Unexpected outlanding I am terribly sorry for @ 2019-07-28 Vilnius Cup (SZD 48-3)

[@GeirWaterloo]

Wow, that final turn was low...

[@danestark7372]

This was very hard to watch.... so glad it turned out ok.... and thankful you shared it.... It was an "inexpensive lesson".... and one we can all learn from.

[@libelle3]

Thank you Domas for sharing The most important thing is that you´ve realised the mistakes you did (everybody has done them, just remember to think while gliding and not gling in "automatic mode"). Best regards from La Cerdanya

[@germanstorms2785]

I can hear my instructors screaming in that final turn. Good job flying!

[@adampoultney8737]

It is commendable to share this despite the mistakes you made. I hope this prevents another pilot from making the same errors which may not end as well as they did here

[@ViewBothSides]

Thanks for posting (& recording) this. Interesting to watch how another pilot operates. My personal rule-of-thumb is one mistake (forgetting to back up the server, flying too fast in a final glide) is 'normal', but more than one requires really careful consideration.

[@MrBerzulis]

Yes, and it is much easier to think about it on the ground !

[@rafabeton609]

Domas, thank you for sharing. Quite scary indeed. It felt like you could have slowed down to best glide way sooner which could have saved you from outlanding. But also the decision to outland was very late and low. I'm glad you're here to share the story yourself. Not to mention how close your wingtip was from the ground on that final turn. That was dangerous. 😱

[@MrBerzulis]

I know that Rafa, that was my mistake

[@rafabeton609]

@@MrBerzulis I know, not trying to tell you off, you already realised all the mistakes. As a glider pilot myself I hope I don't get in the same situation, but it's easier said from the comfort of my chair.

[@josefsoltes8572]

Holy moly, I am really glad, you are sharing those videos. A lot to learn and everyone flying a lot has probably a lot of similar videos, but that final turn was me feeling like throwing up.

[@MrBerzulis]

Yes, hard to watch for me also..

[@martyryan2529]

Very lucky to walk away unscathed. Well done!

[@miksal26]

I thought that he would intercept the cloud street on his left , or perhaps it was further away than it appeared in his video. Cheers from Downunder 👍🇦🇺😷😷😷. PS every outlanding that is successful is a good landing. Every power pilot should challenge himself and gain a gliding endorsement. . Only then will he appreciate the virtue of accurate landings and realise that every landing is a forced landing when gliding as it lacks the luxury of a go-round . This can also add confidence when dealing with engine problems that may result in having to make a decision whether to carry on the flight or find a spot to land .

[@federicoleone923]

thanks for posting for the community

[@LSVFlachkurbler]

late in the day the best line is always the woods. Maybe a slight deviation to the left and avoiding the sink above the corn fields would have also saved you ? I think the last turn was OK because you had enough speed.

[@parkburrets4054]

It's hard for me to judge height on these videos, so my comment may be way off base. I always have a place to land in mind. As I move along course, I pick another one. At some point, say 600 ft AGL, you need to commit to landing. Changing your mind can be a killer.

[@motionsiik4964]

Wow, great learning video. Thank you for posting. Ignore the haters. It's easy to be an armchair pilot. In the moment, however, things are quite a bit more difficult.

[@MrBerzulis]

Thank You, bro, fly safe !

[@mariuszryszczyk6182]

Thanks for sharing!! Best regards from Poland :)

[@MrBerzulis]

My pleasure, greetings to Poland !

[@grzegorzsocha7110]

Nice video😁 Thanks

[@timothyclark7052]

He slowed down to land. If I’m trying to make those good looking clouds at the end, would it not make sense to slow down before the clouds to maximize your glide to get to the good stuff? This seems like a risky landing that could have at least been delayed if not eliminated.

[@SuperReasonable]

Quite odd. Boring along at 80 knots with no lift and good clouds in the distance. Why not stretch the glide at max L/D to make the good lift ahead?

[@MrBerzulis]

Can’t disagree with you! I’ve asked myself these questions and made some conclusions... after landing out:) fly high and fast! Cheers;)!

[@MrBerzulis]

Do You ever read video description guys?

[@dLoLe]

@@elkcircle7245 Putting things like that on KZbin is the best thing a pilot can do. We've all done mistakes - few of us are brave enough to show them publicly so that others can learn

[@gonegliding2966]

Outlandings happen. You've recognised your mistakes and because of that, you are open to learning. I doubt you'll make the same mistake again. good video. DG glider ?

