Unexplained Solar Cycle Anomaly Found in Ancient Texts (Maunder Minimum)

[@ScientiaHistoria]

An unsung scientific hero in this story is the astronomer Jack Eddy. He rediscovered Maunder’s work, used historical records to corroborate the finding, and was dismissed by his colleagues for wasting his time on such a wrongheaded idea as a changing sun, even losing his job in budget cuts. Eventually his work was accepted and he is lauded as one of the most creative researchers in the field. (See his wiki page.)

[@runs_through_the_forest]

science history is riddled with such stories, a group think attitude in academia does hold back mostly very dedicated and serious people who just seem to have that natural flair for thinking outside of the box, thus being able to discover very important details in out shared understanding of how the universe works.. my favorite example is Birkeland's spot on work in which he totally nailed how the aurora's actually are generated, decades before observational evidence from satellite confirmed it. all that time the big names of astrophysics called it nonsense and Alfvén who followed up on Birkeland's work even got blocked from publishing paper, can you imagine, a brilliant and totally dedicated man who got the nobel prize in physics for his MHD work gets blocked from publishing in all major publications.. that groupthink cognitive bias can do this in academia seems so unnecessary, but hey we are all flawed human beings right.. this makes me mention today's n°1 so called "crackpot" shunned genius, yeah you are right, the man who against all logic proposes the sun might be liquid, metallic hydrogen instead of gaseous plasma, p.m. robitaille, mention that name to any science communicator or astrophysicist and feel the tension rise.. imagine calling a spectroscopist/chemist with decades of leading work in radiology a crackpot who should be ignored, just because he work on a controversial hypothesis.. anyhow, an open mind has proved to be equally as valuable in the long term progress as working to disprove an ignored hypothesis..

[@freeforester1717]

Advances in our condition and knowledge seldom come from the mainstream, most derive from those thinking outside or on the fringe of the ‘conventional wisdom’ box.

[@alexsetterington3142]

With those attitudes its amazes me any progress is made at all

[@alexsetterington3142]

It really disgusts me that supposedly educated people would think that way

[@gravitonthongs1363]

@@runs_through_the_forestthose scientists were proponents for many speculations well outside of the scientific method, so probably not the best examples to use.

[@Dysputant]

Humanity: I hope 2024 will be less eventful Sun: ....burp.... Humanity : Who turned off... everything ?

[@juhajuntunen7866]

Maybe only military electronics survived? Uh huh...

[@mikestain5963]

Agree

[@AwesometownUSA]

I just finished listening to the podcast series _Hell On Earth,_ about the social and political upheaval of the 17th Century (Thirty Years War, English Civil War, etc). The show ties these conflicts back to the “Little Ice Age” that occurred, causing crop failures and precarious scarcity. It’s scope is limited primarily to Europe, but I def recommend for anyone interested in learning about history and the political landscape of this period. :)

[@Spectre-wd9dl]

The same thing happened in 1815/16 after Mt tambora erupted.

[@generaleerelativity9524]

Yes of course agriculture was a major issue during these time periods and Royalty had always stayed well informed and educated on these matters compared to commoners who had no choice but to follow their commands or starve to death. Some monarchs even had first pick of the crops before anything could be taken to market and then taxed again. The definition of poor today still doesn't come close to being poor back then where having food altogether was considered a luxury.

[@billheineman472]

GSMinimums ~crop shortages, pestulence and wars go hand in hand ... GSMinimums have DESTROYED past civilizations. Research shows that a GSM very likely resulted in the END of the Bronze Age.

[@alansnyder8448]

Regarding the Maunder Minimum and the Little Ice Ages... One idea that I heard is that during the time the sun's magnetic field was weak and as a result, cosmic ray activity was much higher. And those cosmic rays can actually seed cloud formation. So the idea is the during the Maunder Minimum the increased comic rays could have seeded many more white cloud tops cooling the Earth under those clouds.

[@TV-xm4ps]

Cosmic rays have no effect on the climate. Google it.

[@dreddredd7137]

As the sun has very low activity cosmic rays can enter the solar system and can hit earths atmosphere . If these cosmic rays enter the atmosphere they can hit nitrogen and if that is happening in combination with oxygen it does spallation and make Beryllium-10 and Carbon-14 , in some years a ( big ? ) part of Carbon-14 oxidices to CO2 , hence the ZERO Agenda .

