Josh & Sav open up about being an interracial couple & raising 2 under 2 | Ep. 34

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[@WillowSong]

Josh and Sav seem so emotionally mature, it was super cool to hear them talk about stuff!

[@celestecruickshank597]

But Sav did experience racism. For a black women to say “yOu DoNt LiKe ChOcLaTE?” Is inherently racist. Black people can be racist just as much as white people can. Heck, ANY race can be racist…

[@JaclynSeymour]

Literally came here to say this exact thing. Racism exists in all cultures.

[@michaela_xo]

yes like a race doesn't need to be oppressed or experience systemic racism for someone from that race to experience someone else being racist towards them

[@sarahloohoo2312]

Racial discrimination and racism are two different things. From a definition standpoint point, systematic oppression does add a different layer to racial discrimination. No matter what racial discrimination is wrong regardless or who the person experiencing it is. But racism has a different impact on whites people versus not white people in a culture where white people are the dominate race. The definition of racism isn’t simply racial discrimination, there are other elements to the true definition of racism - one is not necessarily worse than the other.

[@sangel8079]

@@sarahloohoo2312so tired of this rhetoric. Essentially black people are too powerless to hurt others. Give us a break. Wrong is wrong.

[@sarahloohoo2312]

@@sangel8079 You said that not me. Wrong is wrong - but racism is still different from racial discrimination. Most things people label as “racist” these days actually aren’t at all, it’s just discrimination. It’s one of the most misused words and it’s turning actual racism into “boy who cried wolf” shit and it’s created a culture fed up of even hearing the word. Educate yourself on the terms you use and you would start to see the issues too.

[@brookstevick3051]

It's so sad...I'm in an interracial relationship, we should be celebrating these times, we are literally living "the dream", yet racism is still such a real thing 😔

[@kalijanis8288]

Same here and, honestly so true

[@bkessinger94]

I agree. My husband is native american and we get looks. My first husband was african american. I had family who wouldnt come to our wedding. Its wild

[@ItsNicoleAnderson]

@@bkessinger94that would be my family 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@MicheleWalkerWebb]

To all above. I'm very sorry this things are happening to you. I'm a light skinned Mexican woman. Both my husbands were white. Unfortunately, in my circle of life I had no idea this was happening. I'm sending good vibes to everyone. Peace 🕊️✌️❤

[@Oilofmercy]

​@@bkessinger94 that's honestly crazy

[@aspenalyselong]

In 2012, my senior year of high school, I got kicked out of my house for dating a black guy. He was a better person than I was. I proudly lived with a friend until we broke up for different reasons. Only sharing because I’m in Arkansas and yall mentioned the state. There’s always good people in bad areas, but my heart goes out to those having the same experiences that I did.

[@aprilove-xoxo]

I grew up the exact same way!! My family was soooo against interracial relationships! Until I popped out 4 babies, lol my family did get over it. But it’s very real, and very sad!

[@bkessinger94]

Im also in Arkansas. My first husband was african american. I had family who wouldn't come to my wedding to him.

[@morganadvantures]

Josh and Sav have such good vibes- I love their dynamic and the realness they bring!

[@dominiquedeslauriers1351]

LOVE this episode. All of the hard work you all are putting into this podcast SHOWS. The fact you’ve been able to maintain such consistency and quality having such a young baby is very impressive. Amazed by the both of you! 💛

[@user-cs9kr2wl6n]

Agreed!!❤

[@UnplannedPodcast]

That’s so kind of you to say! Thank you!

[@weenieboy_]

Um it’s called a babysitter… nanny… family….

[@dominiquedeslauriers1351]

@@weenieboy_ I’m a parent. I have family and a babysitter. Guess what? It’s still hard work!! Never mind two under two, one being a newborn. That’s a lot, even with help.

[@tryphenayeboah_]

JOSH & SAV ARE THE BEST!!! Thanks for having them on your podcast! I absolutely enjoyed listening to this conversation & hearing the differences & similarities in your worlds. So insightful & refreshing! 💗

[@ashleeciballos4396]

I HAD to comment. This episode was SO good. Im in an interracial marriage & wow this hit home. Im loving the conversational podcasts!!

