What’s on the Surface of Venus? A History of the Venera Program

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Fraser Cain

Fraser Cain

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@rollespil1000
@rollespil1000 7 жыл бұрын
Deep down, haven't we all been hurt by lens caps?
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
After recording this video, I threw them all out... just to be safe.
@truckcaptainstumpy1978
@truckcaptainstumpy1978 7 жыл бұрын
ME TOO. you should see all the great photo's i just took of me spelunking then! now if i could just remember to use the flash at night...
@doggonemess1
@doggonemess1 7 жыл бұрын
By the third lens cap failure, I'd be installing explosive bolts on the mechanism. Lens cover open? No? Deploy secondary lens cover remover!
@Gibson99
@Gibson99 6 жыл бұрын
OBVIOUSLY they found aliens and just didn't want to tell us. Just like the "failed" missions to mars. YES, i'm being sarcastic.
@sahinyasar9119
@sahinyasar9119 5 жыл бұрын
@@frasercain I tihink we need an artificial Magnetosphere and a sun shield for terraform of Venus for make to reduce heat and to reduce atmospheric pressure on the planet Do you think it is possible to terraform Venus using these two?
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
Fuckin lens caps gave the landers even more trouble than they give me!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
They truly are a bane to all mankind. I've been trying to think of space-related projects for your channel, and you've already gone searching for meteorites, and space dust. We should think of some kind of collaboration some time.
@Tehom1
@Tehom1 7 жыл бұрын
It made me feel better about every picture of my thumb I ever took.
@DamianReloaded
@DamianReloaded 7 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be tricky, cause cody's experiments take some time and preparation. Maybe Fraser could dig up some hypothesis from his archive on terraforming, like hydroponics from minerals present in regolith. Also: Cody, didn't you participate in NASA's 3D printing challenge? Your knowledge about materials and foundry could be useful me thinks. Cheers both of you.
@Pile_of_carbon
@Pile_of_carbon 7 жыл бұрын
Lens cap designer, you had_ ONE_ job!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
One job! I'm sure that was a sore spot in the Russian Space Agency. Did you think about the lens caps? Seriously... the lens caps.
@poppedweasel
@poppedweasel 7 жыл бұрын
"23 minutes of robotic screaming." Funniest thing I heard all day!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed that. :-)
@poppedweasel
@poppedweasel 7 жыл бұрын
That comment, along with the great and informative video has been very much enjoyed. Thankyou. :) ..........subscribed.
@TheGunslinger019
@TheGunslinger019 6 жыл бұрын
Robots have feelings too 😛
@nathanielworcester4843
@nathanielworcester4843 5 жыл бұрын
This had me laughing too.
@freshang1
@freshang1 3 жыл бұрын
ditto
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 7 жыл бұрын
23 minutes of Robotic screaming.... "THE PAIN! THE HEAT! I'M MELTING! I WANT TO GO HOME!!!!.... I'm gonna die here aren't I?"
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what it sounded like, I'm sure.
@GilenoRanna
@GilenoRanna 6 жыл бұрын
DocWolph Now imagine this in Russian :p
@Room-xi6nb
@Room-xi6nb 5 жыл бұрын
Now I'm gonna cry. :(
@Anonymity55
@Anonymity55 5 жыл бұрын
welcome to android hell
@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966
@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 5 жыл бұрын
More like, 'It is getting wery hotski!'.
@KenMac-ui2vb
@KenMac-ui2vb 6 жыл бұрын
I am STILL amazed at the success of the Venera Program. To this day, I am just floored that they were able to do it.
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY agree. It actually went down into an incredible hostile place and took pictures. I can't wait for someone to go back and explore again.
@indiosse
@indiosse 6 жыл бұрын
dont forget mars 3 onto mars it was actually a succesfull landing, but venus what an environment
@joshkusiak7613
@joshkusiak7613 6 жыл бұрын
K Mac yet the Russian keep fucking up mars mission
@killap3nguin
@killap3nguin 5 жыл бұрын
K Mac literally accomplished nothing.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshkusiak7613 The Soviets* sent the first picture from the surface of Mars. It was barely usable but it still counts... * The majority of Soviets were NOT Russian.
