Europa Clipper in Danger // NASA Cancels VIPER // Dune Style Space Suit

[@czerskip]

When Scott Manley says it's dumb, it settles the matter. Poor VIPER 😵

[@chiphappened]

Exactly!!!!!

[@dx-ek4vr]

To be fair, I'm pretty sure just about anybody with half a functioning brain would be able to see that cancelling VIPER was a dumb move

[@richardbloemenkamp8532]

I commented on his video in a way that I could understand the cancelation of Viper. Then he basically replied that my comment was dumb (in more gentle terms as he always does). That indeed settled it. Haha, Scott is the greatest!

[@Leafbinder]

Well at this time Stupidity IS running Rapient lately.

[@music100vid]

@@Leafbinder It seems our pollical "leaders" in congress are mostly focusing on extending and consolidating their power than in passing fiscally responsible legislation that would preserve the investments already made on the space hardware.

[@Knaeben]

I work in the facility where the VIPER is being developed and am very sad it's being cancelled.

[@imfromisrael489]

did it work well?

[@Knaeben]

@@imfromisrael489 Lol no

[@orsonzedd]

Why are we building Rovers if we can't keep them alive for more than 2 weeks

[@tiagotiagot]

@@orsonzedd Gotta crawl before you can run

[@imfromisrael489]

@@orsonzedd Perseverance:

[@doncarlodivargas5497]

Going to the toilet have always been an opportunity to relax a little, get away from a boring job, check the news etc, perhaps send a few messages, but with such a stillsuit this will soon be history, we must do our business at the desk, still working, only now with a tank in the suit filled with warm liquid splashing around when you go to lunch

[@frasercain]

That's distopian. :-)

[@tiagotiagot]

New Amazon worker uniform just dropped in!

[@SebSN-y3f]

Thank you Fraiser for your great work! The video was again full of exciting news with great explanations. Your videos are always great, but this one is once again very special! Thanks also for the great shots of your wife!

[@davidt1621]

We'll all be going for lunch, if you know what I mean, but I don't think anyone will be going anywhere for lunch.

[@deanmartin2332]

How could we not know how to build a space probe that’s resistant to Jupiters radiation? How many probes have we sent there now?

[@johnmcnulty4425]

Great update information, Frasier, but those little otters were the real stars!

[@busybillyb33]

If the fish and otters don't get in on the vote, I'm going to be disappointed!

[@davidt1621]

Are we not counting those in the bellies of the whales?

[@MCsCreations]

Thanks for all the news, Fraser! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@music100vid]

Fraiser and team, your presentation of space news always lifts me up and makes my life richer beyond the obvious interest in space and science. Thank you!

[@scragglyohoulihan9566]

I worked on a component for Europa Clipper. It is super sad its going to be delayed. Very excited to see this mission work

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

Small transistors out of spec, big consequences. So delays for Europa Clipper, unfortunately.

[@stevenscharmer1765]

For the SpaceX 2nd stage problem, it was the vacuum engine that had a RUD, not the 2nd stage itself. So the stage stayed intact, it didn't create dozens of smaller pieces that all need to be tracked. Also, the 30 thrusters on the ISS de-orbiter are quite small in width, and will easily fit.

[@davidt1621]

Just because they were made in China doesn't mean she can fit all 30 of them.

[@lennartkienle5157]

Thank you very much for those good objective journalism. Its very appreciated.

[@jklappenbach]

Angry has a great point that it would be far better to auction off the resources aboard ISS and keep in orbit. This would help develop salvage capabilities in LEO, as well as make all the resources and equipment that still has a lifespan available to other projects in space. The only cost to tax payers is keeping ISS in a stable orbit.

[@frasercain]

The problem is that it needs constant re-boosts. What if the buyer abandons it and it crashes randomly on Earth?

[@ajctrading]

Then if they break their contract, sue them and get someone else. Just make sure they don't get Boeing...

[@trignals]

The thing is until it is salvaged it is a liability not an asset. A lawsuit waiting to happen. That goes for Nasa as well as the new owners. Anyone able to use things in LEO knows the ISS is scheduled to deorbit. If lots of people want to keep parts in orbit. Nasa will know about it because those people will contact them. If that is happening Nasa will one day announce they have a new plan for the station.

