Resident Evil and The Cut Content Problem

[@underthemayo]

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[@bubuasqw123]

So Resident Evil 2 doesn't Miss Half the game? Jesus...

[@ProsecutorValentine]

@@bubuasqw123 3:09

[@concernedandequal1928]

For the first time I find someone else who is bummed out about RE 1 remake cutting the part where you can see the helipad from a window lol. I also thought it was important to establish a new goal since at that point, you are exploring the mansion for the second time. And besides that, I think it's just a nice touch and the rendered image looks awesome.

[@bubuasqw123]

@@ProsecutorValentine yes but then he says that RE2r is a good remake, and for the same reason RE3r is a huge let down...

[@ProsecutorValentine]

@@bubuasqw123 Mayo's point is that RE2R is a less bigger offense on a large scale than the ammount of RE3R cut content. Both share the same charges but without the same gravity, RE2R comes across as more forgivable and there WERE feeback for what it cut and had one part of the experience fully fleshed out that established the game as a survival horror. One of the reasons why RE3R is especially more problematic is the fact they continued on that trend and didn't learn the slightest little thing from RE2R's case.

[@TonkaFIN]

Cutting the clock tower section entirely was criminal offense

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

i didnt even realize how much cool stuff was in there. i was mostly mad about the graveworm in the park.

[@yutro213]

That was pure Evil.

[@EliottSontot]

And the park. And the restaurant. And the press office. And Jill visiting the RPD. And... yeah, you got the picture. Worst remake ever done.

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

@@EliottSontot that was really a botched job, as much as i love the games they did since and likely moved creative teams to those. i think this will long be a stain on their report card. fans of 3 really feel violated.

[@connorthegambitgaming]

And they cut out Barry Burton

[@oviniboy]

re3 still hurts

[@philsoro491]

I still get angry recalling certain twitch streamers saying re3 remake was great. Even though they loved the original. How can they say the remake was great if they loved original, makes no sense whatsoever. Capcom did the fans dirty & took advantage. GLAD I didn't buy it.

[@stryperwolf1723]

@@philsoro491 I actually enjoyed re3. Might be because i didnt play the original.

[@ducktalker]

​@Stryper wolf yeah I has the same feel until i saw what was cut from the original

[@philsoro491]

​@@stryperwolf1723 That's precisely why man. Trust me if u played the original before, you'd have been like "wtf is this" & I can guarantee u, you wouldn't have been impressed

[@M.sami12]

I swear it should've been a semi open world experience in raccoon city.

[@danielgeronimo5538]

Nemesis original is a very scary stalker enemy, because that's exactly what he does, he stalks you. Depending on your decisions, you can encounter him in different areas and in different manner, it was like picking your poison. It's annoying how predictable he is in the remake, like, he doesn't surprise you at all. What could be a better chance to show off a better AI, they didn't do here.

[@philsoro491]

Instead of nemisis being something to fear, the remake turns him into a mockery. The remake doesn't make u feel "oh shit" when u encounter him, just more "ugh go away" I think it's a good analogy for the remake. I despise re3 remake. Loved the original. Still sad at how they massacred my boy😞

[@TheJadedJames]

In RE3 Remake, it is basically like … I got a key item, so I guess there’s going to be a chase sequence as soon as I walk out this door.

[@peeko_luxx2873]

The original was far superior. I still enjoyed the remake. But I can’t say it even comes close to the original. No clock tower and the final fight was a joke. Not that the original was revolutionary for the final fight, but I remember struggling to line up the beam and the nemesis. Not to mention all his different transformations in the original were so interesting and really tickled my imagination. Whereas the remake doesn’t quite feel as unique. Middle form looked like a dog/horse?.. All just opinions and enjoy having discussions with those that have differing view points. Cheers

[@Impalingthorn]

Out of all the ways RE3make hurt me, them turning Nemesis into a complete joke that no one takes seriously and you only have one real encounter with was easily the worst blow. I remember thinking, "Wait, that was it?" when he transformed so shortly after leaving the first and only exploration area knowing he would not be transforming back.

[@danielgeronimo5538]

@@Impalingthorn I remember when going through RE3 original I was so nervous in making a choice because each one has severe consequences on your playthrough. You either deal with Nemy now, or you're gonna have a bad time later on with him on your tail, it was simple but, very critical to the survival horror mindset. And should you make a good choice and lived with it, you are rewarded for it. That was gone in the remake, alongside the interesting level design and boss battles.

[@RafaelRoberto]

One thing that really pissed me off at the time RE3R was that on 2R they did an amazing job with Mr. X stalking you around the RPD, it was scary, it kept on edge and moving and it was a perfect system to be implemented on Nemesis. Fuck, it would be even scarier, a monster bigger, carrying a rocket launcher and RUNNING at you faster than you could scape. And for some reason they just threw it all away, scripted the whole thing and make him so weak that it dies with a single grenade blast...

[@the-chicken-mafia]

Also, Mr X can instakill you -in BOTH FORMS- while Nemesis can't. Ever. (While he CAN stunlock you to death in his 3rd and 4th boss battles, that doesn't count and also makes me lose respect fur him) Additionally, Mr. X takes numerous bullets to the face/grenades (not counting flashbangs) to incapacitate. It's basically a last resort, especially on Hardcore. It's simply not worth the resources. Nemesis on the other hand goes down like a bitch. Side note: anyone else think the game gives you too many grenade rounds? No matter the difficulty, I could always cram my inventory full of them fir the 3rd boss and struggle to have room for other ammo and health. I was about to say 'remake nemesis has a lower body count than OG cause he didn't kill Brad' (or shoot down a helicopter) but then I remembered the train carriage full of civilians. And ok, that's pretty cool, and does a decent job at showing his threat level. But it doesn't hit the same as seeing OG kill Brad in front of you, or watching Mr. X's arm burst through a concrete wall to crush a guy's skull with a single hand.

[@black-redpill3]

That being scrapped makes sense when you remember you can't see Nemesis coming more often than not without reviving the tank control system with fixed camera angles. Over the shoulder fixed camera means you can never see the stalker enemy behind you, and its why it was effective with a much weaker version of Nemesis in Revelations. Corridors make it ironically more manageable than a wide sprawling map space does for the over the shoulder system. They chose the shoulder over trying to improve on arguably the best horror stalker AI enemy to date for the genre, and as a result the entire game suffers for it.

[@Fenris30]

@@the-chicken-mafia Difference is Nemy can Run unlike Mt. X. If anything they should have redesigned RE3 as a stealth focused game with you having to hide from the Nemesis using Stealth kills and Melee weapons to kill enemies rather then just shooting them because you don't want that guy to hear you or he'll be on your ass pdq. Have Silencers be the unlockables in the game for the people who wanna go in Guns blazing. This way you can let RE4 be the action game of the series.

[@Martinbaz777]

@@Fenris30 I've just played the game for the first time yesterday and had the same idea the entire time, it makes so much sense.

[@Pb-bs3ii]

@@the-chicken-mafia Found the MrX fanboy. If stunlock to death isnt an instakill idk what is. Leon is a rookie so anything would kill him. Jill isn't. There is the disparity. LOL shooting / using grenades on the tyrant is a last resort??? You can sidestep the old man and run. It's that easy. It's not scary, it's outright annoying if you don't know the optimal route, once you do the guy basically doesnt exist. Nemesis did shoot down the helicopter, right in the beginning before you floor the car into him. He destroys the train and kills all the civilians, impales nikolai, kills tyrell. Let's not take away how insane the beginning of RE3 was. Nemesis bursts through jills wall, kicks her into the wall, almost bashes her skull open. Stomps through the floor to the floor underneath, Bursts through another wall and tosses you into the hallway. Rips off a piece of foundation slab to kill you with. The strength of this creature was shown perfectly and had me hooked. Takes the hit from the car, falls from the top of the parking garage with the car landign on him, only to just get up like nothing happened. In game he stun locks you from hardcore and up and it's basically death at that point. Creates parasite zombies. Charges at you. Fucking LEAPS infront of you. Grabs you by your ankle and drags you to him. But somehow Mr. X is the perfect one.

[@EliottSontot]

I'm currently on my second playthrough of RE4R, and the more I play this game the more it makes me feel like the devs actually tried to take into consideration the feedback about RE3R and its shameful amount of cut content. Which gives me a bit more hope for future remakes, should they decide to do more.

[@bunkflunk]

Honestly I kind want them to completely overhaul the inevitable 5 and 6 remakes, just me?

[@EliottSontot]

@@bunkflunk To be honest, as much as I want Code Veronica to be their next remake I would like to see RE5 get the same treatment as well, giving it more survival horror vibes like RE4R did.

