Unity CEO Fired | Prime Reacts

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8 ай бұрын

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@devvorb1571
@devvorb1571 8 ай бұрын
Now the senior Dev explains financial stuff to me - nicely done!
@Kane0123
@Kane0123 8 ай бұрын
The Oracle of Montana
@spicynoodle7419
@spicynoodle7419 8 ай бұрын
Señor Developer
@Flameandfireclan
@Flameandfireclan 8 ай бұрын
@@spicynoodle7419Mr Developer. Is that what we are gonna call Primeagen
@crankytec
@crankytec 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, about that, I have this bridge to sell you...
@mvargasmoran
@mvargasmoran 8 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised he resigned, I was expecting for him to get a raise and fat bonus, while the company bleeds.
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 8 ай бұрын
Don't CEO's like these get golden parachutes (or w/e they're called) when they leave? Or is that not done anymore
@mvargasmoran
@mvargasmoran 8 ай бұрын
I guess he was offered a fat amount of shares or something like that, he did perform his job being the evil CEO @@Reydriel
@heavymetalmixer91
@heavymetalmixer91 8 ай бұрын
The investors were losing money, and he was the public face of the company, so it was his head the one to roll so to gain back a little bit of "credibility for the company".
@mvargasmoran
@mvargasmoran 8 ай бұрын
you sure he wasn't a planned sacrifice? "guys let's test the water, if it goes really bad, just pay me and I GTFO"@@heavymetalmixer91
@THEROOT1111
@THEROOT1111 8 ай бұрын
That's not a bank, therefore no bailout with taxpayers money so... yeah, it's a structural issue you could say.
@akshay-kumar-007
@akshay-kumar-007 8 ай бұрын
Ironically, India's 2nd largest stock broker (1st till yesterday) Zerodha, is a privately held company. They do exactly what Primeagen told. They give stock options to employees and do buy backs and dividend payouts regularly. And they have literally 32 people in their tech team Imagine being one of the largest stock broker in world, with a tech team of 32.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
well, companies like this don't need to develop a lot of software they need a few which need to be really good but these types of software can't really be developed by a lot of people
@ark_knight
@ark_knight 8 ай бұрын
@@kuhluhOG Makes sense since the logic of stock market doesnt change. Just the regular security fixes.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
@@ark_knight well, they do a LOT of optimizing it's just that they don't need many many feature, but these need to be very good and fast and that's not really something a lot of people can work on in parallel
8 ай бұрын
Almost the same with Valve. Could be very interesting to see their capitalisation if they go public.
@shrin210
@shrin210 8 ай бұрын
Conclusion: Going public, destroys the company But as a public should we invest in those company? My answer: We shouldn't and just invest in yourself but if we can't believe in ourselves invest on us, then we can invest on whole stock market like index fund just to retain value but it won't have much return like making millionaire or retire at age 50 money.
@leastmachine8693
@leastmachine8693 8 ай бұрын
Maybe they should fire the consulting firm that gave them the idea in the first place 🤔
@ollydix
@ollydix 8 ай бұрын
Consulting firm owned by the CEO (common practice)
@jarretthorton7439
@jarretthorton7439 8 ай бұрын
It’s because they didn’t hire Tom the genius
@ThePrimeTimeagen
@ThePrimeTimeagen 8 ай бұрын
tom would of JDSL'd their process so good
@SirZokxyron
@SirZokxyron 8 ай бұрын
Tom's a fkin genius
@mrniceknight
@mrniceknight 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePrimeTimeagen please make tom canon in @ThePrimeTimeagen verse
@ea_naseer
@ea_naseer 8 ай бұрын
​@@mrniceknighthe's canon
@pietraderdetective8953
@pietraderdetective8953 8 ай бұрын
I actually checked Unity's corporate action...so Unity did a convertible notes on Nov'21 in order to fund their purchase of IronSource (stock-based deal) and Weta (combo of stock and cash deal). The thing is, the CN has no floor price..so the notes holders can convert higher number of shares when the share price is going down...and the share price has been doing exactly that since end of 2021 till today. This is known as convertible notes / bonds death spiral because with no floor price the share price will keep on plummeting..added to the fact the financials are still in the red (negative).
