Unlock POKER GOLD; The Key to Knowing When to Fold

[@Oheeeoh]

Thanks for the video, Bart.

[@EllieBanks333]

So often the villain has exactly what you're afraid of. One thing I noticed on this hand was villains sizing on flop raise, it's 5X. This flop generally favors the PFR. Hero's hand is way too strong to fold on the flop, but I'm not so sure about the turn. I'm surprised hero called the river.

[@jaylo9421]

Hand reading: Texas edition. Folds to hijack. Me, inner monologue: ok so there are no deuces or sevens left in the deck

[@ahaaha8462]

I realized a while back that if I am able to make one more good fold per day at 2/5 I will save/make more 30k per year

[@hotrodsather]

By that logic, if you make one good call you will win another $30K

[@michaelg4664]

@@hotrodsather Moreover, if you don't play at all, you will break even.

[@State-uw8pu]

Love the show. I've learned a lot and I like how you talk to people even when they are playing hands poorly. #maui

[@kinggrantking]

I think it's still helpful to go back to the old saying, "every bet should be to get better to fold or worse to call", and I don't know how the $15 on the flop does either.

[@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917]

I definitely agree, but also with that said there are times when down-betting absolutely can print. Such as down-betting certain flops and subsequently over-betting on specific turns (a play which personally gets me fully erect, lol). Definitely not here though, as you already mentioned. But yea. Generally speaking, down-betting (or checking) is typically only recommended on for example, fairly disconnected rainbow boards with say, a single broadway (10-A). Effectively balancing ones C-betting (or checking) range with all of ones hands. But in this spot, with such a range advantage, on such a wet board, unblocking all of the draws, using a larger sizing is generally the most effective. Personally I am betting around 2/3-3/4 pot with nearly (if not all) of my hands. Not to mention, unless a given hero (or villain) happens to be a complete nit, villains are often going to be continuing with far worse, equity wise. Especially true if a given hero tends to be aggressive post-flop, which one should be imo.

[@jacobgoldman5780]

Do hands like J8 of spades/hearts, K9 spades, KQ/KJ of spades ever take this sort of line?

[@farisiq]

They should sometimes forsure, but not at this stake level they are not doing it, overfolding to these players is usually best when they show you this much strength

[@jeffreywu7436]

love your content!!!

[@well.thy.one.]

This is why I only plat AT of hearts

[@hymnofashes]

It's true hero bet small, but once he calls the raise and the turn on a board which should be good for his range, he doesn't look that weak. It takes a specific kind of player to just lose his mind and triple off *everything* when someone bets the flop small. One problem with these small bets is that it may induce your opponent to bluff *more* but his bluffing frequency may *still* be less than the frequency required for you to call jams like this. As an exploit I would probably fold this river unless I held a relevant blocker such as a heart or a queen, and maybe even then fold it based on live reads. The fact is, once there has been a postflop raise and a call on the triple broadway board, it's unusual for a $2/$5 villain to have enough bluffs. I do not think hero is good one in three times, because unless that villain is holding the Ah himself (which would indicate he had a top pair and did not *need* to turn his hand into a bluff) he has to be worried that he's simply igniting his stack by jamming into top pair with backdoor hearts, which is a hand hero has not infrequently when he bets the flop small and then peels a turn. This is in addition to the possibility that hero just has a hand like the one he has and will not fold. If he didn't believe you on the flop or the turn, it's unlikely he's going to believe you when you jam the river after the nuts change and give you credit for a backdoor flush or a flopped straight, which are really the only hands that would want to value jam this river. It's too few combos.

[@iamawuss]

V's line is pretty underbluffed. Since I can see his holding later on because it's a live stream I'd lean toward fold and then adjust later if he's up to craziness.

[@Frosty2211]

The river bricks almost every draw minus some backdoor fluke

[@johnmar6376]

The odds of V having QJs are very high (no 3 bet pre-flop) + him making a big bet on turn + H only has 8% equity Vs straight unless he knows the V is a maniac this was a fold on the turn.

[@pot_kivach160]

Agreed. When Opp keeps pounding on this kind of board, then AT two pairs is too weak to continue.

[@gazorpazorp9798]

Big turn bet - they are never bluffing here. Tough fold on the river but pretty sure I’m folding

[@MrTjthorso]

When vill says it's his time to move up to $2/5 but it's playing $1500 max or match the stack, I'd have to question if this is the right game lol. Or are we assuming the $1/2 he's playing in Texas also reflects that large of a game? Either way, he keeps making calls like this his BR will be busted.

[@twinklebeaver7549]

Might be stupid question. Is there merit for going for a semi bluff on the river because you’ve shown so much strength with the call on the turn? Or are you never getting a fold out of QJ? I know you don’t have the Ah but that was my thinking before the reveal

[@michaeltate7287]

I don't think QJ folds here. If you runner runner flushed me oh well.