[@carolgebert7833]

The Svensmark Hypothesis

[@pazsion]

Yea but during this period there wasn’t a cooling period 🤔 So a weak sun doesn’t explain any of our ice ages 🤓🧐 But we still need a lot more information. I was really worried we wouldn’t find any kind of data or evidence. Man am I happy to hear we found something we can actually compare data and check ourselves based on facts.

[@alansnyder8448]

@@pazsion How warm or cold a specific period is, is determined as a summation of many factors. The effects of cloud formation seem to be the one that is most overlooked currently.

[@CheatOnlyDeath]

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[@tydewalt5425]

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[@secretagent86]

I always click like right at the start. He is that good i know that i can count on high quality

[@jarrettesselman8144]

@@secretagent86soon there will be no more you.

[@therealzilch]

You said it. Anton is a gift.

[@jarrettesselman8144]

@@therealzilch your atheist venture against the majority was a huge mistake. Soon, no more you.

[@ravendon]

1,000 years of astronomical observations! Way to go, Korea!!!!

[@Klaatu2Too]

It is interesting to note that the global cooling that began in the 1940s ended in the 1970s when solar activity increased to it's highest level in hundreds of years. In fact, that is why Skylab deorbited early and crashed into Australia - the warmer atmosphere expanded. FYI, in 1970 I attended a lecture about climate change. It was about are we entering a new ice age?

[@terrymckenzie8786]

There are so many factors involved for sure. Easy to be tricked.

[@ricksterallain]

I find it quite amazing that "scientists" will simultaneously admit that the climate is so insanely complex with almost uncountable variables and at the same time exclaim that they know what the future will be. JWST is out there showing how all our models are broken yet I'm supposed to believe climate models are accurate?

[@terrymckenzie8786]

@@ricksterallain I will listen to science models, and be willing to change them when it is appropriate. It’s the only thing we have got.

[@robertmusil1107]

@@ricksterallain Models are models. If you have better models suggest them. The only thing science can do is work with the currently available models that all say that we're probably fucked if we pump out too much CO2. If you find a new model that disproves this, everyone would love to see it because it would mean that we can delay green transition. It would reduce the costs and all the capitalists would jump in the air and hold hands + finance your research. But this clearly isn't the case.

[@diggysoze2897]

I don’t believe you. I find it amazing that randos on the internet pretend they know more than the people who literally study the subject for a living. I don’t think you actually disagree with the scientific consensus - you know damn well that you’re just spouting propaganda. JWST isn’t breaking models. Distance in space is measured in light-years - a measurement of time - so if JWST can see further than other telescopes obviously it’s going to see further into the past than other telescopes, thus increasing the age of the universe

[@noahbrown1274]

I wish more people had an interest in learning things like this.

[@norddorian5791]

People prefer listening to propaganda

[@Kalbuir66]

At this rate I wish people had the urge to learn anything at all.

[@odeball22]

It's seems 1.2 million people do

[@the80hdgaming]

As a ham radio operator and shortwave listener, I'm glad that period of extreme solar minimum happened back in the 1600's... Radio propagation would have been absolutely terrible... 😂😂

[@dj-kq4fz]

HF comms (on aircraft) over the oceans are difficult enough on a normal day. An extended solar max (or min, perhaps) would be impossible. SATCOM datalink helps, but who knows if that would still be reliable.

[@major__kong]

FT8 cures all ills.

[@geraldfrost4710]

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[@theunluckycharm9637]

​@geraldfrost4710 let's not

[@geraldfrost4710]

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[@anthonyphilbin7722]

A field still in its infancy, and yet one very limited data set is apparently enough for us to dismiss the sun as being an influence on the Earth's climate? Besides there already being established correlations with its high energy particles and cloud formation, the mere premise that our star's activities have no effect on the Earth's climate is simply preposterous. This planet very obviously had a significantly and regularly changing climate long before homo sapiens started sniffing around for leftovers, and anthropogenic factors are only especially evident at this point in time because we've been living in such an anomalous period of climate calm since the Younger Dryas. When the Sun really wakes up and hits us with its next, very cyclical impacts, our hubris will be the first thing to burn

[@gravitonthongs1363]

But nobody dismissed its influence

[@ThePowerLover]

@@gravitonthongs1363Anton did it by lying about "solar irradiance" being the only thing that could "warm" the planet from the Sun.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

@@ThePowerLover where in the video does he say that?

[@jrgaskin01]

we need more sacrifices to keep the sun happy.