@philsburydoboy
@philsburydoboy 8 ай бұрын
One of the reasons these companies go public is because founders want to retire. If you've been CEO of a company for a decade, you'll probably get tired of not knowing your family and not having any hobbies anymore. Oftentimes they sell their stake to private equity, which restructures the company to be sustainable without the founders so that their investment retains its value. Usually that restructure is aimed at either (A) becoming a public company, or (B) selling to a public company. I wouldn't be shocked if the unity founders sold most of their stake for a huge pile of cash from VC/PE 3-4 years before going public.
@classic7033
@classic7033 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video. Getting a finance and a philosophical perspective from a tech channel was unexpected but very much welcome
@pldcanfly
@pldcanfly 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I am suprised he stepped down. Usually in the gaming industry a ceo can do what ever the frick he wants and still collect them bonuses. Just look at Bobby Kotick.
@symix.
@symix. 8 ай бұрын
What? Bobby Kotick didnt do anything that dangered the company. How does this have anything to do with bobby, pretty sure bobby has made very good decisions for the business and knows how to exploit gamers. (But not too much, so they keep bringing money in)
@binary_gaming113
@binary_gaming113 8 ай бұрын
​@@symix.Sounds like you missed the whole blizzard drama / shitshow a while ago.😅 That man (and other people in the company) did some seriously messed up things, not necessarily financial.
@symix.
@symix. 8 ай бұрын
@@binary_gaming113 no, i didnt? Thats exactly what I dont understand, how is this relatable? Unity CEO didnt do anything "disgusting", he made bad business decision that threatened the company. What bobby did, did NOT threat the company. He also saved the company. (Invested when it was going bankrupt) and then succeeded. Again, I dont understand how that is comparable to this? Like who the fuck is surprised theese days that companies dont care about morals, and care about bottom line? And I am not defending what bobby did, but saying that makes no sense, for that to be some reason for being surprised CEO being resigned for threatening the companys profits. If unity's CEO was in similar scandal as bobby, and resignation followed, then being surprised would be understandable.
@Tobsson
@Tobsson 8 ай бұрын
I thought of Bobby half way through your comment 😂 a true money, money CEO.
@MisheelTubshinbaatar
@MisheelTubshinbaatar 8 ай бұрын
@@symix. Bobby's penny crunching action for sake of higher revenue all for sake of share holder ended up costing it's game IP massively.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
About the whole "stock"/IPO thing: I have to this days not seen or heard of one company where the constant demand of growth by their shareholders didn't long term destroy the company.
@tripnils7535
@tripnils7535 8 ай бұрын
Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon all do pretty well.
@macchiato_1881
@macchiato_1881 8 ай бұрын
Most tech shareholders are fucking clueless wrinkled baby boomers who dont understand the first thing about turning on a pc.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
@@tripnils7535 I said long term, these companies are comparatively pretty young
@ApiolJoe
@ApiolJoe 8 ай бұрын
Must be deaf then. Most well-known companies are doing at least decently (at least certainly not on the verge of destruction).
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
@@ApiolJoe and all these companies are either still in their expansion phase or pretty young
@mohamaddelkhah
@mohamaddelkhah 8 ай бұрын
Personally I have no problem with them trying to get more money, and I don't have any problem with monetizing their product from us game developers either. I'd be content if they understand that pouring gasoline on everything than throwing in a lit match isn't the way to do it, as that prick of a CEO obviously didn't.
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
15:30 I once worked at a private company which gave their employees a cut of the profits which also means that the employees notice when the company is doing well and when it isn't.
@baguettedad
@baguettedad 8 ай бұрын
TheEconomicagen
@abujessica
@abujessica 8 ай бұрын
Never been interested in economics this much, I love how primeagen is able to make anything he speaks about interesting man you're gifted anybody knows how to learn more about this subject? (the stock market, dividends and tactics used by companies and such)
@willi1978
@willi1978 8 ай бұрын
i'd start with what kind of products exist on the stock market (shares, options, index funds). after that you can decide where to go deeper depending how much time you want to spend a week doing research. if you buy shares, you should check on them regularly to see how they are doing, options and funds you don't have to track that regularly. options have a fixed percentage return on the investment and funds can be linked to an index or are managed by the bank.
@abujessica
@abujessica 8 ай бұрын
Thank you a ton for your time Willi, any tips on where to start learning and practicing (virtually)?@@willi1978
@moonasha
@moonasha 8 ай бұрын
as a user of Unity, I am perfectly happy with a revenue share system. It's just the way it was implemented was entirely absurd and unrealistic and scared a lot of users. Whoever made that decision should be fired. I have a feeling it wasn't John's decision though.