[@Skillfulstone]

@@EliottSontot I don't know...RE5 still graphically holds up today and due to the near-total inexistence of split-screen (because split-screen multiplayer doesn't make people buy online subscriptions), a new RE5 wouldn't hold as much appeal in the long term (hell, some people _still_ play the Mercenaries mode of RE5 and RE6 to this day). I think Code Veronica needs a remake more simply because, alongside being much older and outdated in almost every aspect, it would give Chris and Wesker a "remake identity" before potentially going for RE5. As far as the remakes go, Chris has 0 screen time and Wesker has _maybe_ 30 seconds and a Mercenaries appearance (not yet available but coming soon since dataminers found the character like 90% complete).

[@bunkflunk]

@@Skillfulstone Isn’t RE8 chris pretty much just the new “modern” chris look tho?

[@EliottSontot]

@@Skillfulstone Code Veronica should definitely be Capcom's next focus, as it marks the return of Wesker, which would be linked to his appearance in RE4. In fact I still don't understand why they didn't make a remake of it before RE4 since it is a direct sequel to RE2/3. Leon had his own game with RE4, so it would also make sense to let Claire have her own with a Code Veronica remake. RE5 still looks good, but I feel like a modern rework of its gameplay and some changes to make it a little more survival horror focused would greatly benefit it.

[@M.sami12]

Original RE3 is still my favorite game, you can play this game 100 times and never feel repetitive. you can only imagine how i feel about the remake.

[@j0hny00s]

RE3 is so damn fun. And once you start messing around with the all fan mods and randomizers it gets even better!

[@WinterWolf_Edits]

Repetivness is one of the games biggest cons imo

[@swagwolfgang]

Its my favorite game ever too! But i love the remake as a game but as a remake i hate it

[@CYB3R2K]

I prefer the remake to be honest

[@MajinLordVegeta]

@@CYB3R2K yikes

[@peterlawson8040]

If they hadn't gotten so much bad feedback from Re3 they probably would have rushed through re4 and ruined it's remake.

[@j0hny00s]

IIRC the team that did RE3 were working on 4, but after the bad press from RE3 they took them off the project and brought development in-house and put the RE2 team on it. So unfortunately RE3 being the way it is made RE4 much better.

[@leostenbuck4194]

@@j0hny00s Which is a shame because RE4 was already perfect and it didn't need a remake, meanwhile RE3 is great but it could've used a proper remake.

[@j0hny00s]

@@leostenbuck4194 I agree. It’s a shame, but it’s Capcom and they knew a remake of 4 would sell like crazy. I guess we’ll just have to wait another two decades for a proper remake😅

[@ClearLoki]

@@leostenbuck4194 It's The other way around, re4 was The one that deserved The most a remake, i hated that there was nothing serious in that game after The original trilogy

[@hiramsiqueiros9018]

​@@ClearLoki what part of the original trilogy is serious? RE has always been cheesy schlock with over the top plot points that make 0 sense, goofy villains and other shennanigans that make them so fun to play even today.

[@Gentou76]

You forgot to mention the removal of the zapping system in RE2. The remake has it where it feels like Claire and Leon are in two different realities rather than the same police department.

[@underthemayo]

I had a section specifically about that but I ended up cutting it just for pacing purposes.

[@Gentou76]

@@underthemayo makes sense even though it sucks that it was cut

[@GarseJanacek]

​@@underthemayo Stop cutting content lol

[@NeroLordofChaos]

​@@underthemayolol. Video about cut content has cut content itself.

[@Goblin_Hands]

@@NeroLordofChaos Doing so would have hurt the theme that RE2 and RE4 cut content was ok, only RE3 was unacceptable. Sorry, I'm about to rant. TL;DR RE3 is hardly the isolated problem. What is even the goal of these remakes? In my opinion, RE2 cuts absolutely were not ok. RE3 NEMESIS is lucky to even be called RE3, the real RE3 is Code Veronica (they were originally releasing CV as RE3), so I didn't care as much since RE3 was always essentially a side story of Jill escaping a Tyrant, and none of the new characters matter to the franchise. It's like RE0 without having Umbrella or leading up to the Mansion. Billy isn't someone we ever see again, and the events are sort of glossed over in Umbrella Chronicles but that game interestingly had stuff like the Snake boss fight which shows how Richard was attacked. The overarcing theme in mainline games is trying to reveal and defeat the company while surviving usually with 2 or more characters in their unique campaigns (RE4 also had Assignment: Ada and RE5 had the Josh and Jill story). The closest Jill comes to doing anything that upset Umbrella was get Nikolai killed, but who? Nikolai? And you play as Carlos as much as Sherry/Ada in RE2 or Ashley in RE4, who are just temps because the main character is not accessable, etc. I'm upset because they just skipped Code Veronica like it wasn't important. Yeah, maybe if you never met Chris and Wesker in RE1, which of course they skipped the RE1 Remake because it had Wesker. It felt like they were avoiding Wesker this whole time, hence why they discontinued the Revelations games, which probably would have revived Wesker. Finally we got Wesker in RE4 remake, surprisingly. No mercenaries mode though. Also, by cutting B scenario in RE2 Remake, it was like they cut both stories to shreds. Having Mr X survive in Leon's campaign and die in Claire's makes no sense unless there were 2 of them. Neither story feels true to the timeline, and they feel a lot like RE1 strange story-telling where you choose between having only Chris, Rebecca and Jill, or Jill, Barry and Chris survive, but in the canon story, all 4 survive (or are the games with Barry suddenly non-canon? Barry wasn't in RE3 ending!), so this could be something the Remake can actually address instead of cut corners. It is a lot like how Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles essentially tried connecting the entire franchise leading up to RE4 and RE5, get to experience the complete adventures of STARS members Chris and Jill from RE1, and original Raccoon Survivors Leon and Claire from RE2, and the build-up of Wesker's plot in RE5. I just don't understand the purpose of these remakes as a whole. Are they trying to revitalize the story to make it fresh for a modern audience? No, because they'd need most games like RE1, CV, RE5+6, etc and they would probably add stuff like "How did Ada escape Raccoon City?" Are they targeting games that need to be remade? RE2 and RE3 were originally the only PS1 quality mainline games that essentially needed a remake, and ever since RE1 Remake, the graphics have looked "realistic", which would only leave a few more games like CV to be necessary, but they would have made it match up with RE1 Remake style gameplay, character, creatures, and story unless they intended to remake everything from RE1 again and RE5+6. Where were the Crimson Heads? They literally are premutated Lickers. No spiders, crows, evolved Lickers or Beta Hunters, or non-Nemesis bosses like Gravedigger. Is it a cash grab? Yes, RE2 and RE4 are generally considered the best rated in the franchise, and RE3 had become a cult classic amongst fans for reasons, while RE5 despite being the best selling and important to the plot, was criticized. I imagine they won't remake RE5 because it has more risk of not making enough money for the original's scrutiny despite selling the most, in fact I bet they only remade RE3 because it would have been awkward to just remake RE2 and RE4 (like they were also hyping up RE4 VR) They certainly didn't act like they wanted to remake 3 and treated it like an afterthought, but RE2 is a lot like Star Wars: Force Awakens. It gets a lot of forgivenss for graphics or superficial nostalgia, but set into motion of cutting content, like TFA didn't explain how the galaxy was in turmoil after RotJ, but is RE3 Remake equal to the Last Jedi, or is there more planned? What exactly is going to happen in RE9? Is Resident Evil going to officially die or get limited to lackluster TV shows?

[@BillyCobbOfficial]

I could not believe that the RE1 remake was from 2002 when I played it, it looks so damn good

[@DonYoGi8331]

It still looks amazing today on current gen consoles. It's the only RE game with a true classic horror movie feeling that I don't get from the other ones.

[@MultiKamil97]

I replayed it in december 2022 and it still looks amazing for its age. I think with the way the pre-rendered background was made, it will look good even 20 years from now.

[@unoriginalhazard]

Still own it to this day and play it occasionally.

[@ali-kun7038]

​@@DonYoGi8331 7 is scary

[@DonYoGi8331]

@@ali-kun7038 it's not

[@nessadvantage9447]

I think what hurt most was Capcom cutting the mercenaries mode on re3 remake. I thought: how the hell do you cut out the mercenaries mode from the remake of the game that started the mercenaries to begin with 😡 damn you Capcom.

[@johnathanross6519]

Because they thought that boring bs resistance would suffice in its place.

[@TheRealSephiroth]

​@@johnathanross6519 that games controls an shit was so out of whack i couldnt even play one fucking map it was so atrocious 😒

[@4Wilko]

I'll never forget Operation Mad Jackal and its music. What a tragedy.

