University of Idaho Students Murdered: An in-depth look at the first few days of the investigation

On Nov. 13, 2022, officers with the Moscow, Idaho Police Department were called to a home on King Road for a welfare check. Once on the scene, officers found the victims, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen, and Ethan Chapin, were found dead inside the residence. All four were students at the University of Idaho.
KREM 2 News reporters were on the scene within hours of police finding the four students and have spent the past few days in Moscow covering developments.
This KREM 2+ special, 'University of Idaho Students Murdered: An in-depth look at the first few days of the investigation' features some of our reports in the week following the students' deaths.
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[@Egh0127]

My uncle was recently murdered a few days before these kids and if that wouldn’t have happened in our family I probably would’ve scrolled right past this thinking “wow another crime that’s sad” but now I see it in a whole different light. I’m so sorry to the family members of these kids. It is so heart breaking having someone u love viscously taken off the earth. Looking down into the grave before the casket goes in is such a surreal feeling and so so so heartbreaking. Condolences to everyone involved. :( Edit: wow you guys are so amazing and loving thank you so much😭😭I didn’t realize so many people replied to this I love you all💗I’ve come to realize how much this world is void of love we all really need to just love each other. I feel like the world is just getting so much worse and we need to combat that with more love, as cheesy as that sounds. ❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@nicci2534]

I'm so sorry for your loss, you have a good heart, thinking of others in your time of greif❤ my thoughts are with you & your family

[@Sunflowerfields0697]

I’m sorry for your loss

[@priscillaspets]

i’m so sorry for you loss. I wish you have your family nothing but healing and love

[@dpro5500]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 for you on the loss of your uncle and 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻for these four young people and their families✌️❤️🙌🏻

[@manolozinatra6949]

Liarrrrrrrrr

[@SPIRITMONA]

My brother was murdered when he was 26. He was a very talented musician. My heart and my prayers go out to the family and friends of each of these beautiful souls. May they RIP.

[@headkandywhore]

I am so sorry this happened to your brother, you and your family! Sending you hugs and kisses and hope that you got justice for his senseless death ❤❤❤

[@Akito_gachaglobe]

I’m so sorry for your loss😢❤

[@michelleshaw1211]

Thank you KREM 2 for putting this story together in such a sensitive thoughtful way. I appreciate all the work you are putting in on this very frustrating case. I know you are trying so hard to get answers and are being stonewalled. I am grateful for what you have found out for us. Thank you most of all for the beautiful stories on these precious kids and their Families. Everyone, please, keep safe. My most sincere condolences to the Families. I weep with you.💔💔💔💔 A Colorado Mountain Grandma, USA 💜

[@jaysaini955]

That’s sweet for you to say :(

[@doubleseven1078]

If there is not a ton of blood OUTSIDE the house that the killer would have left in his leaving then the killer either had time IN the house to clean up, which would leave DNA all over in the house (strongly indicating the killer knew the kids in the house) AND "defensive wounds" usually means the killers DNA. EITHER WAY, there is NO way the cops don't know who did this.

[@blue-calla]

That was a very sweet comment. 💞

[@blue-calla]

@@doubleseven1078defensive wounds means injuries received by the victim of an attack while trying to defend against the assailant. For example, the victim grabbing at the knife’s blade and getting cuts on their palms. It doesn’t usually mean they got the assailant’s DNA. However, the coroner said at least one of them fought for their life, which hopefully means they were able to get the m*rderer’s DNA under their nails or injured the m*rderer to the point where DNA was left behind. That said, if the m*rderer’s DNA and prints are not on record and is not a POI, any DNA/prints found at the scene is useless until the m*rderer is caught for something else, has a relative who submitted their DNA for heritage purposes, or becomes a POI.

[@Boadicea6]

@@doubleseven1078 You still have to have his DNA in Codis and if it's a young offender, probably someone they or 1 if them knew. This feels very personal, they were not raped or beat up, but stabbed to death, none the less, coz they were sleeping. One thing I do know, the killer us watching and following this and if he reads this, know he's a coward and a murderer of not just the 4 ppl he stabbed, but their families and friends too, some for a lifetime!

[@CarolStJohn-ev9ry]

I have 2 granddaughters who are in college, this really hits home. I'm so sorry for the families and friends of these bright young students.

[@animula6908]

Just remember the fact this is all over the national news also tells you what an aberration it is. Doesn’t make it any less horrifying, but thank God it’s not the normal way for nights out in college to end.

[@nicoledells8817]

This makes no sense. How do 4 people get brutally murdered and the other 2 room mates don’t hear anything? And they waited hours before calling the police?

[@johnnyzippo7109]

As alumni and former graduate of LSU during the 2002-3 serial killer event , this brings back feelings and memories from deep in the vault , keep your head on a gimbal and maintain self control and situational awareness at all times both day and night , until this or these perps are caught , be vigilant assume nothing .

[@LadyPenguin09]

Been following this from the UK. Such a tragic loss of four young people with what seemed to be a good life ahead of them. Absolutely heartbreaking for the families and community involved. I hope the families get justice.

[@truthhurts2879]

Fellow Brit here, sunny Manchester🙄, its utterly heartbreaking isn't it, and not the only case involving similar circumstances as I've noticed with America, one crime occurs and a rash of similar ones follow , like that on another university campus of 3 handsome young black men, promising professional football athletes that have also been brutally murdered by a fourth young man believed to be in retaliation for an embarrassing hazing event gone wrong. Tyrn another "family of five", 2 adults, 3 minors found in a home believed to be a murder suicide, and just days before that another family of four found dead in the home. Its very odd in America which I follow closely far more than my own country of Britain, how particularly heinous crimes that happen are immediately followed by a spate of several similar crimes.