[@ericsmith6394]

​@@ajctradingthe company will split off the space station assets into an LLC and abandon it. Legally it's very hard to get anything after that and certainly not within deorbit timeframe. Mining companies do this to avoid paying for cleanup when closing mines. Corporations can't be trusted for this when deorbit costs millions. We can't even get them to be responsible on the ground. I'm pretty sure they'd take the multi-million $$ chance that it lands somewhere harmless for free.

[@sum_rye_hash_321]

not to mention that it is getting old and full of holes, metal fatigues over time and with it going from light to dark every 90 mins its had thousands of thermal cycles. It needs so much to be replaced we're getting into the ship of Theseus territory here.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video, Fraser...👍

[@fep_ptcp883]

This new moon endeavor by Nasa is weird. It started as a sequoia, but by the end of the decade we'll have perhaps a bonsai

[@davidt1621]

Give it a few years and it'll be the dodo tree: extinct.

[@arkletv5697]

They're worried about the aliens. We're not welcome.

[@davidt1621]

@@arkletv5697 Sie haben "Willkommen" falsch geschrieben.

[@toms-cubes-and-games]

Thanks, Fraser 👍

[@QUEUK-j8i]

God damn it, I knew it be delayed, but I guess its better been broken here than Jupiter

[@davidt1621]

Well obviously. I expect the DMV will be issuing registration for electric cars on Mars by the time NASA reaches Europa.

[@johnnysheen9615]

The interesting thing about Dark Matter. Is the bigger a galaxy gets, the less dark matter it has. It's thought that because it has "zero" interactions with normal matter. That when Galaxy's collide, the Dark matter just keeps going. Like a head on collision, with the drivers not wearing seatbelts. (The Car is normal matter, the drivers are Dark Matter)

[@davidt1621]

This is my hypothesis. The common expectation that the local density of dark matter is comparatively low within our solar system relative to cosmic scales is merely due to the confusion caused by the measuring of more than one type of dark matter. One continuously expands, while the other fractalizes and interacts locally with physical matter.

[@dantyler6907]

Hard to follow how a body with multiple geysers spews out water. For, who knows how long!!! No way for the body to add water... Unless the bulk of the spewed water makes it back to europa, tobe speded out AGAIN some length of time later? Even with recycling, a fraction of the water is not recovered, which points to the same argument: How is europa's water level maintaining a level that similar outgassing or geyser activity remains constant? Perhaps the volume of considered water much LARGER than most imagine?

[@joshmiller7870]

Hi Fraser. I read Curiosity exposed some rare sulfur crystals, and many "news" outlets make it out to be something of great amazement. I'm curious about what your take on this is and what it means for us. You put things in a clear, concise way. I greatly appreciate that.

[@davidt1621]

I suspect that witches had something to do with this. God knows what they do with crystals to make them smell so rotten. I have my theories though.

[@timpointing]

"a video of a family of otter that my wife captured" Do we want to know why your wife captured the otters? That is something that she otter not do again. Thanks for the great video, Fraser. Keep up the wonderful work. I am really looking forward to the "JWST year-in-review - Mk.2" video. It was terrific last time; this time should be, too.

[@frasercain]

We made so many otter jokes that day.

[@Madash023]

Always love your videos! But more cute wildlife interspersed within would be much appreciated :)

[@jamescobban857]

There is a meme in SF of a sublight generation ship being launched and when they arrive at their destination the planet is already settled by people who used a "hyperspace" vehicle. The Europa Clipper was supposed to be launched by SLS on a faster trajectory. Moving it to Falcon Heavy added two years to its trajectory. However by 2026 Starship will be available and it can launch the Europa Clipper on a direct flight to Jupiter. So a launch delay need not necessarily delay arrival at Jupiter.

[@BB_SlimJa]

NASA what the actual efff! a mass sim when everything built???? ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH NASA!!!

[@richardbloemenkamp8532]

If the Viper sensors cost 300 million and the chances of a successful Griffin mission are low, then in theory it could be the smarter option. But I agree it sounds crazy.

[@montylc2001]

DEI hires.

[@treefarm3288]

Thanks for the video.

[@adirmugrabi]

using flybys is not a method to shorten the duration. but to save fuel

[@kennethpeters7915]

I feel like a modified (Falcon 9) 2nd stage would have the Delta-V to put the ISS into a graveyard orbit. A falcon heavy would have the lift and fairing capacity by default. The price should still leave enough to pay for VIPER.

[@larshagesther8464]

Regarding Viper cancellation - After seeing another video here about gravity waves maybe NASA should put a mirror on the moon rather than a block of concrete? The gravity wave video was great btw. thank you :)

[@TheTamriel]

RIP Wall-E!