@rebelScience
@rebelScience 7 жыл бұрын
So amazing! I was in Moscow Space Museum yesterday, there was a lecture by one of the engineers who worked on all Venera programs... and he personally knew Carl Sagan. He showed us many more images of Venus, I never seen before. Trying to get my hands on them right now.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see them, are they available online or were they just photographs. If you can get copies of them, please email me. Did you ask about the lens caps? :-)
@rebelScience
@rebelScience 7 жыл бұрын
I tried searching for them on then bet after the lecture but could not find any. There were few, with some sort of vegetation... looked like a flower and one with, what looked like a lizard type of creature. Strange thing about those images was - they moved from image to image as if a lizard was crawling a bit and flower-like things were moving in a wind... He had his USB stick with slides and images. I have contacted the guy, who was the host of the lecture, asking about if we can get those images. Lens caps failed to drop off because of the dust and other elements... He said, that bolts, that had to explode and shoot the caps off got stuck in some sort of goo because of all that dust and other particles in the atmosphere.. I will definitely update you on my findings. Just subbed to you after being Isaacs fan for a long time.
@aompes
@aompes 6 жыл бұрын
is there any update about the pics ?
@notsure6187
@notsure6187 5 жыл бұрын
rebelCoder (Юрий.Л.) lizards? what? lol
@ReneSchickbauer
@ReneSchickbauer 5 жыл бұрын
@@frasercain Don P. Mitchell restored the downlinked images from the original tapes. The pictures were far from grainy, only the western press showed 3rd and 4th generation copies, mostly to downplay the "communist" achievement. mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm Also, there weren't "color" and "black&white" cameras. The cameras where mechanically scanned single-pixel light sensors with a photomultiplier and a logarithmic amplifier. Every pixel was a scientific measurement. Color was achieved by flipping different color filters into the imaging path after the first full pass and doing partial passes to get a color image for part of the 180° view within the alotted lifetime of the probe.
@Federico84
@Federico84 7 жыл бұрын
the greatest enemies of the soviet union were lens caps
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the evil lens caps. I sure would have hated to be the lens cap designer for the Soviets.
@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966
@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 5 жыл бұрын
@@frasercain Yeah. Whoever it was died of a 9×18mm brain hemorrhage!
@zaho87
@zaho87 5 жыл бұрын
@@frasercain Ironically, I remember somewhere reading that it was the director of the Venera missions that designed the lens caps himself, and he was leading the best scientists the USSR had to offer. That person conducted some of the most horrific experiments on robots ever recorded in human history.
@ReneSchickbauer
@ReneSchickbauer 5 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, if you ever need a lens cap that stays on no matter what, the russian space agency has some great designs.
@wan7ucxOqSUBryTgfpBr7777
@wan7ucxOqSUBryTgfpBr7777 4 жыл бұрын
Venusians know exactly how to sabotage this project, just dont let the lens cap off
@blindandwatching
@blindandwatching 7 жыл бұрын
Vega 1 and 2 used upgraded equipment from the Venera. Vega probes passed Venus to get on the right trajectory to intercept comet Halley. Vega 2's lander successfully landed on Venus in 1985 and lasted 56 hours. Also Vega 2 deployed a balloon that collected atmospheric data for several hours.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 7 жыл бұрын
"Hey, Ivan, what's up? I thought this was the time for your engineering class?" "Da, but I'm skipping today. Today the prof is just talking about lens cap engineering. What possible importance could that have?"
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan!!!
@s.wollberg4247
@s.wollberg4247 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite episodes. I had no idea about those lens cap issues. Love how the Soviets just stubbornly kept sending probe after probe after probe until it worked.
@taraswertelecki7874
@taraswertelecki7874 5 жыл бұрын
There were two more landers that landed on the night side of Venus, which were carried by the Vega 1 and 2 probes, along with two balloon probes that studied the atmosphere in the clouds. Because they landed on the night side, no cameras were carried, but they analyzed the surface rocks and studied the atmosphere. As the landers separated from their aeroshells, the balloon probes were ejected, deployed a parachute, then inflated their balloons.
@sergio_botero
@sergio_botero 7 жыл бұрын
The rover on Venus sounds exciting and interesting, but there are far more reasons to be hopeful about robotic landers on Titan and Europa among many other places that may contain liquid water and perhaps, primitive life.
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 7 жыл бұрын
Sergio Botero Id love to see Titan rovers. Rivers, lakes and methane "rain" falling like snow possibly. We dont know but since we can observe river channel from space, observe lakes from space and even waves. Well i dare say it would all be a beautiful alien site, unmatched in our solar system
@ABitOfTheUniverse
@ABitOfTheUniverse 7 жыл бұрын
They are too far away for presidents or their administrations to care enough to devote tax payer money to those sorts of endeavors. Sorry. Be happy we can do anything with the Moon in 4-8 years, let alone Mars, and don't hold out for anything else. It takes 20-30 years of persistence to get any sorts of missions, from suggestions, to actual products that get strapped to rockets, and then 5-10 years for them to reach places beyond Mars. That 5-10 years being greater than the 4-8 of an administration is a very serious hurdle when it comes down to the money spent. On top of that the negative press that comes from failed missions, vs the negative press that comes from just never even bother and just letting the space program slowly die, is so much greater, that it is more and more profitable for each new president to just reduce NASA's budget rather than to increase the safety or reliability of the rockets. But I'm American and so I am biased and just think NASA is all that matters in terms of space exploration. For the sake of the human race's future in space, I'm looking forward to the future where Chinese or Russian are the languages of the solar system, and English is just something primitives back on Earth, grunt to each other.