[@amyfordyce8110]

I’m following from California. I have a family member just recently graduated and this is just really getting me. Horrifying, can’t believe this happened in Idaho let alone anywhere:(

[@thekat4493]

@@truthhurts2879 I wanted to argue against your comment in a knee-jerk reaction, but after reading it several times, I can't. It's true. But I will say, we are a very sick society. And I mean that as "western society". The US is just a very large example of that. Social media has made people insane!! Or is it just people were always this insane and we just never realized it because we were much more isolated prior to everyone having cell phones and being able to feel a false sense of "connection"? I don't know. It's so sad. I wouldn't trade my 47 year old body for the experience the youth of today have to endure for anything. I think it's so difficult to be young nowadays.

[@donnacrimmins789]

@@truthhurts2879 Yea, we are crazy here in America.

[@personalcheeses8073]

@@thekat4493 There are plenty of horror stories like this since time immemorial. It’s no modern phenomenon. Serial killers and psychos have roaming around all your lifetime. You were no safer growing up than these 4 students. You were lucky to make it through school that’s a hell of a dangerous place to be.

[@13elad49]

I can't imagine what these parents are going through. They were so young and bright.

[@johnwickline4777]

My brother was murdered in late August and he was stabbed over 35 times 17 to his head and neck. He survived enough to make the 911 call and gave the name who did it. We had to make the decision to remove the ventilator. I know what the families ate going through. It's going to be a long road and frustrating of not knowing why? We still don't know why he was murdered and probably will not. This is what makes me not sleep at night. My prayers for those families.

[@lorsli]

I'm really sorry for your loss. 💜🙏🏼

[@Wiseguy429]

So sorry for your loss

[@aselyne5631]

So was it someone you knew

[@chyennele1101]

But you know who kill him.

[@meowinde]

your brother must have been one "BAMF" to make the 911 call and tell them who did it. That is so terrifying. I am so sorry for your loss. I recently lost a little brother to suicide. loss is a complicated journey and i hope things get easier for you.

[@samanthaemm3854]

The older man that was talking that said he wishes it was a bad dream absolutely broke my heart... I can literally feel his emotions In the words he's saying and talking and it's so sad :'(

[@mbr0916]

I felt his pain as well. Truly heartbreaking. 💔

[@hossamgebeily]

My best friend passed when we were just 18. He fell from the third floor of an underground parking lot. It was an accident, head first. The hardest moment of my life was seeing him being put underground to rest. It hit me so hard. I’ll never forget it. I’m 35 now, and I think of him often, wondering why him? RIP to him and the victims. So sad.

[@thedreamer4222]

Nobody deserves to die young, rip to all of em

[@mrsx7944]

Thats horrible.

[@amm90210]

❤

[@lindachauvin951]

A former Spokanite, following from Virginia. Your reporting is absolutely top notch. Thank you to all involved in this story.

[@ryanblanchard2508]

Yet she couldn’t even get the pronunciation of the names correct. 🤦‍♂️

[@slinkbradshaw8674]

@@ryanblanchard2508 people always gotta complain, I swear

[@teddyjam8134]

It's always spooky to see people alive and well right before their lives are snatched away. Just a sad situation.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

Especially when it happens in your own home state.

[@mikemeza1975]

Just like a car or motorcycle wreck. You can,t believe they are gone.

[@jennygangspeaks]

Very‼️

[@bellakatherman1477]

@@k1m238 yes it absolutely is!!! I fear for the future

[@stevenrobert8567]

The next mass shooting is around the corner, any day now. That is the new America, sadly. The laws protect the red flag people, and not the community. The rights of the one who is flagged as dangerous, out weights the rights of the many. Much more death and mass death to come every week until a true leader emerges to call this out and call for change and demonstrations.

[@pcpc1617]

It’s hard to believe that the monster or monsters responsible for such heinous crime is still out there and to think they may never be caught is scary. So sorry for the loss of these four beautiful lives 😢

[@rozalina531]

🙏🏻💔

[@mikemcreynolds6236]

Very possible that he was present for the memorial

[@RealReelsRightHere]

Bro relax . It’s been a month . They will b caught this is way too high profile and modern

[@johnoneal6264]

It's only a matter of time before they catch him and her ,and I wonder how long have they stayed there ,this was a jealousy murder I feel it in my gut ,

[@AnnieRuler216]

Award winning silence…Sad If E head was bashed with golf club, did bk walk down stairs so quietly then back up??? All this in 8 minutes? What was used to bash ‘K face was beaten un recognizable’….That took another weapon? Was the two male dna’s inside bl.ood?

[@ahavens2463]

I still don't understand even this much later how police could say there was no threat to community. Are you kidding me? 4 students were brutally murdered..I'd have had my kid get the hell out if there asap.

[@waynejohnson1786]

Damn that sucks one of the victims was a triplet, losing a twin sibling must be one of the hardest things imaginable..

[@icedcelery9548]

They said that the police said that some of the victims have/had defensive wounds, then said it was likely all of the victims were asleep. WHAT? Which is it, it can't be both.

[@suic1d6]

updates say kaylee got woken up and xana was awake

[@calpolyca]

Outstanding reporting on such a sad story, KREM2. Top-notch. You have better reporting than most major cities.

[@SJSUPhilosopher-c1d]

Thanks for a good compilation of stories on this especially tragic and especially mysterious case. Kudos!

[@chericoffman6321]

My heart hurts for all involved. It’s horrific. As a parent it just hurts to see other families suffer such a senseless tragedy.

[@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz]

You don’t have to be a parent to feel the pain 🙄 stop saying “as a parent”

[@EsotericOccultist]

You should learn how to not attach yourself to every news story. There's around 8 billion people on this planet. Someone is being murdered somewhere every second of the day. You can't feel bad for all of them so it's not worth it to get upset unless you have a personal connection.

[@tansywelsh1636]

Too much of that in the world today. Detachment. Not enough love and helping others. The world is so full of hate. I know what you are saying but there is so many people that care about these kids. It could be our kids, just going to college. They did everything right and still died.