[@ExeErdna]

@@johnathanross6519 Resistance showed me Capcom has a weird idea of "fun"

[@turtleanton6539]

​@@ExeErdnaindeed😮

[@Capta1nAsh]

RE1R - Added content/lore, becomes new canon. RE2R - Half a remake (no B-scenario), "TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY!" as the credits song, talkabout lacking self-awareness RE3R - Shit. 2nd time RE3's story was retold poorly (Umbrella Crhonicles being the first) RE4R - Trimmed the fat To be fair, the tacked on Second run in RE2 was worse than just leaving it out at all. I would've been fine with a DLC or waiting another. I hated playing Claire A/Leon B and seeing Anette die in two different ways. It confused me

[@maskednil]

RE4R didn't cut the fat. OG4 didn't have any fat. 4make wanted to be serious so cut things that it feels didn't fit the tone, instead of reworking them, like they reworked Saddler, Salazar, Luis, Ada, and Krause to be shittier version than their OG selves.

[@IcaroRamosDM]

RE3 Remake needs a Remake

[@Superman72185]

So does re2 fake remake 🤔

[@IcaroRamosDM]

@@Superman72185 I agree

[@Superman72185]

@@IcaroRamosDM re2 udk was the true remake though unofficial... is the reason fake remake exists

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

Just gotta wait 20 years.

[@noizusagi6901]

@@Superman72185not before 3. At least most of the content for 2 is still there… be grateful.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Thank you for articulating this. I remember being excited for 3R when it was advertised after finishing 2R. The original 3 was the first RE game I owned, so I was thrilled to see what they could do with it 20 years later and the demo and interviews promising more exploration and interaction than ever before got me hyped so I preordered for $70. Then I got the Remake and was first stunned that Nemesis doesn't kill Brad, the QTEs that got in the way of doing anything in the intro and suddenly 3 minutes in I was at the train with the UBCS. Less than an hour later I was, on my first playthrough already to the lab. I was livid realizing I had paid $70 for maybe $12 worth of content. It's always going to be a sore spot for me, because like you said, it will never get fixed and it's a damn shame.

[@feritye767]

paying $70 for that game is crazy, I paid £4 and still didn't think it was worth it

[@CleitonLopesK]

9:00 Let's be honest, that scene of the Nemesis destroying the helicopter perfectly describes the fan reaction to the remake, Jill is the fans, the Helicopter is the remake, Nemesis is capcom, and the missile is all the cuts and changes.

[@DangerNoodlez144]

Alright man its time to go outside.

[@joegardner851]

Not everyone was upset about the remake. I agree with the guys comment above me. Go outside. It’s a video game

[@traceyxxrose7454]

💯

[@joel3683]

​​@@joegardner851 to you and the guy you were siding with... Bruh, so what? just because people make a quick complaint on the internet they don't go outside now.. okay man sure🤣 people can still be passionate about games and have lives yk🤦. Yk OP is right, CapCom spat on our faces with that remake, like it or not, it should've been delayed maybe for another year.

[@joegardner851]

@@joel3683 I’m passionate about games too but I don’t go 3 years later and whine and complain. I focus my energy on things that I like. Life is too short to be upset about something that you don’t have control over. Move on and play games that are good. I don’t take it personal when a company does something bad, because they aren’t our friends. So my face isn’t spat on. So go outside my dude

[@shushyshushy6762]

In RE3: Nemesis, you have to also remember how many KEY moments happened in the City Streets as well. 1. The outbreak itself happens 2. You run into Brad and he warns you of a monster hunting down STARS members 3. You have to navigate to a substation to restore power to an area and get swarmed by Zombies 4. You meet Carlos and have an encounter with Nemesis in a restaurant where you're given a choice to either flee or fight Nemesis. 5. You end up nearly getting Blown to bits when a gas station explodes 6. You wind up entering the front gates to the RPD where you witness Brad get obliterated by Nemesis 7. You eventually meet up with Carlos and you both have to jump out of an Office Buildings upper floor to escape Nemesis 8. Near the beginning of the game you Discover an Officer who has blown his brains out in a basement with the Shotgun you end up taking for your own survival. There are just so many key moments big and small that happen in the city streets that the Third Party dev team purposfully cut out, regardless if it was for a lack of budget or whatever, they should have never agreed to take on such a massive task as to work on a Remake of a cult classic title such as RE3: Nemesis

[@AJadedLizard]

This hits the nail right on the head. So much of Resident Evil 3 is about Raccoon City. One of my favorite sequences in any game is the bit after you have your conversation with Dario, where you first gain the ability to free roam the city. You encounter numerous other survivors...and you will be able to save *none* of them. That opening, crushing failure drives home what Re3's central theme is: because the Raccoon City Outbreak has occurred, our heroes from the original game have already lost. They failed, they weren't able to protect the city, and now basically everyone inside is going to die. It isn't about stopping Umbrella anymore, it's just about survival. I really like the end credits theme for the REmake, "Sadness and Regret," but they try to invoke a sense of gravitas the game just doesn't earn. We never saw Raccoon City alive, we never really had a reason to care about the people in it, hell, we never directly interacted with the survivors Mikhail was trying to evacuate, so Raccoon City's destruction doesn't have much weight to it. If ever there was a case for a game deserving to be expanded, it'd be Resident Evil 3. They could've done so much, incorporating locations from Outbreak and Re2R, and instead we got a game that's almost entirely recycled from Re2R. While it's not my absolute least favorite Resident Evil, it's at the very bottom of the pile.

[@Thorogrimm]

I'm surprised we haven't had a Code Veronica X remake at this point. I hope that's in the works though

[@romanticwander]

im hoping so too. thats my favorite RE game. But Capcom wants to remake the numbered games only. So 5 is up next. Hopefully they've changed their minds recently.

[@marcraider]

I only hope the next remake will be made by the same team of RE 2 and 4, because if is made by the RE 3 "remake" team, it will be a total crap

[@siuuuu7229]

my guess code veronica remake is before or after re5 remake. i think they're going to remake re1 for 30th anniversy and in a far future make new game with leon jill and chris it would sell like hotcakes.

[@TheJadedJames]

I’m not surprised by this. It is arguably more “logical” from a player perspective to remake Code Veronica, but a Resident Evil 4 remake was always going to make way more money. The main thing that makes me consider that CV could get remade before RE5 is the controversy over RE5’s setting.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@siuuuu7229 What about a Dino Crisis Remake instead. Being chased by intelligent Velociraptors and T-Rexes would be a nice change of pace from being chased by brain-dead Zombies

[@thatmemeguy6487]

I like how RE4R really tried to make up for the cut content, but I do agree that the first remake was the best one.

[@arkiststark]

I think for Capcom it would not be the worst idea to just give us something like "what could have been" dlc with all the cut stuff just for the laughs. I know charging for it would not feel good but I'd gladly pay for a remixed u3 fight and the lava dragon room.

[@ceoofdinosaurs4276]

@@arkiststark the u3 fight was most likely just moved to the Ada dlc

[@Phantom-kc9ly]

Nah. 2 was the best remake. Because you know, it's actually a different game that plays entirely different and isn't bad.

[@Phantom-kc9ly]

RE1make is basically a director's cut with better graphics.

[@thatmemeguy6487]

@@Phantom-kc9ly re2 remake still cut many content

[@mofkergt]

As someone who played resident evil nemesis re3 remake felt like a stab in the heart

[@WhatisReal11]

the original game was crude polygons for barely 6 hours.

[@kungfupandahater3630]

​@@WhatisReal11 yeah but it was better designed

[@YEY0806]

​@What is Real most games back then in reality we're really only 7 hours or 8 hours if being generous so it's not like that justifies how bad the remake is

[@RichterBelmont2235]

@@WhatisReal11 The remake is only 2 hours long game with even worse gameplay. Scums like you who bashed the old to make the new looks better are the worse kind of fans, you're not even real. Just some paid shill.

[@borttheattorney6012]

​@@WhatisReal11🗿 Me when I want to be a hater but fail miserably

[@DVZ000]

I feel this in my soul. My favorite RE game is RE3, and I have cursed Capcom ever since the remake was sent out to die. They spent so much time on the unnecessary multiplayer game, that time and resources were wasted. They made so many extra multiplayer maps and areas, and that time could have been spent on the main game instead. It kills my soul to know how badly this was mishandled.

[@Numenorean921]

and the worst part is that's it, capcom has moved on and won't touch the game again unless they do another remake in 20 years. I would cry if Capcom gave us DLC for re3

[@MDNGTSHEP]

I feel they can rectify this by remaking Outbreak. Make the city and underground parts of the city fully exploitable. Give us player choice that impacts the story drastically.

[@Tony-ol9ru]

Leave Outbreak alone. You want another Resistance? Just put out a remaster or play on the private servers.

[@dalair]

I want REmake outbreak, but done by the ubisoft division games team.

[@Raytheman581]

@@Tony-ol9ru No, I want outbreak. Its the one game that didn't get its do because of when it was released.

