improves his odds. Now I COULD be wrong on this so correct me if I'm wrong lol, but I think that the flower could actually be formidable just as 'Flowey', not as Photoshop or anything. The guy has potential imo.

[@polishscribe674]

I've heard a theory he can use undodgable attacks because they're kinda like betrayal kills - you need your opponent to lower their guard. Flowey tricks you every time he uses an undodgable attack (fake tutorial battle, thinking you can actually win in Photoshop battle, getting the true pacifist). The main argument is that Sans also uses undodgable attack if you spare him when he offers you to stop.

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

Love me some good nerding out. I agree entirely with your analysis, There's another thing you forgot to mention however, something that puts him above literally every other character when it comes to a one on one battle. He remembers resets. For the first time, it will be a somewhat fair fight. Sure, you still only have to win once. But, Flowey remembers every time you die. He remembers what messed you up, what you took damage on. He can adjust his attacks accordingly, exploit the player's weakest points. If this fight ever gets made into an actual fan game/animation, the only way it'd work is if his attacks changed after every reset. He is the only character in the entire game that will never be predictable because he's just like us. He remembers. Toby Fox basically had to nerf him with True Resets so he wouldn't screw up any future true pacifist runs. The only reason I think he'd lose is because, eventually, he'd slip up. One way or another, he'd make a single mistake. And that's all the player needs for him to lose forever. We get infinite chances to beat him, he just gets one.

[@Arsarossa]

​@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834I almost forgot that he's capable of doing that lol, true though, that's a very interesting fun fact which would definitely make a battle against him really unique & challenging ~ An adapting foe who remembers each and every one of your mistakes each reset/return you do and uses them to his advantage. I think my original idea would be even more likely with that in mind. (Also, thanks for the reply lol ~ Nerding out every now and then is something I find quite fun to do, so I'm glad there's someone else who equally has a fondness/joy for doing so.) (I personally think it's a really good way to spark interesting ideas and/or conversations like this as well.)

[@Arsarossa]

@@polishscribe674 Interesting, that'd make a lot of sense lol and equally fits Flowey as someone unafraid to resort to a underhanded tactic like that.

[@ahmed4363]

You have to remember that he's not a monster either. Those friendliness pellets use magic sure but they're also physically there, hes fucking hitting you with seeds.

[@solecproductions]

" *CLOVER'S TAUGHT ME THAT HUMANS ARE WEAK, FRISK! DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-* "

[@pythium2776]

Everybody is talking about Flowey being cunning- but I'd like to point out that this time, he would INTENTIONALLY trap you. Trap as in, finish off Asgore's SOUL so that you can't win even if you kill him, because you'll be stuck in the Underground forever... Basically intentionally ruining everything by killing Asgore instead of accidentally like in normal Genocide route lmao

[@diegolopesme]

couldnt just kill another monster also going to the surface wolnt be a good idea either another human is more determined than you or some anti-determination weapon would be used the humans would know much more about determanition have alot more time and resources to work on it

[@funniguy-gs4er]

The timelines getting erased anyways, no need to try and trap.

[@pythium2776]

oh also for the comments: 1. Nope, only Boss Monsters retain their souls after death for just a moment, and Asgore is the last one left 2. Most speculation, but Chara does want out of the Underground- or at least is implied to, considering how they ask for a different route after repeated runs- controlling Frisk on a pacifist route as well 3. Flowey doesn't know that, unfortunately for him Anyways! Thanks for enjoying this really long response comment-

[@diegolopesme]

@@pythium2776 not absorving another monster soul but killing another monster to get 20 lv

[@france_losted_togermany]

So uh. We kinda of erase the world with Chara anyways after that

[@LOL-bs1hg]

*You walk into The Throne Room, it’s sunny today, you see a Golden Flower staring at you. Flowey: Howdy there, Frisk.. What’s with the shocked expression? You do know I’m not like the others, right? Or did you get hit on the head too hard by that skeleton? I was being truthful when I said I couldn’t do all of this again, you know. I finally felt happy for someone for what felt like centuries, YOU took that away from me, now I’m taking away the power that gives you that STUPID GRIN. *Flowey is pissed.