@ABitOfTheUniverse
@ABitOfTheUniverse 7 жыл бұрын
Here, I'll help you choose which language to learn. Which do you find more aesthetically pleasing: Я подчиняюсь. У ваших людей большая космическая программа, чем у моей старой страны, и я хочу помочь вам завладеть этой планетой. or: 我投降。你的人民有比我的旧国家更大的空间计划,我想帮助你接管这个星球。
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I agree that we should go to Titan, but why do we have to choose. In my imagination, we travel everywhere. :-)
@VRShow
@VRShow 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, everywhere would be my choice but if we do have to choose, let it be Titan and via a rover design that is amphibious well can drive over land and sail over liquid methane :)
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 7 жыл бұрын
Venus is hotter than the average oven but just right for a pizza oven. I sense a business opportunity, Venus baked pizzas :-)
@ReneSchickbauer
@ReneSchickbauer 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure how you gonna achieve the "delivered in 30 minutes" promise most pizza places give you. And can i have mine without the "sulfuric acid" topping, thank you very much?
@lAsteriosl
@lAsteriosl 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever smell sulfur? It does not smell tasty
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 7 жыл бұрын
And to this day, Russian-made cameras do not have lens-caps.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
They learned their terrible terrible lesson.
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. It's a real honor to hear from you :D
@LENGTHEATER
@LENGTHEATER 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome to lense cap hell!!!!!!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
No kidding, I wonder what happened to those poor lens cap engineers. :-(
@LENGTHEATER
@LENGTHEATER 7 жыл бұрын
probably studying the sun with cameras (no damage to eyes, lense caps still on)
@bknesheim
@bknesheim 7 жыл бұрын
They used the original plastic cover. :-)
@i_notold8500
@i_notold8500 7 жыл бұрын
What happened to them? You really don't believe those are "volunteers" working and cleaning up at Chernobyl do you?
@LENGTHEATER
@LENGTHEATER 7 жыл бұрын
They should have designed it with CAPS LOCK.
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid 7 жыл бұрын
Decades later, Russian scientists are still waking up screaming, dreaming of lens caps.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
They know what they did...
@GodWorksOut
@GodWorksOut 7 жыл бұрын
Sending rovers and probes to other places is so amazing. We are lucky to live in a time where information is starting to come back to us and discoveries are being made. :)
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, it's an amazing time. :-)
@teweller
@teweller 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I never realized they sent so many. I figured it was just a couple. I bet the lens cap guy got shipped off to Siberia.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
No kidding. I didn't realize the lens cap disaster until I started researching the topic.
@danielebrparish4271
@danielebrparish4271 5 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming that they had to get a new lens cap team for every vehicle because each previous one was sent to Siberia.
@notsure6187
@notsure6187 5 жыл бұрын
Venus is closer. probably why.
@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966
@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 5 жыл бұрын
No, they just stuffed him into the next Probe!
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielebrparish4271 And that is why they never learned.
@georgebowyer5170
@georgebowyer5170 7 жыл бұрын
please do more videos like this on the history of space exploration i think this was one of your best videos. keep up the good work
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it. We've been pushing for longer videos, more pictures/videos. More better. :-) It's good to know you all appreciate that direction.
@arcitejack
@arcitejack 7 жыл бұрын
Lens caps!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
The scourge of all science.
@itzed
@itzed 7 жыл бұрын
Seems like the soviets had a lot of problems with lens caps.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't realize that going in, but it was clearly the theme of the episode.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 5 жыл бұрын
It is interesting as to why they failed to deploy. They were designed with a small explosive charge, that build up pressure inside to push off the lens cap. However, in space a seal had formed around the edge, so the pressures could not equalize on the atmosphere and behind the lens cap. The result is hundreds of tons of pressure holding the lens cap closed, and a tiny explosive charge wont make a big difference in that (sadly).
