Unitarian Dr. Tuggy vs. Trinitarian Dr. Brown. WLC sides fully with Dr. Tuggy

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[@henriklarsson5221]

I became a christian after 35 years as a atheist and not even touching the bible. The first thing i saw when i read the bible was that thee is two distinct characters, father and son and the creator pneuma(spirit, breath) which gives everything life. No contradiction or confusion. All i know is that Jesus the son is gonna judge us all, and his father God has given him all power to do so. I will do as Jesus said and continue to pray to the father directly, and claim Jesus as my king and Saviour, because he´s the gate to the father... only his blood can cover my sins. peace

[@ericjeronimo7108]

I was into spiritsm for 27years and I basically discovered the same as you but also recognize the Holy Spirit as another Function/Characteristic of The Father. It Teaches, Guides & Dwells within the Temple that you provide. These manifestations are necessary in order for the Father to be Physically/Spiritually with us without Destroying us with his Holyness.

[@henriklarsson5221]

@@ericjeronimo7108 Agreed. And i do believe that Jesus is eternal, as the word, trough whom everything was created. I can´t get anything else out from reading John. The word was in the beginning and the word became flesh. So the word became the son. Still it´s two characters that are one in everything they do and say, a perfect reflection of his father. well that´s my taughts anyways. peace

[@BeyethereforePerfect777]

“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.” ‭‭John‬ ‭20:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” ‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ End of debate JESUS Christ is God the SON! “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@fredwlcteam4264]

Alexander kindly see - www.worldslastchance.com/topical-biblical-studies/anti-trinitarian-studies/50 63 John 20:28 (My Lord and My God) 60 John 1:1 (In the beginning was the word) www.worldslastchance.com/directory#The-Trinity-(doctrinal-error)

[@jamesvan2201]

It's really crazy. I was just literally looking into this! I've had issue with this dilemma for some time now but tonight especially i was watching some KZbin videos and googling about this and I was about to shut my phone off for the night and this came to my notifications.

[@Stevebassdjmusicchannel]

THE ASSYRIAN ANTICHRIST kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2OZdmuKqNyod8U

[@raulabundis5001]

Hope y’all had a joyous new moon celebration!! Happy first day!!

[@colprincess8579]

Christ is Yahweh!

[@fredwlcteam4264]

Centurion of Truth kindly see www.worldslastchance.com/topical-biblical-studies/anti-trinitarian-studies/50 www.worldslastchance.com/directory#The-Trinity-(doctrinal-error)

[@LovedandSavedbyYah]

Dr Brown is correct.

[@trueblue4u952]

WELL ,WE ARE STILL ARGUING ABOUT WHO GOD IS & WHO'S GOD IS WHO'S WE REALLY NEED 2 GET OVER THIS & WORK ON LOVE ,INCLUDING SOMEONES OPINION .

[@rolandgerard6064]

What’s your point exactly?

[@ericjeronimo7108]

I recognize the Holy Spirit as another Function/Characteristic of The Father. It Teaches, Guides & Dwells within the Temple that you provide. These manifestations are necessary in order for the Father to be Physically/Spiritually with us without Destroying us with his Holyness.

[@homegrownpatriot1310]

As of 15 minutes in Dr. Tuggy sounds arrogant and completely wrong saying Jesus is not God! How in the world can you side with this dude?! Im not Trinitarian, but Jesus is absolutely God!

[@fredwlcteam4264]

Homegrown Patriot kindly see www.worldslastchance.com/topical-biblical-studies/anti-trinitarian-studies/50 www.worldslastchance.com/directory#The-Trinity-(doctrinal-error)

[@rickyzoe1]

Something to ponder; If God the Father is A Spirit like the scriptures say. If God is Holy like the scriptures say. If God the Father is Omnipotent and Omnipresent ( knows all things and is everywhere at once) like the scriptures say then what purpose would there be for a third person of the God head called the Holy Spirit? Divine in nature distinct in person. Why couldn't God the Father who is Spirit who is Holy who is Omnipotent and Omnipresent be the only Spirit in the Godhead? Why does He need a third person? Doesn't it make better sense that God the Father himself gives of His own Spirit to those who are in Christ? Why a third person of God if he is everywhere?

[@unlikelyprophet3260]

God was in garden walking, sin entered world God went outside time into eternal made people for himself created holiness entered into time in body followed all laws paid sin went back outside time with his body will return in body to judge

[@homegrownpatriot1310]

Tuggy just rubs me the wrong way.....Pharisee like

[@unlikelyprophet3260]

The father is outside of time over all time ,Yeshua was in time, speaking to all of time ahead and behind moses and Elijah seemed to know him so did abraham

[@victoryinthebloodofthelamb]

I believe Dr. Brown at 37:00 is sincere in describing the Father and the Son when he says they are one and the same and that he would give his blood for this God. Since the Father is two-part (Spirit and His Word is Truth) there is no need to create separate beings/persons of the godhead and call them god the son and god the spirit as the trinity doctrine does. The Father IS Spirit and Truth/Word. He used the DNA of a female to manifest in the flesh and blood as His own Son. His Word/Truth became flesh. His eternal life (Holy Spirit) runs in the blood - literally. This is evidenced in the structure of His blood - discovered by Ron Wyatt and tested in an Israeli lab. His blood never dies like human blood. I John 5. John 10 30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” Unitarianism denies the divinity of the Son saying His life began on earth. This is simply a snarl of the serpent as he denies the first coming of Christ. I John 4:2-3 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh (from heaven to earth) is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. Unitarians await a return (earth and back to earth - denying the first coming). True followers acknowledge the 1st coming (from Heaven to earth/in the flesh) and await a 2nd coming (from Heaven to earth/in the flesh). The flesh and blood of the Son did not pre-exist but His Word and Spirit certainly did. The Father and the Son truly are ONE. The Son is a divine, flesh and blood manifestation of the Father. He willingly chose to come to earth to suffer and die in order to pay the price for our sin. Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled (disarmed) principalities and powers (death and hell), he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. The Son came to make a way and show us the way to The Father in Heaven. John 14:6 King James Version (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. There is no greater love than this. His forgiveness and eternal life are free gifts for each of us. He will never force His will. He calls. He speaks. Can you hear Him? Deuteronomy 30:19 -........I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

[@unlikelyprophet3260]

You split them up you get dual covenants his commandments are for all

[@unlikelyprophet3260]

YHWH each of these paleo hebrew characters have meanings from right to left they mean BEHOLD,THE HAND,BEHOLD,THE NAIL. How will we know you

[@unlikelyprophet3260]

GOD IS ETERNAL OUTSIDE OF TIME he entered time into a body prepared then took body out of time God is one, trinity is a temporal understanding of this