[@Ohsnap444]

I love this highlighting the victims and what made them so special 💖 this is absolutely horrible, tragic, bad dream for these families that will never wake up from..

[@Special_Kay]

@@thechiefwildhorse4651 Did you know them personally? I suppose if you got such information you definitely must right? Let's just say hypothetically that its true & you're right. What part & position did you play to know that info? Runner, middle man, competitors? Or Maybe needed a lil sum sum & someone you know, knew them. & helped ya get what you needed? Very curious about why you would say that. I'd like to believe you aren't absolutely ignorant & saying this & that & whatever.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

@@Special_Kay Yup I'm all of those lol So you must do fentanyl since you agree with these drug dealing kids? -COMANCHE NATION

[@Redkey7]

I can’t imagine how the roommates feel that were in that same apartment

[@vimzibaiegh]

Super lucky

[@zeldafitzgerald3530]

Survivors guilt

[@gladysover5368]

Four kids who were just starting their lives. What a colossal tragedy. 💔💔💔💔

[@davidb2206]

Idaho needs to CARRY OUT the death penalty. I have NO sympathy -- ZERO -- for the sociopaths who do this heartless, merciless injury to our society.

[@angeldaniel7360]

I don’t understand why the other roommate never hear them screaming????

[@urmyfuture1945]

What is worse I don't understand it two years later.

[@B_Rh_Neg]

Following from New Brunswick Canada, I lost my aunt (1997) , my good friend Sabrina (2010) and another friend Jamie (2021) at the hands of monsters , I understand this indescribable pain too well. My prayers and thoughts are with everyone mourning these 4 kids 😞. The one thing I will say to anyone reading this that’s hurting have patience and lots of it , thankfully the monsters that took away 3 ppl in my life were caught and are behind bars but it took a long time to achieve that , so pls remember patience, if you need help dealing with this seek help immediately pls , and I’ll be praying that whoever is responsible for this horrific crime is caught and brought to Justice one way or another..

[@KM-zn3lx]

Even if justice isn't served on Earth it will in the Heavenly realm!

[@steve5976]

That’s a lot of different people u know killed by monsters ,,,I would stay clear of anyone in your area

[@B_Rh_Neg]

@@steve5976 I don’t approach the world as I use too when I lost my aunt at the age of 15 , I’m always aware of my surroundings. My aunt was a victim of a stalker/psychopath, Sabrina domestic violence and her case was one of the worse any medical examiner experienced in his 30+ years , Jamie simply he chose to trust the wrong people and paid for it with his life , sadly his charred body was found less than 10mins away from my damn house on a atv trail I use almost daily ! I can put their full names and fee free to google the cases , they have Jamie Leard’s murderers in jail but haven’t gone to trial yet 🤬 , my aunt Norma MacRae(Moncton) and Sabrina Patterson(Moncton).

[@reinadelaluz1573]

I’m sorry you went through that hope you found healing 😢 these crimes are so terrible 😞

[@toulussarusa6199]

So sorry for your loss for you and your family, I hope and pray this dangerous serial killer sexual predator is caught. He was probably hovering over the students in the university maybe a teacher or someone with lots of Parent figure influence... and gain their trust...so sad and incomprehensible , I hope his found and put away for good.

[@cbj-mv1ss]

Such excellent coverage by their local media. Hope they solve this case asap. Prayers to the families. Beautiful kids

[@mikemeza1975]

Seems like everyone is in danger...there is a serial maniac on the loose. He must be really strong to kill a man and 3 women. I would check the jocks to see who was there.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

@@mikemeza1975 it could've been a woman, that or maybe a woman and a man, etc.

[@mikemeza1975]

@@trinitylivingston1286 yes. This could be true. Many women are very strong.

[@jimmythe-gent]

@@mikemeza1975 huh? How were they killed? Shot, or what?

[@mikemeza1975]

@@jimmythe-gent stabbed to death.

[@TheAndrao]

This was a really good overview of the case. My heart breaks for the victims, their families and all those who loved them. I’m hopeful that the evidence will find the monster of committing this horrific crime. These kids need and deserve justice! We just need to be patient! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@elliekimberlin5155]

So the police left the community vulnerable for 3 days lying to them saying they weren’t at risk!!!!!!!! Wow

[@mamapoch1915]

This is absolutely as tragic and heartbreaking as it gets. I just can't fathom what these four went through and what their loved ones are going through. I truly, with every fiber of my being, hope they find this monster or monsters soon!

[@rullmourn1142]

And the Delphi murders.

[@fcameron8172]

and ya know what’s very strange? The Indian State Police who investigated the Delphi murders also in the VERY beginning said “there is no active threat to the community” even though someone had just horrifically murdered 2 innocent little girl and not only had not been caught but also had not been identified. Now these LE agencies are doing the same crap! How is there no threat to the communities safety if there is a murderer in the loose? 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@pmccoy8924]

@@fcameron8172 This one is a head shaker. Two roommates were home. Neither woke up? One can only imagine it was the highest of high pitched screams because at least one had stab wounds of the hand which is defensive positioning and nobody batted an eye (the roommates) ? Even if the unimaginable happened a murder suicide, someone else would have heard in the home who was not deceased. We know that didn't happen because they don't have the weapon. When they called hours later at noon to reports of someone unresponsive? The scene described as gruesome but called for someone unresponsive? No threat but have no weapon that was used? One would think even if they have a suspect of interest even one that they know that did it they should be telling everyone to be vigilant regardless because they are not in custody. Can a small college police department handle something like this properly? Feel sick for those mothers and fathers.

[@heleneocleary5888]

The latest news was that the roommates thought one person was in a very deep sleep or unconscious. They tried to waken them and couldn’t??? Comments on the news were. The whole area was swimming with blood so how could the other students not see that. They must have been advised to say nothing.