[@Fred_Nickles]

I love how Boeing has multiple issues and NASA is just like "yup....send it" leaving astronauts stranded on ISS but SpaceX has ONE failure of a rocket over dozens and dozens of successful launches with no human implications and we get a full FAA investigation.

[@ReggieArford]

Vacuum tubes! It's hard to radiation-damage something that... isn't there. No, not glass envelopes; but in the 1980's there was work done with miniaturized thermionic devices on "chips". 🤨

[@mytube001]

I just wish they would design these probes with a "kick stage" that can put it in a direct transfer to, in this case, Jupiter. It's stupid that we have to wait half a decade or even a decade to get there. And yes, it is possible. New Horizons passed by Jupiter just over a year after launch. Now, slowing down also takes delta V and adds mass and time, but it is fully possible.

[@mbj__]

Viper is probably just NASA being fed up with delays and budget over runs. I guess the tone from NASA goes like this: "Not a single $ more, and the rocket launches as scheduled! If you want any further NASA contracts Viper better be on the Rocket at launch" I think it will "miraculously" get done in time when there is no more money to squeez out if NASA....

[@matthewdavies2057]

ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE

[@jackdowling4606]

Europa Clipper is going to orbit, not land.

[@davidpeet2109]

How does a tidally-locked planet have morning and evening terminators when one side is always exposed to the star and the other side is always away from the star?

[@davidt1621]

It doesn't, unless there's another distant star in the system periodically lighting its dark side. Even Mercury has a spin resonance which allows it to complete three rotations on its axis for every two orbits around the Sun, and it's closer to the Sun than any other planet. Are you trying to imply something about the earth?

[@Gear_labs]

Pls make video on laser communication system. Why europa clipper like mission still using traditional communication system

[@sum_rye_hash_321]

Ohhh no now we're going to have to do a vote for best JWST image again. Its soo hard to choose!

[@frasercain]

You have to do your duty.

[@heaslyben]

Fish analogies are how dolphins do astrophysycs.

[@davidt1621]

One fish, two fish. Blue dwarf, red fish. We had to change it a few times to get to this point.

[@isaacplaysbass8568]

Sad about the rover cancellation it seems insane not to send it, even if only for a short operations window. Love the otters,but not portrait video.

[@scottbender9828]

Why do they keep calling the firing of the super heavy a 'full-duration burn' when it's only a few seconds long?

[@joec7724]

No mention of the Starliner. The crews' return is a month overdue. Is the leak a thing or not?

[@GadZookz]

With the VIPER rover being cancelled we can only hope that the simulator Provides astronauts with a convincing ride. 🙂

[@THX..1138]

Pretty sure SpaceX already said they think they know what happened...Also FAA is likely to approve a return to flight for non manned Falcon flights very soon....And given NASA just asked SpaceX to come up with an ISS Dragon rescue plan it's a good bet it won't be long before Falcon is cleared for a return to human flight too. When it comes down to it SpaceX has fired raptor engines over 3,300 times in those 300+ flights with very few failures.

[@Martin_Hermann]

It boggles my mind how much money NASA wastes all the time.

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

Hi Fraser. Can you answer me this please? Which of the ISS replacements is potentially going to be the largest and most capable? I believe that there are currently around four in the running? Is Axiom the top dog? Thanks ❤

[@SpontaneousIntrospections]

Settle DOWN?? We're on the cusp of the next frontier and in the 1800s they weren't called BOOM Towns for no reason. Better saddle(lite) up and hold on, it's only going to get more dynamic from here.

[@Gilgwathir]

other people: obsessed with lady legs. Me: obsessed with landing legs.

[@Pinpadprompts]

I thought this was a ball shaving tutorial from the thumbnail

[@johnzach2057]

When starship starts flying all these Jupiter missions will likely be simplified since carrying more fuel will be a cheap option.

[@johnzach2057]

It's a $5 billion mission while even a non reusable starship costs $100 million

[@mark1sown]

Omfg thats like a major anomaly not sending the rover 🤔 hmm

[@trignals]

Question: if we find life on Europa is there any way it can have a common ancestor to us? Several km of ice seems like an obstacle to panspermia. Bonus 1 Could we ID common ancestry if divergence was pre-Earth? Bonus 2 Would it point to earth not being the place of origin?

[@markosullivan6444]

Stillsuits process the faeces, too.