[@alexferrier5732]

​@@Tony-ol9ruThose prívate servers are a Ghost Town. You practically need to convince someone to install it and play it with you, come with Friends already cause you aint meeting no one there. I would like an outbreak game with the player base of current gen consoles and PC.

[@raydhen8840]

I keep saying that Outbreak is too ahead of its time, with current state of video game it's not only possible, but would be better received. And no we're not talking Resistance because they're trying too hard to copy the like of Dead by Daylight success that they forgot their own gem.

[@saltyshalquoir8008]

RE3 was always my favorite as a kid. The parts taking place in the city streets were so scary because I could imagine them in the real world. When RE1 was remade I started holding my breath for them to remake Nemesis… I’m still holding my breath, I’m a ghost now…

[@deadheart1579]

2:55 NO, Claire and Leon have almost Identical scenarios in the RE2 remake. The only real difference being the Sherry/Ada parts, a couple cut-scenes play out slightly different, and a couple different MR. X appearances. With very few differences, all items, key items, and weapons are exactly the same, in the exact same spot, and all puzzle solutions are exactly the same. That is what pissed me off about it. It went from 4 unique scenarios in the original, to one single scenario with very minor differences between the characters in the remake.

[@robchuk4136]

Really good explanation. Between the Chris/Jill campaigns in RE1 (where I didn't know I left poor Rebecca behind when the mansion blew up), The A/B Scenarios in RE2, (which have completely unique was Ada dies), and the branching choices of RE3, Resident Evil built a tradition on multiple playthroughs. It kinda sucks they aren't about that anymore.

[@SilentEvil97]

Agreed completely. The original RE3 was literally THE FIRST game I've ever played. What capcom did with it in the remake was just sad.

[@avatar_bro]

Several sections of the original Resident Evil 4 were either remixed or cut entirely for the remake, resulting in a game that is all the better thanks to its more even pacing. Can't say the same for re 3 though.

[@claybass3631]

Dropping the clocktower was a big mistake... it was my favorite location. I was so excited when it was time to go there, ...then VERY disappointed.

[@jfells4838]

@@claybass3631 what is even more disappointing is that after the nemesis fight the cutscene literally shows her WALKING INTO THE CLOCKTOWER… then nemesis infects her and Carlos comes outta nowhere then bye bye clocktower….. what a damn waste

[@PinkManGuy]

Some things they changed I REALLY don't like. Having to carry Ashley in chapter 15 gets worse with every playthrough, for example. It's just holding W for two minutes straight. I was tempted to use cheat engine to speed cheat my way through it on my sixth run.

[@jfells4838]

@@PinkManGuy if that’s your biggest issue with the game then I don’t think it’s a very big issue…. At all…..

[@Ajeez1000]

​@J Fells yeah more of nitpick if anything lol

[@yellowg00se]

“It would be like RE4 starting at the village fight and then going through the insignia door and immediately find ashley” in reference to RE3R’s cut content So. Damn. True

[@iLikeYamsRaw]

Honestly, I'd rather another RE3 remake before RE5. This one was a crime.

[@Nayan66]

id pay alot of money to see capcom admit their mistake and promise us another chance lol, id trade ALL my games in for them to have another go,

[@Kacpa2]

Change to Jill's personality is also quite bad. She is swearing far too much and her line delivery is in this sassy aggressive way. And Line she should say at the end is relegated to her baiting Nemesis away from carlos and might not even be heard.

[@TheWintersGate]

RE1 remake is the best in terms of faithful recreation. It has additions and changes that only benefit the experience. RE3 on the other hand is the polar opposite. I talk about this too in my (first ever) video, check it out if you fancy it. Mentioning it here, because… well, Mayo inspired me to make it in the first place. Still not over RE3 and these videos are pure therapy.

[@aceghostrus122]

IT WAS NEVER REMADE XD

[@minutemansam1214]

@@aceghostrus122 What was never remake? Because so far they have remake RE1, RE2, RE3, and RE4.

[@saintallison]

@@aceghostrus122 lol Denial is one of the stages of grief xD And I'll check out your video, @WintersGate!

[@EliottSontot]

RE1 will always be the perfect definition of an outstanding remake. 100% faithful to the original game while enhancing the experience and adding new exciting stuff to it. If RE3 remake was released in 2002 by the same RE1 remake devs, it would have been an incredible game.

[@slimboarder.o7]

RE 3 IS A BETTER REMAKE THAN RE2

[@Cyclon32289]

I hate that they cut the spiders too. They were iconic.

[@daveweaver3886]

You know what Capcom should do? Remake RE3R properly and make it FREE for everyone who already bought it.

[@roseserenity0]

Yessss. I think if people would start to bring this whole RE3 remake up again especially on twitter maybe Capcom would notice

[@black-redpill3]

Re2 missed half its content when you pair both the missing content of the B scenario for both characters, but also the missing content story wise in the A scenarios for both characters as well. Re3 on the other hand was missing 3/4ths of its content, because not only is half the game missing without the clock tower segment, but due to no choice system being present you are quite literally only getting half of the remaining game left, since those choices are left to a default script. Re3 remake really does feel like it was only made in a year imo

[@cthulhucultist8872]

I was deeply saddened by three and how they completely removed the cemetery with the gravedigger werm boss fight, and The clocktower level being removed, I'm also kind of upset that used the gem gate puzzle going towards the town hall from the original as a memoriam to The clocktower instead of using the music box puzzle, it was a missed opportunity for nostalgia brownie points

[@gokublack3107]

There more bigger things they took out more than the cemetery lol ...the story it self is stupid.....they even introduce nemesis in a poorly way...let alone ruin Carlos appearance and uniform....the game is shorter and no mercenary mode 😒🍵 and the gore had tone down .....no way near better than re2 even the zombies died and fall down in the same anima positions....and nemesis is less intimidating ...and they alternate his second from into a hybrid looking licker smh .....it's utterly laughable and pathetic.....😒🍵

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

Gravedigger wasn't even a real fight. You could get past it without shooting it. It was a thrown in "boss".

[@cthulhucultist8872]

@@WutTheDeuceGaming I don't care it was still a good spot regardless because it really opens up your eyes to Nikolai being a real scumbag and the shed that's in the cemetery reveals a lot of the story and the coming of a nuke, and the grave digger is an example of the mutation of the g virus and it's more severe effects on the creatures of racoon city, and it isnt always possible to killed it without shooting it unless you know what your doing, but if that's your only problem with my comment I suppose we're kinda on the same page hey?

[@cthulhucultist8872]

@@gokublack3107 right !! and along with the park and press office and revisiting the RPD

[@markcobuzzi826]

​@@WutTheDeuceGaming Just to make sure we are not talking past each other, the Gravedigger has two separate encounters, the second of which requires you to kill it. Granted, you might have been referring to how the second encounter lets you kill it with some downed power lines, without technically needing to spend any bullets. But that trick only becomes available if the player lets the fight go on for a set period of time, and many players do not even know that the trick exists. So even when I would use the trick, it was pretty much the equivalent to avoiding RE4’s Verdugo until the elevator arrives, and I personally would not say that disqualifies the Verdugo from being a “real fight”.

[@roxascross3741]

Man I wish they would do RE3 remake again without the cuts.

[@DolkkarToyznstuff]

I'm glad I still have RE3 original. When they cut the clock tower, they cut one of my favorite sad moments in RE history, finding Dario's missing daughter and finding out, she didn't make it. For me that's a deep part of the story that should have remained in tact. 3make without that scene, let along the clocitower missing is a real travesty. My 2 cents.

[@underthemayo]

Yeah Dario is just... in the remake. And then gone.

[@ablationer]

I like how even the recent release of RE4R is still a good excuse to talk about how bad RE3R was lol

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Mayo couldn't resist another opportunity to shit on the RE3 remake and I'm ok with that.

[@underthemayo]

It was kinda weird revisiting all that hate. I'd like to not make a habit out of it.

[@Euromasterrace5000]

Facts. Re3 Remake deserves to get shit on at least once a month lol

[@ZeroOhNine]

Don't forget cutting *_The Mercenaries_* in the game it debuted in.

[@joegardner851]

It’s in the game now. Capcom addressed that and said it was coming

[@joegardner851]

If you were talking about RE3, my bad. I thought RE4 started it.

[@ZeroOhNine]

@@joegardner851 You're fine. Yeah Mercs was first in RE3 Nemesis.

[@uninhibition31]

Maybe we’ll get a faithful remake of 3 in about 20 years 😂

[@Jerry-jo6dn]

They should release a directors cut

[@TombRaider_Remastered]

@@Jerry-jo6dn please god no. Just need a faithful remake with no changes please. The game is such a bad game 😂

[@joen8529]

Cutting stuff to be PC is absolutely absurd and laughable. Ashley is equipped with ballistics. PERIOD.