[@somebodysmom3747]

This is horrible, just cant stop thinking about it. I have kids the same age. 😥😥😥 My own life doesnt feel the same this last week.... can not even imagine how difficult this is for their families. I cant. 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤ Take time to love your people today and every day you can because you just never know when............

[@mistyoglesby2577]

Luckily something like this happening is extremely rare when you think of kids just like them who don’t lock their doors, and have people coming in and out.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

@@mistyoglesby2577 it happened where people I know attended college. There was a few days where I was sick my stomach with worry until they released the victims names. I didn't know them personally but know people who did.

[@citrine65]

Small Town police need help in something like this. Not just the FBI but experienced investigators. Moscow police should have called in help on day one. Too much time is passing.

[@matimoi]

Agree

[@11071874]

100% Agree

[@Btn1136]

Crime of passion or not, this killer knew exactly he was doing to slaughter so efficiently. Chilling.

[@cherylb2008]

Had skill to be so efficient and get away.

[@lorihoop3831]

4 people gone like that and only one person goning them? More than one person involved?

[@davidb2206]

Or they were simply drunk or drugged, in well-insulated rooms, and the killer slit their throat first. Haven't you ever watched the old WWII movies in which the German guard is jumped with a knife quietly? It is possible.

[@survivealiveofficial4056]

not just efficient but quietly enough to not alert the other people that were also in the house

[@davidb2206]

@@survivealiveofficial4056 They were on different floors and used to unusual (party) noises at all hours.

[@rochelleesser7961]

This video was well done and respectful of these young lives and their friends and families. Anyone who has any information, no matter how insignificant it may seem, should bring it to the authorities investigating this horrific crime. Sending love and positive vibes for the friends and families of these young people who were taken from them so senselessly 😔

[@manumadrid777]

It is similar to Ted Bundy, perhaps somebody is imittating him.

[@bethanywhite877]

Oh man. Triplets! This will be so hard on his siblings. You always hear stories about Twins and Triplets strong connection to one another. My daughter and son are the same age as these kids. I watch this and think of them. I have great empathy for these parents. The grief they will suffer will be awful. I lost a friend to suicide. Friends 32 years. In therapy I was told suicide is the most complicated grief then follows murder. It has been 5 years for me. Lots of therapy and support groups. I pray they reach out for help. Support groups really do help so much. In groups everyone has suffered the same grief and that helps with understanding one another. God bless the families and friends.

[@reneedennis2011]

I am so sorry 😞.

[@nicholemartinez3969]

The community is definitely grieving. Ethan had a bright future and was adored by many. It was devastating to read the superintendent's email that one of our young alumni had passed. It was even more heartbreaking to learn how he passed. My thoughts and prayers are with Ethan's & the other victims' families & loved ones. I am truly sorry for your loss.

[@liabw05]

I'm a triplet. I can't imagine 😢

[@soula912]

Been following this from Australia. I just feel sadness for the victims and their families. This is so horrific, scary and devastating. I really hope the person/persons that did this are caught n brought to justice. What evil people are out there. I believe it’s someone they knew or a stalker. Sending prayers to the victims and their families. Praying for justice 🙏 May they Rest In Peace 🕊🕊🕊🕊

[@davidb2206]

The odds of being caught are pretty good with our professional law enforcement, forensics, cameras, and now the FBI involved. Odds of justice are nearly zero, because Idaho does not carry out the death penalty, which this Walking Evil murderer richly deserves. I have no sympathy --ZERO -- for the sociopaths who inflict these crimes on our society. I would support torturing them before their execution, if it were possible. Enough of this assault on the rest of us.

[@inappropriate_comments]

Me too, where do you live ? Maybe we're neighbors 🤷‍♂️

[@soula912]

@inappropriate_comments Sorry for late reply. I’m in Melbourne

[@tammyfrancis7856]

Wow, for the neighbours to mourn Ethan like he’s one of three grandchildren, those kids must be great people! I’m so sorry for everybody’s loss! Anyone who knew any of these four young people, who never got to experience life after school, but they were so close. They did all the work for it, and for him to cut them down at this point in their lives is extra cruel! If Bryan did this, I actually hope he gets the death penalty. I don’t usually want that, except for particularly rotten murderers.

[@atlanticblue2665]

Idaho 4, Human Trafficking Tattoos 🍎 the surviving room mates Bethany Funke and Dylan Mortesen had tattoos made on their arms with the initials of the Idaho 4 inside the wings of an angel.. just days after the Idaho 4 murders/kidnappings.. and showed them on social media. They are Human trafficking ☀️ Tattoos: as tattoos with initials are Used by gangs/cults to indicate that a victim is the property of the person with the tattoo. (The angel wings tattoo could mean that the trafficking victim's initials in the tattoo disobeyed the rules of the society/gang/cult...)

[@LoveLorena]

8:02 We can't say there isn't a threat to the public, if they still do not even have a suspect. Please be safe everyone. Sending love and prayers.

[@joywebster2678]

And letting students go home without knowing where they were or who they are loses witnesses and potential suspects.

[@paulastevens9413]

I agree with you so much....there were 6 people in that house. So, safety in numbers isn't the answer either. These evil people had to have a way to murder these people and maintain control of the situation at the same time. Not one of these young people would have stayed silent and still while their friends were being slaughtered. How can they say that the rest of the community is safe?

[@priscillaspets]

@@joywebster2678 a kid went missing at my college, took them 2 months to find him. they also said no threat to the public. let me say if they didn’t let us leave for those two months because all couple thousand+ of us were “suspects” id be pretty upset

[@joywebster2678]

@@priscillaspets well use that giant brain to read what I wrote. They let the students go WITHOUT getting info from them like location that night, or relevant info about who they hang with. They could have filled out a questionnaire with the university since they had to arrange with professors to leave anyway. No one suggested holding them all.