[@derivious2012]

Is saturn like dead side on to earth atm? I looked with my new scope and it was a white star with a perfect line as a ring.

[@frasercain]

Yeah, the ring is almost invisible now.

[@vaakdemandante8772]

NASA is falling waaay behind other space agencies and I still haven't decided if they are just that incompetent or is it done on purpose. Either way other space agencies seem to have both more successes and they also try a lot more. You'd have to wonder how is it that the top dog of space exploration has become so toothless throughout they years.

[@joblo341]

Any idea why the De-orbiter needs it's own solar "wings"? ISS has HUGE solar arrays that should be still working even then.

[@frasercain]

A spacecraft needs its own power system.

[@NicholasNerios]

Best story.... Your wife's fish video. Very earthy...

[@babyoda1973]

As a species we need more than one way out god place evry company in the space industry 😊❤

[@LordSlag]

"All these worlds are yours save Europa. Attempt no landings there."

[@frasercain]

It's just a flyby

[@LordSlag]

@@frasercain I just thought it was a topical quote I Just KNEW you'd get, good sir. :)

[@RestlessRebel]

Dammit why..

[@davidt1621]

Because reasons..

[@geraldinefields1730]

Thank you and your wife.

[@a59x]

I don't understand the VIPER cancellation process a single bit, how are they sending a rocket to the moon for absolutely no reason? Can't they utilize something out of this launch if it's bound to go to the moon anyway?

[@frasercain]

They've already paid for the flight. Yeah, it's a baffling decision, and more to do with politics than science.

[@Yutani_Crayven]

First owls, now fish. What's next? Space bears (tardigrades)? edit: Theres otters, too. Wth?!

[@phoule76]

Wait, so my adult diaper isn't a still suit?

[@m0xya]

This may be silly question, but why de-orbit the ISS? Why not send it off into deeper space? Seems a terrible waste of a platform..

[@rogerdudra178]

I read Dune 30 years back I think.

[@richardbloemenkamp8532]

Possible, I found the book in my fathers cabinet in some slightly archaic version of Dutch from the 1960's 1970's. Great book.

[@MarcoRoepers]

Don´t know how to vote: The biggest news is the cancellation of VIPER, but it is also the worst news. It also puts question marks on how NASA is run.

[@johnbush3835]

I vote for the otters as the best video.

[@babyoda1973]

Falcon 9 and starlink 😢 but what are the number over all of mission to space if im not mistaken his record's no worst than any😊

[@nicevideomancanada]

NASA spent over $1,000,000 in the 60s to develop a pen that worked in weightlessness. The Russians used a Pencil.

[@frasercain]

That's not the real story. Fisher developed the pen independently and sold them for regular pen prices to NASA, using the deal as free marketing. Pencils leads break and float around, and they're flammable, so pens are better.

[@bobbastian760]

The -Dacia Sandero- Europe Clipper has been delayed

[@SirGiulio90]

Hi Fraser, would it be possibile for NASA to send a couple of Perseverance/Ingenuity class rover to the moon to make a lot of science ? Thanks and keep up the amazing work !

[@frasercain]

Absolutely, but Congress would need to give NASA a few more billion dollars.

[@harshalshah4685]

Does time move thru space, or does space move thru time? Or is it a bit of both?

[@kevinim300]

damn it, 6yrs is still way to long for take out.

[@bludragonproject9677]

And whats happening with SpinLaunch?

[@Gilgwathir]

The US gov: we gonna go back to the moon by 2030. Also the US gov: But we gonna cancel the mission that would actually make sure we go somewhere worthwhile. I don't get it. They can build SLS, have it go way over budged and still fund it, even though private industry is providing rides to space just fine. But when they build a one of a kind rover they are happy to just dismantle it and still pay to send an fing mass simulator. I lost IQ points from just hearing about it.

[@NoNAME-qi9tq]

Steel suite in a hot desert 😅.. No Thank You!!

[@n6hpx]

It sucks to cancel the viper rover

[@Crimsonoverlord.]

maybe if the suit had an injection mechanism for an iv system for the recycled water

[@michelleloader5560]

Hi❤

[@pirateroberts1472]

Voyager probes still running. Newer probes don’t last any time. Something isn’t right

[@zapfanzapfan]

So, when does that egg hatch? 🥚🐧

[@frasercain]

Another few million years

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="530">08:50</a> If this thing has that much power, they could use it to push it higher into one of those junk orbits where they put useless satellites that are too dangerous to de-orbit.