@adfaklsdjf
@adfaklsdjf 5 жыл бұрын
@@tHaH4x0r Hey, thanks for this! I dove into the comments to look for discussion of WHY the lens caps kept failing, and my guess was it had to do with 93 atmospheres of pressure holding them on...
@ReneSchickbauer
@ReneSchickbauer 5 жыл бұрын
It feels a bit like the Ranger program. A 3 out of 9 success rate isn't all that great.
@ekaichsani2171
@ekaichsani2171 5 жыл бұрын
you made a single mistake by saying that no lander after venera 14, actually there're another 2 landers which was on vega program that also landed on venus.
@marcusfpavani
@marcusfpavani 7 жыл бұрын
I think this was one of the funniest videos of the last couple months.. hahahahah. Great job Fraser!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it. :-)
@mantaskatleris8261
@mantaskatleris8261 7 жыл бұрын
best video on Venus I've ever seen. You are the man Fraser
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. :-)
@VRShow
@VRShow 7 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Would have been interesting to add details about the cloud layers. I believe you may have in an earlier show? If memory serves...either way at 50 to 65km above the surface the cloud layer atmosphere and temperature is roughly that of earths, making it a cool place to hang out...if you could literally hang out there via some type of floating device like an airship :)
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we talked a bit about it in this episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d32lfpePbpKGkNU&index=12&list=PLbJ42wpShvml6Eg22WjWAR-6QUufHFh2v
@bjmaguire6269
@bjmaguire6269 6 жыл бұрын
At those pressures even submarines would float in the atmosphere:)
@funfactory6273
@funfactory6273 4 жыл бұрын
Man.. you’ve powerful presentation skills ! Nice video.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jonpsp
@jonpsp 5 жыл бұрын
No mention of the Soviet Vega probes, with landers and balloons? The spacecraft moved onto Halley's Comet after dropping off their payloads on Venus.
@frasercain
@frasercain 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to cover the Venera program, which gave us the first images from the surface of Venus.
@IvanGalin
@IvanGalin 3 жыл бұрын
@@frasercain Fake scientist - wikipedia reader
@TheDalitis8
@TheDalitis8 5 жыл бұрын
At this point, a Soviet-Japanese collaboration on camera lens caps would do humanity a huge favor.
@dangerouspie0319
@dangerouspie0319 7 жыл бұрын
Lens caps: a rocket scientist's greatest weakness.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
We always suspected they were the weak link.
@wilsonblauheuer6544
@wilsonblauheuer6544 6 жыл бұрын
they should have just sent it without lens caps
@notsure6187
@notsure6187 5 жыл бұрын
wilson blauheuer they would probably be unusable then
@filiusstellae849
@filiusstellae849 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, a very interesting episode. I learnt so much for this. Thank you for your very informative videos. I know space is hard but testing the compressability of your lens cap would surely make you cry!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. :-) Yeah, that must have been heartbreaking.
@torenico
@torenico 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making an episode on the Venera program!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. :-)
@titantron1813
@titantron1813 7 жыл бұрын
"to confirm that it really truly...sucks" hahaha made me laugh
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Now you're edutained!
@keithh6866
@keithh6866 7 жыл бұрын
I want that high temperature circuitry for my PC and video cards. Put that space tech in my game tech.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Overclock with impunity.
@edoedo8686
@edoedo8686 6 жыл бұрын
This is superb! I will keep seeing this as a reference. The Venera program is fascinating to me!
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I totally agree, one of the most fascinating missions ever.
@Durrutitv
@Durrutitv 7 жыл бұрын
And that's how the Soviets confirmed, for a fact, that women are not from Venus after all. Persistence pays off.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
That's all they really wanted to know. And to corner the lens cap market.
@AuthenticDarren
@AuthenticDarren 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Fraser, I reallly enjoyed it. Thanks.
@frasercain
@frasercain 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@BensLab
@BensLab 7 жыл бұрын
I am very excited by the thought of returning to Venus...This was a great video Fraser. It's such an amazing story. More Venus please!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, more Venus. There are some great stories in history like this, I'll dig them up for you in coming episodes.
@BensLab
@BensLab 7 жыл бұрын
Fraser Cain You're my favourite Canadian space guy.
@kinorai
@kinorai 7 жыл бұрын
In Soviet's Venus, rover don't take picture, Venus takes pictures of you. ...
@Keith136ful
@Keith136ful 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Fraser, how about a little translation on some of the data you mention on these videos. Had to stop the playback and calc 6.5m/s and 521 hours to get a feel for what these data really mean - about 31 mph and 3 weeks. I think giving data in everyday units gives most of us a better feel for the story you're trying to tell. Thanks for another great video and I love these historical looks back.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kenneth, m/s is a pretty common way to describe speed. Sometimes I'll remember to translate the metric into imperial, and sometimes I forget.
