University Challenge - Lady Margaret Hall Oxford v Downing College Cambrige (Series 49 Episode 14)

[@ozza4496]

Shout out to Roger Tilling for not giving up on Chaudhuri-Vayalambrone.

[@nitramluap]

Well, given they are automatic announcements from a recording, he only had to get it right once.

[@wimschmitz9388]

@@nitramluap I don't think they're prerecorded. There's a documentary out there, where they explain how he discusses pronounciacion with the participants

[@lucyclarke6115]

@@nitramluap They're done live!

[@davidgrealy]

@@nitramluap They get higher pitched as the contest goes along, so I doubt they're pre-recorded.

[@ananya_upadhya]

@@lucyclarke6115 hi! Congrats on your performance in UC this year, I think you were great 🎉

[@b00i00d]

I've binge-watched several seasons of UC in the last few days - that's what a Corona outbreak does to you! (bless the uploaders)

[@blueshiftuk]

Zheng was absolutely gutted when Pratt-Jarvis beat him to the ancient Chinese capitals question. Then proceeded to get it wrong...

[@peterpetigrew2869]

Racist

[@JogvanJespersenPGA]

@@peterpetigrew2869 her answers very so poor that they could be considered racist.

[@haendel8a]

@kiloscott of course he knew! every 4year old in China could tell you that. It is considered common knowledge

[@andrewy3279]

Everyone who is missing a crucial bit of context: Pratt-Jarvis's answer is absolutely shocking. Shanghai is China's most modern city, growing as a European trading part in the 19th century. It's literally the least ancient thing you can think of

[@EmpressTouch]

@@andrewy3279 The chemistry (or lack-of) between the two was all too present. I would like to think that they will be one of the four wild cards - if only so they can both redeem themselves - but as they only caught up late in the game, I fear that they are the unlucky one of the three 145 losing scorers...

[@Ramboost007]

10:05 I love the frustration of the Chinese guy when his teammate fucks up a Chinese history question.

[@castelodeossos3947]

And typical Chinese good manners in that he doesn't roll his eyes or slap her but just pretends he's got an itchy scalp.

[@Chindo21]

Pratt-jarvis buzzes many times and gets it wrong most of the times.

[@BettyWoo]

Thank you, Josh!

[@cat_or_pillar]

I don't blame British players for not getting the bonus about the Hemingses, but it hurt a little to see Lobo floundering in the vicinity of the answer. It really is in Hamilton, but not where she was looking.

[@RealDukeOfEarl]

Ooh, cliff hanger endings, we like them. Thanks Josh. Tidy upload, comfy times.

[@EmpressTouch]

That's three First Round propers to finish with only one score between them. The tough opening round questions sure have levelled things up, so credit to those still in the competition at all. It's going to be an exciting - AND BRUTAL Second Round...

[@lmonk9517]

respect for both teams. I thought the questions this round were rather tricky

[@gabm98]

Cheers Josh - big up LMH from Europe

[@Sargent.Pierce]

The great capitals of ancient China, according to the show, are Xian (actually Chang'an), Beijing, Luoyang, and Nanjing, but I don't think it can be limited to those four. Kaifeng (rejected by Paxman) was the capital of the Northern Song, and Hangzhou was the capital of the southern Song. Beijing was a capital of the Jin Dynasty and the Khitans and the Jurchens, but the Chinese didn't consider either of those groups to be Chinese. It wasn't the capital of China until the Yuan Dynasty in 1271. My answer would have been Chang'an, Luoyang, and Kaifeng. What is ancient? Beijing became the Capital in the Middle Ages.

[@HakingMC]

To be fair, Beijing had been a capital of a Chinese state (I think Yan?) quite early on. Also, the Four great ancient capitals of China is well defined as Beijing, Nanjing, Xi'an and Luoyang You can't really argue with that. It's not just ancient capitals of a Chinese Han state.