[@lizbethslens9639]

FYI - the process of placenta encapsulation looses most of the nutrients that it claims to have - rule of thumb if your body is getting rid of it probably means it doesn’t need it anymore (: or else your body would absorb it!

[@chloecagle6493]

Yep. None of these “benefits” are proven

[@BickyToya]

Yes! Because it also filters out the bad stuff..you don't want to ingest that

[@artwithanna413]

I encapsulated mine and the first time I took it I felt like I was on mushrooms. It was awful, I don’t know what the heck happened to this day

[@crookedlines]

However, like most things, the placebo effect can have massive benefits on PPD & PPA (graduating as a psychiatric nurse practitioner in a few months, so I’m *almost* qualified to speak on this 😂). It doesn’t hurt, so no harm done! But I respect you sharing information!

[@shruggs5279]

But, as Josh just described, the racism is not one-sided. The lady on the train proved it.

[@madalynvanwormer652]

Thank you, that's exactly what I was thinking. Sav saying it's impossible for her to experience racism is just not true

[@kokoautumn]

@@madalynvanwormer652 It’s just plainly irrelevant and not in any way comparable to the racism that Black people and other ethnicities face. I think that’s just common sense at the end of the day. 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[@shruggs5279]

@emikoautumn1631 never said it was... but I hate that your life must be so bad that you automatically felt that I was saying otherwise.

[@weenieboy_]

Thank you I was so bothered when Sav said she couldn’t possibly feel racism. Poor girl, that is brainwashing! Not from her husband but from the internet

[@CL-xyz9987]

Y'all... what? You cannot experience racism as a white person. "While assumptions and stereotypes about white people do exist, this is considered racial prejudice, not racism. Racial prejudice refers to a set of discriminatory or derogatory attitudes based on assumptions derived from perceptions about race and/or skin colour. Thus, racial prejudice can indeed be directed at white people (e.g., “White people can’t dance”) but is not considered racism because of the systemic relationship to power. When backed with power, prejudice results in acts of discrimination and oppression against groups or individuals." Literally google "can white people experience racism?" And every single response will say no.

[@MamaRobynR]

i had a mixed baby 20 years ago with a african american man. you would not even begin to believe the hell and insane circumstances we went through. i remember being screamed at by a stranger while i was on my college campus very pregnant walking with him and they were telling me i should of had an abortion. complete strangers. once we we’re holding hands walking to dinner downtown (in a very diverse bigger mid west city) and i woman and her husband were staring us down but i didn’t know if it was in a positive or negative way…..we’d get both back then. and then she SPIT ON ME AS I WALKED BY AND SAID “n-word lover”. i was like 37 weeks pregnant just walking happily down to get dinner. smh i have hundreds of stories. i will say it’s improved a lot since the but BY FAR NOT ENOUGH!! and having a kid starting middle school at a majority white school during the first Donald trump campaign/election was so unbelievably traumatic and dangerous i had move and switch my children to different schools. the staff was equally as bad as the kids in my opinion too. it’s sad because if you don’t live in a circumstance where you as a white person has been in a relationship interracially or raised black children or had maybe black bffs then you have a fake sense of security that it’s not as bad as it really is. now like i said it’s improved over the years but by far not enough. and a huge portion of the population has literally no clue …..i see it with my own family who have lived in very all white communities and never left etc. it’s crazy. thank you so much for this episode.

[@hoyowaco9842]

Abby I am a 56 yr old mother of two boys!! Who are now 24 and 25 years old! (15 months apart) It is a little harder to be the mother of the boy side of a couple BUT boys will always love their mama!!💙💙 pray for wonderful daughter n laws!! I have one already that is great!!

[@elaina0912]

Watching Sav flirt with Josh was sooo much fun and so so cute.