[@DeterminedBlade]

100% what flowey would say

[@Heratic_]

Flowey! He has to be my favourite character in Undertale, and this is a really cool concept. Like, people have done Flowey with the six human souls on Genocide, but I've never seen just Flowey on his own before.

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

Flowey with the souls on the Genocide route never really made sense to me. He only gets them in Neutral because Asgore brings them out, he said himself that he could never get to them otherwise

[@Heratic_]

@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 That's true. A good example is Three Left, a battle versus Asgore, Sans and Flowey with the souls.

[@tntaro]

What about the battle against Flowey in Deltatraveler? Haven't played it?

[@Heratic_]

⁠@@tntaro Yeah, I haven’t played Deltatraveler

[@tntaro]

@@Heratic_ Do it man!

[@goobeeeer]

despite his fear, he has the absolute best shot at beating Frisk.

[@DeterminedBlade]

Napstablook: am I a joke to you?

[@ilikepotatos5891]

Well flowey can just trap you in a box and.... You know.... ​@@DeterminedBlade

[@theformalfern]

@@ilikepotatos5891but nabstablook can- * nabstablook is to depressed to fight and the battle just goes on forever *

[@moonglidegaming4108]

@@theformalfernfrisk dies of old age

[@crane5103]

other notable examples include box mtt, asgore, and alphys

[@Justyouraveragechaosenjoyer]

I love the underlying guitar throughout the whole thing. It just makes it feel so desperate, grunge-y, and hopeless. Like even though the melodies carry it and portray the power and anger Flowey feels, it still ultimately feels like a losing battle, and I absolutely love that!

[@Pearl7sp]

the dissonance between “his theme” and “your best friend” in this really hammers in that even though flowey *was* asriel, the two cannot exist simultaneously. this is so good!

[@giasfelfebrehber12]

Okay, I feel like my last comment didn’t really express WHAT I like about this… Okay, first off, it just sounds so Flowey. The cheerful little modification of Your Best Friend at the beginning that immediately gets intercepted with bass from Your Best Nightmare. The main melody just feels very Flowey as well, don’t really know how to describe it. The drops and leaps just feel bouncy in a really “Flowey” way. And then the His Theme in the background… Also! The freaking breakcore drums! And of course, it’s not a good Flowey fight theme without a little big of Asgore’s motif! And Toriel’s running over it? And the Once Upon a Time section? Just. Perfect. Gosh, this is so good! And it doesn’t feel all that intense, really nailing in the mood. This isn’t some big final battle for the sake of monsterkind, this is Flowey trying to survive. Love it.

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

I'm glad you enjoyed it so much! The reason the main melody feels so Flowey is because it is a heavy, and I do mean heavy, modification of Flowey's motif. It hits most of the same notes, just with a lot more notes in between them. Then of course I added the slide notes to give it a lot more of a distinct feeling. And yes, just a touch of Toriel is sprinkled into Asgore's motif.

[@giasfelfebrehber12]

@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 That would explain it! For some reason I thought it was related to a Mettaton motif, but now that I listen to it I can hear that it’s ybf.

[@smokin500cigarettes]

@@giasfelfebrehber12where is the Asgore/Toriel motif?

[@giasfelfebrehber12]

@@smokin500cigarettes 2:17

[@smokin500cigarettes]

@@giasfelfebrehber12oh yeah I hear it now

[@hoifzf]

* Something New * He should know it's over * You asked him why he's standing in your way. He doesn't know himself * You start to feel frustrated with his talking seriously sick them

[@Justwatchin-ye8pk]

Flowey remembers you're genos.