[@Sargent.Pierce]

@@HakingMC Beijing was the southern capital of the Khitan people, but it was primarily above the established Dynasties of Han, Tang, and Song. Just because Wikipedia says that those are the four great capitals, doesn't make it so.

[@HakingMC]

@@Sargent.Pierce Seriously, there's genuinely something called 中國四大古都。I didn't even know the wiki says so. Though I must confess the term lacks meaning and simply is a term. Here's something more. There's a 六大古都 and 七大古都。If I remember correctly, one if them is determined by dynastic capitals.

[@Sargent.Pierce]

@@HakingMC I have been reading the 7 part history of Imperial China by the Harvard University Press. Just based on my reading, it doesn't seem like UC has the right answer. This might be a traditional listing, but I question its accuracy based on my reading of the Harvard Press series.

[@maryelizabeth1216]

JP's horror at their answers of Godfather and Ratatouille will never not be hilarious

[@CasperLCat]

AND his assertion that the The Third Man’s movie theme is “one of the most famous”ever ? I do know Graham Greene here in the US, but even in the UK that opinion must sound bombastic !

[@castelodeossos3947]

It's not horror but feigned horror. Surprised no one has taken offence and called him rude and pompous.

[@castelodeossos3947]

@@CasperLCat Considering that (as Mr Paxman explains) it's perhaps the first use of a 'leitmotif' in film, it is not perhaps such a bombastic assertion.

[@CasperLCat]

@@castelodeossos3947 I’ll take your word for it. It’s just that here in the US, at least, almost no one knows the theme from that film. Compared to those from Casablanca or The Godfather or Star Wars or Raiders of the Lost Ark or even the shark motif from Jaws, it’s not even worth mentioning.

[@castelodeossos3947]

@@CasperLCat Agree that it was pretty odd to suggest 'The Godfather', which is, of course, far more famous than 'The Third Man'. Cannot myself recognise the theme music from 'Casablanca' (even though I've seen it 3 times). 'Star Wars' and 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' were, however, so forgettable that I also forgot the theme music, whereas 'Jaws' was not.

[@willemvanoranje1533]

Ahh, Jeremy should've said "and on that bombshell..." at the end.

[@EmpressTouch]

But if YOU were to fire Paxman, who would you replace him with?!?

[@willemvanoranje1533]

@@EmpressTouch Stephen Fry would be quite good I think.

[@castelodeossos3947]

@@willemvanoranje1533 He's also white, also a man, and also getting on in years, so he's a complete no-no. He is gay, though, which would be a tremendous advantage.

[@geeflat]

Thank you, Josh

[@TrueNovemberXXXVI]

Another great one and so close.

[@bellerophonchallen8861]

I thought that said Lady Margaret Hall Oxford vs Downing Street, but then realised how unlikely that would be.........😃

[@castelodeossos3947]

Ha ha, Hitchcock's 'Rear Window' suggested for Ennio Morricone's haunting theme for 'Once Upon a Time in the West' (16:32). Sometimes the guesses are pretty wild.

[@Murtini2023]

Copa Libertadores questions. This is why we tune in. Shamefully I didn't get San Lorenzo.

[@EmpressTouch]

This thrilling fixture will probably be best remembered by University Challenge followers as a requirement for a 3-into-2 wild-card playoff tiebreaker that BOTH Jesus college, Oxford AND Downing college, Cambridge shouldn't be in for very soft refereeing decisions by Paxman in September: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLRlqyPa6qbhac [16:03 - answer 'They MIGHT Be Giants', but Stevens says: "MUST"] AND again yesterday evening: [26:17 - "AS ARMS" not needed to be said by captain Jackson] But a delightful moment in First Round proper fixture 14 came when Pratt-Jarvis interrupts a starter about the Far East which clearly pissed off Zhang. The chemistry and body language thereafter was all too clear to see...

[@josephkarl2061]

That last bird painting had me wracking my brain trying to think of the artist. I knew it, but I just couldn't get the name to surface. When I heard the answer, I let out the most aggrieved sigh I have ever made. I blame it on long days at work and not enough sleep...