@joet-sk4sw
@joet-sk4sw 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the most detailed info I've gotten yet on the Venus topic,I never knew that there were that many cafts that had ever made it there,with that many lens cap issues.
@peterpanassow7814
@peterpanassow7814 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thanks for posting. 👍
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chicagopianou86
@chicagopianou86 7 жыл бұрын
who would give this a dislike lol
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
The lens cap designers, obviously.
@xaraxen
@xaraxen 4 жыл бұрын
On a lesser degree, soil compression probe designer
@SecularMentat
@SecularMentat 7 жыл бұрын
Those russians sure did send a lot of faulty lens caps to Venus.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were trying to get rid of them?
@robertbennett9949
@robertbennett9949 4 жыл бұрын
They were Soviets and not Russians. Designing lens caps which would survive 90 atmospheres pressure and 800 degrees temperature and yet be removable was a real challenge.
@hrsmp
@hrsmp 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertbennett9949 Hate to break it to you: soviets were russians. Russian was lingua franca of Soviet Union (still used to this day in ex-soviet countries), the capital was in Moscow, soviet leaders spoke russian, whole west at that time referred to USSR as simply "Russia" (google some old magazines or newspapers, or ask your parents). After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, all foreign obligations including debt, etc, was inhereted by Russian Federation. Your fantasy world where "soviets" were an actual ethnicity never existed, i'm sorry.
@hrsmp
@hrsmp 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertbennett9949 In fact when Stalin trued to push for other soviet republics like Ukraine and Belarus to have a separate seat at the UN counsil, US president at that time (Truman, i think) replied: "In that case, every US state will have a separate representative too". And that story ended there.
@folkblues4u
@folkblues4u 2 жыл бұрын
You really did your research on this. Well done!
@DuuudeMaaan
@DuuudeMaaan 4 жыл бұрын
"To confirm once and for all that it really truly does suck" hahahaa
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 жыл бұрын
That place really is the worst.
@Arrowed_Sparrow
@Arrowed_Sparrow 5 жыл бұрын
It seems so ridiculous they couldn't get a simple camera working.... Then I remember, ITS VENUS! They basically landed in an active volcano that's set in deep ocean. It's truly amazing.
@DedSec_7
@DedSec_7 6 жыл бұрын
That line tho "23 minute's of robotic screamings" 😂😂🤣🤣
@AaezI
@AaezI 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@kanchanlatamishra7176
@kanchanlatamishra7176 5 жыл бұрын
Damn those lens caps
@frasercain
@frasercain 5 жыл бұрын
It's tricky making a lens cap able to handle those kinds of conditions.
@kanchanlatamishra7176
@kanchanlatamishra7176 5 жыл бұрын
Hi man ! I was just kidding in my comment I know it was really difficult to remotely operate the Venera spacecrafts during that time and that too under such extreme pressure and temperature conditions of Venerian atmosphere BTW, I really appreciate your channel for these cool space videos
@oleksiikovalenko8544
@oleksiikovalenko8544 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine lens cap failure on the Titan probe... We'd have to wait so long for another one... btw, are there videos about Titan coming up?
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I don't have plans for one, but I can put that in the list. :-)
@samus5094
@samus5094 4 жыл бұрын
The reason so many Venus probes had problems with the lens caps was most likely the high temperature and pressure that prevented them from deploying; Titan doesn't have that specific problem. But you are right that if something major goes wrong, it's a damn long wait for the next attempt.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 6 жыл бұрын
Despite the frustrating and darkly comedic errors, the Venera programme was utterly brilliant and showcased the capability of a determined Soviet scientific team. They even managed to construct a chamber that perfectly simulated the conditions of the Venusian surface just to ensure they gave the probes half a chance to function in the wretched conditions. This was 1970s communist level technology. Just think of the cars they were pumping out at the time. I'll never hear a bad word said about this extraordinary accomplishment.
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, easily my favorite series of missions. :-)
@adamlamar101
@adamlamar101 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic history! LOL.. “23 minutes of robotic screaming”
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it was horrifying to hear. The lens caps... they do nothing!
@paulbennett772
@paulbennett772 3 жыл бұрын
In my (English) view, sending back colour photographs from the surface of Venus is the single greatest achievement of space exploration.
