Unit tier list | Allies doctrine

[@HistoryBuff2022]

The way he says artillery is absolutely hilarious to me lol

[@MarkPhonia]

You were one of my reasons and inspiration to play call of war, years ago. thank you so much

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@MarkPhonia Waaw thanks 🙏 and you're welcome 🤗

[@FunnyAardvark-wy1hm]

Best Call of War youtuber fr. Thank you man, god bless you.

[@andriusandrius1013]

Man, every video you post, it just drags me to play CoW again and again

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@andriusandrius1013 thanks for the compliment 😍

[@charlygames1193]

In my opinion, a tierlist of allied units should be about which are the best units for that doctrine, not comparing them with the rest. Besides, I would consider raising the armored cars to a tier S or at least to an A, since without them you are lost. They are the main unit for any doctrine despite the disadvantages that the doctrines offer. I would also raise the commandos to tier S and the railway guns to a tier B, since despite being slow, they are your main weapon to destroy large groups of units, and more so if the enemy has railway guns. As you said, they are not part of the main strategy, but of plan B.

[@BMfoxgaming]

You need to make your tier list relative to the other doctrines. You cannot give an allies Armoured Car an S if it doesn't even get doctrine bonuses. If the Allies Armoured Car is S then how would you rate a Pan Asian Armoured Car? PA AC get an additional 20% damage vs unarmoured units and they are 25% faster then the Allies AC. You have no choice but to rate these units relative to other doctrines.

[@berandomisme]

My thoughts: Commandos are S tier, day 4 means only interceptors for SOME doctrines can find them. Making you a ghost. Rocket Fighter is B tier because it has a very small range and you probably have many interceptors as Allies already. Atomic Rockets are C tier because games never last that long and you need over a week of research time to get them. SP anti air is A tier because of it's speed, something the Allies doctrine lacks. Tank Destroyers are S tier because of their minimal stealth. Also, it's the only tank unit (besides ac) that you NEED to make. Anti air should be B tier because of how important it is. Necessary evil and all that. Interceptors are A tier because of the Allies doctrine reliance on a large air force. Cruisers should be in C or B, they're a naval mix of anti air and armored cars. P.S. On mountains, you can use rockets against typically slow and low level units.

[@BMfoxgaming]

Scouts can reveal commandos which are armoured cars, motorized infantry and armoured cars. Players that know the game will have scouts in their stacks and level 4 for scout units is way sooner available than for commandos. Axis Rocket fighter level 1 (day 6) deals 28,6 damage where as a level 3 interceptor only deals 11.5. Axis Rocket fighter level 2 (day 14) that is 46.8. A level 5 interceptor only deals 19.6. A maxed out level 7 interceptor (day 20) deals 32.2 damage. Obviously interceptors are no match for rocket fighters, so luckily RF have a small range because they are overpowered as it is. SP AA isn't A tier simply because it's faster? It has the same speed as a SP Artillery or medium tanks. SPRA, LT, AC, mot inf, mech inf are still slown down by SPAA. You can't honestly give them an A tier rating especially as allies SPAA doesn't get a single doctrine bonus. TD as an A tier is correct, due to their limited stealth players can still see them and they won't run into them. If MT run away from TD, you cannot run after them to chase them down as TD are slower then MT. To merit an S rating they should be faster. Just because AA is a necessary evil doesn't merit a B rating. They are slow AF so they are a C rating: "can be a solid choice but do have downsides;" Allies interceptors don't merit an A rating because Pan Asian and Axis interceptors are much better. Just because cruisers are naval AA doesn't make them a B or C for allies. Allies cruisers are the slowest in the game and they don't get any doctrine bonus. Rockets only have a 5 radius splash damage. By the time your rocket impacts those units will be out of the splash radius unless they are extremely slow units. Rockets are to be used for static targets, notably buildings.

[@idkjustforfacebook]

Great vid

[@titus498]

allies td s tier

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@titus498 they aren't that overpowered though?

[@patricksmit8887]

@@BMfoxgaming I think having them in a "meat shield"deters any tank stack to attack, I like and fear the comintern one, as well as the allies one

[@scottymacdewder5229]

TD and Tac bombers are S teir

[@EddyDaPlayer]

I thank you soooo much please may you do one for each doctrine this information was extremely valuable I appreciate the help

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@EddyDaPlayer the others are already online for members.