[@sean3533]

Maybe a block sizing would save some value, doubt QJ raises here with the backdoor. I think by the River, AT is a bluff catcher, only KT, AQ maybe K10 on ice might be v betting with worse. Without enough value hands from opp I don’t think a small sizing would be called by worse enough to merit the semi bluff.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

You can’t semi-bluff on the river.

[@duece3000gt24]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj he meant bluffing with the best hand.

[@patrickjordan2233]

Bart? Can hero 3 bet/fold to 4 bet.. the flop (only 4 outs twice?)? IE change the informational inflection/crux point to "front loaded"... Something along a 2.3-2.7× 3bet? Basically, "go with it/fold decision"..? Using the concept of double reverse implied odds to decide on exploitive folds? -fun aside..😂🤣 this is (@ flop..) is where a set would add additional implied odds...not enough necessarily to call a 4bet, but it'd be better than 2 pair?

[@scottsmall1952]

Not really. When you flop a big hand but you’re not sure if you’re ahead you really shouldn’t be looking for places to fold. Your goal should be to get to showdown and your should take lines that include calling more than bet/fold. You’ve got enough showdown value that you can still win and your opponent maybe be raising a bluff. When you’re behind you’ve likely got some outs. Calling the flop is really the only good choice here

[@pot_kivach160]

he could. Although, might not be necessary, as it's clear fold on flop after being raised. R: I do not see any bluff on Flo, therefore, V must have stronger than AT. However, if H still does not believe, then go 3! bet-fold to 4! bet is also ok.

[@scottsmall1952]

@@pot_kivach160 The flop is AKTss, villain could have a flush draw, strait draw, pair+draw (aq, aj, kq, jt) I agree that once we are raised we’re not loving our hand but we have 2 pair and 4 outs to nuts. I think we’ve for which equity to continue

[@pot_kivach160]

@@scottsmall1952 Flush draw/straight draw/weak A - would not reraise this kind of flop in this hand context. (AK range belongs to the HJ). Talking about sound poker play. So: drawing hands are out of question; what's only left are the hands that are stronger than 2 pairs of AT (TT and broadway straight). Yes, A or T would improve....yet that is 2/4 outs??! However, you do not have pot odds (8% equity vs 28% risk ). Bluff is also out of question...therefore: easy fold. And never look back.

[@scottsmall1952]

@@pot_kivach160 Are you talking about folding to the initial raise on the flop or folding to a 4 bet if we 3 bet? I agree he's never bluffing when he raises over our 3 bet but if you're referring to the initial raise then I disgree that he cant be bluffing when he raises our flop bet. Pot is small and we bet 1/3 pot, we're not acting super strong and he's got position on us. AA/KK and AK can be heavily discounted bc he didnt 3 bet PF. We have a T so theres 1 combo of TT, a bunch of QJ and then a bunch of pair+draw or draw type hands he might play this way. If your folding AT on this board to a flop raise then I think you're getting pushed off your hand too often

[@ROZDAB]

Eric persson calling in?

[@stefancopicuk]

Lol. Right voice but not nearly abusive enough

[@stefancopicuk]

Sure is Eric's betting line too

[@magnetohex703]

What type of headset are you using?. They look nice hopefully they're not too expensive, let me know. Great video

[@EasyMoney747]

skull candy#

[@magnetohex703]

@@EasyMoney747 thanks for letting me know I'll take a look. May you have a wonderful weekend!

[@EasyMoney747]

@@magnetohex703 Thank you, you as well 🤙🏽

[@CrushlivePoker]

It’s not a headset. Just headphones. These ones are Fiil. I think I got them for free at the Caesars Palace gift shop actually. Any will do they just go into my audio interface. You will usually need a 1/4 to 1/8 little jack converter. The microphone is the workhouse of the industry that almost everyone uses, Shure SM7b. Doesn’t need phantom power. Dynamic microphone although often times you will need additional gain.

[@johnmar6376]

If I was planning to call all bets I would have led all in on river to hopefully get a fold from straight tho very unlikely.

[@bryanjohnson8162]

Shouldn't the backdoor flush draw coming in make a difference on your opponents shove on the river??

[@Ryan-ix2zx]

No

[@RubberDuckStyle]

Yes , Ah xh is a strong possibility

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Perhaps V assumes that a backdoor flush would donk the river (to avoid villain just checking behind) and so H never has backdoor flushes?

[@DaveFu]

Bart "Kenny Rogers" Hanson! "When you scoop the pot after you hold'em, make sure you roast em!"

[@adamweir1191]

On paper their sizing looks bluffy and I would have called down but I bet with live reads it's an easier fold.

[@tassv5909]

people never bluff at these stakes when you could have aces.

[@bookedroomer]

What is he talking about blockers for

[@krishall3187]

Clear fold on the river

[@Noelur13th]

It’s hard one but I think I would’ve tanked and folded theirs just so much that beats you… good call down though

[@RealDJStew724]

Yoooo I'm first

[@CrushlivePoker]

Grinding an overnight session?