[@JamesJoyceJazz]

love this comment

[@BanalayerPete1972]

I knew it because of the Deep Purple album cover!

[@kayess2634]

Thank you so much!

[@chatham43]

....aw......what a cliffhanger........as they reached that score with seconds to go it doesn't look good for Downing...

[@marty9011]

Thank you Josh.

[@brandonrobson2000]

Baffled how they were oblivious to the most obvious Western sounding music in film.

[@Sandra27HK]

Tiebreaks decided on the number of questions answered so Cambridge man Paxo speeds up toward the end when Cambridge is behind! 🤔🙄🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@Jimdixon1953]

I thought it was a bit unfair of Paxman to get so exasperated when they didn’t know the theme from the Third Man. It’s not that famous and younger people today are probably less likely to have watched it.

[@castelodeossos3947]

He's not exasperated but teasing. And no small number of young teams know such things, since 'The Third Man' is one of the truly famous classics.

[@vtrico10]

My G Bovey killing it still RG6 reppin

[@mortemerb8839]

Great match this week!

[@DavidsonLoops]

Damn this season is fire!

[@Aman1nFull]

I got Bolivia right. I"m not saying that was an easy question, but Pratt-Jarvis was lazy thinking that it was Argentina. It is common knowledge that the capital of Argentina, Buenos Aires, is a massive if not mega-city and the largest city of Argentina.

[@lc-ii9ii]

How did you get on with all the other questions?

[@conallharkin5365]

bizarrely I got 9 questions right in the first 9 minutes (Spanish round was a gift) and only two right in the entire rest of the show

[@playermartin286]

“The godfather” Holy. Fucking. Shit.

[@helenchua3408]

Pratt-Jarvis gave some really bizarre answers... Sibelius??

[@pogeman2345]

you can even see Paxman's reaction of disbelief from some of them

[@BanalayerPete1972]

"Sibelius" is the name of a digital music-recording/editing programme. It wasn't a bizarre answer. Inverted misogyny stinks.

[@antiolrachmor]

Having both Marx and Capital as answers in such close proximity seems a little unfair, and probably threw Jackson off at 9:52. In fairness though, it is a very famous quote and they should have known it anyway!

[@guojingandbirdy]

The third man! And I am in Vienna!

[@dadt8009]

7:26 That's not a picture! It's some Spanish words.

[@siyabongamchunu4342]

I suspect it will be Jesus and Durham...if I understood Jeremy correctly.

[@IAmLi0N]

thanks you

[@aliceharuna4]

MATCH STATS BELOW Lady Margaret Hall - Oxford: 150 Downing - Cambridge: 145 Starter Questions Stats LADY MARGARET HALL - OXFORD: 80 Le Croissette = 1/5 {10 points} Lobo = 1/1 {10 points} Brown = 4/6 {40 points} Janjuah = 2/2 {20 points} Starter Success rate: 57.14% DOWNING - CAMBRIDGE: 75 Zheng = 2/3 {20 points} Pratt-Jarvis = 1/7 {10 minus 5 points} Jackson = 3/5 {30 points} Chaudhuri-Vayalambrone = 2/2 {20 points} Starter Success rate: 47.06% Bonus Questions Stats LADY MARGARET HALL - OXFORD: 70 Bonus success rate: 58.33% (14/24) DOWNING - CAMBRIDGE: 70 Bonus success rate: 63.64% (14/22)

[@CallieMasters5000]

That's annoying when the team members confer but then let the captain answer. The team member who knows it should answer. These subjects were dry af anyways.

[@EmpressTouch]

If two were to answer at the same time - who would be given authority? That, and professional fouls (which thankfully haven't really happened - yet).

[@Cheeseatingjunglista]

"Men were admitted from 1979..." and now they only have a token woman on the team . I'm male and I find that pretty shitty

[@castelodeossos3947]

Just knew someone would point that out. So predictable nowadays.