[@aprilove-xoxo]

I love josh and Savannah!!!! Can’t wait to watch this episode! ❤❤❤❤

[@aprilove-xoxo]

Love all 4 of you guys, I worded that wrong! ❤️ really enjoyed the episode! I had 2 under 2 twice lol 2 girls 10 years ago, and then 2 boys a couple years ago! Absolutely love listening to such relatable things ❤️🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽

[@marycelalopez]

I didn’t know who Sav & Josh were before this episode.. hearing them speak for the first time really made me wanna go look for them. Now they have a new subscriber ☺️ Ps. I appreciate you 4 being very conscious about keeping your kids’ faces private. Mad respect for you. 👏🏼 smart parents! The fact that Matt read Jeanette Mcurdy’s book 👍🏼

[@TaliaSC]

L&D nurse here! At 10:54, your placenta? If there’s any indications for it, the placenta is sent to the lab for testing. If not, you can donate it to a burn unit and it’s then used to create new skin for those in need, or it is discarded in a biohazard/medical waste bin. If you keep it, you have to sign a paper. We don’t want people planting them or burying them as they will rot and decompose and it’s not good for the environment for there to just be decomposing organs out and about that can cause disease and sickness. Hope that helps a little!

[@meaganmh09]

Very much love and appreciate how deep these conversations get. Even just on both of your individual podcasts 🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@MeOnly580]

Okay I hope this becomes like a frequent collab I love you guys together and I could so see Matt and Josh hanging out and Sav and Abby working out

[@SusanH578]

I’m a 51 yo Mom of 2 kids older than you kids & I don’t have grand babies yet. But I REALLY enjoy these podcasts & especially this one today! I had never heard of Josh & Sav but I really commend them for standing up for themselves in this horrible world with racism everywhere! I love that they have plans for their daughters for when they go to school & know they need to set personal boundaries for them! That’s just amazing to me that they are thinking that far ahead & tells me they are great parents!

[@QuilesJennifer]

This didn't even feel like an interview. It was really good. Maybe Abby can do future podcasts with moms postpartum and share their experiences.

[@VictoriaD10001]

Halfway through watching this- and so relatable!! 3.5 weeks postpartum here- and I never connected that those night sweats in the first week were because of hormonal changes… I would wake up drenched with sweat. Also SO relatable about trying to be the chill wife but silently resenting your spouse 😂 it has def been tough with feeling like you carry the bigger burden because you’re breastfeeding so you HAVE to be up in the night, versus it being more optional for your spouse. Thank you guys for being so honest and real about what postpartum is like

[@brandilewis3498]

Thank you all for your REALNESS!! Love how open and honest these conversations are. ❤❤❤

[@aleahchittum1520]

Wednesday is now my favorite day of the week, I never have a problem getting out of bed first thing on Wednesdays because I am always excited for a new episode😊

[@_hiitsmemimi]

As a nanny the share with your nanny comment and nannys cat made me laugh 😂 my cat would definitely appreciate this content lmao

[@jaecynmikayla4767]

first Kara & Nate and now Josh & Sav??? Y’all hosting my favs and I absolutely love it!!

[@Natalia_72]

The way Savannah said it’s impossible for her to experience racism when she just experienced it on the bus 😳😳… that lady saying “oh you don’t like chocolate” was racism against Sav not Josh 🤦🏽‍♀️. Racism goes both ways and it’s ignorant to sit there and say every race can’t experience it.

[@Anna08371]

It’s because white people are told they can’t experience racism WHILE they’re being harassed with racism. I went to a school where white was the minority and I wasn’t “allowed” to be upset about anything that happened to me because I was white 😂😂 it’s stupid. She probably didn’t want the comments to come for her.

[@aimsfabs6147]

There’s a difference between the lady on the train saying that (which was very wrong) and a system oppression against a specific race and having systems put in place to stop you from thriving and being paid less at work etc. That was the point they were trying to make. Racism - has the ISM at the end for a reason- it’s referring to a system. The same way SexISM is referring to the systemic differences in how women are treated in the workplace etc. We are referring to systems that oppress

[@chloecagle6493]

@@aimsfabs6147exactly

[@Natalia_72]

@@aimsfabs6147 The definition of racism is “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, or community” Again I will say she did and has experienced racism. EVERY single race has experienced racism in some form or fashion and it exists in every race. Black, Hispanics and Asians and many other races will be the first to say that! Me being one of them.