[@deezee2965]

I still think Code Veronica would be the best game to benefit from a remake... Lack of varied monster design... Unballanced items management between Chris and Claire...

[@Capta1nAsh]

I never understand why Capcom hates RE3. Like I remember it's story in Umbrella Chronicles also being gimped. Ending on the RPD roof.

[@TunezCottage]

Thank you for saying what a lot of people don't dare say about RE3R. Everytime I hear people talk about it, it's always "it's so short" or "clocktower" but there's just soooo much more wrong with it. The b-team did a horrendous job with that game, and I'm sure there are reasons for that which we'll never know about but it just makes me so sad. RE3 is a phenomenal game and deserved so much better.

[@Nayan66]

10000%, for some reason, it morally feels right that they should take responsibility on their actions in some form

[@daveweaver3886]

And the fact that not ONE single thing was added to it or fixed in 3 years is just unforgivable.

[@MultiKamil97]

​@@daveweaver3886 It kinda feels like they remade RE3 only for it to be there, so they could be more focused on developing RE4 Remake without people saying "Why you skipped RE3 after RE2?". Everything about RE3 Remake just screams "rushed and unambitious", it's like they didn't really put much heart or work into it because it's not as popular as RE4. It's also plain to see that they wanted to release it as soon as they could so they could profit on this hype that was ignited by RE2 Remake. If it was given more time, maybe we would have a much better game.

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

I had RE4R preordered and had the RE Collection purchased for cheap a while ago so I decided to play through RE4 OG again in preparation for the Remake. Honestly, having played these games back to back and being able to compare them directly, the Remake adds way more than it takes away and it's the overall better game. But it doesn't replace the OG like REmake did with the original RE, if that makes sense. It's a mechanically more fun game with lots more to do and explore but there's certain things the OG has that makes it irreplaceable. Both are A+ games. I personally prefer the Remake. I never played the original RE3 but I just knew something was off about the game before I saw anyone complain about cut content. The city areas were nothing. I'm a big fan of the RE Outbreak games on the PS2 and those did Raccoon City more justice than RE3R.

[@CptSourcebird]

Honestly I think that's the genuine best part about the Resident Evil 4 Remake, it's a kind of remake where you are actually guilt free telling new fans that they can pick either the RE4Make or the RE4 OG, as each are really damn good in their own way. EDIT: This analogy WILL get stupid but I see RE4 OG like Chocolate cake, you can't go wrong with it. RE4 Remake is like Dark Chocolate with different types of chocolate flavours that others have noticed that were missing from the OG (Like Luis, Ashley, and Ada getting even more proper screentime.)

[@TheFawse]

Yeah, they’re different enough in order to stand on their own, and be judged as such. I’m glad that the remake wasn’t 1 for 1, they’re both amazing games with different enough style and gameplay that leads to different experiences

[@CptSourcebird]

@@TheFawse personally the distinction people make about RE4Make Leon is that he is even more of a himbo that goes all "maybe I could have said that better" in his head.

[@ilyadratutin6385]

@@CptSourcebird he is a flabbergast

[@Lusorxx]

The better game loooooooool good joke

[@mentalmalachy]

If you ask me REmake is still the best example of how to do a remake right. It didn't cut enemies, item, guns or locations (except for that room you can see the heliport from). It even added more. The lighter from RE1 was completely optional but because of the crimson heads from REmake it gave you a reason to use the lighter so you could burn them. This is all just my opinion but REmake is my favourite all time game so i could talk about how great it is all day.

[@patriciamorgan2521]

I kinda wish Capcom would revisit the 3 Remake & do a "directors cut" & add back the clock tower & make the downtown area much larger with longer sections of being attacked by Nemesis. Also make it where he doesn't go down so easily. I saw a PC mod where Nemesis in the 3 Remake was relentless on the player how it should be & it was pretty awesome.

[@mrpussinboots4252]

Not feasible.

[@Goblin_Hands]

@@mrpussinboots4252 RE3 is already made, so adding in a few locations and repackaging and reselling it is exactly what Capcom could do like they did for their entire Street Fighter franchise.

[@mrpussinboots4252]

@@Goblin_Hands It's not as straightforward as you may believe. The entire game would have to be restructured to accommodate said locations/environments.

[@deadeyereaper2080]

Seeing the Skull Shaker shotgun in RE4 even though it was an RE3 weapon felt like Capcom is either teasing us or screwing with us.

[@MrCromocrunch]

The RE1 remake still looks amazing.

[@Twitch-Ez]

I still hope that U-3 is in adia dlc especially that it was mentioned in luis lore

[@LeeEverett1]

I guarantee it will be, they left it for her because they wanted an extra enemy that Ada can fight

[@thenedsmmachannel8970]

Yeah it seems possible since U3 might replace the Krauser boss fight since it wouldn't make sense story wise. Ada and Krauser have no interaction in Remake compared to OG

[@bernardorodrigues7048]

U-3 was cutted!?

[@Twitch-Ez]

@@bernardorodrigues7048 yes but you can see his name in louis journal and louis lore

[@jlogan2228]

@@thenedsmmachannel8970 Personally i would be fine with that as a change, like let U3 be her personal final boss bc having her fight krauser just felt like a tack on and that saddler boss fight is cancer with how tanky he is ( legit just replayed it the other night and i shot him in the face with at least 15 blowgun bolts and still only got his eye to expose once)

[@MehrabRahman]

While RE3R was true heartache, the loss of RE2R's B scenario still hurt a lot. Like you said, it's important to know what the original experience actually was like, and the B Scenario was absolutely a key component for me. Or, rather, the attention to the scenario overall was key. The characters, the setting, the feeling that some page was turning in the story. The RE2 Remake not only fumbled the second scenario, it also fumbled a lot of these other elements for me. Marvin was A+ absolutely, but then we meet and immediately say goodbye to Ben. Chief Irons goes from 0 to 100 the very first time we meet him, and we know exactly where he goes a few minutes later. The notes and background search text are gone without a lot of environmental storytelling to add. We move between ares of the game without feeling like there's been a change in the situation besides respawned enemies.

[@underthemayo]

I really like the change to the ben meeting. I'll take the new incredible introduction to Mr x over the old ben encounters. But yeah chief irons is not a great change. You should check out my official video on RE2 if you haven't. It covers the B scenario a lot.

[@MehrabRahman]

@@underthemayo Thanks, I will! And don't get me wrong, I do like the actual scene with how it sets up the tyrant. I also like the new chief's acting and performance. My issue is that while the original Ben could also be boiled down to "sketch reporter killed before he could give Leon info" he at least got some time between his introduction and his death to add some direction and atmosphere to the building before doing so for Mr. X. It was like the opposite of what they did for Marvin, a two scene character in the original that gets a few more in the remake to space out his intro and his turn. But the change with Irons is even worse. The original made it feel like the disaster at the RPD was just as much a result of him as it was the zombies, and his vanishing act made it feel like he could pop up anywhere. Making him a mini pursuer boss for Sherry was a good move, but moving it outside of the RPD wasn't as much. Beyond the gameplay and scenario though, I always felt like the original games intended on writing about Umbrella and its BOWs as less the antagonists and more a corrupting influence on the real villains. Wesker sold out his unit for profit, Irons was desperately clawing for control of a town he no longer felt in control of, Birkin went to extreme lengths to keep his work for himself, and Nikolai tried to monopolize his value as a potential sole witness to the only large scale combat trial for Umbrella's virus. After RE4 though the main theme of each villain seems to be global domination of some sort, and the new Remakes don't do much to expand or improve on the old pattern. Like, they could have had Ben direct Leon a bit for evidence to establish Irons and Birkin a little, or expanded Birkin's drive to hunt Sherry as more than simple instinct and instead a corruption of his need to keep what's his from others, or have Irons play the part of a proto-Salazar sabotaging the RPD in real time to kill the new intruders sniffing around his business.

[@causerDAguv]

I feel ya on the RE3make. It hurts so bad and it's absolutely mind boggling and sad when you hear someone say they thought the remake was good. Also by having the train already fixed cut the game down.

[@RichterBelmont2235]

Most of them are either paid shills, bots, or ADHD kids who are easily impressed by the explosion and jump cuts. They're not real fans.

[@nathangravitt5982]

It kills me because Jill is my favorite RE character, and RE3 had always been my favorite entry in the series. I like the remake and I love this version of Jill, but I’m still immensely disappointed with what’s missing.

[@WeencieRants]

My biggest fear of them remaking Code Veronica or REmake is cut content. Thankfully I own every version of CV and RE1 so I'll still have the originals to enjoy if Capcom drops the ball.

[@mrpussinboots4252]

Cv deserves cut content. The second half of the game is a disaster.

[@GreenHawk84]

I wish Capcom cared enough, the potential lost is huge.

