Jeff has absolutely no reason to play the victim. He KNEW BEFORE they got married that she had sexual contact with his brother. It’s not fair of him to keep throwing it at her face for 11 years, claiming he got trust issues because of it and using it as an excuse to treat her like crap. It looks to me like he wanted his cake and eat it too. He wanted to be seen as the nice, big hearted guy who forgave his fiancé/wife for what she did but at the same time use the thing, he supposably forgave her, as an excuse to be on dating apps, flirting with other women and treating his wife like crap. He is definitely not a victim, he is a cunning guy who uses every situation to his advantage/benefit.
@tennillewilkinson151811 ай бұрын
If she cheated with YOUR BROTHER before you got married Then why'd you marry her and have kids to bring it up over and over again or just to cheat
@merryjane718611 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@PLEASURE_MeMe2 ай бұрын
True but why would she even marry him if she cheated with his own brother? Make it make sense!🤷♀️
@LuvelyT2 ай бұрын
@@PLEASURE_MeMeThe same reason she cheated with the brother, she’s sick in the head!
@merryjane718611 ай бұрын
He doesn’t have an excuse if she cheated before they got married then he made the decision to marry her anyway… he’s using that old thing as a excuse to cheat!
@Sleepy-23111 ай бұрын
Exactly💯
@shanterriajefferson102211 ай бұрын
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who heard that. When the lady in the audience backed him up I was like, “ma’am you weren’t listening”. But then Karamo said she had a point. I was thinking “you’re the therapist. It’s your job to listen….hmmm maybe my ears deceived me. 🤔”
@kelleyarrington23611 ай бұрын
I believe he stated they already had kids by then & stayed because of them. But she’s a whiner & a manipulator who uses her tears, screaming voice & kids against him . She shows absolutely no remorse for slurping off his brother or for being lazy where as he has to come home from working full time to cook & clean plus tend to the kids!!!
@Sleepy-23111 ай бұрын
@@kelleyarrington236 she said they weren’t married at the time, and yet she told him she cheated. It’s one thing staying together, but marriage, that’s whole other level. It’s stupid to get married with insecurities. He chose to make that mistake
@Sabrewood1310 ай бұрын
@@kelleyarrington236slurping off his brother when they were both young and long before they married is way different than cheating in a marriage, he’s scum who could have just left long before they got married stop trying to make it seem as if this was recent and relevant to their marriage the moment he married her he forfeited that right to complain about it
@Tripl3Darkness9 ай бұрын
The first lady left her kids at home, got blackout drunk and she blames the man and nobody says anything
@cosmicwzrd5 ай бұрын
Right! Sometimes I hate how he sometimes tries to make one person and victim and not realize they equally suck
@kourtnaeholmes478711 ай бұрын
The fact that it wasn’t acknowledged that she just blamed this man for her actions that caused her to be charged with child endangerment is wild🤦🏽♀️ that ain’t nobody fault but hers
@ernaemaile50411 ай бұрын
THIS what I came to say !!!
@DHenny11 ай бұрын
!!!!!!! Right !!!
@malibug988911 ай бұрын
I came to the comment section to say that!!!
@Sabrewood1310 ай бұрын
Yeah that she right got in trouble for, she should have made sure them kids were good
@bossladiee8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!
@lize575511 ай бұрын
She offered the trip ... she's petty
@Jocelyne73411 ай бұрын
She needs the money to travel to her next destination. She wouldn't have been my close friend after this or after i paid her half of the money.
@Maiden_to_mother11 ай бұрын
The Second Lady is insufferable. It’s not her friends fault that she willingly spent money on him when she couldn’t afford it. Especially since she didn’t clarify AT ALL that she expected to be paid back in full. She’s petty and shady
@thale694511 ай бұрын
If he wants to leave let him leave. Why force someone to stay that doesn't want to?