[@shaialexis928]

this is misinformation. racism is more related to the systemic oppression of marginalized groups. it’s a mix of prejudice and discrimination on a more policy and systems level.

[@Jess_Kozak]

I respect both couples for actually sharing the truth about how rough it could be with a newborn. And I know my son cried a lot. For no reason too. If my husband wasn't here to help and to switch off so I can take 5. It's so worth it though and our relationship was definitely tested. I didn't always like him but I always loved him. (My husband)

[@savannatrakas7130]

Fun little fact….. I found out I’m having my first baby during this video!!!

[@emmamobley9117]

Congratulations girl! I’ll be praying that you have a safe and healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby!

[@noelanilewis5104]

Congratulations!!! I hope you are doing well!!! 🥹🙏🏿💕

[@jadehart1562]

Watched Josh and Sav's Podcast Monday and re-watched it yesterday. Now this?! YASSS ❤❤ please do more videos together 🙏🏽 love you guys!!

[@carmensamone]

It's honestly both annoying and respectable when parents don't show their kids' faces. 😂 Like, I'm so glad you're protecting your kids' privacy. But I also wish I could see their beautiful faces lol. ❤

[@candyday2855]

Love the podcast!! I would like to say give yourself and each other grace. Marriage and parenting is hard and it's something you have to work at. I was 15 when I had my first son and it was really hard and I got married at 17, and we are coming up on our 20th anniversary, so I know Marriage is hard sometimes but it is the best thing ever. I have 4 boys my oldest is 22 and the youngest is 16 , and now I have a granddaughter and one on the way. Just injoy life and your little one's.

[@kimjohnston5226]

I just have to comment. I've been a grandmother for 6 and a half years now, I had the utmost priveldge to be present with both my daughters when they birthed their babies. And seeing them being birthing goddesses were peak moments in our lives. Birth isn't something to fear or fear on behalf of our daughters, it is literally the most empowering experience a woman goes through. And to become a grandmother is epic!!

[@Franciellestephanie]

I'm pregnant now, and my mom was crushed when I told her I just want my husband in the delivery room. I'm so afraid that she is going to make me nervous or maybe make me give up if it takes too long, and send me to the C-section, that I chose not to invite her. But I feel bad that she cannot be a part of it.

[@kimjohnston5226]

@@Franciellestephanie both my daughters birthed at home which made a huge difference. I am close with them both, but also I am a qualified pre natal educator and doula, so I understand physiological labour and birth. I would 100% respect the choices and decisions of any woman whose birth I attended in any capacity. Sending you lots of love x

[@laurenw1168]

You are so right that it's the most empowering experience 😊 I had twins vaginally, and for the last 5 years I've used that to remind myself how much I'm capable of, and the experience has helped me handle so many other things.

[@TaliaSC]

@@laurenw1168you, ma’am, are truly a birth warrior! Not many can have twins vaginally (as of late), and of those who can, many still choose to elect for the cesarean. (I’m a L&D nurse) If you can do that, I trust you can do just about anything! Go you!

[@brittneywheeler9404]

MATT HAHAHAHAHAA so relatable “my persons actually perfect so… sucks for you guys”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 literally lol 😂

[@Hanilane777]

Definitely one of my favorite podcast yet!

[@kristinwilliams1548]

My 2 FAVORITE KZbin couples!! Can’t wait to get off of work to watch this!!! 🥰

[@jenc3259]

Racism comes from all races. To say it only happens to one race narrows the conversation. What a naive thing for Sav to say, especially after the subway comment. A black woman was racist toward ya'll. Tribalism is a thing.

[@kirstenhaviland-phillips3526]

I have mixed kids and I’m telling you they have received the hate from both sides. Black and white. They unfortunately have had situations where they were not accepted from either side. Black or White. And you might be surprised with who gave the most hate. It’s been a long road for them but they know who they are and whose they are. We most definitely just need to love the people and pray and know that we most definitely cannot change people but can hopefully be the change and teach the change. Blessings to you all. May we all support interracial relationships and not be haters! ❤❤ And I’m sayin, I absolutely love when I see a black woman dating a white man. Back in the day, that was more rare. But it’s most definitely increasing. I absolutely love all races and the children are absolutely beautiful. Love love love. Let’s do it! ❤ 💪🏽 💪🏻💪🏿

[@itsRecords]

This episode just came out like 20 minutes ago, and I’m already listening to it at the gym😭

[@taylorsovis8390]

YES!! I commented a few weeks back to have Josh and Sav on the podcast! So happy to see them here!