[@Clover-212]

I dont know if i prefer Flowey dodging or him having long turns and when he gets hit he decays, whatever coolio song, we are cooking you (Im hungry)

[@daviviana862]

i one concept i've been thinking is that you WOULDNT be able to tire him out to stop the dodging, you would have to use and act (like, idk, plucking him out of the ground) to get him back at the fight, THEN you would be able to actually hit him a little, repeating that until he dies

[@Clover-212]

@@daviviana862 Better idea than mine, still i would think the decaying sprites would be used 100 %

[@nathanpierce7681]

him decaying with each successful hit and STILL trying to go fight honestly fits, he's a being of determination AND he's probably letting his spite and rage over being denied his happy ending fuel him as he desperately tries to end us

[@daviviana862]

@@Clover-212 the best way to do it would be implementing the act thing but add a few in between decaying sprites or making him tank a few hits before he decays, because as much as the game wants us to belive, flowey is kinda strong (going back, now thinking, how the fuck did flowey tank a fireball to the face being A FLOWER? i think he is really tough to endure that, if it makes sense it reinforces my theory)

[@Clover-212]

@@daviviana862 It also makes sense, have in mind that he also tanks geno frisk like nothing, HELLO?!? lil bro is op, i really like the idea of a flowey fight tbh

[@compactpizza6337]

This is SO FREAKING GOOD. It manages to perfectly balance the off-ness of Flowey's themes and leitmotifs with sounding genuinely good. And while it is recognizably a Flowey track, it's unique to the other ones seen in the main game and fangames: he's not some malevolent god like in Your Best Nightmare or Afterlife, nor is he trying to deceive you like in Your Best Friend. He's not god, but he's gotten SERIOUS, and he's fighting back. Also, the use of the slash sound effects right before the beat drops is SO well done. (hmmmm... so, here's an idea for a mechanic in a fight using this theme. Flowey is capable of dodging your attacks, but if you get a PERFECT strike, then he can't avoid it in time and he gets hit. He's bulky, but not bulky enough: if you're using the True Knife, it'll only take a few slashes and he's OUT. It would reflect how he would likely be used to fighting from the player's side of the menu, dodging attacks but not being perfect at it like Sans seems to be.)

[@Eternalblaze199]

The beginning of this felt like BEST FRIENDS FOREVER in a way, the song corrupting

[@compactpizza6337]

@@Eternalblaze199 I am a SUCKER for that niche in Undertale fansongs.

[@Eternalblaze199]

@@compactpizza6337idea for flavor text for this fight: H0WDY 1 AM FL0W3Y, FL0W3Y TH3 FL0W3R

[@compactpizza6337]

@@Eternalblaze199 Another idea: Flowey's not running away...

[@baselessanomoly]

Absolutely my favorite iteration of flowey's song!

[@polishscribe674]

0:48 okay so what if in the fight, at that moment Flowey would make Asriel face and when the beat drops it would turn into a twisted demonic version of it.

[@shadeee69]

I mean the face thing seems cool but the demonic transformation doesn't have sense in the genocide route concept

[@dxgkiller6799]

​@adridoes_sillystuff True, through what if was more reminder to "us" the player, we should know "we're" the villain in all this? Or perhaps it's a flash of Chara's new viewpoint? Edit: fixed a part of the text that didn't make much sense

[@shadeee69]

@@dxgkiller6799 as an average AU thing it's normal I guess, but if we follow the regular original undertale canonsense it couldn't happen due to no souls

[@dxgkiller6799]

@@shadeee69 Understandable!

[@speedattack]

​@@shadeee69the face thing is canon too I think, flowey makes it while having the asriel sound for talking before you start slashing him in geno route

[@adudeonhispc]

How is it possible to create music that is just so RIGHT? This song now lives on my playlist, no rent needed.

[@jackofroge]

Imagine the other Souls willingly work with Flowey if you've done enough Genocide runs. Thatd be cool i think

[@xanam4913]

This is INCREDIBLE and i love all your ideas in the description so much. It feels so him.

[@TheSkeleBrosYT]

“It’s kill or be killed after all HAHA I THOUGHT YOU WOULD’VE GOTTEN BORED BUT NOOOO YOU WANTED TO SEE MORE… YOU AREN’T CHARA THATS CLEAR” (Flowey is absolutely terrified but giving it his all)

[@angelic_aether]

I love this, dude, it slaps! I really wish we got a genocide Flowey fight, because not enough people expand upon that concept.