[@priscillaspets]

@@joywebster2678 U really think the one involved or with information wouldn’t lie..? 😂✋🏻

[@rhondaillar3906]

Dear heavenly father we pray for this senseless situation. We pray for the families, friends, and community. We ask that you intervene and help the police solve this evil horrific case. They were 4 beautiful young adults who did not deserve this no matter the reason. My thoughts and prayers are with the families.

[@jamesbowman6925]

It's funny how this heavenly father that you pray to never intervenes before something like this happens. Maybe because he doesn't exist?

[@Proverbs--tx6yr]

@@jamesbowman6925 free will was His gift, don’t blame Him, look to man turning their back on His ways and feeding into and following the things of this world..Im guessing you have no idea what Im talking about, and there lies the problem. Evil is running this domain and most are following his ways because they’re clueless of God’s ways…

[@NAVY-e8e]

@@Proverbs--tx6yr the bible does not mention free will.

[@mainsocial1105]

Amen

[@valenwood6299]

@@Proverbs--tx6yr you are very lost. Damn poor lil lost lamb .

[@ssherwoodsc]

This story is beyond heartbreaking. @KREM you are doing an amazing job of communicating with the public while respecting the victims and their families. All media outlets should follow your lead!

[@diankreczmer6595]

Twenty two years ago I lost my 35 year old son in a jeep accident.i still am not over it. It is truly an amputation. But to have the body mutilated and stabbed is unbearable. What someone does to your child, no matter how old, they do to you. Rip, dear ones!

[@brianlee2646]

I have lived in Idaho my entire life and can’t remember anything like this happening here. I feel for the parents. It’s so heartbreaking

[@trinitylivingston1286]

It has happened here more then you think.

[@hardver8855]

Ywah. That makes it like really mysterious. Cuz no tourist flow, no cartels, no street gangs, good old and cold Idaho, how can this happen here. Also a case from Idaho which baffles me is the female ranger/camp cook who went missing in the mountains alone, no trace of her, no struggle at her camp, her dog missing but returned after 1 week, with not lost weight. And she was experienced 3 decades spent in same mountains.

[@brianlee2646]

@@hardver8855 I remember that. Crazy things have happened here, like the Claud Dallas ranger murders, but it’s rare. The population growth will definitely change that

[@t-ellie794]

​@@hardver8855yes..I know about that case. I read about it in the missing 411 books I purchased. There are actually quite a few cases similar to hers at other national parks. Those kind of cases with no closure sit in my mind all the time. Like the Delphi murders, thankfully their monster has been finally caught.. but those cases with no reasoning, no evidence etc and a complete mystery are so crazy. If you don't know about the missing 411 canam project with David paulides is very interesting and creepy. He has found so many cases that are similar and baffling that have occurred in national parks.

[@hardver8855]

@@t-ellie794 i know about 411 phenomenon, and David Paulides. I do beleive something weird is happening. Especially with that lady ranger. For example, or in Idaho the vanishing of that young tv producer, who was filming there and suddenly he ran down rocky hill and disappeared into the woods never to be seen again. But me personally i dont beleive in aliens or ufos or sasquatch. I beleive its all caused by some "normal" circumstances, juwt we dont know yet exactly what happened.

[@mbr0916]

The fact that blood was dripping from the first floor out onto the *exterior* side of the house shows how absolutely brutal and horrific these murders were. My heart aches for their loved ones. This should have never happened. Who called about the “unconscious person”…? How did the other 2 residents not notice all the blood? So many questions.

[@goudakismet7424]

Pretty sure the other 2 were sleeping in. It was on a weekend they were college students. Not that unusual. But it would be interesting to know who the caller was. I heard another LE commentator say it is not unusual to use "unconscious" to describe a victim.

[@carmenmorici531]

I wonder to didnt they scream as they we're being stabbed. Didn't the 2 girls hear the screams And if it was more then one person.why didn't they stab the other two girls. Another question the 2 girls that were alive called there friends to come over when they found the first victim and then they call the cops. It looks like a wooden house you could hear a pin drop. I hope they do a thorough investigation some of the stuff doesn't add up but maybe the girls were in shock. If i would of found the first victim I would have ran out of the house not knowing if the killer was still in the house and then called the cops.

[@Diyer2023]

Maybe they found 1 person in bed couldn’t see that they were stabbed and deceased unfortunately? Said they were unconscious ? I don’t know so confusing. Edit: also I sleep with ear plugs in because I’m a light sleeper and when I put in my ear plugs I cannot hear a thing. A lot of time college students sleep with head phones in, ear plugs, music playing, passed out drunk. A lot of things are going to play a part in this case

[@terrace1]

The students that were killed were on the second and third floor not the first floor, the other two still alive were on the first floor

[@terriseay7293]

The other 2 girls were in two bedrooms in the basement. The killer probably didn't know there were bedrooms down there. The murders took place on the 2nd and 3rd floors, so the main floor was above the students, then the 2nd and 3rd floor. No wonder they didn't know what happened.

[@Not_tellingU]

Lookimg back watching how Ethans neighbor was affected too is heart wrenching

[@BecauseOfHim1111]

These deaths are baffling. I’m looking forward to the day when we learn who are the suspect(s). My condolences to the friends / families of the victims. May they RIP.

[@beverlypeace149]

My heart hurts for those murdered and their loved ones

[@crimegeek]

Well done on this video. I hope the killer is found and justice is served swiftly. RIP to those lost and prayers to the family

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

Such a white virtue signaling story lol These kids were dealing fentanyl around campus They got popped -COMANCHE NATION

[@yosoy3982]

Smell to PSYOP 💩 from the deep state. 🤥

[@jaysaini955]

I’m shocked it’s taking this long but now the FBI is involved.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

@@jaysaini955 They are working this into a tragedy story when it's no different than murders in Chicago. These kids were dealing fentanyl. Now they have to cover it up because they are white kids. Facts -COMANCHE NATION

[@jaysaini955]

@@thechiefwildhorse4651 Nah dude, I don't believe the drugs story and I live here in the palouse too bro.