@Sam-vf5uc
@Sam-vf5uc 8 ай бұрын
A note on the stock buyback part--it isn't really about scarcity per se, its more about owning a bigger fraction of the company. If you have 100 equal shares, and 80 shareholders buy 20 of those shares back, they each now have 1/80th of a company instead of 1/100th. That's the primary reason for doing buybacks, less so a scarcity effect.
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
@rumplstiltztinkerstein 8 ай бұрын
Stock market obsession with maximizing profits is the source for so many of our problems today. Pollution, corruption, the centralization of so many companies, wars, planned obsolescence in all kinds of products like phones. There is so much stuff. What else am I missing?
@x--.
@x--. 8 ай бұрын
Enron to Bear Sterns. Stock markets where reality doesn't matter, just perception and there is no real punishment for lying leads us right here.
@BufordTJustice42069
@BufordTJustice42069 8 ай бұрын
Its a magic show. Riccitello is being flayed publicly but what's going on behind the curtain? Pay attention to the ironSource crew and how they are benefitting.
@heavymetalmixer91
@heavymetalmixer91 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the company is a mess as a whole, not just John.
@blipojones2114
@blipojones2114 8 ай бұрын
Maybe they should literally flay him and the investors.
@enitalp
@enitalp 8 ай бұрын
I have been in multiple public game companies, and the stock exchange was the biggest problem.
@Ampullae
@Ampullae 8 ай бұрын
I looooove your attitude lol. absolutely hilarious and on point
@NMiller_
@NMiller_ 8 ай бұрын
Publicly traded companies are always looking to satisfy shareholders quarterly, or maybe yearly. Empires are built on long term strategies. Taking it on the chin for a few cycles so you can transition or overcome isn't rewarded as strong leadership. For some groups this might work. But, I think more companies should stay private and focus on long term success, instead of short term gains.
@ThePrimeTimeagen
@ThePrimeTimeagen 8 ай бұрын
THIS!!! and also, you don't always need to keep making money, but staying relevant (even if you make more or less money, but remain in business longer) like i really don't see the point of unity going public, it doesn't offer anything to the end user, the customer
@NMiller_
@NMiller_ 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if the customer dictated all the stories for your sprints. That's what quarterly earnings calls are (IMO).
@tubeincompetence
@tubeincompetence 8 ай бұрын
I just feel the problem was HOW they went about their changes. Not that they wanted more money.
@Algorythm44
@Algorythm44 8 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter who gets fired, they showed they were willing to immediately jump into horrible ideas, I've already started porting to godot and never looking back, they can't be trusted
@dixztube
@dixztube 8 ай бұрын
If only folks treated our politicians this way haha
@Fiercesoulking
@Fiercesoulking 8 ай бұрын
@@dixztube If we talk in the west in general from the voter perspective they start to do. Sudden changes aren't a good thing but a must thing which need to be happen. This is what democracy makes a better system.
@prestigemultimediagroup6436
@prestigemultimediagroup6436 8 ай бұрын
Plus the ceo doesn't make policy he executes it like the us president... The board of directors make the decisions he merely executes their plan... And so everyone knows he didnt come up with the idea the former ceo and founder of ironsource and the two members he has on the board made this deciaion... But yep all of you keep being as dumb as to think anytjing at all will change with unity News flash . He's the publicly facing figurehead and fall guy nothing more
@NihongoWakannai
@NihongoWakannai 7 ай бұрын
​@@dixztube if only politics wasn't a rigged game where every option is corrupt
@dixztube
@dixztube 7 ай бұрын
@@NihongoWakannai really starting to feel that way and not just feel - but show. But that seems nationally, locally there are some of the best and worst ironically
@MarceloNogueiraGoogle
@MarceloNogueiraGoogle 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant!! A business Master Class!
@x--.
@x--. 8 ай бұрын
"I love the stock market" and "Most companies shouldn't go public" seem opposed but it actually just makes me wonder: Are there any stock markets that focus more long-term? One of the big flaws of the current exchanges is they seem to be optimizing for the richest, highest-frequency traders to extract wealth from the "mom and pop" and institutional investors by just being fast behavioral prediction engines. But if an exchange existed that was optimizing for what Prime says here: building value over the long-term, I'd find that really appealing.