[@geeks430]

Med/Heavy tanks are 100% D or F tier they are way too slow and completely unusable against my competent opponent. Tact bomber and Strat bomber are arguable S tiers I would say because they are almost the entire meta of Allies doctrine. Strat bombers max level can view over an entire continent and is great for taking out ground units without AA, even considerably large stacks. Tact bombers are the best early game unit on allies and since almost nobody builds AA early game tacts rule the entire map. Commando seems reasonable but I don't see it in meta a lot so I'm not sure why.

[@BMfoxgaming]

The MT/HT isn't trash enough to rate it as an F in my opinion. The strategical bomber isn't worth a S. The difference with an Axis strategic bomber is negligible and you'd probably wouldn't rate an axis strat S.

[@imaadhussain8082]

Great video

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@imaadhussain8082 thx

[@ethanhamer320]

Please make a video about the new update that removes goods and rare materials.

[@Adeon55]

I'm really curious what they mean in the update by the "two different setups for urban production. A 2-2-2 layout with 1 resource higher than the others vs 4-1-1 where all resources are equally available". It seems to be contradictory, but more importantly I don't even know what those numbers are referring to. Will we start with 6 core cities instead of 5 (in a standard balanced game)?

[@alfford6438]

The allied doctrine is overwhelmingly my favorite, but clearly, my play style is very unusual because I find paratroopers indispensable. They're just so fast. I use them with air units or cruisers to take cities, then build air factories to take more cities. At my best I can take 10 cities a day. This strategy is especially effective against island nations. It's nice not to have to go through all that water. I also use them to take large provinces so my other troops can get through them faster. Anything to overcome allied slowness. I build continent-wide paratrooper supply chains and use them so much that I don't use strategic bombers. Why bomb a province to dust if I can just take it? All that said, I will try it your way with rocket artillery, strategic bombers, and commandos.

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@alfford6438 indeed, so they have some niche uses which is D rating. Also don't waste time on island hopping, staying on the mainland is much faster.

[@xxwolfvrxx1598]

I think artillery should be placed higher if you’re in a speed game because when you take out a country and they quit, you can use artillery to take out their leftover leftover units so your troops take less damage

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@xxwolfvrxx1598 so you say that they are useful in certain situations like in a speed game where people are inactive so that would be a D rating

[@xxwolfvrxx1598]

@@BMfoxgaming yes

[@xxwolfvrxx1598]

@@BMfoxgaming and good for forcing people to pick between attacking your troops or backing off

[@GainBrains]

Axis: S tier: Rocketfighters, mot. Inf., attack fighters, U-boats and medium tanks.

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@GainBrains Not exactly but close enough, you'll see soon.

[@GainBrains]

@@BMfoxgaming I just put everything I like the most about Axis in S tier. If I Would do it seriously like you I World put U-boats, MT and attack fighters in A tier but Kinder also want to leave it in S tier. Bc they are so insanly good. (Mostly bc of the speed boost it gets)

[@govenormayor87]

@@BMfoxgamingmy guess is that you don’t agree with mot infantry being s tier

[@sewur5034]

They have fun matchups with other doctrines. They dominate sky against Comintern but lose hard against their artillery. They hard counter Axis MT, Mot. Infantry and subs but also get hard countered by their Rocket Fighters and RRGs. They lose very early against Panasians but will win after a couple of days when new research comes in. Mech. infantry straight up stat checks light tanks lol

[@calaz4054]

Wdym by last one

[@sewur5034]

@@calaz4054 That Allied Mech. infantry is more cost efficient than Panasian core unit: light tank. Other than that Allies will almost always have level advantage

[@calaz4054]

@@sewur5034 so it’d beat it.. or? Sorry

[@Tohma_Ed]

Great video!! I am new to the game and i was wondering is attack bomber useful? If not so should i stick to tactical bomber. Also Rocket artillery is that like the regular artillery but better?

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@Tohma_Ed tactical is good for allies, attack bombers are good for axis, rocket artillery is a secret branch unit that counters unarmoured units.

[@Tohma_Ed]

Thank you I’ll keep that in mind when I play

[@thantthit4797]

Allies tactical bombers are OP 🔥

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@thantthit4797 Yes indeed!

[@govenormayor87]

Aaaaaand this tier list is obsolete a couple hours later 😂😂

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@govenormayor87 incredible right.

[@OskarFredriksson-fd1kb]

Can you show allies build order

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@OskarFredriksson-fd1kb so far it is only available for channel members. You'll have to be patient until it becomes public.

[@Alicapcut]

They are removing rare material and goods your thoughts about it?