[@Book-bz8ns]

Just finished my new flint knife

[@peterwillner5536]

Lol😅😅😅😅

[@jeffb6153]

I suggest.....Celebrities!!!! I have a few in mind. :P

[@peterwillner5536]

@@jeffb6153 with sautéed politician's

[@DavidTa2]

​@@jeffb6153celebrities? Can we start with "neighbors" lol. Jkjk. My neighbors are all pretty cool, but I know a lot of people would rather see a neighbor sacrifice than a celebrity sacrifice.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

If only we had older records like this . we truly have such small samples sizes of confidence to work with.

[@user-xz5qi7wq1u]

Yea, I think our scientific records only go back to 1776 or so.😮

[@sparkyfromel]

Ice cores , tree rings and various lake deposits or cave stalagmites provide some pretty good records

[@robertmusil1107]

I don't think it would help a lot because these systems are so complex. It's highly unlikely you can predict the future activity of a star based on past performance.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@@robertmusil1107 oh yeah its very well refined almanac have had excellent performance based results for centuries .21 yr solar cycle, every other one is solar minimum that laid the foundation and has been constantly useful in it.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

We've directly gained a great deal of predictable power thats being used by everyone from NOAA the oceanic & atmospheric association to Nasa and agriculture and meteorology uses it. Many industries like mining and countless others make use of this record

[@rimurutempest2130]

We need to remember that Cassini was also influenced by Siamese Texts from India It had lot of practical formulas to calculate Sun and Moon's Apsidial period and length of mean lunar month . Also this text which Cassini read was not even a full fledged Siddhanta(More like applied Math) . There were others which he had not read . But it helped Cassini to calculate accurately .

[@andycordy5190]

I would certainly not question recent findings about cyclic solar activity and I love the idea of the records kept by Royal Astronomers in Korea but the Sun is 4 billion years old and probably has a pattern of fluctuations far more complex than human records of a thousand years can demonstrate.

[@oberonpanopticon]

I wonder if this had something to do with the sun’s movement through the galaxy. Major changes only happen every few tens of millions of years when the sun passes through the galactic arms and/or disc, but perhaps the subtle changes on smaller timescales as it passes through various bubbles and clouds could have somehow affected it?

[@seanhewitt603]

Dark matter clouds.

[@snowmiaow]

Clever idea

[@oberonpanopticon]

@@seanhewitt603 isn’t dark matter pretty evenly distributed / correlated to the visible structure of the galaxy? And isn’t it super tenuous even compared to visible matter?

[@oberonpanopticon]

@@snowmiaow eh I’m just spitballing and don’t know a ton about the subject, but a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@SolaceEasy]

With such a huge contrast in particle density between the galactic medium and the Sun I don't think that could be a factor. However galactic magnetic fields would have more of an influence on the Sun, I believe. Another influence could be variations in density of Dark Matter the solar system travels through.

[@tatersquad2000]

Anton getting those context warnings like a champ. Keep it going my man 💪

[@justingreen8572]

To bad it’s a lie.

[@WSmith_1984]

He keeps getting them but continues to spout mainstream nonsense in support of anthropological cl1mate change 🤷‍♂️🤦

[@AKSTEVE1111]

I thought I was the only one that was within my right mind😊

[@gravitonthongs1363]

@@WSmith_19844:11

[@jonharrison3114]

@@WSmith_1984what

[@phishENchimps]

It has already been known that solar activity effects wind in the upper atmosphere. hopefully they don't forget it.

[@edimbukvarevic90]

Solar cycle length varies considerably (~9-13 years) all the time, only the average for the sunspot number record (since ~1750, cycles 1-24) is ~11 years. Also, there is a correlation between solar cycle length and its strength - long cycles tend to be weaker and vice versa. IMO, the main cause of the solar variability are the orbital influences of the planets. It's not a random coincidence that Jupiter has an orbital revolution period of 11.8 years. and it's likely (IMO) that the average solar cycle is closer to 11.8 years averaged over longer periods.

[@popcopone5172]

i m so happy we ve come to this point with civilisation that allowed me to see this man, anton petrov (which btw i find as the realest mdfk out there), daily, with the best updates on scinece from all the fields, not just space. bro anton petrov just the best in what he does. so informative, chill and entertaining.

[@natashasmyk8778]

Since the solar activity is so variable, why not imagine that the heating effect of the solar radiance is also variable and sometimes more than expected, even though the radiance is assumed to be boringly constant in character.

[@Kayenne54]

Thank you so much for your videos, information, research and hard work.