@t.smithjr.91711 ай бұрын
Insecurity. Some people are insecure to the point that they believe that settling for the bare minimum is better then being alone with themselves, hopefully they both heal
@thale694511 ай бұрын
@@t.smithjr.917 I agree
@coleyboot111 ай бұрын
Alot of people are scared of change instead of falling in love people fall into habit
@Misunderstoodillustration11 ай бұрын
No one can force no grown ass man to stay in a relationship he doesn’t want to be in. Period u clearly ain’t watch cause he said he wanted to stay
@thale694511 ай бұрын
@@Misunderstoodillustration I'm not sure if you're upset but I did watch it and I heard what everyone said. Thanks
@tennillewilkinson151811 ай бұрын
That friendship is NOT gonna be the same if he pays or not
@TatianaLee.11 ай бұрын
Tbh I wouldn’t look at my friend the same and me spoiling her would stop, she doesn’t value the friendship as much as he did, I would pay her but now I see her character 🤷🏽♀️
@lize575511 ай бұрын
Exactly.. we pay for our own selfs after that
@groundzero20883 ай бұрын
Exactly...when I offer to lay for shit for my friends and vice versa we use it to joke later as a "remember when I did _ for you" and we laugh about it, no one has to pay back because we OFFERED. It's the principle fr.
@dorisgordon4020Ай бұрын
The friend and the money owed , if he was nt working why would she expecting him to pay it back?? I don’t think I would want that friendship back !
@l_ric11 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that didn’t like how the last one ended? Why didn’t you validate the fact that he didn’t want to pay her back? And why was $100 so important to her and not the friendship??? Why would you take him out KNOWING he was broke. Smh I would’ve had to let shorty go. Baby if you can’t get over $100 for me than I guess we not meant to be friends. He should’ve stuck to how he felt ON EVERYTHING. She is not a good friend. She will do it again. He had already gave you some money at that, man hell na. If money that important to you baby have a nice life lol
@lize575511 ай бұрын
Exactly !!!
@basicallyv98739 ай бұрын
Right
@LyricallyM3311 ай бұрын
Karamo need to get straight up LIE DETECTOR TEST!!!..all that “unlock the phone” shit just don’t be enough…just because it’s not in the phone don’t mean it can’t be sneaky things happening 💯some people so sneaky they’ll have a second secret phone the spouse don’t even know about lol neither do Karamo 😂so then they get away with murder 😫🥴
@angelaburse648511 ай бұрын
I said the same thing
@makiahnoel567110 ай бұрын
It's been proven that lie detector test aren't fully accurate. People can have emotional reactions to questions even though their not guilty. Someone from the steve wilkos show actually killed themselves bc a lie detector test said that they killed their child even though they didn't.
@lavoniaholloway12459 ай бұрын
I think he’s def a liar because one thing that struck me was why did he put so much emphasis on saying “there’s nothing on that phone that can PROVE I’ve cheated”? Why not just say “I didn’t cheat, so you’re not gonna find anything”. It sounds like he manipulates results to make sure anything he does it absolutely covered up rather than straight up lying like other people on this show
@dalealfred38778 ай бұрын
He is so tired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
@kimpeterkin19992 ай бұрын
What good is a lie detector test gonna do? They aren’t even used in court
@merryjane718611 ай бұрын
That’s why friends and money doesn’t mix!
@fatimasg111 ай бұрын
I’d give her ALL the money and never speak to her again. She’s not a real friend. He already paid her back most of it and she was still going hard for $150 more… girl bye ✌🏾
@vanessanessa71685 ай бұрын
Seriously!
@groundzero20883 ай бұрын
She's so petty and clearly materialistic
@mrslross7811 ай бұрын
I can’t believe she blamed him for leaving her little kids at home and on top of that go get filthy drunk.
@yomajesty270310 ай бұрын
Right! I wish Karamo would’ve addressed that
@TappaTop5 ай бұрын
This woman needs to take accountability for her own actions. He didn't force her to drink, leave her kids to end up in the situation she ended up in. These two should've never gotten married
@sandrarice419711 ай бұрын
When she broke the trust, he should never have married her. Don't marry her and then throw up cheating with the brother. He sounds like he doesn't help his wife with the children or the house without him complaining and him calling her names. They need to divorce. He's a cheater now!!!