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@Alicapcut another stupid change that's pushing me closer to the edge.

[@Alicapcut]

Yeah now it will be hard

[@calaz4054]

Use gold and warbonds and rush a stack of tactical bombers by day 2 or 3 and youll have the early to medium game in the bag

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@calaz4054 and then someone uses his war bonds and produces interceptors. Don't push a player in early agression with warbonds because he'll do the same and spam the right counters. Use your warbonds to heal your units, to spawn an airbase at the front. Keep the rest for a rainy day.

[@calaz4054]

@ 10 tactical bombers and one or two strategic bombers is op early game, mixed with early on fast capturing units You’ll be able to decimate any nearby player

[@YourFriendlyOfficeAssistant]

Watching Dad's Army makes me think Allied militia is the worst in the game. Slow already without the allied speed nerf, usually redundant, and now not very stealthy. I'd put it in D tier myself. Allied infantry deserves the B though. Especially in the first week or so with the allied upgrade bonuses and supported by TDs. Just like Allied fighters, not absolutely outstanding, but a dependable and useful unit to build in decent quantities.

[@gabrielveleanu3771]

I saw an older video where you rated the sp artillery of the allies as one of their best. What changed?

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@gabrielveleanu3771 there's been a lot of unit rebalancing. Both MT, TD, HT got buffed and RRG has two levels. However, artillery units got nerfed. I used to think that SPA was good thanks to the doctrine unit bonus. However if you analyse in detail you realise that they aren't that useful and that TD is way more efficient to counter heavy armoured units. The only advantage of SPA is that you can attack a player who's not willing to engage with your TD.

[@vladimir-uz3dq]

Bruh did you just use the Axis unit sprite images to describe an Allies doctrine video 😂😂

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@vladimir-uz3dq too much work to change everything. I've used the generic version.

[@Cornwaffles]

Is this tier list affected by the new economy much?

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@Cornwaffles doctrine bonuses, units bonus, HP, damage output and speed haven't changed. I didn't take unit cost in account when I made the tier list.

[@Alex-up6eu]

Why nuclear rockets in S tier. It feels like you just wanted to give an S tier to allies because they dont have anything else thats S tier. Nuclear Rockets are strong but S tier?

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@Alex-up6eu Allies doctrine unlocks them 2 days earlier than any other doctrine. That means allies players can ass whoop their enemies for 48 hours with nuclear rockets and their enemies can't do anything about it. You cannot shoot down nuclear rockets. Having such a great advantage is a game changer!

[@Alex-up6eu]

What would you say is a good way to use nukes? Its best for building right?

[@BMfoxgaming]

@Alex-up6eu the best way to use nukes is to take out big stacks. You often have those players who have stacks of 30, 40, 50 units or more. Those are prime targets for nukes. In the late game you won't be able to get in range of their core provinces because they've expanded a lot. Taking out production or economy will have little effect. The player in question can just upgrade his already large army instead. If you use ranged or air units they enemy will just heal with war bonds. You nuke the big stacks and they'll lose half their army or more. By the time the other doctrines can produce nukes they won't have any land units left to defend their territory.

[@MarcusCloutter]

I love how you have 7k subs but you still read every comment

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@MarcusCloutter I try but it is time intensive.

[@kings-sv4iv]

You meant axis

[@gulam.mfarid7154]

Nah, there is no logic in sp artillery being that low, it should be in a or atleast a tierx , by the logic that game only have 4 heavy units make no sense bcz tank destroyer also only counter heavy Armor and you put them in a tier

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@gulam.mfarid7154 1. SPA are the slowest of all doctrines. 2. TD are way more efficient to counter heavy armoured and get more interesting bonuses. 3. SPRA is both faster and deals more damage to most units. Conclusion: SPA for allies isn't that interesting. Pan Asian and Axis could get away with it but they aren't a good choice for allies.

[@charlesloweedit]

Tier lists are total crap and a waste of time. It depends on the situation etc. sometimes it is good sometimes not.

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@charlesloweedit Which is why the tier list is doctrine based and not situation based. It's up to the player to adapt to the conditions of the map.

[@charlesloweedit]

@@BMfoxgaming But as far as quality goes, yours is the best I've seen from my perspective.I don't like the ally doctrine much overall l, I don't always know what to play at the beginning and I find them pretty weak.

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@charlesloweedit Yeah they need some time to get into the game 🎮

[@BMfoxgaming]

@@JPM-q5s LOL 😂 amen to that!