[@MrBerzulis]

This is Jantar standart, I am sure I will, What do you call a mistake in this situation? Outlanding?;) Made more than fingers on hands this season:) Hoppefully it was a bit better planned:)

[@gonegliding2966]

@@MrBerzulis I think you covered most mistakes in your description. Biggest one I saw was the late decision to outland. I made the same mistake and wrecked my undercarriage .

[@MrBerzulis]

@@gonegliding2966, last Year I've damaged undercarriage on really good airport - there was hole and was totally invisible (sinkhole?) as It took some time to find it and it was wheel size. Unfortunately, my o pro was out of juice.. Talking about this video, there are mistakes made to avoid outlanding, and mistakes made after outlanding become unavoidable, I think. I quite good know this region, because it is within few kilometers from home airport.. and there is a lot of woods if you go straight, as I am scared of woods.. I made big deviaton to right to have some field options. It was first outlanding with this glider. Thank You for Your comments! Fly safe!

[@BillPalmer]

Wow, that low 180° was a surprise to me. At what point did you have your field picked out and approach plan?

[@MrBerzulis]

I think at about 400m I've accepted the fact that I won't land in my home airfield as I deviated to right (to go straight to airfield was scary with that height, because it goes thru woods, no place to land) to have options of airfields. My target was one of the airfields across the road because I know this area.That specific airfield I've picked at height of 50m as I saw a power lines on approach to next one and others seemed not so good.

[@TheSoaringChannel]

@@MrBerzulis read your comment. In your comment you say there's nowhere to land over the woods. But on your latest one: you say there are. Where is the decision path for carrying out an outlanding? At 3000' a general area. At 2000' a specific area. At 1500' 3 fields. Fly a pattern across them to find hazards. At 1000' enter a pattern and land at one specific field.... Ok so in meters you'd be at 300m and flying a pattern. None of this happened. Please explain why you aren't giving yourself safety margins for arrival height. Screw the competition. Make the safety height yourself. I will not arrive less than 1000' at my airfield. Period. It makes it less stressful and more enjoyable, ya know. Ok, try it with 500' arrivals? Good grief. 😳

[@MrBerzulis]

@@TheSoaringChannel are you comparing it with this kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4StemOZZqqno6M&lc=UgxuwWKrpvb6tA09O-V4AaABAg.9TjXl4s9IEk9Us6vXeDj1p ? If so, these are one of my first land outs. Yes, same airfield, same direction, different conditions. There is 2 years gap between videos and july vs august (airfields is changing fast), different conditions - different wind, experience, preparation. Actually, this method of heights and patterns is essential and works perfectly in unknown area - it is never a great idea to land out on a rush. But also, during gliding competition nobody does final glide with such height margin - always converting it to speed. It is not just about being undertaken - going fast means that you are going to jump all the sink fast. We are discussing subtle things and details is really matters. Cheers! Stay safe !

[@Joeyglide]

@@MrBerzulis This video was scary to watch, but I have had several situations which would have been scary to watch if they were filmed as well. I think back to them often, and all we can do is learn from the situations. They are, without exception, all during competition flying. It seems to be a natural thing we do to reduce margins when we are flying in competitions, which I think is important to realise and actively compensate for. I haven't had a really marginal final glide or scared myself for a while now, and I am happy about that, I have learnt from my past experiences as I am sure you have from this. That doesn't mean finishing every task at 1000' though! Suggesting you start looking for fields at 3000' is just ridiculous. You aren't flying in the alps here. We often fly on days with a 3000' cloud base! Arm chair pilots will tell you this and that, like you have said, it is very different in the moment. So is starting your pattern at 1000'. Those blanket rules mean nothing as you could be in an area where you could shut your eyes, point the glider into wind, and have landed in a suitable field when you open them. One thing I would mention is, although it is very hard to tell distances on video, you seem to stop routing and fly straight from when I assume the computer says you are on final glide. The further out I am, the more I route to energy as I would during a normal glide between climbs. My routing becomes narrower and fly more directly to the airfield as I get closer and am certain I am in. Thanks for sharing, what not to do and an explanation of the thought process which lead to the situation is helpful for all.

[@bobarmitage7981]

Domas, I think that you should sit down with an instructor and show him the video.

[@MrBerzulis]

Appreciate your worry, actually that was first thing I've done after returning from field. Merry Christmas!

[@sectokia1909]

The video is hard to tell height. But it looks like you did a straight in approach all the way down to 100ft!? Then did turns at 30ft?

[@MrBerzulis]

I think that turn was at 20 -25 meters (65ft?)