[@thomasgilbreath1250]

It is cycles within cycles. Mayan calendar. It has to do with wave interactions. Two big waves make a bigger wave. Two small troughs make a bigger trough.

[@recursr1892]

Anton, would be great if you could deepen the topic of earthquakes/solar activity. Ben Davidson see‘s a correlation, but hus data goes only back a 50years or so. I found other studies, with similar time range, but outcomes aren‘t clear. The corean aurora data would help greatly to find longterm correlations.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

Earthquakes occur daily on earth, so pseudoscience proponents like Ben can easily correlate them with sunspots, despite no causation. The sun has an eleven year cycle, earthquakes don’t.

[@CapitalTeeth]

The more you watch Anton, the more you realize that we really don't know that much about this orb we inhabit. More specifically, what makes it truly tick.

[@Ana_crusis]

The Earth is ticking?!

[@CapitalTeeth]

​@@Ana_crusis You're on the spectrum, aren't you?

[@erinmac4750]

Truth. The more we learn, the more we discover we do not know.

[@Ana_crusis]

​@@CapitalTeeth you haven't got a sense of humour, have you? It's ok lots of people with low IQs lack a sense of humour.

[@ThePowerLover]

Because we don't actually know, like, nothing.

[@pierluigidipietro8097]

Various studies are investigating the effect of solar activity on Earth crust and core. Large scale Earthquakes seem to be connected to solar storms. Earth magnectic field is surely connected to solar magnetic field, but we still don't know many effects that could be triggered

[@katm9877]

A thousand years of daily (or near-daily) observations? Mind=blown!

[@mrglasecki]

Like an electric induction range Earth is the second hand winding of a step down transformer when the sun is active volcanic activity is increased

[@erinmac4750]

That's an interesting analogy. I'm not entirely up on the physics I learned too long ago, but my brother works in the industry, so I'm sure he'll have something to say about it. ✌️😎🌎🌋

[@MrLenwalker]

Actually there are lots of peer-reviewed papers out there showing that the sun does control our weather, you just have to look for them. Oh, and volcanoes too!

[@ThePowerLover]

He's so behind the curve.

[@NotALoonOhio]

Is there a correlation between solar activity and earthquakes?

[@Timbo6669]

I was looking at a space weather app I have that has 3 satellites data and the size of the sun spot that will face us in the next couple of weeks is scary big. I’ve been getting a lot of alerts of solar activity this week. I wonder…….

[@PatMcCarthy420]

If you want to look at a scary-big sunspot, look up the October 28th and October 29th 2003 X17 and X10 solar flares and the enormous sunspot that caused them. 🤯

[@Timbo6669]

@@PatMcCarthy420 the one that is there now is bigger! It can fit about 5 earths in it.

[@antonyjh1234]

SWPC at NOAA and the new updated predictions for stronger and sooner, Jan 24 to Oct, the peak, your alerts are going to continue

[@Jesst7721]

Smart, be on the good side of history, please do talk about the sun. Our Sol is both in an active phase while the earth is undergoing a weakening magnetic field. This year alone has had more Aurora Anomalies moving far to the southern state latitudes than any in a very long time.

[@deetybaby]

So low sunspot activity = cooling but increased sun spot activity = not heating?

[@erinmac4750]

Lower sunspot activity = higher cosmic rays which affect certain types of magma, which leads to uptick in volcanic activity. Increased solar activity correlates to other things, including possibly influencing ENSO. I read the paper fairly recently, but now I can't remember if it increased El Niño or La Niña. 🤦

[@emack76]

I can’t upvote this comment enough

[@emack76]

Up is down Down is up When the sun comes out in the morning it gets not warmer, right?

[@marknovak6498]

I could see that the sun could easily bounce from one cycle to another for no more reason than the underlying chaos had changed.

[@carolgebert7833]

Local maxima and minima in a chaotic landscape

[@phishENchimps]

4:23 Temp on one Vertical, Solar Irradiance on the other Vertical... hmm... Which way should I stretch and label the measures so as to benefit my view point?

[@erinmac4750]

That's the data. It's not cooked. It shows us going from a mini ice age, Maunder Minimum, to current times. Also, geologically and astronomically, 2000 years isn't that long of a period.

[@theevermind]

Changing solar cycle time is odd since a recent report claimed to link it to the orbit of Jupiter.