[@DarkGope]

maybe this flower shouldn't have tried to KILL US in the start

[@krej1243]

0:47 I just realized there's two melodies here adjusted so they fit together despite the differences. One obvious is your best friend playing, but I only now hear that there is memory/his theme in the background as well. This is brilliantly fitting together! I also wanted to point out how some notes are changed your best friend notes, but some sound more like flowey's text voice adjusted to be musical(which is why this song would also fit into FNF lol). And another thing I have to say is that I love so much how you managed to increase the hype/dramatic tension or whatever gets people excited with songs- as the song progresses, adding more motifs and eventually playing all of them at once near the end, without making it sound like a loud mess! You adjusted it all so well that everything works just perfectly! I also really support your idea of the AU, but I have my own too over here: So imagine an AU where despite all flowey's resets, and getting bored, doing genocide and pacifist(by flowey, before we/Frisk arrived), there's still and always been one thing in the world that he cared about except Chara- Papyrus. An AU where even on the genocides one person who he always kept around(even if it hurt that person) was Paps. And so, when we arrive and eventually begin a genocide route, Flowey supports it, but with one rule: don't kill Papyrus. We can do a genocide without hurting paps, as he is moved out of the way by Flowey, but we can take specific actions(kind of how it is required with Snowgrave in deltarune) to reach Papyrus too. Flowey protects him in time however and an epic battle begins. Further than that, I haven't really thought much about it, but that would be cool too, would it not? Phew, I'm done now, nobody's gonna read this comment, although I am hoping that my appreciation of this track gets at least a little bit to you.

[@kekskruemel05]

Flowey LV 20 Atk ?? Def ?? Player 1 Filled with DETERMINATION

[@AzureFlowerr]

I love this! Reminds me of BEST FRIENDS FOREVER from Undertale Yellow :)

[@dxgkiller6799]

This theme, is so great for this idea of the fight!

[@rxstrictions]

You cooked so hard with this, im addicted to the intro specifically

[@Tsunamicat108]

This is one of the best fanmade Flowey themes I've ever heard. Also, given by the graphics, it looks like this would be a fight where he doesn't have the souls, either. Amazing work.

[@Rainbowplayz-ix5ix]

**1 Left*

[@swileyhedrick2373]

in an alternate universe this is the theme that plays when flowey roasts you over 1000 lines of unskippable dialouge

[@giasfelfebrehber12]

I LOVE this!! Probably making top 5 for fanmade Flowey fight themes!

[@akemiiya]

This concept is so interesting! I love the hopes and dreams parts and the breakcore drums here

[@Maker0824]

Why does everyone make Flowey smile in geno fight stuff? Does no one remember how terrified he was during geno?

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

I thought of it more as a brave face he was putting on in a last ditch attempt at scaring the player/Chara. In this timeline, the whole "new home discussion" never happened, so he never broke down like he did there. (Plus, his scary face is way more fun to draw then his scared face)

[@echerwrecker]

It's more so him smiling to hide his fear then?

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

@@echerwrecker Exactly. Taking a page out of Chara's book and hiding his emotions with a smile

[@dxgkiller6799]

@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 Do it have been still possible even with the "new home discussion" but he realizes the player themselves aren't Chara but someone else?

[@nathanpierce7681]

@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 honestly it'd be cool if you drew an extra one that slowly faded in as the video played on his "scary face", except now it's more blatantly strained (asriel's genuinely stressed over this fight) and flowey's face is starting to "melt" (he's sweating bullets from the exertion and the knowledge of everything that's on the line)

[@_Alik0]

The art and the music is so well done man 😭 illegal to be that good. Notifs on

[@thaias9654]

I'm just wondering if Flowey has the souls here or not. The Asgore fight would probably be very quick, so there might not be enough time for Flowey to grab them. If no, then there's a possibility for a genocide Omega/Photoshop Flowey fight (and song!) where he does manage to get them. Also, love this! too many Megalovania remixes out there anyway.

[@romacowles6137]

Holy freaking crap this is amazing!!!!!!

[@Craftomon360]

Love the art!

[@mell7249]

I'm Amen, Amen the Break!

[@Heratic_]

"See that amen break? No shit!"

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

You didn't hear? It is legally required that every Flowey Battle theme have Amen Breaks as the drum line

[@aloyhorizon1454]

Especially after UTY yeah! Amen breaks and Flowey, the iconic duo. ❤ It just fits his twisted mind and personality.