@armenthiagarmon11 ай бұрын
Now I'm a grandmother who has raised lots of children! Mine as well as several thine others. There is no way any mother or other can keep everything straight in a house where there are children, whether it's one ,four, or otherwise. Because he's being a dad and doing his part as a husband gives him no right to be abusive in any way, as if he's not balding and have shortcomings.That friend is desperate and probably bored with her sex toys or is just willing to settle to get laid.
@shanterriajefferson102211 ай бұрын
🤣😆🤣 first, I love that your comment didn’t turn out to be that of “Perfect Little Suzzie Homemaker”. Second, those last two sentences!?! Bwaaahhhaaa🤣
@DodieJ11 ай бұрын
It’s his fault she abandoned her kids?? GTFOH! 😂😂😂
@nyladj451010 ай бұрын
The money situation really bugged me. I feel that the lady changed up the rules of the friendship when it was her turn to pay. She did not deny that he had her (in her words) IN THE PAST why couldn’t she do the same for him in return. This is just going to happen again. I believe him when he says she was like come on I got you bcuz how else did she express for him to go with her despite him communicating that he didn’t have anything not even spending money? 😑😑😑
@jezjez372311 ай бұрын
You crossed the lines with his brother and now you want to know if he’s cheating? Girl, bye! All bets are off. The both of them are toxic and nasty.
@ThePinkPurples11 ай бұрын
It was 16 years ago and he should have left her then . Not get married and have kids . But yes they are both toxic
@cattyreals57211 ай бұрын
@@ThePinkPurplesexactly, he knew about it but still chose to get married.
@tylerwavy83248 ай бұрын
ON MEEEE LIKE SHE THINK SHII OK 😂
@perfectlyimperfect912911 ай бұрын
0:24 Her husband Sounds A bully !! 1:31 He should have married her if he's going to hold that over her head and two wrongs do not make a right !! I think she believes she doesn't deserve any better but she's wrong !! You don't stay for the kids because all you're doing is making those kids miserable !! 7:16 There's plenty of proof that he has tried to cheat that's bad enough !! 8:35 She made a mistake. He chose to marry her and then bring four kids into this torture !! 11:04 SHAME On both of them for ruining these children's lives !! Stop being selfish and get away from each other. 17:57 He has clearly never forgiven her for what she did before. They got married and he has been Taking it out on her ever since , Breaking down herself esteem Lying cheating or at least attempting to cheat. 24:02 What about his social media ? 37:15 So she expects him to pay her back. But she doesn't want to talk about all the times that he gave her money or paid for her ?! I feel like if she forces him to pay her back. This friendship is over either way because of the way she's acting. It's credit , And I guarantee if he did pay her. She would not pay on the credit card. He offered to take him he told her I don't have the money.
@NikimaJones5 ай бұрын
Karamo tongue got twisted at 2:32 ..🤣didn't know what the heck to say bahhhhhhhh!
@deletedchannel50038 ай бұрын
I don’t think he needed to pay smh she took his free trips without paying him back now she says that’s in the past he has to pay tho????
@Redd164 ай бұрын
Exactly.. sum ain't adding up.
@awhynn827011 ай бұрын
How did she cheat with his brother and he stayyyyeeddd??!! Nah this whole thing is crazy
@beulahgreenidge62169 ай бұрын
Pay her the money back an leave her where she is 😢
@shootyoshotluv8 ай бұрын
I agree. I wouldn’t even worry about the money. Especially if I offered
@v.torres-amos99068 ай бұрын
I can’t deny the fact that she’s looking over giving his brother sloppy toppy. He married her bc of the kids you can tell! He should’ve walked AWAY
@shawnat755811 ай бұрын
Dont ever jeopardize your children's safety. No matter what!
@shenisenicole10311 ай бұрын
Honestly this relationship is so toxic , I feel for the kids . I wish karamo could offer marriage counseling if they must stay together.
@designzbyjulez983811 ай бұрын
She is passing the buck. She feels Guilty!!!
@lorraineanderson873011 ай бұрын
The lady cheated over 16 years now, even before they get together or even married. I think the man is holding this over her. So if he did'nt forgive her he should'nt marry her, plus giving her 4 kids. The man is still using her pass against her.