[@babubassa8434]

The killer knew exactly when these students went to bed. That means the killer was in the background through the night. The detectives should have a look at the maintenance staff of the home.

[@spirit13the1st6]

OH' believe me,they were stalked right before the crime

[@mbr0916]

I’ve read from multiple sources that Kaylee had talked about having a stalker.

[@ChristelMontoya]

Incredibly sad, all the way around. These were four glowing, young students at the cusp of their lives… This is a very respectful and thoughtfully created video. RIP Ethan Chapin Xana Kernodle Kaylee Goncalves Madison Mogen

[@cupidhart-james4277]

I am still in shock. I was a student at U of I from 1987-1994. Moscow is the safest place I have ever lived. When I arrived in ‘87, there had not been a murder in over a decade. 🖤💛

[@sixpackbinky]

If they haven’t caught the murderer, then how do they know There’s no danger to other people?

[@Nonameforyoudangit]

Usually that means that law enforcement knows who did it or motive.

[@missriss_xoxo]

Life is so crazy, it’s always the people who have the kindest souls they get taken early..

[@katjay3125]

They were far from pure

[@marlenemcmillan8891]

@@katjay3125 it doesn't matter..it was a brutal death and they were young

[@karmasutra4774]

They were partiers as most students are. Unfortunately, some don’t make it through the party stage. Sad for the families

[@washcaps71]

@@katjay3125 you’re absolute trash

[@desiderata333]

@@katjay3125 no of us are pure. The comment was about kind souls. If God had your attitude, we would all be doomed.

[@Lucabearrocks]

Prayers of healing for all the families. Thank you to your news station for such a respectful and sincere reporting of this horrible crime. 💔. It's about the innocent victims & remembering what beautiful souls tragically taken too soon.

[@brianteague44]

Twin sons started school at a university in the fall so this story is definitely even more frightening for parents whose kids are away.

[@LeftInBama]

This was very personal. Not a serial killer. Ethan was a triplet.

[@brianteague44]

@@LeftInBama I agree

[@mariewoodward9713]

My heart was breaking not only for the families but for the two girls that were at that house. I can't imagine what they heard or saw after waking up and then finding out 4 of their roommates were murdered. I was born in Idaho and loved living there way back when and to think that someone brutally murdered such beautiful souls is just beyond my imagination. Rest in peace Madison, Kaylee, Xana, and Ethan. You will never be forgotten🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊✝️✝️✝️✝️

[@catherineharris27]

I feel terrible for these parents. I can't imagine what they are going through. Just horrible 😞! Just knowing the details and how horrible this was. I pray 🙏 God wraps his arms around all the families and Justice is served for all 4 victims!!

[@annetterhoads3117]

Sadly, this very much reminds me of the terrible killings that occurred at UF by the mass Murderer, Danny Rollins, in the '80's. I was not living in Gainesville, FL, then, but I was still living in Florida. UF was my Alma Mater, and I knew all the areas mentioned in the news. It 💔 broke my heart. I was so glad when they finally apprehended the killer. A few years later, my late husband and I moved to Gainesville. Strangely, our landlord had owned one of the rental homes where one of the young women victims had been slaughtered. He had found her body, and the Murderer had partially, brutally, dismembered her. He was an older man, and he'd had a heart attack, when he had found her deceased. He had been asked by the police to check on her. She had not made it to work, and everyone was concerned. The murders had already begun, but at the time, they had not yet caught the Murderer. He told us all this, because my husband had been helping him with the roof. He wanted to explain why he was continuously urging my husband to lock the front door--even though they both were right there on the roof (I was grading my students' papers in the living room). Before he left, the Landlord watched the new owner next door put up a gate and fencing. I'll never forget what he said, "Fences don't keep people out." There had even been a locked gate--and a fence on the property he had owned. Another chilling thing was that the Gainseville Murderer also entered some of the areas by the sliding glass doors. We always wondered why our house's sliding door in back had been covered by wood. I do hope they find this recent killer quickly. I had heard that students withdrew from UF at that time. They were terrified. I don't know if that is true (so many leaving). It seemed to me it also happened before a holiday, also, one young male student was killed, the rest were women. Sorry 🙏 if I upset anyone. I was struck by the tiny similarities. I will pray for the families and the students--all of them.

[@V5Bs]

Can you imagine if it wasn't him though? That means the person would still be out there

[@AJ-sr3hl]

Parents send their child to college to further their education. This is very painful to hear this heartbreaking news. My condolences to the families. I am keeping the families in my prayers.

[@decafmocha211]

Sending prayers and condolences to all the students, faculty and staff at the University of Idaho. Rest in Peace Kaylee, Xana, Madison and Ethan. Condolences to your families and friends.

[@acgillespie]

I pray that the person who did this gets the help they so desperately need. perhaps a few hugs as well to restore the compassion gene

[@terrikay4622]

@@acgillespie they will be executed.

[@yelloworangered]

When the stuff happens that makes you wake up in disbelief that the horror is your reality and that you can't dismiss as a dream. I have such profound sorrow for the families of these four students. And the two survivors, who will probably never be the same again.

[@gingersnap22]

Exactly!

[@magnoliatrue2698]

When the mayor said it shouldn’t happen in a small community, where should it happen sir? It doesn’t matter where you live or how tight your community is, violence is violence.

[@brianasselta9237]

So let me get this straight. 4 students stabbed to death. No suspects and theyre saying theres no threat to the community??? I would check any camera footage at the restaurant the girls worked at to see if there were any regulars that suddenly stopped being a regular since this happened. Also there were 4 of them. One perpetraitor armed with a gun or multiple perpetrators. I dont know. I get that people are grieving but I hope the police and detectives get on this and nail whoever did this. Its dispicable.