@andypandywalters
@andypandywalters 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative video. Many thanks.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 7 жыл бұрын
My suggestion for a mission would be a simple lander with a single purpose, to take a gigapixel panorama of the landing site. 1-2 hours survival time should be enough to accomplish that and send back the data. Maybe a Google Venus Lander challenge :-)
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
But I think a lander or even rover should stick around and keep exploring. That would be ideal.
@treefarm3288
@treefarm3288 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was totally cool. Although I knew about many of the Venera landers, I hadn't considered how much work the Soviets had put into their program. They should take it up again!
@frasercain
@frasercain 5 жыл бұрын
And the best part was the pictures from the surface of Venus. 😀
@chevyclean8971
@chevyclean8971 7 жыл бұрын
I am upset because Frasier Cain doesn't have as many followers or views as other channels. And some of those other channels have straight up garbage!! Keep up the great work my brother. Huge fan.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. If you want to help out, definitely subscribe and click the little notifications bell. Then watch our videos as quickly as we post them. That'll let KZbin know our content is good for other users.
@Mirandorl
@Mirandorl 6 жыл бұрын
1:10 I actually cheered. Out loud : ) SPAAAACE. Hell yeah I'm excited to see more venus. This time with a really good camera that you can move. And no lens cap. An aside - artists impressions = boooooooo. Can never tell if I am looking at painting, CGI or a real shot. Stop that, space artists : (
@mattizzle81
@mattizzle81 5 жыл бұрын
To think it's 2019 and they started exploring Venus in the 50's!! Though for all they knew if could have been a habitable earth-like world so I can see how there would have been a lot of motivation to explore and find out. Now we know it's hell so there isn't much motivation.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 4 жыл бұрын
Some people thought Venus would hide a sort of Carboniferous type world with swamps and dinosaurs on it. Which would have been cool.
@Fullmetalseth
@Fullmetalseth 7 жыл бұрын
Venus is my favorite planet. So happy the Japanese are studying it. I would be totally stoked to see a new lander mission. Also can't wait for the day we go fossil digging on Mars and Venus.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but we're going to need some special technology for that.
@gSol78
@gSol78 3 жыл бұрын
There was also the Vega program (Venus - Halley), 1984-1987. Probes Vega-1 and Vega-2 in 1985 landed descent vehicles on Venus, as well as air probes that collected (and transmitted) information for 46 hours at an altitude of 55 km (34 miles). After which the probes went to a rendezvous with Halley's comet.
@vhyles
@vhyles 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there Fraser, when are you gonna do a video about the difference between point singularities and ring singularities, and the difference between stellar non-rotating black holes and supermassive rotating black holes? Thank you
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I will do a video specifically on these. Rotating black holes get pretty complex. :-)
@vhyles
@vhyles 7 жыл бұрын
Sure no worries (y)
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 6 жыл бұрын
Venera 7: "why! Why was I programmed to experience pain!?!?"
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, that would have been extra cruel.
@Entropicalli
@Entropicalli 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I found this pretty funny 😂
@Ali107
@Ali107 7 жыл бұрын
5:44 someone is walking in the background!!! XD
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Probably. We shoot on trails near my house, which sometimes backfires when people walk past, and we have to explain what we're doing.
@truckcaptainstumpy1978
@truckcaptainstumpy1978 7 жыл бұрын
...and next weeK: interview with Bigfoot - the real reason he hides from the crazy hairless simians? light pollution!
@AvyScottandFlower
@AvyScottandFlower 7 жыл бұрын
Well, at least it wasn't a bear..
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
We've seen a bear coming back from a shoot, but we haven't had one actually wander through the shoot yet.
@zestydude87
@zestydude87 7 жыл бұрын
Yeti photo-bomb....
@barryjgalbraith2635
@barryjgalbraith2635 6 жыл бұрын
Obviously the Venusians have developed a special super glue just for the Earthlings lens caps! Great video.
@denzelnyangombe4049
@denzelnyangombe4049 7 жыл бұрын
This guy is a great Presenter
@lambdaodysseus722
@lambdaodysseus722 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, what about the Vega program?
@horizonbrave1533
@horizonbrave1533 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Fraser! I had no idea the Soviets were so...obsessed with getting on Venus.. lol, good though as it seems we all benefited from the knowledge... When they were doing these landings, were they opening sharing the information with the US and the world? Or were they holding it to themselves and we found out later?
@greghanc
@greghanc 7 жыл бұрын
Question to Fraser: You have previously said that Mars is not you ideal starting place to discover space. But you would not become suicidal if they descided to focus on Mars in the near future?
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
It's not my favorite place to colonize. I think we should develop orbital colonies, but if someone wants to try to live on Mars, they've got my support.
@greghanc
@greghanc 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. I Concur with your chain of thought..