@1986diva8 ай бұрын
He’s not attracted to her he’s only staying because like he said he’s “almost 36,37 years old” it’s convenience for him
@gog4life1011 ай бұрын
How you going to blame him for you leaving your toddlers home alone to go out and drink 🥴
@symplelife37605 ай бұрын
I would’ve paid it quickly, just to save a friendship like that pay the money
@terenon495 ай бұрын
If I say I can’t go to Honduras because my money is tight, how would you negotiate with me to go without addressing the cost? I think She’s lying about not saying she’d hold him down
@sharonjones657911 ай бұрын
we have to stop blaming others for our actions
@shenisenicole10311 ай бұрын
Right
@Jenny-uv4dl11 ай бұрын
This WOMEN is annoying as hell she cheated on you before you got together WITH YOUR BROTHER and you still married her and knocked her up and saving this ??? Its a huge name calling cheating mess
@anthonyhale52375 ай бұрын
Her daughter has a boyfriend at 12 yrs old that explains everything about there parenting skills. !!!!
@ciarasosa718511 ай бұрын
I think she’s lying !!! She keeps saying I don’t say I got you but still didn’t tell us exactly what she did say … you know damn well she ain’t say no speech about her credit , stuttering and all while inviting him ? Naaah lol girl bye
@ktnuffsaid40417 ай бұрын
I honestly think they need to just get a divorce because just by what he was saying about her in the beginning he’s not physically or emotionally attracted to her anymore ..and time and time again folks remain in marriages for the sake of the kids which is not fair for them as parents or the kids .especially if the relationship is toxic and your involving the kids in the mess aswell
@ssunshyne94799 ай бұрын
She slow acknowledging that's its ok for her 12 year old having a boyfriend
@MoolaSmith9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@unbotheredbklyn27892 ай бұрын
Exactly. Insane.
@alanaquestelles61107 ай бұрын
I think he should pay her the money and move on from there
@taytriggs906511 ай бұрын
Don’t matter where they argue. She is a yeller. The kids will still hear it.
@hihosilverlining11 ай бұрын
Jeff and Courtney actually hate each other….but Courtney is embroiled in being a victim and screaming at him …he’s involved in being weak…and almost childish. They are a truly horrible couple who need to split up …but …this behaviour isn’t going to stop. Split up or stay together…it won’t change. She will continue screaming with that horrible facial expression and he will take it. And all the while he’ll hear ‘But I love him’….those kids are in a nightmare that will only stop when they are grown and can leave home. I’m glad I don5 live next door.
@jeromeblackmon232911 ай бұрын
Bro was playing the long game 🤣 sleep with my brother will you
@shanterriajefferson102211 ай бұрын
That’s kinda how I feel. He continued to date her and then marry her AFTER she had relations with his brother. I guess it’s because I’m not good at forgiving. Because AIN’T NO WAY. You slept with my family member!?! You did worse than smashing the homie. I would’ve been beyond pissed and done with the both of them. I don’t have the patience to wait THAT LONG to get my lick back.
@dior888138 ай бұрын
Byrd looks so sweet he seems like a nice person idgaf
@merryjane718611 ай бұрын
All the audience women have beautiful hair colors 😍
@xfercoachkris6 ай бұрын
She called him a coward but shes begging to be with him lol . Oversize ppl are always aggressive even when driving their small cars
@merryjane718611 ай бұрын
I can tell Martina is a classy lady and she wouldn’t say, “I got you!” I feel like if Byrd enjoyed the trip he should pay! Everyone is excusing the money but they aren’t in her position and it’s not their money. Why is Byrd worrying about her life after the trip.
@PresshureDavenport11 ай бұрын
He started paying which means he knows it wasn't no dang I got you
@mentalhealingwithelaine8 ай бұрын
Nah. If my friend always got my back and I invite them on a trip. I wouldn’t mind paying for them. Yall some horrible friends
@carmen.juliana11 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with an open marriage also Nothing wrong with two divorced people Co-parenting 😂
@peacelily775111 ай бұрын
He should pay her back if he calls himself a responsible man.