[@DamianReloaded]

It could be that planets like Europa are the ones who have stable life production and are constantly seeding life into a solar system that goes though many phases of life and extinction. Oil industry if you're reading: There could potentially be Aeons of oil there wating for freedom.

[@bobinthewest8559]

Europa is waiting for democracy

[@DavidJones-me7yr]

With that satellite possibly not being able to do other flybys,, how much speed would it lose between Earth and Europa?? How far would a satellite go before I came to a dead stop?? Inquiring minds want to know! Lol😮😢😊

[@rheffner3]

Not really part of your show but related to the collection of water from urine. The state of our spacesuits is disgraceful. We still use the suits from like 50 years ago. WTF! How much could it cost to develop modern suits? A few hundred million? Big frigging deal! And one of the companies who was supposed to develop a new suit has pulled out. Hard to believe.

[@danc2578]

Such a large investment in ISS. Seems dumb to waste it. By awarding the deorbit contract, NASA has essentially given ISS to SpaceX. Why not push it to a higher more stable orbit, use it for research or emergencies, etc?

[@rjoshb]

Why not recycle that space station? Surely those bureaucrats at NASA can figure out something useful with the parts. Not.

[@JenniferA886]

👍👍👍

[@JohnMuz1]

2026 hehe. I'm still shocked that starship landed / sea'ed with a burnt through flap.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

Poor Europa Clipper.

[@tomholroyd7519]

The pace of the launch market is intense. People make mistakes when they are in a hurry, and things fall out of the sky. Take a step back and do some breathing exercises.

[@johnaweiss]

Astronomers kind of don't know what dark matter is? I thought it remains one of the biggest mysteries in all of astronomy and physics not just kind of.

[@mikeg9b]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="632">10:32</a> Didn't Blue Origin sell the ship two years ago? KZbin doesn't allow links in comments, so here's an excerpt of a CNN article: "Jeff Bezos - the billionaire founder of Amazon and rocket company Blue Origin - made a grand public announcement a year ago that he purchased a ship to capture Blue Origin rockets after they return from space, and he named the vessel after his mother. But now the company says it is doing away with that plan, seeking a more “cost effective” alternative, Blue Origin spokesperson Linda Mills said. It is not clear what will happen to the Jacklyn, as the ship is called, which Bezos dedicated to his mother in a small ceremony in Pensacola, Florida in December 2020. Blue Origin could still use the ship for another purpose or abandon the project altogether. Mills said the company is “still assessing options.” "

[@frasercain]

It'll be a barge like Falcon 9

[@mrjava66]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="185">3:05</a> ummmm… these VEGA trajectories stink. We could just buy a big enough rocket to leave earth on a Hoffman transfer orbit. Then every thirteen months we have a window for a 15 month trip. The VEGA trajectory is the problem here.

[@zapfanzapfan]

It was gonna launch on SLS but they build so few of them and they cost so much that that changed.

[@deanmartin2332]

It’s sad the US has to take the lead in practically every mission to the outer planets.

[@philochristos]

Do you have to have a catheter to use a still suit? Sorry, I haven't read or seen Dune.

[@oldtimer2662]

Fish 🐠 penguins 🐧 robins 🐦 otters 🦦 thanks Fraser 😝

[@bigden31]

What's a kill o meter?

[@frasercain]

1000 meters. Kind of like a kill-o-gram

[@orsonzedd]

Oh it actually still let the starlink satellites go that sucks I was hoping they would explode or something

[@calendarbaby]

Im going to go dumpster diving at NASA for the viper rover

[@relafleur5114]

NASA shouldnt be prioritizing the moon, anyways. The reason we stopped going in the 70's is because there's nothing there thats worth the billions of dollars spent to go there. In 2024, its even more expensive, but theres still nothing there. There are plenty of other projects we could spend the money on

[@goiterlanternbase]

We can drill way deeper into the Moon, than into the Earth. We have a lot of ideas of how mineralogy on the crust/ mantle border works and we have no way of proving them. The lunar polar ice contains an archive of the earths atmosphere, that reaches back to the abiogenesis. The genetic treasure alone, will run, who ever gets the cores down first's fortune for generations. Not counting that we will have a contiguous climate archive for most of the time, the earth had an atmosphere.

[@bluesteel8376]

I completely disagree. I think NASA should be focusing more on the moon and scrap other projects instead. The moon is where we will test out the technologies need to go to Mars or Mercury or some other place. Viper would have been more valuable to humanity then Europa clipper will be.