[@carljacobs1287]

Do you have an audio vario? Or was that linked to your radio problems. You flew right through two sources of lift without even slowing down. Two weekends ago I flew 50km in a libelle with not a single bump of lift, the sky was blue so I flew at maximum L/D which is only 51 knots. I don't fly competition, but many now have a minimum ending height to try and avoid this situation.

[@MrBerzulis]

Now I surely have it ;) I can't hear a vario on this video either :)

[@jacekpiterow900]

Flying like a boss !

[@MrBerzulis]

Thanks, but not so sure about that :D

[@mArt2011funflydesign]

You could have made an extra few km if you had traded your high speed for a better sink rate, surely you could have gone to 80 kts ?

[@MrBerzulis]

Yes, one of the way to get home is to fly slower in early stage of a final glide and increase your safety altitude flying slower than your MC. But if you are low and slow - heavy sink will instantly end your day

[@joemanganese]

Almost killed yourself. Get an instructor, do not compete.

[@ramonramirez1228]

Do not perform steep turns neat the ground.....!!

[@mikeking7351]

You forgot.......dont make 90degree turns at 20 ft on final! WN - USA. But....... any landing you can walk away from is a great landing.

[@carljacobs1287]

There are bold pilots and old pilots - that turn was crazy! Even the landing gear came out too late IMHO.

[@MrBerzulis]

@@carljacobs1287 landing gear is an airbrake :)

[@MrBerzulis]

That was more like 180 turn I believe :)

[@carljacobs1287]

@@MrBerzulis 7:42 to me looks like landing gear. At

[@MrBerzulis]

@@carljacobs1287 don't get me wrong, this video was posted with no aim to be instructional video "how to make safe outlanding". I can see a lot tactical and executive mistakes In it. I have posted it as a DON'T. How not to get in situation like this and how not to do if You realise that you are already in a situation like this. But there is few points I can't 100 % agree to you. You are talking about reserve as a height, but energy is not a height only. It's a speed also. That's what saved me from crash. Landing gear has a secondary effect and I've extracted it late with purpose not to loose energy. The worst thing in executing this landing was sideslip that wasn't "meant to be" and with lower speed would be critical. I am always checking myself, thats why I am filming almost every take off and landing to check it after. That was first outlanding with this type of glider in my life. And in fields near my airfield. After this outlanding I've made few hundreds of flight hours, dozen or more outlandings and my safety margin of height is definitely higher, manoeuvres are more coordinated. Thak You for Your comment and fly safe!

[@jgmendes3664]

You dont defy a blue hole without any penalty. Best course should be a little left of the path you took. It us clear from the beginning... Even later a deviation to the left could save the flight. Gear down was too late. Approach turns also too late a too low. Thank God it ended well...

[@krzysztofrodak876]

What software do you use to merge the speed info with the video ?

[@MrBerzulis]

I was using go pro software to add gauges. Every camera from gopro 5 can do this. On a mac/pc should be programd“quik”. Also you can do it on your phone using gopro app.

[@krzysztofrodak876]

​@@MrBerzulis thanks, I'll try that. Looks way nicer than DashWare, I'm using at the moment

[@Aki-xm7yl]

Nicely done, but coulve slowed down way more

[@MrBerzulis]

probably, but It didnt felt like I have much options in this particular situation after final turn

[@onniasikainen777]

What the hell happened here :D

[@MrBerzulis]

Probably it's a rhetorical question. Try to remember your first outlanding with new type of glider, could helpful in understanding process :)

[@onniasikainen777]

@@MrBerzulis I understand that mistakes happen and we do strange things under pressure. That landing just looks unbelivable. It ended well so everything OK. It looks like the wing had to hit ground but it did not.

[@onniasikainen777]

@@MrBerzulis I once forgot to check the wind direction and it was blowing hard. Landed in 90degree to the wind. A telemark. Szd55. Nothing broke So I was lucky

[@MrBerzulis]

@@onniasikainen777 I pushed it as close as I can to keep my speed as high as possible and checked to be sure I won't collide . That wasn't sooooo close, not every detail is visible on VIDEO. But You are wright , there is no need to measure wings length that way..

[@MrBerzulis]

@@onniasikainen777 Fly safe !

[@stanislouse4168]

WTF was THAT??? Get rid of that cell phone.

[@marauder7233]

HOdně zbytečný risk u přistání ..... od 100 metrů výšky by pilot neměl u přistání měnit směr přiblížení

[@glider1157]

For my opinion too low in final turn.

[@MrBerzulis]

Yes, indeed.