[@UsainSwirl]

Omg this rocks HARD i love this au concept, and amazing song too 🔥

[@PinkyPinkuPinko]

“Howdy! It’s me…” “your last friend.”

[@eblz_mld]

randomly as I was listening I had an Idea for this fight: basically, if you hit flowey, he does get hit, but then, (but he refused)

[@myla2495]

i love this so much-

[@NorthernWind0]

Get 'em Flowey. Rip their SOUL apart.

[@happyboy07685]

Despite the fact that Frisk has "Determination", they still have ONE weakness. The weakness is you. YOU are in complete control of Frisk, meaning You have what people have, emotions. One of these emotions is angriness, or rage. If you are too angry, you'll give up. And then your opponent... wins.

[@Thatbo2599]

I remember a genocide flowey animation a long while ago where flowey would hide under the ground to dodge attacks and at the end the human timed another attack for when he would resurface to get him, reminds me of that. I think the biggest threat Flowey has is experience. He explicitly states that he’s killed everyone in the underground possibly thousands of times, I bet he’s no-hit Sans a couple times (he said Sans caused more than his fair share of Resets, but he probably got the better of him at some point). He knows what attacks would be hard to dodge from fighting Sans and possibly Asgore, and he’d easily dodge your attacks as well.

[@YoThatsLiterallyMe]

"Despite its fear of us.. killing what was once its father triggered something.. within what was once the remains of a shatteted soul in the deepest of its core.." ... ... "At this moment, Flowey knew you aren't just good or evil." ... ... [YOU ARE THE EMBODIMENT OF CHAOS.] [Act] *It smell like determination..?* ... *It doesn't want to die anymore, it want to live..* ... Partner. If we don't kill it fast. HE WILL SURPASS OUR CONTROL OVER THE TIMELINE AS ITS DETERMINATION IS GROWING

[@DeterminedBlade]

“Finally, I beat sans and- THIS FUCKING FLOWER IS ALIVE?!”

[@nathanpierce7681]

1:22 ONCE UPON A TIME LEITMOTIF SPOTTED!!! LET'S GOOOO sick theme by the way, love the art for this. his smile... ough... it sounds so MELANCHOLIC and nostalgic, especially when the leitmotifs become blatantly obvious. tragic and fitting for a genocide after pacifist... is the main beat supposed to be a megalovania remix? because it really fits! also oh my god i just read the description. poor asriel. he HAS to know at this point that chara or frisk was never real, that it was always the PLAYER that he was venting his traumas out to, that helped him and everyone only to take their happy ending away out of the same curiosity that previously drove him forwards i guess he might consider it fitting that he dies against someone as apathetic and as ruthless as he used to be. only this time, he isn't going down without a fight. to be honest i think it'd make sense for flowey to try and copy his photoshop flowey/asriel dreemurr attacks with his pellets, managing to do so out of sheer willpower just to try and throw you off your game. also maybe he'd surround you with a ring of pellets at the end of every other turn to guarantee damage on you. also maybe the flavor text would constantly flip-flop between calling him "flowey" and "asriel" as, on some level, chara truly doesn't want to hurt their best friend and it bleeds into their narration (inspired by the genocide flowey fight that uses vetrom's finale for his boss theme) * FLOWEY stands in the way! * ASRIEL stands in the way! * FLOWEY glares at you hatefully, smiling forcefully while gritting his teeth. * ASRIEL stares at you strangely, frowning sadly while furrowing his brow. * How hard is it to stop toying with your food? * Just make it quick. edit 11/17/24: i just noticed the faint "his theme" leitmotif in 0:48. it's SUPER quiet, too, i only found it after listening to the song several times. this is so good, it being so quiet fits as flowey is trying to set aside his feelings to get rid of us once and for all

[@RolineOverlord]

Flowey could be such a formidable final foe if he wasn't a reborn crybaby

[@krej1243]

I don't know when was the last time I enjoyed song so much I couldn't stop listening to it every day. But that's what I'm doing with this one, this is so god dam good

[@aaronlim8918]

Flowey check:??? Atk ??? Def, can trap you in his vines, be careful….. one left

[@aaronlim8918]

Act-cut vines, check, talk

[@aaronlim8918]