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the _Fahrenheit_, Fraser!
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 7 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. It was just the first one
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
I try to remember. Fahrenheit is the toughest one for me, because we have no concept of it in our normal thinking about temperature. Well, except for the oven.
@daTruChosen
@daTruChosen 5 жыл бұрын
@6:43 Cool! Venera-9 was launched the day I was born.
@zauberschatzkiste
@zauberschatzkiste 6 жыл бұрын
"to confirm that it really truly sucks" -- xD ..that's the attitude!
@Makoto778
@Makoto778 7 жыл бұрын
9:30 - uhm dont forget about the Pioneer Venus probes and the Soviet Vega program that landed in the 80s
@taith2
@taith2 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, when they first accurately simulated Venus environment and put their probe for test the only thing remaining from craft were just lenses
@frasercain
@frasercain 5 жыл бұрын
In Soviet Russia, cameras lens you?
@alexandrebriard9175
@alexandrebriard9175 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I have an oral in science about scientific discovery and advancement soon it must last 2 minutes and I would love to talk about the venera program! Do you have any ideas on what part I should talk about just to make sure I don't talk too much about history and I'm not out of the subject? Btw I love your videos! Greeting from france
@frasercain
@frasercain 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hopefully this video will help you. Good luck!
@Raz.C
@Raz.C 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Professor Cain Are you able to find out any information on the fate of the doomed Soviet schmuck who was responsible for the operation/ automation of the cameras (specifically, the lens caps) on the Venera missions? I mean, I think we can all *guess* what happened to him, to his family, to his neighbours, to the people who recommended him for his job, to his superiors, and to his cat's uncle's family. But it would be nice to *know* The Venera missions ran from '61 to '84, so that means he would have had to run the wrath of Khrushchev, Brezhnev AND Gorbachev (I think there was also 1 unremarkable, faceless minion between the last two). While I can see a certain laissez faire attitude projected by Khrushchev and Gorbachev, Brezhnev never struck me as the type to show mercy or spare lives, etc... I rather think he was the most Stalin-like G.S./ F.S. of the USSR since Stalin... Still, if he lived through that, Yeltsin was a drunk and he would have lived through his term, too. But if this mystery man was still alive in 2,000, something tells me he would have found all his teas had a unique polonium flavour to them...
@JimmyBlimps
@JimmyBlimps 7 жыл бұрын
So cool. How are photographs transmitted over such massive distances? I've always wondered
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
The spacecraft have very powerful transmitters, and there are even bigger receivers here on Earth.
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 5 жыл бұрын
The Soviets would just not give up, they are persistent In the USA we would have given up after the 2nd one, or waited 10 years till the next try
@GreenGoblinCoryintheHouse
@GreenGoblinCoryintheHouse 5 жыл бұрын
Space Missions require a lot of funding. Soviets were in competition with the americans,it was a matter of pride. Space race led to beautiful missions.
@darth856
@darth856 4 жыл бұрын
Venus is the closest planet to Earth, that probably played into how they could send so many
@mechanwhal6590
@mechanwhal6590 4 жыл бұрын
Soviet citizens: Where are the probes? Soviet government: *Gone, reduced to atoms.*
@cygnus1129
@cygnus1129 7 жыл бұрын
They learned alot about heat and electronics when they built the blackbirds. Parts of the airplane got to Venus-like temperatures and they had to overcome this if they wanted them to survive for hours on end. I know its an airplane but if they can find some of those old engineers and learn from them they might have a good facet of information to put into the design.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
The SR-71s are amazing aircraft, and the engineering that went into them is pretty mind bending. A lot of those engineers did continue working on spacecraft and various missions.
@1locust1
@1locust1 5 жыл бұрын
Damn those lens caps!
@interpretingscripture8068
@interpretingscripture8068 6 жыл бұрын
HOT video! :) Love space exploration :) I would think after a couple of lens cap problems they might fix the problem or get a new lens cap designer lol
@Pendoza84
@Pendoza84 7 жыл бұрын
Crazy to see we almost made no progress in 30/40 years.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's too bad we stopped exploring the surface of Venus.
@J117-t2g
@J117-t2g 6 жыл бұрын
We sure need more funding!
@bobbarker7733
@bobbarker7733 5 жыл бұрын
Almost NO progress? We have put several probes and rovers on Mars, including The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, the LRO, the Huygens probe that went to Saturn and landed on Titan, the New Horizons probe that took nine years travel to and photograph Pluto and it moons, put the Hubble Telescope in orbit, built the ISS and made a great many discoveries about our galaxy and our celestial neighbors and you say NO PROGRESS? Only a mental pygmy would make such a comment! Please STFU.