@ApiolJoe
@ApiolJoe 8 ай бұрын
The exchanges don't optimize anything. It's the HFT and the traders who are trying to optimize the way people interact with the markets to extract wealth. It seems you're a bit unsure about which functions the exchanges fulfill in the economy. We would be much less technology advanced if no company ever went public. Whether it's for the better or for the worse, I'm not debating that, it's a whole other topic.
@x--.
@x--. 8 ай бұрын
@@ApiolJoe I'm totally out of my depth but I'm not arguing against optimizing the raising of capital for businesses using a stock market. I'm saying that it appears the stock market has now been optimized to make rich people richer by using techniques that extract value from other participants (HFT) while adding instability and other harmful incentives. Put another way, if you aren't making money off a company increasing its value then it seems to me, correct me if I'm wrong, you're making money by gaming the system and there are negative externalities in that.
@szilagyimiklos4757
@szilagyimiklos4757 8 ай бұрын
Kinda surprised he knows all this
@PiratePawsLive
@PiratePawsLive 8 ай бұрын
Noice another video by the Stalkergen :D
@EmettSpeer
@EmettSpeer 8 ай бұрын
This is the single best take on the Unity take I have seen so far
@madarauchiha2584
@madarauchiha2584 8 ай бұрын
This was really a good finance lesson😊
@dan_rad
@dan_rad 8 ай бұрын
I'm a tech recruiter and have been working on a large Unity project recently. As some insight they charge millions for just a handful of resources from their consulting divison - I don't know what percentage of their revenue is made up from consulting fees but its another variable to throw in. They also pay very well. Not sure how much comp is in the form of stock though.
@dave24-73
@dave24-73 8 ай бұрын
One reason people list a company is so they can use it as an exit strategy as the price initially skyrockets. During this process they will often retain a small percentage of equity in case the company continues to do well.
@RiftTraveller
@RiftTraveller 8 ай бұрын
Great take, all around.
@Beuzer0
@Beuzer0 8 ай бұрын
I heard that a common practice with companies is to build it up enough, then make it public, before selling all your stocks at the highest and run away before it dies.
@majorhumbert676
@majorhumbert676 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. You wouldn't sell stocks unless you thought the stocks were worth less than the money they were being sold for.
@maxnibler6090
@maxnibler6090 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear this. I see this as bare minimum to even consider using Unity again
@ahettinger525
@ahettinger525 8 ай бұрын
Buybacks also help if you're paying dividends on another front. You don't have to pay the dividends on the stock you've bought back. So the price of the stock goes up, and you pay less (in aggregate) for dividends, while not _lowering_ the dividend.
@mage3690
@mage3690 8 ай бұрын
Man, I wish there was a better system than the stock market, but for all my wishing I sure as hell can't think of a better one. I just wish it didn't kill so many of my favorite companies by legally forcing them to be greedy. Imagine how different the world would be if Dodge vs Ford went the other way (I still think it should've gone the other way).
@x--.
@x--. 8 ай бұрын
Stock market as an idea still seems sound. Stock market as a gambling paradise for the super-wealthy, high-frequency traders, and quarterly-earnings bonuses for executives seems to suck. In other words, it seems like the modern stock market is designed to extract value from the those less savvy or well-connected. Maybe it was always that way, though...
@NihongoWakannai
@NihongoWakannai 7 ай бұрын
The problem isn't the stock market. The problem is that the company is mismanaged and instead of fixing their management structure they tried to fix the problem by acquiring a bunch of money from going public.
@mage3690
@mage3690 7 ай бұрын
@@NihongoWakannai you know what, good point. I always forget that culture doesn't change overnight, despite all appearances.
@0oShwavyo0
@0oShwavyo0 7 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that creating liquidity for investors is a MAJOR reason to become a public company. At least if you take VC money then they are going to push you to go public or merge with a larger company so that they can turn their shares into cash and make money on their investment.