[@lar6263]

Perfect as always Anton😊, American Universities,as well as high schools,would benefit from the style in which u explain 👍👍👍👍💓

[@genericfemale7606]

Solar minimum causes increased cosmic ray levels. Cosmic rays agitate the activity in volcanoes and leads to increased eruptions, leading to cooling. Cosmic rays also contribute to cloud nucleation which blocks out the sun and also leads to cooling.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

Korean king: Hmm, so apparently today the sun had a few big spots, Jupiter is in occultation, and Venus is in the third constellation of the north. That means tomorrow I'll have to visit grandma.

[@ronb7481]

In one breath you say that there is so much we don't yet understand about the sun, and in the next rule out any relationship between the sun and global climate as if everything is in fact known. This is so typical of climate alarmists, firmly entrenched in the CO2 theory.

[@WildAlchemicalSpirit]

Ever notice how CO2 alarmists never bring up how water vapor is the Earth's primary greenhouse gas and we're putting more water vapor in the atmosphere than ever via contrails? In fact, water vapor causes a higher percentage of warming than CO2 does, but this detail is almost consistently left out.

[@freeforester1717]

Correlation between periods of solar inactivity and volcanic and tectonic activity on Earth.

[@eXWoLL]

Coincidentally with this video, I saw an article about the current cycle reaching its peak a year early from what was expected. Are we heading into a new shortening of cycles?

[@michaeloreilly657]

It's not possible to know the peak until you're past it.

[@markusgorelli5278]

@@michaeloreilly657 Sabine Hossenfelder did a video on this. By monitoring when and where the sunspots are forming you can project when it is approaching maximum and the poles are going to flip.

[@amenoum7623]

Interestingly, the Maunder minimum coincides with the birth of I. Newton and is equal in length to his lifespan (1643 - 1727). Coincidence? I don't think so.

[@kellydalstok8900]

Newton would have believed it, because he was into fake science as well as real science.

[@hl8333]

Hi Anton, have you , in the past, ever thought about adding your bloopers ad the end of your videos?

[@zeak166]

This was a grand solar minimum. We appear to be heading into another one.

[@WildAlchemicalSpirit]

The modern warming phase once did correlate with the solar activity until the way the sunspot counting was changed and the Wolf sunspot counts were smoothed. Now it appears they're unrelated, however, I am not entirely confident with the changes that were made in how the counts are done. I am particularly suspicious of the changes that were made in the 90s.

[@ThePowerLover]

Not to mention the use of "solar irradiance" as a "proxy" for supposed "solar activity"...

[@AK-vx4dy]

This study about activity and warming is only about radiated energy from the Sun, more active Sun can have indirect effects by bomarding more our atmosphere with energetic particles wich can have effect on cloud seeding for example.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

4:12 wow that cooked temperature data really stands out. Oh excuse me "corrected" data.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

It’s a pretty obvious trend. No data can be cooked that much.

[@mrMagpied]

Hello Anton, and thanks for the work you do. I realise you may never read this comment. Still, the topic of stellar ignition, that is capturing the moment a protostar evolves, is fascinating to me, and I would love to hear your thoughts on the subject. Please upvote if you agree.

[@shadowfox8748]

Holy hell! Are you allowed to talk about sun cycles? Probably the single most important thing in our times that every scientist and media outlet ignores and downplays while we have millennia of patterns

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 😊🙏

[@barnowl6807]

What I find interesting is the lack of information on the effect the radiation hitting our planet does to the overall power input. The aurora may just look like a pretty light display but that is nothing more than plasma caused by electrical discharge. In other words, current flow through the rarified atmosphere. Just like in a florescent light. As we all know that light requires power to work. Any current flow through a conductor (The plasma) will produce a magnetic field. Probably a very fast shifting and fluctuating field. How will that interact with the earth magnetic core. After all, this is mostly iron surrounded by a coil made up of plasma. Do we live on an induction cooker? Is this recent uptick on earthquake and volcanic activity related to the sunspot activity and causing the earth core to heat up and expand? Wild thoughts or a graduate dissertation?

[@theduppykillah]

“Slight” cooling? It was cold. The Fur Trade was at its peak at this time because of the demand for beaver skin hats

[@Capricopia]

The sun is not just TSI as shown on the graph. What are the impacts of cosmic rays or EUV? Reducing the sun's influence on our climate to the impacts equivalent to a 1.5W bar heater does not make sense. What about the thermal inertia of heat in the oceans. What caused the atmosphere to inflate and now decrease, what caused the earth's rotation to start speeding up the 70s after slowing from the 1930's? What impact does the changing rotation have on tectonics?