[@BanalayerPete1972]

@@castelodeossos3947: Yes, but you reactionaries are a hundred times MORE predictable - at least. More boring, too.

[@elizabethbower2168]

Paxman consistently gave LMH More time to confer

[@alphamikeomega5728]

19:59

[@mwhite1005]

Attica! Attica! Attica!

[@izzymurrell8723]

i'm going to shit myself, someone from Ipswich!!!!!! let's fucking go

[@oliverwood7190]

Josh Your coooooooooooooooooool

[@DennisGr]

oh my god they didnt recognize ennio morricones most famous work.

[@castelodeossos3947]

Very sorry, even though I really like that one, dare say the theme from 'The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly' is more famous, and that film also more famous.

[@BanalayerPete1972]

@DennisGr: Not everyone is a film nerd.

[@hectorramage1308]

"meretricious offerings"

[@Typosflair]

that music round was awful

[@anttihelin6820]

If you can't recognize the Jurassic Park score instantly, I don't know how to help you.

[@Sandra27HK]

Loved it!

[@castelodeossos3947]

@@anttihelin6820 Don't wanna be helped, thank you. One of many blockbusters that was an utter bore.

[@shorifulhaque5137]

10:04 r/watchpeopledieinside prime candidate

[@meirionowen5979]

Goodo! Some decent clunge this week.

[@paddy657]

Surprised to see no whinging about Jackson stooping the game to such smut as Playboy. Then again, he's not American. Cheers Josh!

[@aquapony]

I wonder what kind of bubble you are fortunate enough to live in if you consider Playboy to be smut

[@Sandra27HK]

Playboy is NOT art! Blasphemy! Just porn, plain and simple. Ancient Masters were showing their skill at depicting human form, Hefner showing his skill that money can buy anything, zero art or artistry involved! 😁

[@aquapony]

@@Sandra27HK So they didn't call you up for a shoot then?

[@mujkocka]

Too bad Zheng didn’t know the Chinese ancient capitsls

[@jojojorisjhjosef]

lol 16:22

[@sammysouth8372]

P-j is racked with tics and nerves.

[@bluepool210]

26:54 didn't LMH give the right answer? Coleridge?...

[@joshhardon6498]

Good spot!

[@gbmpoetry]

Answer was Coleridge-Taylor: Paxman wouldn't accept half an answer!

[@bluepool210]

@@gbmpoetry fair enough i guess! was expecting him to clarify why he didn't accept it.

[@joshhardon6498]

@@gbmpoetry Isn't is Samuel Taylor Coleridge? Bit harsh from Paxman IMO

[@gbmpoetry]

@@joshhardon6498 definitely a bit harsh, but Paxman will do what he will!

[@Sargent.Pierce]

Why is football included in these questions?

[@nwahnerevar9398]

Why shouldn't it be?

[@Sargent.Pierce]

@@nwahnerevar9398 Football is a waste of time. It has no value and no usefulness for society. This is a test of knowledge including usually math, science, classical music, and literature. Some geography and politics is also included. Why sports? Why pop culture? They are soon forgotten with good reason.

[@Chindo21]

@@Sargent.Pierce no they are asking question the majority of the people know. 1 question about football doesn't make the difference. These are not a bunch of nerds. Some of them watch football too. So why shouldn't they put a sport question in it.

[@nwahnerevar9398]

@@Sargent.Pierce "Football is the most important of the less important things in the world." Carlo Ancelotti. This is a completely pretentious and meaningless statement. In what way does football not have any value or usefulness for society? Playing it is a way to keep yourself physically fit, and the emotional effect of watching the game can be monumental, with the elation that comes from a last minute or against the odds win, or the heart wrenching pain of losing at the last second or getting relegated etc is tough to beat. Sure, players are paid too much and the organisations that govern the sport are corrupt and rotten to the core, but the actual sport? The world would be a much worse place without it.

[@Sargent.Pierce]

@@nwahnerevar9398 It's stupid.