@jonathancrowder3424
@jonathancrowder3424 8 ай бұрын
Stocks seem like a bad idea that your friend would come up with and end with "idk tho"
@jamesbrooks9321
@jamesbrooks9321 7 ай бұрын
i loved unity before they went public, saw this sort of scenario coming back in 2020 they were doing great things and could still be a powerhouse and beloved tool without having to go into empire mode
@sweep-
@sweep- 8 ай бұрын
For some strange reason, companies don’t understand that there is only so much of your product than you can possibly sell. Infinite growth isn’t real…
@nb5549
@nb5549 8 ай бұрын
It is all about greed.
@crankytec
@crankytec 8 ай бұрын
Stock buybacks were illegal in the US until 1980's for a reason. It means, that instead of investing your profits into better products, employee trainings, technology and all that good stuff, you dump it all into stocks in the dumbest way possible, when their value is high. So, as a CEO you have to do almost nothing, shareholders will be please and you will eventually walk away with a huge bonus. Why would you walk away? Because eventually it all crashes down, like it did for Boeing, which lost a massive market share when the literally killed hundreds of people because of buyback BS.
@AlecMaly
@AlecMaly 8 ай бұрын
Off to his next exec level position.
@k98killer
@k98killer 8 ай бұрын
Fwiw, Berkshire Hathaway's investments have underperformed the markets for at least a decade. Some say it is an effect of large position size making them less nimble than a smaller investor; some say the Oracle of Omaha is losing his touch. He would have been better off investing in a low-fee total return ETF. Imo if your idea of "good" is selling carbonated sugar water to diabetics, you might want to reevaluate your value hierarchy.
@ThePrimeTimeagen
@ThePrimeTimeagen 8 ай бұрын
i do agree that cocacola is not a great company. i would have to evaluate buffets position to understand if it has "underperformed" the market
@k98killer
@k98killer 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePrimeTimeagen just crunched the numbers again. Berkshire Hathaway made a surprising recovery post-2020 money printing (kind of like how many of his positions would have collapsed in 2008 had it not been for the massive bail outs), and it has held up better over the past few months, but it still has not quite caught up to the broader market. Total return (including reinvested dividends), past 10 years: BRK-A: +202% (source: Yahoo finance; no dividends, so it is just price performance) SPX: +275% (source: Slickcharts; total return compounded annually)
@jaimesoad
@jaimesoad 8 ай бұрын
15:40 to the person who asked if a public company can go private. Yes, it is possible. Best example is Twitter
@andso7068
@andso7068 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, even the vast majority of employees felt that going public was a mistake. Either way, I'm putting in an application at Unity sooner than later, because at this point, all they can do is go up or offer a nice severance package when they inevitably belly up.
@SomeKiwi
@SomeKiwi 6 ай бұрын
I think the problem isn't the stock market, as private equity firms also drive companies into anti-consumer practices in the pursuit of the almighty dollar, the problem is greed. It feels like we've gone from a "more for more" mentality of making better shit to get more money into a "more for less" mentality where those with money are trying to extract as much money for as little effort by any means
@MonkeyKong21
@MonkeyKong21 8 ай бұрын
people in general need an education on the stock market and prime is giving correct information here i'd just add that trading stocks around quickly, more or less, is the zero-sum aspect, and is used by sophisticated investors to take money from less sophisticated investors -> it's a system of gambling with the stocks, which is not their intended purpose but, investing (i.e. holding onto stocks, i.e. allocating your capital to good companies for a duration they can build themselves up with it) is productive economic activity and on average is positive-sum -> it benefits you and the companies and society altogether because wealth is generated rather than merely changing hands
@MrSquishles
@MrSquishles 8 ай бұрын
Think if they just flat kept same model and raised the price they'd have gotten some grump, but adults in the room would have more or less pointed out what primagen said, they're a company they can't be making negative money.
@truthseeker8139
@truthseeker8139 8 ай бұрын
As an aspiring game developer I was excited for the new pricing model. It was going to take the top tier developers seriously. Now I am discouraged and feel like I need to write my own game engine now.
@ckronenwetter
@ckronenwetter 8 ай бұрын
Good take
@NMiller_
@NMiller_ 8 ай бұрын
Dude... The SubPrimeageon
@lonelyteapot
@lonelyteapot 8 ай бұрын
We need a financial course on Frontend Masters. Now.
@jeremykothe2847
@jeremykothe2847 8 ай бұрын
Lovin the t
@Edwin-nl3qu
@Edwin-nl3qu 8 ай бұрын
Its a really tricky situation. Usually in the VC model you either become a whale or get bought by one. In the case of Unity, they are far from a whale but still big enough to only have like 3 potential acquirers and Lina Khan has all of them on a leash.