[@erinmac4750]

You have a whole bunch of questions there, some related, some not. If you have time, I'd suggest reviewing Anton's playlists, as I believe he addressed some of these. Otherwise, Google is your friend, unless you're lucky enough to have access to a college/university library to get behind pay walls. If so, let the fun begin.✌️😎

[@efdangotu]

Keep going down this path!

[@mickgibson370]

BUT you said that the output of the Sun did not afflict the temp of the Earth! Right!

[@szebike]

As a kid it was one very bright spot you were not supposed to look into. Then later you find out all life depends on one gigantic atomic explosion like ball holding itself together from its sheer gravity.

[@jakobfromthefence]

We have the weirdest sun in the galaxy. It’s super special. I love our sun. ❤

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

Where did you get the idea from that our sun is "special" and the "weirdest in the galaxy"?!?

[@jakobfromthefence]

@@bjornfeuerbacher5514 because we are here. Not special enough? 😉

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

@@jakobfromthefence So every sun around which a planet orbits on which there is intelligent life is "special", or what did you want to say? And you didn't answer the second part. Where did you get the idea from that our sun is the "weirdest in the galaxy"?!?

[@jakobfromthefence]

@@bjornfeuerbacher5514 why don’t you tell me what you would like me to feel like? Or maybe just, you know, give me some evidence that there’s a weirder star system out there. Galaxy or universe wide. I’d love to know.

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

@@jakobfromthefence :D :D :D You made a nonsensical claim with no basis in reality, no arguments and no evidence. And now you are whining that _I_ should provide evidence? Are you pulling my leg, or are you really that dumb?

[@antonyjh1234]

Could we have a new one about the solar maximum and how SWPC has updated this in the last few days, the coming one to be in January 24, to be harder hitting and sooner than 2025 prediction?

[@AdamosDad]

The current Solar activity is very good for Ham Radio.

[@damianousley8833]

The sun does have some aspects of being a variable star. Though a reasonably well behaved variable star.

[@iWerli]

Anton: "Strange solar activity 400 years ago" KZbin: "REMEMBER CLIMATE CHANGE THOUGH ITS NOT CAUSED BY THE SUN"

[@robertmusil1107]

Basement scientists always try to make causal links without any evidence. Just because it sounds "reasonable".

[@jonharrison3114]

Yes the sun impacts our temperature but the amount of Co2 in our atmosphere I believe affects us even more

[@toughenupfluffy7294]

I wonder if the magnetic lines become stabilized during the minimums, keeping magnetic highs and sunspots from occurring?

[@billheineman472]

Satisfy your "wonder" with research ... the MATH regarding the Sun's frequncy cycles has been very well defined.

[@ThePowerLover]

@@billheineman472 So much that the current next solar maximum is arriving earlier than expected 😒

[@jim.franklin]

I get frustrated when there are comments like "volcanoes caused the little ice age" when the geological record does not support this assertion. Between 1765 and 1820 there were three VEI6 or larger eruptions, with Tambora in 1815 causing the famous 'year without a summer', yet whilst this and two others had global reach, their climate impact was transitory, lasting around 27 months. The calculated change in solar irradiance during the Maunder minimum is 0.38% - 0.62% , not much you may think, but a 1% drop in solar irradiance would drop average global temperatures by around 2C, thus, the implication that the change in magnetic reconnection that resulted in reduced sunspot activity, likely reducing flaring activity and reducing the temperature of the solar corona is likely a major factor in the cooling of this period. We know the northern hemisphere was impacted more by this cooling, modelling has shown this was made worse by a combination of the Earth's orbital phase and some localised volcanic activity in Iceland, where prevailing wind patterns carry volcanic products across Europe and cause short term, localised cooling. Where events like this coincide the combined effect can be dramatic on a regional scale.

[@mathewmunro3770]

It's like it's suject to both random forces and harmonic forces. The changing alignment of the planets pulling it in different directions would surely have an effect.

[@runnyhunny786]

Long life and non perishable giant food vaults should be established in various parts of the world as a safety net for any unexpected weather phenomena - or other possible catastrophes that could suddenly diminish our food supplies. Including non perishable stocks for some animals and pets.

[@Michael_K_Woods]

Anton is misrepresenting the solar radiation hypothesis. The hypothesis is that during the modern maximum that the solar energy was absorbed by the deep ocean and that it takes time (many, many decades) for the ocean to release that heat into the atmosphere.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

I researched “solar radiation hypothesis” but was unable to locate anything supporting your claims.

[@mrmick4757]

What about the Magnetic field of the Earth during these times which you havnt mentioned ironically!