[@RealDJStew724]

@@CrushlivePoker long session of counting sheep 😂

[@a_canal]

Before the results It’s Texas villain has all 16 combos of QJ. I would fold

[@TheTheagent07]

I’m folding turn on this one ….

[@evancassano4046]

That would be wayyyyy too tight imo

[@benlloyd9448]

I agree. I don't see someone doing this with KT on the turn, and all sets get 3bet preflop. Would be a crazy board to bluff into the preflop raiser

[@pot_kivach160]

I wouldn't even call flop.

[@chazsmith20]

Nobody bluffs like this at 2/5. Even if you find a unicorn is it WISE for them to bluff a typical 2/5 player who seems to have better than 2 pair? Now he'd have to give you credit for being able to fold a big hand and that just doesn't make sense. You're almost always behind, but don't feel bad really hard to fold 2 pair in that spot - especially without more reads on your villain.

[@ryanlisterman1864]

I see so many people spaz when someone down bets, with the bricked spades I would have snapped and just reached into my pocket for more money.

[@scottsmall1952]

You really need a specific read here. Look at the hand from his perspective. You’re the pfr and the flop nails your range, AK just flipped 2 pair and at minimum you should have an ace and a gutter. Knowing this he raises your flop bet and after a big bet gets called on the turn he goes ahead and bombs the river. What does he think you have? Is he trying to put a move on you to push you off of an ace? Doubtful, I know you bet small on the flop but it would take a true maniac to run 3 street bluff with air based on just a weak flop lead. Once we get to the river there’s just not a lot of pure bluffs left in his range. Maybe he spazzes with KT but that’s just about the only hand you beat. You gotta be good here 33% of the time to make this a profitable call and I just don’t don’t see how you are

[@Gos1234567]

@@scottsmall1952 Fishy players are alway using the excuse of "they could spazzing out" but just use logic here this is an easy fold.People put way too many bluffs into others ranges that arent there

[@MrAntup]

If he jammed instead of check call maybe the straight folds or is that wishful thinking

[@Perfectionist0219]

Dallas poker card houses are nearly impossible to win now, better off driving to Oklahoma to get some of the worst players in the country

[@ligafftheindifferent3495]

If this is not a fold, you need to change tables or your opponent is REALLY bad and has KT.

[@MaximusMerideus]

9:45 reveals to me that Bart already watched this hand with the link that was submitted by the caller. Which is fine but I wish these poker coaches would stop pretending they haven't seen the hand prior to telling you that they would fold. I'm sorry, it has always bothered me when people think they are smarter than their audience. " Was this hand on the livestream?" Yeah bro I submitted the link and we just talked about playing on the livestream. Come on Bart, of course you checked out the link before you review this hand submission, so don't play us like idiots. "Was this hand on the livestream????" I oughta..........##**^%$.. SMH

[@CrushlivePoker]

Never saw the hand, still haven’t seen it.

[@MaximusMerideus]

@@CrushlivePoker fair enough, I apologize, I'm so use to people thinking they're smarter than everyone and being disingenuous that I jump to a conclusion without enough evidence and, either way, I was wrong. My bad-

[@Dan0rioN]

I knew you should have shoved on that river... He would have tanked forever XD

[@tehblogger]

Honestly I think folding the turn isn't actually crazy. We have AA/AK/KK/TT/QJ to continue with, and even hands like AQ/AJ with no spade are better continues because they block the nuts and have outs when behind. And ofc we have hands ourselves that turn the nut flush draw. In theory villain shouldn't have QJo here but in reality we know he can, so I really do think we can fold the turn.

[@davidculhane4388]

If you fold that turn, you're a nit and exploitable. River is a definite fold with backdoor getting there, but turn is only a fold against an OMC type.

[@KyprosEc]

This was not an easy one to fold. It feels like it's likely QJ but you're never sure

[@Gos1234567]

Trivial fold,whats he bluffing with?

[@KyprosEc]

Missed flush...maybe had like kq suited and missed

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@KyprosEcdoes KQ suited raise the flop? Maybe KQss exactly.

[@Gos1234567]

@@KyprosEc cmon bro 🙄

[@KyprosEc]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj or KJ

[@Dylan-vm4gl]

Call call call he beat you whatever move on. This is live 2/5. You will beat bluffs and KT enough of the time. It’s Texas I’d call the all in

[@bookedroomer]

Post cat

[@kineahora8736]

disagree with caller on flop. i think you don’t have that much range advantage here: i think CO will have lots of aces. you should have more QJo than him but with his hi VPIP maybe not. you do have way more AA AK and KK than him. anyway-point is im NOT range betting OOP here at all, so im definitely taking a large size on my cbets in this spot. 2/3 pot-$30 So on the river, it’s yet another situation where if i don’t know a player at all, or know him to be tight, i have to fold. but when i see him high VPIP it’s tougher since those players often have bluffs. i just made a terrible hero call for 160 BB against such a player though and he had the nuts. so you have to lean toward folding unless you KNOW the player to be capable of bluffing this spot.