@aprieamour652011 ай бұрын
I’m not staying in a bad situation for no kids smh 🤦♂️
@philima9 ай бұрын
It's not for the kids if they were honest. It's laziness. Kids do not profit from a hellhouse like that. At all.
@MsDubati9 ай бұрын
My pride would never let me be that last man. Smh I’m paying ts and we’re done done. And him asking the audience if he can borrow their money( 39.59 )…. 🤨🤔
@Venita-dc8si11 ай бұрын
Love his show
@JJ-kx8gi4 ай бұрын
Wouldnt be my friend no more. Changing up deals smh
@Lakeshahahoward64658 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful friendship. I also love how his sister handled the situation.❤❤❤
@marisortiz27310 ай бұрын
Why can't she talk without screaming? Seems that couple has a few screws missing...
@MoolaSmith9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@alonamoss193011 ай бұрын
She not making sense . She said she wants to save her family but then says she will leave. If he says he is done then be done. She started the cheating and that’s what started all this.
@MoolaSmith9 ай бұрын
The poor children will see this. Y’all need to divorce immediately.
@Maiden_to_mother11 ай бұрын
15:30 it was suppose to say shitty” not shifty. Damn autocorrect 😂
@MightwonamofGod1238 ай бұрын
My ex asked me to borrow 1800 dollars when we done two weeks later he playing he forgot his death I left him a letter on his gate saying I want my money thank God I got it back
@empressnannah383011 ай бұрын
MARTINA IS NOT A REAL FRIEND SHE IS NOT BEING FAIR
@dligg41311 ай бұрын
I’m sorry , we would be friends again but everything dealing with money would be in a text , or I probably wouldn’t involve money at all
@AnnieFarmer1137 ай бұрын
These two are BOTH a mess. I feel so bad for the kids involved
@MAKINGULAUGH28 ай бұрын
She even said half - too sweet she gave it repay it.. is it really worth ppl just petty til they need $ help again!💯
@yomajesty270310 ай бұрын
She left her kids alone and blamed it on him! Y’all are insane if you think he’s the problem! SHE’S the problem.
@Realmadixo14 күн бұрын
Staying in that toxic relationship is WAY harder than starting over 😅
@beulahgreenidge62169 ай бұрын
I would not want her friendship ever a gain
@andreacamille391811 ай бұрын
😂😂 how is this no jerry Springer 😂
@MrROCKMUZK10 ай бұрын
Passing out in a bar lmao😂😂😂 she's a good mom huh??
@slay.s611 ай бұрын
Hey am a Jamaican addicted to Karamo and his show
@snatched.451311 ай бұрын
Friendship overrrr
@JadahBembury-n9y8 ай бұрын
LOVE the 2 episode. It’s different and the tea is good!
@highlander6665 ай бұрын
its "BOUGHT", he BOUGHT all those items, not "brought" m0ron🙄
@jenuine-11 ай бұрын
Jeff lookin like Jerry from Subway
@LourSims14 күн бұрын
I agree with Byrd. Their friendship wouldn’t be the same. If you have a genuine friendship where you “got each other” and now you’re being funny is just “ugly” because you shouldn’t have pressured him to come when he was telling you didn’t have it to begin with. Especially since he’s held you down plenty of times from what it sounds like when you didn’t have it to go on all these trips. Now you’re expecting this money back. If I were him, I would just “got me,myself, and I” when it come to her.
@jenjames80053 ай бұрын
She's wild for leaving her toddlers home alone just because she was "heartbroken". Girl please. She deserved to be in jail. If that's not a bad mother, what is?
@lorraineanderson873011 ай бұрын
He is emotionally abusing her , he is not trying to make the relationship work. I don't think he loves her. She did make a mistake 16 yours ago , if he goes on to marry her he should be able to forgive her. He is abusing her emotionally. He is using the pass to torment her. I think she really loves him.
@willybeama19 ай бұрын
“Can we please be friends again?” Yeah, that just came across as extremely genuine. Their friendship will survive and they will communicate better in the future. Brought a smile to my face.