[@erinmac4750]

He has done fairly recent videos on the magnetic field. Check his playlist. ✌️😎

[@nuggetwagon]

I’m in love! With this channel.

[@daveknight8410]

🤗 i can remember Anton saying a while back that Jupiter earth &venus were responsible for sunspots as the planets do influence the surface of the sun ,i hope more research was done🤔

[@user-im6yx2lz3t]

I love this guy, but how can the sun being hotter not have anything to do with earth being hotter?

[@gravitonthongs1363]

4:11

[@BlueWaterSTAX]

Well done Sir✌️

[@osmosisjones4912]

Why need to coat all satilites with gold and print paper copies of documents

[@danielreade5978]

love this tube...

[@geraldfrost4710]

Jupiter and Saturn align every 20 years. 21 years fo two solar cycles? Pretty coincidental! Maybe the son, for its size, wants s slightly different period for reversing its polarity. When the two big planets align, the gravity (and the barricenter) means the sun is more oval. This will disturb the heat flow from the core if the sun. Thank you. Please send me my No Bell prize.

[@chadriffs]

Jupiter's revolutions around the sun and its distance to it and the suns max/min coincide every 11 years or so now...it may be from the magnetic/plasma fields drawing and pushing which cause the solar cycles. Our sun may also have a binary that could be influencing it.

[@patmcbride9853]

If your source of heat puts out less heat, you get colder.

[@WhiskerBiscuit1]

Actually, this solar cycle is WEAKER than several previous ones. It is not more active this time around.

[@bomen330]

Yeah definitely, but solar cycle 25 is looking slightly stronger than solar cycle 24.

[@erinmac4750]

The news is that this solar cycle maximum is going to be stronger and longer than they predicted, not that it was significantly stronger than previous ones.

[@axle.australian.patriot]

I am a little skeptical about the idea of the disconnect between solar activity and earth weather and climate. Maybe the extremes of a mini ice age may not be a direct effect but everything else is correlated. > P.S. You scored another YT climate change fact check badge :)

[@jarrettesselman8144]

The earths climate is controlled by solar forcing. What else would it be, magic?

[@axle.australian.patriot]

@@jarrettesselman8144 Anton asserted the disconnect between the mini ice age and the long solar minimum, of which I stated that I am skeptical. So I don't quite get the context of your comment.

[@jarrettesselman8144]

@@axle.australian.patriot yeah, while reasserting the narrative that the current warming is us. Got it.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@jarrettesselman8144the current warming doesn’t correlate with solar activity so yeah, pretty obvious that it is not just the sun that controls our climate. The OP’s scepticism is scientific, yours is ideological and emotional.

[@jarrettesselman8144]

@@gravitonthongs1363 yea it does. You get your Scientism from the state.

[@AnAntidisestablishmentarianist]

Claims the sun output and global temperature are reverse coupled while showing a chart where they are highly coupled until around 1980. What happened in 1980 to decouple them? By what mechanism would they be reverse coupled now? Did global warming just start happening in 1980?

[@gravitonthongs1363]

He claimed recent reverse correlation. Temperature rise due to the change in atmospheric composition became apparent in 1980.

[@jarrettesselman8144]

@@gravitonthongs1363you should do this more. More shilling please.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

@@jarrettesselman8144 why do you troll?

[@carolgebert7833]

Btw - Anton - You really should not use Michael Mann’s hockey stick graph. It was shown to be fraudulent by Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

You could call for further refinement to the chart, but suggesting it should be cast aside is only because you don’t like to admit the obvious rise in temp. Ignorance is not science

[@carolgebert7833]

@@gravitonthongs1363 Try reading the paper by McIntyre and McKitrik. They show the graph is fraudulent.

[@nononono3421]

Wouldn’t no sun spots result in an overall brighter sun over that period? Do we know if ice receded during that period, which might actually explain the cooling?

[@jamesvincett1917]

Could someone please explain or point me in the direction towards information that explains how astronomers in the 1600s could count sunspots? Being what it is, I’ve always just assumed solar observations were incredibly limited until maybe 100 years ago.

[@kkandola9072]

Just telescopes. Galileo invented the telescope in the early 1600’s.

[@kkandola9072]

Closer solar observation is very recent . We only discovered galaxies exist in 1924, so it’ll be 100 years in 2024. But looking for sun spots is much more crude than distinguishing a galaxy.

[@jackburton7062]

Yes, they have been lying to you... about everything.