@petomni
@petomni 8 ай бұрын
It's definitely not entirely bogus to say you're IPO'ing for employees, think of all your Netflix stock grants that would be otherwise worthless until a liquidity event, depending on the place and your pay grade those are 25-50% of total compensation or more. If the stock has been doing well the promise of more growth and thus more income if you stay at the company helps retention and hiring. There's also the finance flexibility of buying, selling, or issuing more stock--that's a bit out of my area of expertise but you know they wouldn't all be doing it if it wasn't making them more money. Finally, it's a way to cash in on the hype-cycle if you're hot in the moment you might get more money thrown at you than any of the VCs/PEs would be willing to pay (Tesla and Snowflake come to mind with valuations that priced in the next 10 years of growth).
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 8 ай бұрын
I wish you used some more volume in your videos. I use to have instrumental music on in the background while working, but with your videos I have to lower the music to 1%, and yours to 100% and cant hardly hear what you are saying :) Its the same with most twitch streamers for some reason, maybe twitch lowers the audio volume.. cause in the ads on twitch, its like a boombox in your ears and that back to whispering in the video :)
@AnnCatsanndra
@AnnCatsanndra 8 ай бұрын
As a Twitch Affiliate I can say it's hard to add any more gain to the recordings without clipping the audio capture. Maybe there a way to do it gracefully, but this is a constant frustration for me because as a viewer I usually don't want to hear the speaking person's background music over my own side audio. On Twitch, FrankerFaces includes an audio compression option that can help when viewing, but that doesn't help with the KZbin situation.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 8 ай бұрын
@@AnnCatsanndra ah I understand. thanks for the information.
@JustBCWi
@JustBCWi 8 ай бұрын
It's "fewer seats" not "less seats." The job of a CEO at times like this is to be fired. They probably planned his exit package before they announced the controversial license scheme. 13:10 you are agreeing with DHH here. ;)
@cyberneticbutterfly8506
@cyberneticbutterfly8506 8 ай бұрын
"Why aren't we growing as much as we thought we would?" "Pressure the managers!" "Make new revenue streams!". These ideas wouldn't happen if the company had accurate perception of its place. Its actual market size. Companies are all essentially staying afloat by only hiring managers who accurately see the real market their product can go for.
@brod515
@brod515 8 ай бұрын
what is this title. I think you should rename it to something like unity ceo steps down or something.
@ThePrimeTimeagen
@ThePrimeTimeagen 8 ай бұрын
yeah,... oops
@brod515
@brod515 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePrimeTimeagen yeah it’s just i really use titles to determine whether i’ll watch something
@complexity5545
@complexity5545 8 ай бұрын
CEO was fired; they want you to believe he stepped down or even got fired...LOL Its a scapegoat hope routine. They're still going to middle finger unity devs.
@colemichae
@colemichae 8 ай бұрын
They need to increase revenue, and quickly because the new guy will be expected to make a return on the shares.
@PhilfreezeCH
@PhilfreezeCH 8 ай бұрын
14:30 There is no way to make 30% year-over-year consistently, in fact on aggregate there cannot be a way to beat the market consistently. If there were, it would get priced in and you would no longer be beating the market consistently. Of course single actors can do it over a limited time period but that is neither something a lot of people can do, nor can it be consistent across an indefinite time period. Otherwise the whole price structure of the stock market would rather quickly detach from its own pricing mechanisms (not reality, it does that one anyway) and the market would collapse. The average return is 10% (7% if you price-in inflation), this is the figure you are looking for, everything else in either direction is just randomness you can‘t really account for. P.S: I would like to add one caveat, there is a way to consistently beat the market. It is called insider trading. If you have more information that the majority of investors (meaning mostly institutional investors), then you can of course outperform them.
@MaxHaydenChiz
@MaxHaydenChiz 8 ай бұрын
There's a 3rd reason companies go public: If there are more than 500 share holders, they must be publicly listed. So if you have stock options for your employees, and you are big enough, you will end up being forced to go public sooner or later.
@krooqs
@krooqs 8 ай бұрын
Unity has some offerings that have great potential. They are trying to be the AWS of the game industry, which has amazing potential to make money. The problem is that they are insisting on tying their cloud services to their engine and that thing, does not make money. It's OK in practice, the moat is goat, but if you want to do it that way, your offering needs to be the best.