[@Blastopia]

I'm sure they are. I'm sure the killer is watching every one of these updates and they dont want to reveal anything

[@citizendame6329]

When they say that they believe there is no threat to the community it means they believe the crime was targeted, meaning an ex bf or someone with a personal grudge. Those type of killers don't go killing random innocents. This one was really angry at someone.

[@armandoangel6481]

The girl in the black jacket seemed serious, upset, and/or doomed while at the food truck. The other friend in a grey hoodie on her phone smiling while she's standing there with a serious look on her face. Was she upset with her friend who was smiling in front of her while texting someone? Did she know something or feel possibly endangered but didn't wanna come out to her friend because she was talking to the suspect or because her being all upbeat would make her assume she'd not exercise her concern? Did the roommates find a weapon and do something with it in hopes of making it less traumatic on the family's? Could the attacker be one of the four victims who took their own life? All this could be why the name of caller wasn't shared and there isn't a suspect.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

Brian They were fentanyl dealers. They got robbed by other pushers. Stop trying to save dead chicks white knight -COMANCHE NATION

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

@@citizendame6329 These kids were dealing fentanyl. Stop white knighting on KZbin -COMANCHE NATION

[@The.Android]

How on earth can the authorities say there's no threat to the public when there's a killer or killers of 4 people on the loose.

[@redrumhum]

We have no suspects, But there is no threat to the public? WTH?

[@mountainman4859]

My grandson and I spent 10 days visiting family in Moscow this last August. The most pleasant, laid back, safe town you could ever want to visit. So sad for everyone.

[@conniead5206]

I am irritated that the reporter said she has been pressing for more information and calling the police a lot. They will have a press conference. That is a given in a multiple murder case. Harassing the investigators isn’t going to help them investigate. Among the things they are likely waiting on is DNA evidence. Hoping the 🤬 left some of their own blood. Then pursuing all CCTV video from throughout the immediate area and major roads the person or persons may have fled down. Takes time.

[@davezedman]

Who would have called and said 'unconscious'?? Unconscious is so much different than dead and blood every where ... Just not adding up

[@mickeyoshea2035]

Exactly

[@katielouise6074]

This^^ it’s so confusing how did the roommates not find the bodies ???

[@Luvtallhorses]

Yeah, why did they not say something right after it happened? Why were they not stabbed?

[@user-ajcuhqb]

So confused by this, was someone else unconscious somewhere? Maybe one of the roommates passed out after seeing the scene.

[@tylerhulsey982]

Perhaps they were in disbelief-hopeful disbelief.

[@pamcollins1651]

This is brilliant coverage by KREM2 news!! The horrific stabbing of four young people with their lives ahead of them! So so sad😢

[@chericarreon7553]

Prayers for the families of these young college students. May they find the peace and comfort they so will need in the days and weeks ahead.

[@henrysantos121]

This is absolutely terrible, Rest in paradise all 4 victims souls,

[@R.I.P.]

I can't even fathom what these kids went through ...and now what their families are going through . I'm not going to even speculate about what may or may not of happened out of respect .. My heart goes out to everyone involve in this horrible tragedy .

[@cald1421]

“Unconscious person.” That’s such a bizarre 911 call. Only thing I can think is someone expected to meet one of the kids in the morning and became suspicious they were asleep or unwell and called the police? If anyone had seen the crime scene they would’ve no doubt seen blood and stab wounds and “unconscious” is not the term for that situation.

[@flowerchild89]

Right! I wonder who made this call? They would have known it was a homicide.

[@chrislim7615]

How can there b so little evidences?!

[@AudrieSiegel-yj8mh]

M y first Step-Father was a murderer. It was sarry. He targeted his family. I wrote letters evertome he came ip for parole. He died in custody!

[@nanettealegado6190]

Following from Australia. This is just a very tragic loss. I feel so sorry and hurt for the family of these victims. The father of Ethan, you can really sense how hurt he is. It’s so sad. Time will heal all Hurt soon, for now we grieve and pray that the monster/S who did this senseless killing will face justice. 😣😌

[@justelleslife507]

For once the news is focused on the victims and the impact to their families, I haven't watched this to the end but on one video it said that there was 5 hours missing with Ethan and his girlfriend Xana, they were asleep when they were attacked, so they were the targets, if this person was there to rob, etc. there'd be no need to kill any witnesses since they were all asleep and then the other two roommates went untouched. I hope this gets solved.

[@mbr0916]

What do you mean 5 hours missing? Can you clarify. I’ve read from multiple sources Kaylee had a stalker.

[@K-OnTheCase]

@@mbr0916I went to school at WSU… which was very close to the border between Washington & Idaho. At that time, the drinking age was 18 in Idaho, so we would often take the short drive across the State line to Moscow to bar hop on the weekends. So I’m very familiar with this area Regarding your question; I believe the implication was that Ethan and Xana were last seen leaving the fraternity party around 9 pm. The girls arrived home after being seen on video at the food truck, ETA to the house was around 1:40 am. The (roughly 5 hours) is the timeframe between when they each had all last been seen alive by witnesses. A burglary seems pretty bold considering there were so many people inside the home? I’m wondering if the girls were the intended target, and were followed home? A knife attack is up close & personal. Did the killer intend to use it to threaten, and then someone witnessed him there & things escalated? How was the killer able to incapacitate 4 people without one of them not making some kind of noise? Especially since we now know that several had defensive wounds… At least 2 of them put some kind of struggle, and yet no noise?

[@marysmith861]

Six people were under the influence of alcoholand possibly drugs too. Pretty hard to fight back if your not expecting something and also under the influence. I'd like to know what the toxicology report says.