[@jamesvincett1917]

Oh I know this yeh, he named Jupiter’s moons right? I was just wondering if the telescopes were equipped with a filter or something to both protect the eyes from damage and making it easier to distinguish sunspots from the ‘standard’ parts of the Sun? Maybe there was an ingenious way to look at the Sun indirectly?

[@kkandola9072]

@@jamesvincett1917 ohh yes I understand . They did not look directly through the telescope with their eyes when looking at the sun. The image from the telescope was projected onto a surface and that was observed. So instead of putting your eye onto the telescope and blinding yourself, they’d put a piece of paper that would reflect the image and could be observed.

[@cmotherofpirl]

Excellent as always

[@matthewmckever2312]

Mate I watch all your posts, fantastic work but also your funny. Dont know if your aware of that. Keep it up.😂

[@davebrown6552]

I have to ask what is the basis of the claims for global warming? The planet is 1 degree cooler than the Holocene average and 2 degrees below the Holocene Optimum. The planet is no warmer this century than it was at the beginning of last century, I did a rough analysis of Arizona (somewhere where global warming should show up) average annual temperature comparing the last 25 year with 25 years at the beginning of last century (1910 to 1935) 1910 and 1935, all years above 74F, 24 above 75, 18 above 76, 10 above 77, 5 above 78 and 2 above 79. vs the last 25 years all years above 73F, 24 above 74, 22 above 75, 17 above 76, 9 above 77, 4 above 78 and 1 above 79. NO WARMING *(Source NOAA raw temperature records extracted from 828000 daily maximum and minimum records from multiple weather stations across Arizona. No adjustment has been made for any heat island effect from building work between 1935 and 1998.) Or look at the data collected by the Cape Otman lighthouse which has been collecting daily max min temperatures since 1864 although close to Victoria in Australia it is far enough away to avoid any heat island effect and it shows a cooling trend Can you actually give any level of CO2 that has actually caused warming? or stopped the planet from cooling? over the last 50 million years with CO2 levels up to 2000ppm the planet has cooled not warmed.

[@briancooper562]

If you take a radio active substance over time it looses energy as charged electrons and the remainder reconfigures as a differing material. A material or phase change. The sun is a very large radioactive body so something similar may be happening where there is an exchange of materials at differing temperature and pressure within. This may be controlled by half-life decay, material density, material mass or internal thermal or magnetic convection. One or a combination may be the timer for the solar events?

[@charlescurran1289]

I’m going to start putting tape over the YT blue banner.

[@erinmac4750]

I don't even notice it anymore. Though it would be nice if they had one for other sorts of lies.

[@MrSCOTTtheSCOT]

So does the Sun have a La nina / El Nino type of fluctuation maybe due to deep multidecadal flow of heavier elements forming deep in the sun , maybe where there are boundaries, of where the hydrogen fusion occurs.

[@Ludak021]

I don't know how can you take data from 15th century this serious. There could have been a million Sun spots and one guy with a wooden lens looking at the Sun seeing F.All and recording data. I am not saying they recorded something untruthful, I am saying that they probably failed to see and record more data due to the technological limitations.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

They recorded many sunspots before and after the minimum

[@Jokers_Yugioh666]

Cool video anton!!

[@johnfitzgerald8879]

it's a boiling ball of fusing hydrogen plasma. Perhaps it is just random.

[@therealzilch]

Thanks again for another wonderful video, Anton. Lunch offer remains open. cheers from cloudy Vienna, Scott

[@RoseNZieg]

I want to applaud the oldies who looked into the sun and sacrificed their eyesight for science.

[@zinamac8611]

Keep up the good work

[@EinarBordewich]

I love your videos, but I want to provide a video editing tip. You have done a great job with the green screen but your face come out kind of grey. Apply a color correction and chroma key correction to bring the true color of your face back again! 🙂

[@avlisk]

Anton and Ben Davidson are my "go-to" guys for what's happening.

[@gravitonthongs1363]

Anton for science, Ben for fantasy

[@Julia-uh4li]

​@@gravitonthongs1363Exactly.

[@gregsonwoods]

@@gravitonthongs1363 Anton must look at some of the comments here and despair.

[@i_dont_live_here]

Hello wonderful Anton.

[@ZotZotZot]

Антон , мое вам уважение.

[@aaronmicalowe]

The sun's activities are like the ringing of a bell. Different frequencies, rise, fall and transform into each other as the energy in it dissipates.

[@garylawson5381]

Thank you Anton Petrov!