-Cut Vines “ You Cut the vines around you, making it harder for Flowey to dodge

[@MrKaiju797]

Maybe a possible phase two would be fighting his omega/photoshop form with the difference being he *wont* revive you after killing you

[@Toasted_KitKat]

That’s a good idea. It would have both sides of the fight giving it their all knowing that it is all or nothing. Although I feel that instead of right after asgore this fight could take place in the barrier, where the souls are. So in the phase two flowey would use them. So that phase two would be less of a “I need to save them”and more of “Last ditch effort to save myself” kind of phase two if you get what I mean

[@MrKaiju797]

@@Toasted_KitKatI kinda pictured this music video taking place after you decimate Asgore, so yeah, It probably would take place at the barrier.

[@catlass]

*Check FLOWEY - 30 ATK 50 DEF Look at that rotten little grin. Smug little amateur. Just what chance does he think he has? *F i n i s h t h e j o b .*

[@白否]

The amen break makes me happy

[@danielasanmartin2997]

Looking sooo good!! Good job really! This is going to my playlist 👍

[@Al_White]

Escuche una y otra vez sin parar es increíble

[@Jenb13171]

Dialouge: you saved everyone and everything was perfect And you just had to go back and kill monsters I tryed to help you by taking out the old fool But i still feel this fear of you… What did i do wrong chara? Why are you looking at me like that No… You are not chara infact you arent human No human would stoop down to your level I may be scared of you but im not gonna sit here and die Im gonna do what i should have done a long time ago

[@AngelOfNoMercy]

* well Asriel did ask us to treat him and Flowey as different people..... * SO THEN LETS SHOW HIM THE TRUE MEANING OF THIS WORLD PARTNER = )

[@Golden_Official100]

This is insanely good!!

[@adey-k2q]

this is FIRE

[@raythegamer8860]

( *You walk to your next save point after killing off the King of the Underground.) ( *Just before you manage to touch it, you witness it get shattered by vines and very familiar pellets.) "Nuh-uh! I don't think so, buddy!" ( *You turn around to notice Flowey watching from behind.) "Howdy!" "Hah, wasn't expecting to see your best friend at a time like this, huh?" "You see, human..." "I've been noticing something." "I've watched you all this time in the underground, killing monster after monster in cold blood without a second thought!" "Now, don't get me wrong, I appreciate a nice killing spree every now and then..." "But, you eliminated the whole underground!" "Toriel, Asgore, the smiley trashbag... Everybody!" "Especially the common monsters, from top to bottom!" "What, are you expecting a congratulations from me?" "Not this time." "You see... I'm beginning to think that you're not Chara." "After all, they would never do something like THIS!" "Why would Chara kill the family who took care of them all this time?" "So, whoever you are..." "I'm afraid I'm gonna have to take that little soul of yours." "And I'm not taking no for an answer, either!" "So, get ready..." "Because I'm gonna make you wish you had killed me from the start."

[@brunttoast1704]

🗣️WAITER! WAITER! *MORE* BREAKCORE PLEASE!

[@mishagaming1075]

don't even need the emoji with that kind of profile picture.

[@karas1342]

Awesome!

[@Deathman3]

He has just enough power to send you back to the judgment hall if you die so you have to fight sans again

[@fourthmatchflame]

*smells like death. *That smiles always been fake. *In your way. *My best friend. My only friend. *I hate you. *Can you hear me, Dad? *Im scared. *Flowey tries to move the fight button. *Friends til the end.

[@DustingDuskFR]

This is SO underrated

[@Monochrome_Gold]

*You tell Flowey to get out of your way.* *he refuses.* *You finally have another way to end your genocide route this time.* *Let’s make it fun ASRIEL.*

[@zGabrielMvp]

sounds like an ultrakill ust ngl (which is very good btw)

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

This song feels like he doesn't even know who he his anymore, but more so he just has to stop you. It's unhined in a way Flowey normally isn't it feels like

[@gabby_the_duud]

this is so good

[@aaaaaa312-d2g]

i love this thank you

[@Quizmedial]

clever channel name, like it!