[@87Kidpoker]

'Half the Fucking game is missing!' Great line

[@michaelclark7447]

What I like about the novelisation of RE2 is that after the tanker crashes into the cop car separating Claire and Leon, they have to take different paths to the police station and end up battling different bosses; Claire and Sherry with Mr X and Leon with Birkin and face different scenarios. But in the remake, the only difference is the character you choose and the game is played exactly the same way.

[@michaelclark7447]

Plus, Leon enters the station via the main doors but Claire has to come through the roof helipad.

[@LostLevelMusic]

That’s not true. Clare has a whole bit at an Orphanage to save Sherry. They add the streets in later on on the way to it.

[@mrpussinboots4252]

The opening streets was repurposed to claires campaign.

[@leigiboy]

RE Remake also cuts the optional first encounter with Rebecca in the save room, is not a big deal(specilay compared with the criminal level cuts from the other remakes) but I would really like to see how they would handle that moment in the remake style.

[@DeanH92]

Don’t forget the incendiary grenades in RE4 Remake :(

[@markcobuzzi826]

I cannot yet say for sure how good of an addition they were, but the RE4 Remake added miniature frag grenades, which only take up one inventory space instead of two. So it seems there was at least an attempt to still have three different grenade types, even if having both incendiary grenades and the new mini-grenades to give us four types in total would have likely been better.

[@Numenorean921]

no bomba roja :(

[@arhickernell]

One of the worst things about RE3 is that we got no DLC. They could've easily fixed the story cuts with a 2 hr story dlc to open up the city and explore the clocktower. And even just mercenaries or a type of mode like ghost survivors. Which wouldn't taken maybe a weekend to program.

[@REDtheBEAST]

Also don't forget the already made extra costumes for jill in REsistance that they could have added to REmake3, thinking about it my god the extra unlockable weapons for REmake 3 sucked(im lookin at you heat knife)

[@arhickernell]

@REDtheBEAST We got a free underfunded, unfinished addon, which was DOA. If they wanted to make a multiplayer game, they needed to do a PVE co-op RE Outbreak remake and stop playing games with these unfinished free addons like REsistance and REverse. Use those extra modes as PVP modes, but the main thing should be using the maps from all the current RE games to make a nice PVE game. Seems like a no-brainer.

[@KisekiFan]

as someone who played the OG RE2 and 3 it was really annoying how badly the split route was done, it literally made no difference which route you took because Leon and Claire route are always fixed, worse is in nest area, how are both Leon and Claire fighting Birkin and meeting Annette when one was suppose to be there 1st than the other. As for RE3 removing the graveyard and clocktower was the worst possible decision there, Nemesis appearance is so predictable that he is not scary anymore.

[@roseserenity0]

Yessss RE2 Remake was good besides the A&B scenario. Like why does MR X follow Claire AND Leon?? Doesn’t make any sense. In the original you either fought Birkin OR Mr X. But the remake only focused on Scenario A.

[@LawlessGaming13]

Same brother. It felt like I paid capcom to spit in my face.

[@gabrielandy9272]

@@roseserenity0 and why should not it follow both? it add quality to teh game to have a character following you.

[@roseserenity0]

@@gabrielandy9272 because it wasn’t like that in the Original. In the original RE2 you had two scenarios A&B. While A was significantly always the easier scenario because you only had boss fights. While in scenario B you had Boss fights and got Mr X following you. The whole point is it would’ve been perfect to have kept it the same in the RE2 Remake. Because in the RE2 Remake you literally play the same game in scenario A and B. The only “difference” is Ada and Sherry. My point is the RE2 remake would’ve been a PERFECT Remake if they kept the scenarios like they’d been in the original and also kept the zapping system. If Capcom hadn’t changed these two things the RE2Remake would’ve been perfect. It’s a great game, great graphics improved in a lot of aspects. Yet failed in these two aspects making the replay ability suffer. Nonetheless it is a great game. Coming from a RE2 fan. The original RE2 is my most played game and I was so hyped when it got announced that it gets remaked. So I think it’s fair enough for me to be slightly disappointed for not incorporating these two things Form the original that’s all.

[@gabrielandy9272]

@@roseserenity0 but the change of mr x following both makes the game better, more fun more challenging its just much superior this way. i do understand the missing of the B run, but the mr x change is a improvment and makes the game better.

[@zacharycornman977]

It was a waste of an opportunity with RE3 RM, the fact there was a guy who was able to 100% the game in a two hour span so that he could do the two hour refund on steam is crazy.

[@Baz87100]

The B scenarios of Claire and Leon in OG 2 were iconic because the other perspective of each character was essentially revealed after completing the A scenarios. It was a masterstroke from Capcom and added huge replay value. If Capcom want to appease the fans, they should be adding a 'classic mode' where they preserve the fixed cameras and allow players to experience the game in its original form. We get that fixed cameras were implemented back in the 90s due to hardware constraints, but that doesn't mean they should be made obsolete. 2d side scrolling platformers and metroidvania games are still produced today because it's a game style that doesn't work for actual 3d platformers.

[@loganford3921]

I'm still kinda disappointed about the Spiders missing in Red 2 and Nemesis along with the clock tower.

[@finger2836]

The fact that they cut the ENTIRE U3 BOSS FIGHT IS WILD. I was so sad, it was genuinely my favorite boss and truly made the original RE4 as scary as it was for younger me

[@thehourman37]

I was sooo pissed at the RE2 remake, and it's frustrating that more people weren't as pissed as I was. I saw all these problems in 2 and then they ALL were made larger in 3. I also especially hate how they butchered Claire as a character, making her have more of a Jill personality and completely doing away with the calm calculating Claire who was my fav character from the original games.

[@splash_067]

THANK YOU! So annoying to see it labeled as a "masterpiece" when its anything but! Too many cut enemies and basically no alt scenarios

[@ZeroOhNine]

Not having the B scenarios kills the replay value for me. Going through the 2nd runs is always a slog. Tbh I didn't get the sense that Claire was given Jill's personality because IMO before 3R Jill was also a very calm and collected person, I think Claire was given the Moira treatment if anything. But I guess it just comes down to different perspectives and opinions. To me Irons was awful in 2R as well and I also felt like Ada was lacking the same warmth she had in the OG. Overall I prefer how Darkside Chronicles did characterizations over what we got in 2019. I'll also _never_ forgive Capcom for how they treated Alyson Court, so there's that too.

[@thehourman37]

@@ZeroOhNine Yes Irons was cartoonishly evil the whole time and they tried to give him drunk uncle at thanksgiving vibes 😂 Whereas in the original he seemed a bit off but was never obviously evil until you read more about him and uncover his bullshit

[@ZeroOhNine]

@@thehourman37 "drunk uncle at Thanksgiving vibes" 🤣🤣 that's great! Sums him up perfectly 😄 Yeah that's what I enjoyed about Irons in the OG, he was a creepy asshole but still scary to be around as you slowly learned more about who he really was. Whereas in the new one yeah he says some awful things in the files but overall is just a loud POS haha. Not scary at all 🙈

[@thehourman37]

@@ZeroOhNine The new one pretty much did away with any and all subtlety

[@escaperaccooncity392]

It still hurts me to this day that RE3 remake was treated poorly in contrast to RE4 remake. Nothing feels familiar with RE3 remake. The game feels rushed to say the least. No exploration, little to no puzzles, no mercenaries mode, city is cut immensely, no clock tower, no graveyard, no dead factory, no grave digger, no spiders, no crows, no nemesis chase sequence, and the list goes on and on.

[@Potidaon]

There are two major changes/omissions in REmake. 1. REmake is way more linear at the beginning, only letting your progress in a more strict, predetermined way. OG RE1 is way more open with multiple routes available from the get go. 2. No dynamic storyline mechanic. In OG RE1, depending on which rooms you visit and in which order, you would get different versions of different scenes, or new scenes altogether. The most obvious example of this is the first zombie encounter. Depending on how you move about, you could kill the zombie, escape to the dining room and have Barry shoot the zombie, or, if you mess around in the dining hall and go back to the main hall before investigating the next room, the zombie will just appear on its own (and Barry shoots it). This can still happen in the remake, but only that one. There are way more such examples in the original.

[@underthemayo]

Agreed, things the original did better.

[@Potidaon]

Thanks for the reply. For sure. Not a knock on the video, though. Just an addendum, since a lot of fans don't remember or aren't aware of them. Good video, came across as very reasonable overall.

[@paulrimmer5824]

And yet Capcom still defends re3 remake. There was a rumour that a new game called Resident Evil Nemisis was going to be made..wait and see.

[@Khaos-Thanathan]

Lets just pretend that RE3R never happened. 🙄 I did enjoy RE2R and RE4R - though I certainly wouldn't call them "definite editions" - precisely due to cut content. RE1R really doesn't need another Remake. It aged remarkably well due to tank controls and prerendered backgrounds. It's still gorgeous.