[@katrinac4438]

@@mbr0916 they mention it around 28:00 .... watch the video. 🤷‍♀️

[@jessrouse8475]

Nope a stranger . 2 other killing in the Pacifc NW also on the 13th of the month in the same way. I think America home of the serial killers may have another wandering around ....yet again.

[@jodil7]

Why aren’t they talking about the roommates?!?

[@springhillgolfer878]

Reminds me of the University of Florida/Gainesville student murders in 1990. Took them awhile to catch the killer. A lot of students skipped that semester and went home.

[@Chuck44442]

.. didn't they focus real hard on the wrong guy at first ??

[@captainmeowzers]

I want to know what happened so badly. RIP to the victims.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

Me too.

[@EmeraldDuchess]

Praying for all of the grieving families and loved ones of these young ones! It would seem to me that if they were ‘passed out’ instead of sleeping, it would give the wrong person(s) opportunity to take advantage. What an unspeakable tragedy.

[@Mega13green]

So sad, I pray for these four students' families healing 🕊️ 🙏🏼

[@cmg197]

So horrifying and horrific. I feel so bad for the victims to die in such a horrible, horrific way. I can't imagine how much fear and pain they felt before their deaths. Such beautiful young ladies and young man. It is very sad and scary. Idk how some can be so evil. Everyone always watch your backs! My upmost condolences to the family

[@carolinecantelmo49]

Try living in New York City 3to 4 people weekly murdered .Not to mention Rape Robbery Stabbings Gun shots all on a daily basis .

[@cmg197]

@@carolinecantelmo49 I know that's for sure. That's unfortunate as well. Got to be a bit scary too. I am in Florida we too have quite a lot of crime here too. Seems daily. I feel bad for any victim of a brutal crime and crime period. Be safe out there

[@cmg197]

@@sA-ny2jl Man that's awful and sad about the family. That's terrible and it didn't make the news? I just don't understand how some people are just so evil. That's horrible poor people and suffering baby.

[@carolinecantelmo49]

Yes Cindy crime is all over so sad . But please stay safe .

[@cmg197]

@@carolinecantelmo49 thank you, you too

[@GaryDoyle-fd3cf]

Things might of been so different if that witness just checked on them after seeing and hearing what she heard 😢 could've saved a life but calling 911 so late is just very ODD

[@nacona5114]

This is so heart-wrenching. Praying for the families to be comforted as best as can be. The kids were beautiful and had their entire future ahead of them and to be taken out like this is so disturbing. I hope they get the murderer soon and that person is punished to the full extent of the law. Rest in peace precious ones.

[@danrodrigues3531]

They have to find who did this. This is just so unbelievable.

[@richardlacey4923]

Shouldn’t be too much longer.. 40 top FBI personnel and a host of others on the case..

[@ITALIA_94]

So sorry for the families who will have to spend the upcoming holidays grieving instead of celebrating. We live in such a sick world. It's just not fair to these kids who had their whole lives ahead of them. Praying they catch whoever did this & praying for those impacted.

[@florencetatro7922]

It's just very sad and tragic. You just never know people's intentions. If you have a feeling of someone acting weird even if someone close...tell someone like your parents so others can keep an account of what's going on. Especially if it's a stalker....don't ever let them in.

[@bernadetteaustin8577]

My heart breaks for these young ones, their families and the communities. So tragic, they had such bright futures to look forward to. I've been following this from Australia and it is just so sad. I Pray they find answers and get justice for them. God Bless xo

[@whatheck6797]

Seeing Ethan parents sad especially his mother crying, got me balling 😭

[@pippilongstocking-qs7fm]

Same

[@fearandloathing75]

The nation mourns with the families of these four beautiful young people. We wish peace be with each of them.

[@lisamcbride8921]

Did BK ever frequent the Mad Greek restaurant? Just wondering! This is all so strange! Lots of answers needed indeed!

[@martinhinkins2027]

I’m from a neighboring state. And want families and friends as well as the town of Moscow. My heart, thoughts and prayers are with you all. RIP Xana , Ethan , Madison , Kaylee you will never be forgotten. I don’t any of you but my heart is hurting for you all. And want you to know everyone around the country are with you, and Law Enforcement. I pray every night for you all. And pray that law enforcement knows we are all hear you as well. And God Bless you ALL.

[@susankrol8254]

Somethings giving me a neighbor vibe. I don’t know why. Maybe someone didn’t like young college students partying and being loud. They let the dog live. Believe it or not that is a clue. Chantel Bruno is my cousin who was murdered in New Bedford Massachusetts. She was stabbed 49 times by 2 men. They hated her so much that they even stabbed her a little dog Lolita. Her last dying breath was, save my puppy. The police ran upstairs to the third-floor and found Lolita and rushed her to the nearest St. Luke’s Hospital. Lolita survived the attack. My niece died right there at the scene. It took years for our family to get justice. Because of Covid things were put off and one defendant even had a hung jury. We couldn’t believe it. This is extremely sad. But the way they let the dog live., that’s very telling.

[@citrine65]

This seems like the work of an older, experienced killer not a young student. Unless they have killed before. Small Town, someone must have seen a stranger lurking around.

[@paulabuck5976]

My thoughts too

[@_RayOfLight_]

This is so tragic . My deepest condolences to the all families, who lost loved ones.

[@TruthSeekerNC]

Great job with the reporting. Praying for the families of these beautiful young individuals. May they Rest in Peace. 🙏❤

[@GingerNinja1]

How can police say there's no threat to the general public when they don't even know who did it?! They have zero details still!

[@LeslieJeniece17]

My heart breaks for these beautiful young people. I’m a mother to 2 children, I can’t imagine the loss. I’m so sorry. May they Rest In Peace. 🥺😢😭❤

[@lisamcbride8921]

Losing one of your triplets! That is rough especially for the two other siblings!