[@G_Triplets]

yeah banger music fr

[@Al_White]

Hermano que buen platillo nos has dado, Septiembre es el mes de los mejores platos

[@mistermiles1384]

Hey, I've been listening to this for a while and been thinking about whether or not I should make a fangame based on this piece of music. I think I will but don't expect anything ig.

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

Feel free. I'd play it over and over again

[@mistermiles1384]

@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 Alright thanks! I'll warn you that I'm not the best at dialog though.

[@Pixietheproot]

omg i love this

[@LucaCunha]

Bro... THIS IS PERFECT!! I've never seen a famusic (Does that term exist?) so good before!! How did you do this?

[@Eternalblaze199]

This feels like a inbetween of photoshop flowey and BEST FRIENDS FOREVER

[@Nothingonthischanneldont-hb4pc]

Let’s hope this passes 100k views.

[@Ze_Carrot]

That's sick

[@CrimsonGold-pq8xy]

Idea for a song: This X Megalovania If you need inspiration for the song in the terms of a story: Flowey has enough of doing nothing against Chara, so he teams with Sans in judgement hall, praying that they can actually win this

[@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834]

Good idea, I'll have to see how the two sound together first though. I think I could make it work

[@user-wz8lm5uk8s]

​@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 I honestly want to see that... Take your time to make a Sans and Flowey teamwork theme. We don't have one of those!

[@positivity3311]

​@@canthatewhatyoucantsee1834 I think another idea is kind of(?) Merging it with dusttale Eventually flowey starts killing too, it seems like dusttale but flowey is the murderer. (Flowey is bored of geno happening over and over and over again, he will try to stop you). Since flowey knows he can and has (implied in some geno dialogue) killed everyone and gotten far stronger, but sans can beat him (post credits dialogue) and both have a common energy they fight together.

[@MazariaNeedsNap]

This is so silly! I love it (:

[@frogmanfromthesky2148]

Lowkey sounds like finale is playing for him at one point

[@Pearl7sp]

i feel like this could happen in uty if flowey and clover had an equal control over the save file after axis

[@gamercentral2417]

All these genocide takes would be the coolest thing ever. One tiny problem with ALL of them You’re the one who’s in control, who’s stronger. They can’t dodge, only sans could do that and in return gets one shot. Flowey doesn’t have that luxury, he can’t just go to the ground. As we see when he leaves In neutral he uses some sort of feet (probably vines deatached). Flowey cannot avoid your attacks and so would just get one shot

[@zodiinitebestupid]

he could do anything he could to not get hit, like covering the fight option with vines or blocking the hit with vines or vines something

[@mishagaming1075]

did did you ignore all the times where flowey goes inside the ground? Not to mention flowey is still smart, and he has a LOT of experience with genocides, so he probably knows loopholes to stand a chance (not really) against one.

[@gamercentral2417]

@@mishagaming1075 did you ignore the fact that flowey had to “run” away with footsteps instead of submerging. He can be smart all he wants he hasn’t shown he can dodge

[@gamercentral2417]

@@zodiinitebestupid only sans could do that cause he breaks the game. A flowey with 0 souls can’t

[@gamercentral2417]

I feel like the fans forget that it’s a tradeoff Sans has: 1 hp, 1 def, 1 atk So he gets: menu attacking (can’t kill), poison, and the ability to dodge (it’s not as easy as it sounds) Asgore breaks the mercy button So he gets 2 ways to lower his attack, butterscotch pie and talking. Flowey doesn’t have much to GIVE, so he can’t tradeoff anything

[@wholekilogramofbutter480]

1:49 is absolute fire

[@Monopurp]

*You feel the old souls of such young bodies.

[@g.t.nlastwish8410]

Finished off his father Asgore didn't won flowey any favor with the human they'll still strike him down anyway now he gonna try to fight back with everything in his arsenal

[@GuyllianVanRixtel]

Attack 19 Defense 197 Standing up for himself.

[@Grxpevines]

See that heart?

[@Jking336]

No shit!

[@Budgielover-s1y]

​@@Jking336 *Good, atleast you are not blind. *İts your phisical manifestion of your "soul"... *İ wouldn't really call it a "soul", id rather call it the phisical manifestation of your determanation. *Don't be afraid to correct monsters if they call your heart your soul. [[Wink]] (Continue this diologe)