@lisawalker21613 күн бұрын
Rule of thumb never lend money you need back. That way it’s a clear understanding
@dalealfred38778 ай бұрын
It was before they got married'he is soooo quilty ' that is why he is so critical
@kenya106710 ай бұрын
Cheating with his brother should have been a deal breaker. It's questionable that he'd want to be with her after that.
@reginaboone89211 ай бұрын
I love this show so much
@latoyarobinson13608 ай бұрын
My brother before we got married shiddddd I’d been done
@Shaunnniee148 күн бұрын
Lmao she needs to worry about herself fr. Forget Jeff, she should better herself
@ashwiththebash69055 ай бұрын
Karamo messy. 😂 What if that man ain’t have the money right then and there?
@groundzero20883 ай бұрын
He shouldn't have had to pay that money...she invited him out, he told her no because he KNEW he didn't have it and he told her that...and even if that phrase isn't in her vocabulary she still told him that she'd cover it. Completely unfair.
@peacelily775111 ай бұрын
Hope she has the courage to leave him. Why try to save the marriage and stay with a man who is so disrespectful? Makes no sense.
@kimpeterkin19992 ай бұрын
They are cute(besties) I’m glad they are able to move on from the miscommunication about money 🤞🏾💕
@sharonjones657911 ай бұрын
ugh lady you were with his brother and now you mad because he was with your friend, get out of here lady
@PLEASURE_MeMe2 ай бұрын
They both are wrong for putting kids in the middle of their bull 💩. He’s a liar for everything he says and she need to stop playing victim. She need to get up and start doing things in the house picking up some chores. If he’s out working there’s no excuse why the house should be messy. He’s also playing victim also and he should be ashamed of himself. But she really need to love herself more and her self esteem is bad. I really pray she finds herself and love herself more and take care of her children because she need to heel. She’s broken!
@vernacarty63819 ай бұрын
I think she has another traveling partener.what aboutwhen he paid on their trips
@gaellementor5660Ай бұрын
He doesn’t even care that she’s crying!! He’s not consoling her or anything at all! Give this man donkey of the year!!!
@julinalilly743911 ай бұрын
Today on Karamo
@coconwa11 ай бұрын
I think Karamo should be administering lie detector test because unlocking d phones are in most cases, are not giving a definite result with either of d parties.
@JustBriannaYT11 ай бұрын
Lie detector tests are pseudoscience unfortunately they do not detect lying and can be manipulated very easily.
@CrunchyGreenWater11 ай бұрын
Polygraphs are unreliable and false results can destroy lives. Karamo is here to help, not hurt and exploit. ❤
@coconwa11 ай бұрын
@@CrunchyGreenWater If that is d case, why is that police force & Steve Wilkos Show still using polygraphs?
@CrunchyGreenWater11 ай бұрын
@@coconwa Polygraphs are overwhelming considered scientifically unreliable, which is why they are almost always inadmissible as evidence in court in the U.S. because false results can cause significant harm to others (wrongly convicting innocent people but also wrongly letting guilty people go free). Steve Wilkos can use polygraphs on his show if he wants to. He can use the Magic 8 Ball or a psychic or astrology or whatever he wants, but that doesn't make those things reliable or ethical to use when serious issues and people's lives and reputations are at stake.
@JustBriannaYT11 ай бұрын
@coconwa That's a great question! They're actually not admissible in court because they're no scientific so I don't know why anyone uses them. I don't know the answer but I would encourage you to do some research on it and I'll definitely do the same.
@MAKINGULAUGH28 ай бұрын
He still made a decision to stay and if there’s no proof what do u have… but he had it. Trust gone so is relationship! I don’t advocate divorce counseling for sure💯
@reginaboone89211 ай бұрын
She cheated with his brother before they got married and he married her anyway....
@cwright469111 ай бұрын
His wife cheated on him long ago. He should have left her alone then. He's only bringing that up because he's cheating and that's how he justifies his actions. If he never forgave her then he should have moved on instead of trying to get revenge and mistreating her.
@empressnannah383011 ай бұрын
First couple the danger of neglecting the children is real.
@sumtin2nv8 ай бұрын
She just told everything on herself…thanks for the honesty but girl what are you doing here. He thinks he can have his cake…girl you been in the bakery