@PaulZyCZ
@PaulZyCZ 8 ай бұрын
On the bright side (of the life): Jim is great CEO and he's been dealing with IBM.
@jouniosmala9921
@jouniosmala9921 8 ай бұрын
What they actually needed was a small royalty from successful developers instead of install fee. The total gaming market is 400B$, if they could claim 2% of a 10% of it that would be 800M$.
@DannyMcPfister
@DannyMcPfister 8 ай бұрын
Warren Buffering 😂
@StuartLoria
@StuartLoria 8 ай бұрын
how do you get into the stock market from Europe?
@LeeKao
@LeeKao 8 ай бұрын
It's the VCs that are constantly pushing for an IPO, that's how they make their profit. the VC's make you promise them an IPO within several years when you raise your round B or C
@nevokrien95
@nevokrien95 8 ай бұрын
The Stock market is a good way for people who have money to have more money. That makes alot of sociological issues. Including some really creative tax evation
@firesoul453
@firesoul453 8 ай бұрын
Great nuanced take. A lot of people ignore the reality and just celebrate his demise.
@vluis217
@vluis217 8 ай бұрын
"Companies shouldn't make more than $100 million" And you are the Based-agen.
@alexdefoc6919
@alexdefoc6919 8 ай бұрын
At least he sold some stock
@SpazeUnofficials
@SpazeUnofficials 7 ай бұрын
the what -agen" ...?
@caspera3193
@caspera3193 8 ай бұрын
Godot ftw
@danieldelriodevora9373
@danieldelriodevora9373 8 ай бұрын
NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISOR
@brod515
@brod515 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand anything about stocks. but when I hear stuff like this.. I always wonder how most of these antics are moral. when you said a company can buy back it's own stock for it to introduce scarsity and increase the value of the stocks.
@pieflies
@pieflies 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately morals have no place in finance and big business. It’s just a bunch of people trying to get more for themselves.
@complexity5545
@complexity5545 8 ай бұрын
Then you start questioning economics as a whole; is money moral.
@tripnils7535
@tripnils7535 8 ай бұрын
Everyone who owns stock in that company earns with share buybacks, even Joe Average holding 10 shares. Noting immoral about it, kinda the opposite.
@AnnCatsanndra
@AnnCatsanndra 8 ай бұрын
​@@complexity5545Money as a utility to facilitate generic exchange is useful, but the concepts of infinite profit, infinite desire, and the idea that money value itself is equal to use value is all flawed. And that is where a lot of the systematic self-destruction comes in. If you make a perfect watch and sell one or two to everyone on the planet, there is no more profit to be made and the use value has peaked. But the US stock market would legally require said perfect watches to find a way to get more money from people who no longer have a reason to pay more. And thus, Enshitification happens. There are many ways money is used to fabricate hierarchy, but that is a reflection of the people using it, not the tool itself.
@JonathanTheZombie
@JonathanTheZombie 8 ай бұрын
Charging by install is like charging rent by every time you open an exterior door. It makes zero sense.
@GrantGryczan
@GrantGryczan 8 ай бұрын
More like every time you invite a guest into your house
@some1and297
@some1and297 8 ай бұрын
this is not financial advice...agen
@bb-wb8sb
@bb-wb8sb 8 ай бұрын
The average person is not invested in the stock market. Wishing for the stock market to only be populated by companies that wish to monopolize is myopic.
@resxool8837
@resxool8837 8 ай бұрын
sponsored by Unity? Go get thet 150M!!!
@emiliancioca
@emiliancioca 8 ай бұрын
Great insight into the unity situation. Could not disagree more about the outlook towards stocks in general :P BUT I really appreciate that your ideas are always thought out and consistent. Either way you slice it, it's easy to learn something from your videos :)
@oystercatcher695
@oystercatcher695 8 ай бұрын
you mean: fewer seats means less money
@toxic_icecream
@toxic_icecream 8 ай бұрын
If they choose to drop the self reporting system they will need to have a better proposal than "we will decide how much you pay us, trust me bro"
@nad9969
@nad9969 8 ай бұрын
Maybe unity should go to a subscription model?