[@RybatGrimes]

I honestly can’t even play RE3 remake because of how much it hurts. It’s such a shame because it’s a gorgeous game, and Carlos is fantastic… but that’s really about it.

[@daveweaver3886]

Agreed. Carlos and the expanded hospital are really the only positives for me.

[@ZenMonkeyGod]

It just feels like a playable version of those abysmal live action films.

[@Potidaon]

Same. It's the first RE I owned so it feels special to me. I don't feel obligated to play the remake despite that. There's a lot of other things I can spend that money and 5+ hours on, when I know I'm just gonna be disappointed for a lot of it.

[@MARTINLOUISR]

im so disapointed what they did to resident evil 3 remake. resident evil 3 was my first resident evil game i played. a introduction that got me hooked in the resident evil series

[@cerromeceo]

Nothing should've been cut. RE1Remake was a masterpiece, and it was the set standard. The other remake, especially RE3, kind of bothered me

[@lastofman2876]

I really hope that the cut content from re4 (such as u3, ski lift part) is put in the separate ways dlc

[@ashlynnshoolroy28]

I would love that. Strangely, with my experience playing the re4 remake, I noticed the redesigns of castle rooms and only noticed a couple locations cut (which is still weird given I played the original and would have known). But the cut content became more noticeable on the island where I realized there wasn't going to be a U3 boss fight when I was already at Mike's section. It actually created a small void in my experience when I thought there needed to be something more on the island like the U3 boss fight when there wasn't. Re4 though added a few new locations and experiences in the process and expanding more on puzzle solving in areas which I loved and adding merchant side quests. It added the cave in the village and achieved perfect exploration with the lake and added to the ruins on the island. The castle felt more smooth because one of my annoyances with the original was that storywise I had to save Ashley several times although I thought the clocktower sequence could have been a little longer (which the they probably shortened because the castle has treasures and merchant side quests that make you backtrack a lot through areas and explore the sections you played in as Ashley). I may be the only one, but going into the OG Re4 knowing the story of Re2, I was extremely disappointed with Ada's and Leon's interactions with each other in the cut scenes. I thought the cut scenes in the Re4 remake made the story of the game fantastic. Overall, the experience was great, and I am still playing the remake because of the gameplay achievements, and finding more secrets.

[@Skillfulstone]

Several factors are pointing towards Separate Ways being much bigger than the original Separate Ways. The 2nd Verdugo just vanishes at _some_ point and is never seen again in the remake. In the original the 2nd Verdugo was merged with Salazar for his boss battle but in the remake Salazar is a standalone monster and yet the 2nd Verdugo is nowhere to be found, implying that it might have fought and died to Ada at some point. A few voice files found by dataminers also suggests that Ada will fight alongside Luis during Separate Ways, something that never happened in the og. I'm not sure about the U-3 since even in the original this creature showed up almost completely out of left field with only a few sentences and a short note to announce it's existence, even the location in which you fought it was strange and out of place (still remember the most random hook in the history of hooks at the end for Leon to grab XD). If they _do_ bring back the U-3 fight somehow (or something equivalent to it since in the remake there is no mention _anywhere_ that this creature exists) then it will likely be much different than in the og. I don't know what is so special about the ski lift that people are so upset that it's gone. It was an unmemorable segment that lasted basically 60 seconds and only required a handful of Punisher or Rifle ammo to go through with 0 effort. The only reason people remember it so much is because it was a _very_ slow moment after 2 action-filled sections (the cabin holdout and then the Gigante and/or Chainsaw sisters fort).

[@ashlynnshoolroy28]

@@Skillfulstone Yes I did notice the lift moment was gone, but for some reason like the other stuff, I didn't notice probably because like you described, it didn't seem as impactful to the gameplay. The cave expansion at the lake though was fun. That section to me probably was the funnest part of the game

[@KingExplorer107]

​@@Skillfulstone U-3 was mentioned in the Throne room in the re4 remake. It was in a document next to the Golden Egg.

[@Skillfulstone]

@@KingExplorer107 Wasn't "U-3" used as the code name for the Verdugos in the remake? The notes of the (former) servant who became a Verdugo (Isidro Uriarte Talavera, that's some name XD) seems to imply that Novistadors were "U-2" and Verdugo was "U-3" since the servant who became Verdugo was the same man who created Novistadors and "named" them U-2 before his "hound", and later himself, underwent the insect-human hybrid transformation to become the executioners (the literal translation for "Verdugo") of Salazar. It would make sense since the Verdugos indeed have insect-like characteristics and Novistadors, the "U-2" were the previous inferior version of the new species. The note where this is said I think is named "Chronicles of Pursuit 2"; "October, eight years since my awakening- At last, my noble pursuit progresses to its final stage: the fusion of human and insect. The housekeeper has graciously volunteered herself for the experiment. I shall pour my whole heart into this endeavor in order to transcend humanity and make Master Ramón proud, March, nine years since my awakening- A glorious union has been made! The housekeeper has endured much suffering, but not for naught! Behold, the fruits of our labor in all its beauty! I shall consecrate this perfect lifeform with the name “U-III,” for III is the most beautiful and complete number. April, nine years since my awakening - U-III, my dear hound “Pesanta,” has been chosen to serve as the right hand of Master Ramón. But is two not better than one? Now, it is my turn to demonstrate my loyalty. His humble servant, Isidro Uriarte Talavera" If a creature similar to the og RE4 U-3 does make an appearance, it will likely be in Separate Ways alongside the 2nd Verdugo who just vanishes from the game at some point despite not being used in Salazar's transformation like in the og, which makes me think Ada kills it at some point.

[@LightYagami-rz6su]

RE2R had A LOT of cuts! The A and B Scenarios was a BIG part of RE2. They cut ALL of the dialog between Leon and Claire throughout the gameplay. Even Leon and Sherry interactions. The Zapping system too. Plus Mr. X is supposed to ONLY chase B scenario (AKA Leon Story).

[@underthemayo]

Yeah there were some painful cuts in RE2. I'm not defending them. But they're just not comparable to RE3. Also, saying "Mr X is SUPPOSED to only come in the B Scenario" I don't think is a valid criticism. Like, who cares? Isn't it better for him to be a core part of the experience? I think it is.

[@LightYagami-rz6su]

@underthemayo the Mr X in only B side makes the second run more memorable and make it a true second run. Just like how it was in the original. I think RE2R cuts are just as bad as RE3R. In my personal opinion. Replaying the original and playing the remake showed me how much they ruined this "remake".

[@SackoYT]

Cutting the no thanks bro line, and the phone calls between Leon and Salazar or Saddler cut me. Sometimes cutting/changing for the sake of the games tone or direction does makes sense, i.e. RE4R. Doesn't mean I like it though. RE3R is like expecting the same meal you've always enjoyed, but two thirds of it are missing and you're still hungry. I agree with the consensus that RE1 remake is still the best remake, and it aligns with my beliefs about what a remake should be, which is to keep everything intact and just refine the same gameplay and overhaul the graphics. As for RE2R, I feel that Leon and Claire needed more scenes together, like in the original RE2.

[@suokkis]

I think that remakes should add to the original, not cut content. RE2 remake for one cut the spiders, RE1 Remake cut one room but added so many other things, harder puzzles, crimson heads, the forest cabin and Lisa Trevor etc.... RE3 remake.... not worth even talking about it. RE1 Remake should be the standard for any remake following. Imagine if it could have been botched like the RE3 remake, and they removed the entire Guard House and parts of the mansion completely.

[@Kabutoes]

Re 4 remake felt like there was less story even though it’s longer than original re 4

[@jd7507]

They did attempt it later with Revelations 2 and it kinda worked, everything you do in Claire's campaign is reflected in Barry's.

[@underthemayo]

Ah, my familiarity with the non-main line entries is admittedly weak.

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

REmake>>RE1 RE2>RE2 REmake RE3 Nemesis>>RE3 REmake I am *Dead Serious*

[@chadmueller9135]

You're obviously right

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

@@chadmueller9135 I know, but sometimes I lean towards a *Draw* between OG RE2 and RE2 REmake

[@chadmueller9135]

@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 Nah OG is better. More fleshed out. Remake2 is good, but its rushed

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

@@chadmueller9135 Yeah I tend to agree

[@Rorschach97]

I agree

[@igormmx]

Re3 made my wife leave me.

[@procow2274]

The original re had goofy voice acting on purpose they wanted to do an American b movie feel. That's why the characters speak in English in both versions.