@chucknorris3833
@chucknorris3833 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbarker7733 they were talking about Venus
@ChrisClark31415
@ChrisClark31415 7 жыл бұрын
With the thick atmosphere, a good robot for Venus could be some sort of small propeller aircraft that could drop off while the lander is descending. It could fly around in slightly less hellish environments at higher elevations.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, or fly up to cool down and then go down lower to investigate more.
@brendansully12
@brendansully12 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@Jesper83
@Jesper83 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is the best.
@mattizzle81
@mattizzle81 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Venus gets no love but has so much warmth to give.
@robertbennett9949
@robertbennett9949 4 жыл бұрын
They were Soviets and not Russians. Designing lens caps which would survive 90 atmospheres pressure and 800 degrees F temperature and yet be removable was a real challenge.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 жыл бұрын
You can see that the lens caps were a really tricky part of the whole mission. I'm sure it'll plague future missions too.
@hawaiidispenser
@hawaiidispenser 7 жыл бұрын
love this channel!!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and I love that you love it. Tell your friends. :-)
@frankdantuono2594
@frankdantuono2594 7 жыл бұрын
More excited about the possibility of cloud cities in the Venusian atmosphere.
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty cool idea. :-)
@rvl480van5
@rvl480van5 6 жыл бұрын
Would give my right arm to see the surface of Venus, Mercury, to see inside the atmosphere of any of the gas giants such as Jupiter and Saturn, explore the oceans of the moons of either Saturn or Jupiter. The list goes on. I read that some Russian private contractor's were developing a device that could allow space craft to travel at least 1/4 the speed of light which would make it easier to travel to exoplanets that were reasonably close to our solar system and allow us to explore them in the future. Yes, I'm very excited about the potential of future space exploration.
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
Any methods of traveling faster would be awesome to see, but even with the constraints we have now, we can still explore huge chunks of the Solar System. We just need to make it a higher priority.
@rvl480van5
@rvl480van5 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. Faster Than Light travel needs to become a much higher priority!
@ThePeterDislikeShow
@ThePeterDislikeShow 6 жыл бұрын
How hard was it on Galileo and Cassini to fly by Venus? Especially given they were designed for the other temperature extreme.
@Emdee5632
@Emdee5632 5 жыл бұрын
A flyby is just a flyby, they didn't go inside the Venusian atmosphere. They just stole a little bit of its momentum , to gain extra speed for themselves. Well I guess it's a bit hotter being closer the sun, that's all.
@IlicSorrentino
@IlicSorrentino 7 жыл бұрын
Flying city on Venus! and Rovers on land!
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
We're one step closer to those cloud cities we all deserve.
@truckcaptainstumpy1978
@truckcaptainstumpy1978 7 жыл бұрын
here is a question to answer for the crowds then: why would airships be a bad idea on Venus? We can call the first one Hindenburg Jr. !
@ollielewis8590
@ollielewis8590 6 жыл бұрын
I still think the upper atmosphere of Venus is the most promising place in the solar system. Sunshine, ~0°C and suitable air pressure? Sounds perfect!
@frasercain
@frasercain 6 жыл бұрын
I think floating around on a balloon, looking down at haze would get pretty boring after a while. Nice for a vacation, but I wouldn't want to stay there.
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to the Soviet ‘recordings’ of the sounds outside the landers is eerie to listen to. I think about what would be entailed in putting a person on the surface. Unfortunately we didn’t have the technology in construction materials to make something that’ll withstand the atmosphere and pressure. Poor astronaut would be crushed like a can and his remains burned beyond recognition I think
@DerBingle1
@DerBingle1 5 жыл бұрын
You would think that the Soviet Union would have someone better at lens caps then the guy who brought them the cement bicycle.
@samuelec
@samuelec 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Is there any plan for future missions on Venus? Is it possible to change that so hostile environment in a reasonable way? maybe bacteria?
@frasercain
@frasercain 7 жыл бұрын
Here's a video we did on terraforming Venus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pF7OmGN9l7aee80
@samuelec
@samuelec 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I watched that episode but obscuring the sun, floating cities, dropping thousand asteroids doesn't sound to me a viable way of terraforming. It doesn't even have an "how"
@joe4324
@joe4324 7 жыл бұрын
We need to be working towards, a floating city on Venus, it has a high likelyhood of being able to be the largest, most cost effective, fastest to self-sufficiency and most comfortable (for human habitation) off world colony we could be developing. I would love a in depth, look at the the numbers on making this happen.
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