@njnjhjh8918
@njnjhjh8918 8 ай бұрын
If they have 7700 employees this should be the best engine in the entire world, hell they could have two different best engines in the world
@diegofloor
@diegofloor 8 ай бұрын
They didn't understand their product. I don't think a game engine company can grow what they expect to grow, unless they branch out to tangential products like games, game platforms, whatever. Going public with the intention of growing to an absurd size with just an engine was stupid.
@MichaelZimmermann
@MichaelZimmermann 8 ай бұрын
The title says fired and the thumbnail says retired, now I HAVE to watch the video 😁
@blackbird8192
@blackbird8192 7 ай бұрын
why TF do they have 7k+ employees?? you don't need that many to make a good engine, what the heck are they all doing? Wouldn't surprise me to find out they only had like ~1k devs, mabe less. If it's anything like other companies i've worked for, then it's probably mostly sales, HR, managers, execs, blah blah, then they wonder "wHy aReN't wE pRofiTaBle?!?" Ya well, too many people talking about the work that needs done, not enough people to actually DO the work.
@DC-yw5yg
@DC-yw5yg 8 ай бұрын
Excellent news
@AdamLeis
@AdamLeis 8 ай бұрын
Can… can we hang out some time? I get the sense your range and depth of knowledge would lead to fascinating conversations. Your comment on us being hylomorphs in a previous video caught my attention (I'm also code-theology-etc in studies). Good stuff, Prime. I appreciate your guidance and content.
@goesbypluto
@goesbypluto 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, Unity should use a different business model. Charging per install is bs. Maybe increase the hike of getting a percent of pay from the income of the dev/company?
@isodoubIet
@isodoubIet 8 ай бұрын
The stock market is totally inaccessible to the "average" person.
@albyx
@albyx 8 ай бұрын
I CALLED it weeks ago! Riccitiello was the 'sacrificial lamb' so that the company could save face, "hey, we're not the bad guys, he is! we're still charging more money though"
@ApiolJoe
@ApiolJoe 8 ай бұрын
Well, they kind of need to charge more money though, otherwise they'll just disappear.
@JiggyJones0
@JiggyJones0 8 ай бұрын
You didn't call anything. People were already viewing him as a villain because he sold Unity Stock right before the announcement.
@VudrokWolf
@VudrokWolf 8 ай бұрын
By the way buybacks should be taxed this is increasing the cost of the product for the consumer which never goes back down.
@ThePrimeTimeagen
@ThePrimeTimeagen 8 ай бұрын
what? buybacks should never be taxed. that makes no sense in any world. its great for shareholders and its good for the company. they can use the buy back as a method of paying the employees
@VudrokWolf
@VudrokWolf 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePrimeTimeagenThanks for the reply. I highly value your content. However, please think more clearly and look at the equilibrium of the system. These kinds of practices provoke imbalances which most non-billionaires will be affected by. The system is steadily heading in the wrong direction. I believe you're smart enough to figure it out.
@TheSkepticSkwerl
@TheSkepticSkwerl 8 ай бұрын
Ones goal shouldn't be to be mega rich. Ones goal should be a system where everyone eats and sleeps comfortably.
@spicywe1ner
@spicywe1ner 8 ай бұрын
700 million in cost for a game engine sounds insane to me. I guess I don’t understand what engines take to develop.
@dustsucker4704
@dustsucker4704 8 ай бұрын
One Problem of the Stock Market: you dont got money you dont make money. That's the problem i have with it.
@CT2507
@CT2507 4 ай бұрын
He is just going to move on to another major company and become CEO there. Remember he came from EA before he was in Unity! These billion dollars companies are one big cesspool. Just like when a major CEO of a bank fucks up and commits fraudulent activates, he just moves to another country and becomes a CEO of another big bank.
@MrNH718
@MrNH718 8 ай бұрын
Nah man, he didn't get fired. He just wanted to spend more time with his family that's all. 😂
@truedatrue2744
@truedatrue2744 8 ай бұрын
12:30 That's one of the worst issues on capitalism. All companies want unlimited money, unlimited growth. But unlimited anything is totally unsustainable. Not mentioning that limit profits to thin margins only, and expanding the salaries should be a standard worldwide.
@JiggyJones0
@JiggyJones0 8 ай бұрын
Capitalism is not the cause of greed. Greed is a human emotion and it doesn't take an economic system like capitalism to cause people to feel it.
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