[@dariusharris9696]

Or because the translation from Japanese to English wasn’t that good, and the people that voiced them weren’t professional va’s💀

[@JustFun-ho6qy]

I seriously doubt it. The bad voice acting in the original RE was almost certainly unintentional. Literally every English language track from Japanese games from that era was awful. Heck, the English voice acting from the 2001 RE remake, while certainly a step above, was still pretty awful all things considered.

[@MetalGearEnthusiast]

​@@JustFun-ho6qy "JILL NO"

[@rohithkumar8708]

you're confusing re with silent hill . silent hill 2 intentionally had a monotonous voice acting to make them sound distant and lost

[@dntremad8290]

the classic resi evils have bad voice acting not because it was intentional but because that was capcom at the early 3D days. Literally every single capcom game before 2005 has terrible voice acting

[@Ishitonyou666]

3:00 they also cut giant moths in the Lab area

[@underthemayo]

Yeah, that was always kinda weird. Maybe they could have done something with it. Maybe just coming across it being all mutated in the background.

[@Ishitonyou666]

@@underthemayo I agree, I do remember the laboratory in the OG RE 2 was longer but oh well, but RE3 remake was a huge disappointment.

[@kingalastor936]

The fact B scenario was never supposed to exist in re2 remake makes me want to bash my head into a wall. B scenario and espesually the zapping system made re2 unique. They had four years to remake re2, wtf were they doing for so long? The game isn't even that big to say "four years of development". Btw, the problem is not cut content. The problem is lack of remade content. Its not cut content as that content was not remade. P. S. I think you might know this at this point, re3 remake was purposelly made to last five hours. It was not short due to low budget or short schedule.

[@michaelclark7447]

Why wasn't the RE3 remake given the same love, care and effort that RE4 got???

[@daveweaver3886]

My theory is that they outsourced it to their less experienced team because they cared more about working on Village and their cash cow RE4.

[@juniperburton7693]

​@@daveweaver3886 The other team might not have been less experienced. They packaged it with REsistance. It was rushed.

[@artansadiki3244]

Re4 is Crapcoms cashcow. Thats why

[@mateoreyes6921]

Greed

[@swarmX]

Im a sucker for hoping Capcom will do right by 3 remake one day, and release a directors cut w/ the cut stuff.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

You should look into the modding community. They'll do it better than Capcom ever will at this stage. There's some seriously impressive mods in Unreal and RE Engine for RE3 right now.

[@Laocoon283]

The real problem is the change in the core philosophy of game design. The originals were designed to make you feel lost and not exactly sure what you have to do to progress. Essentially it was giant escape room experience. Now game developers never ever want a player to feel like he's not supposed to know where to go or what to do next so the maps are completely streamlined and the puzzles basically have giant blinking neon signs on them so you know what to do. It completely negates that lost helpless feeling that the originals encapsulated so well. Which is the exact way a survival horror game is supposed to make you feel you are not supposed to feel so powerful and in control.

[@Laocoon283]

@neckneck ok lol I never mentioned anything about time. The originals were very short games. If your so busy that you don't have a couple hours of recreational time a week then you you probably shouldn't be playing video games to begin with. Also not every game has to be equally accessible to the everyone. Just play a different game if its too hard for you.

[@Laocoon283]

@neckneck sure bud

[@walter4180]

You're really overstating at least RE2 and it's remake Original 2 in the A scenario was exceptionally streamlined and only opened up your options in the B scenario. Pretty freaking hard to get lost lol You still had options to move around multiple places and explore but ultimately, progression was both very easy and linear RE2R's is pretty faithful to that lol

[@Laocoon283]

@neckneck Yea well that always happens with media. You end up watering down the product to make it appeal to the most people possible. Music, literature, movies etc etc. Why make an absolutely stellar product that only appeals to a niche group when you can make a sub par product that is more accessible to everyone. Make alot more money the latter way.

[@jiado6893]

Thank you for that early differentiation between cut content, and reimagined content. It strengthens your video by being informative, and intellectually honest. It’s also cool to know that writing the script and verbalizing your opinions helped you find your feelings on things. That happens to me a lot when I write essays.

[@BradGamingClips]

I don't know if this was mentioned already so forgive me, but I think them scrapping the epilogues for the other characters in 3Remake hurt it as well! Those helped fill in gaps in the story line and setup quite a bit. It was so bad the only way to fix it would have been a Code Veronica Remake to retcon and work their way backwards to a Re1 remake. But that's just my personal scream into the void.

[@bezerk-z3697]

I demand REmake2/3 director cuts. 😅

[@kiritosoloplayer3958]

I agree with your points my guy as a RE original player all the way up to 7 haven’t gotten 8 yet i agree with the RE 3 remake disaster I loved RE 3 , 2 , 1, and 4 the most and 3 and code Veronica was my favorite of the older games and I was livid About RE3 Remake.

[@omartaj7010]

I've said this before and I'll say it again. We don't need an RE5 Remake. We need an RE3 Remake.

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

A remake of a remake? Oh no

[@siuuuu7229]

it's not about what you need it's about what's profitable 🤣

[@ProsecutorValentine]

Corpos do not care about gamer needs, what they want from you boy is your next paycheck and consume everything on sight they have to offer. Screw the demand, screw the devs complains, screw the three guys outside that unionize, and screw video games as artistry. Profit, profit, profit!

[@danielgeronimo5538]

@@ProsecutorValentine And yet those corpos has remastered Metroid Prime and allowed Metroid Dread to happen, as well as Dead Space Remake to happen, so on and so forth. I get how gamers can be jaded by the state of the industry. But in terms of business, customer care is important as it allows people to keep buying. To say it's about profit yet deny needs is sorely misguided.

[@walter4180]

We need a CV remake to actually make that game good

[@DaBeastOfDaWeas]

12:38- I think an RE3 remake redux would actually sell really well and is something they should do after an RE1 remake or CV remake. That is if there is enough fan support.

[@DaBeastOfDaWeas]

they definitely have a chance to blow it out of the water, scrapping the intro for something slower paced, connecting it to the mansion incident better. Making the city map bigger, adding playtime through previously cut content, even somehow integrating an RE Outbreak remake would make it worth a 60 dollar game in alot of peoples minds

[@TerraEx]

It's incredible how badly they dropped the ball with RE3R. I remember playing RE2R with Mr.X dynamically searching for you in the RPD and imagining how amazing Nemesis could be if he had a similar AI system, but operating throughout most of the game. Instead what we got was a few scripted sequences sprinkled through a game missing half its content. Biggest crime was this was probably their own chance to do right by the game and they phoned it in and completely blew it. I don't care if it was the B team working on RE3R; the end result is the game's a pale shadow of what it could have been and Capcom had so little pride in their work or reverence for the original that they thought what we got was good enough to release. Such a shame, Nemesis should have Mr.X on steroids, stalking and surprising you dynamically and constantly throughout the game, RE2R already had a basic framework to do it in place.

[@mosj9876]

I forgot about that one room in RE1REmake. Its still there but you just cant access the room. Still, I think the RE1Remake IS the Blue Print on how to properly do A remake. I give RE1REmake a perfect score , whereas i give RE4REimagine an 8/10. RE4 OG feels big even though maps are smaller butin RE4REimagine the maps are big but it plays very compact you roughly get through the areas pretty quick, even with the added content. It feels smaller despite looking at how beautiful it looks. Content should never be cut because I am of the belief you can tweak the areas that felt weak and make it better.

[@Miguelnumbers]

Resident Evil 1 Remake it's still the best Remake to date, the entirely opposite of Resident Evil 3 Remake. My complain about Re4 Remake is mostly menus, modes and extras. I wish we had gotten Assigment Ada as a "taste" of Ada Wong's gameplay, alongside her commando suit. I wish we had a menu that allowed us to rewatch cutscenes like the original. And missed on a lot of costumes; Pop Star Ashley, RPD Leon, Shirtless Krauser, Black Suit Wesker, Classic Luis and Classic Ada (because the new dress is black and doesn't show her legs) and hell, if I was Capcom I would've made playable Saddler and Playable Merchant. We already got Lady D, right? Either way, keep calm and hate Resident Evil 3 Remake.

[@Gwilliker178]

I really wanted to thank you for this content as you recently resparked my love or RE. I played it as a child on my dads ps1. I only had re 2,3 and nightmare creature 2. Now I’ve comeback to the remakes loving them as an adult playing then with my baby brother like my dad did. Literally all from your RE3 review thank you.

[@Nevad25]

Transforming Nemesis into a dog, cutting the city exploration, cutting the Clock Tower, so much went wrong with Resident Evil 3 Remake. The original RE3 on PS1 is my favorite title with Resident Evil 2 and I couldn't wait to get my hands on the remake. What a disappointment it turned out to be.

[@Cool70sfreak]

I think what frustrates me most about RE3R apart from the exclusion of the clock tower is live selection being totally gone and thus removing one of the cornerstones of RE3's replay value