[@matthewabanks]

Great podcast episode! This is the collaboration we know we need it! Love both of you all and the season of life y’all are in. Hopefully I can meet you all one day in person.

[@luccianaborn6629]

The “Shurl” thing CRACKED ME UP!!!😂

[@Officalsarahlister]

Love josh and sav! So sad they moved away from michigan, but love that they moved closer to family! Definitely so excited for this episode! ❤

[@SamHovey-Stubbles]

This was my favorite podcast out of all of them

[@saskiyahhhv]

I love this episode but Matt's feet not touching the floor always gives such an ick cuz he wiggles his toes so much and draws attention to them lool

[@kelseywalker5728]

The look abbey gave Matt when he opened his soda under the mic and he immediately moved it really got me 😅 & they’re both just smiling through it 😂

[@MCrvngraddip2013]

Although I like this channel. I really do. I just cant believe how little two young couples know about labour. Even after they've given birth. Twice. Appreciate the talk about depression and racism talk. An Sav, you said it wasn't possible to experience racism. But you do, everytime a black person says you shouldnt be with your husband. My best friends family was horrified when she brought home a white guy. It does go both ways. Although it doesnt diminish what black people have and still experience, especially in America.

[@megan-tl3lz]

why do you think they know so little about birth??

[@MCrvngraddip2013]

@megan-tl3lz their lack of knowledge of the process. The placenta being saved. There's no evidence it helps at all once the baby has stopped using it. Losing blood after. Of course you are. You're shedding the lining of your uterus which built up to protect the baby. There was also a lot in other videos where they've spoken about birth control/labour. The pull out method is not birth control. And getting pregnant that soon after the first birth can be very dangerous. Let me stress, I still really like this channel but I think you need to confirm the information you share and fact check. You don't need to be an expert to do that. I know they sometimes say this but their audience is huge and mostly young people. So it's just being responsible because they have so much influence. However, these minor annoyances are outweighed by their honesty, innocence, and kindness as a couple. They're very wholesome.

[@laceyarmstrong7216]

Matt!! I just love that you put that out there about not really realizing that racism is still a real thing that exists. I feel like our generation grew up that way, we only learned about the past but never realizing it was still in the present.

[@Disneymamaof3]

I almost died from internal bleeding after a c-section with our second baby and when I told my husband I was ready for another he was VERY against it. He saw all of my blood on the OR floor when the doctor screwed up and it scared him to see me so sick for weeks after but I just knew it was time (3 years later) I reassured him and he trusted me to know my body and we went on to have a totally healthy pregnancy and birth. I appreciated his support and trust.

[@savanahbbb]

love the mom talks! Helps us young moms out ❤

[@user-gq1oz1ol6r]

We were told a Daughter for life, a Son till he takes a Wife….it’s pretty true in our family BUT it’s the season of life we’re in w/young “adult” children. And momma & dada, just remember the days are long BUT the years are short!!! Keep on Keeping on💖

[@cindidelaney4962]

You all are so amazing. Such strength and honesty that you all display to the world and that makes such a good connection to so many. You are talking about what so many people go through every day and now they don’t feel so alone. Don’t change. So sorry people have to be so negative. Who cares what one looks like, love who you wish. If they don’t like it, too bad. They can keep scrolling, keep walking, move on.

[@clairesnelson9961]

Can't believe this is 34 weeks in!! Every episode is better and better! Thanks for bringing in the most real, authentic, caring people. I've learned and grew from each couple that has been brought on You both.make all the guests feel comfortable opening up and being themselves, which is a great trait for a hoast/podcast

[@isabella1249]

I love the episode! But I think it’s dangerous to say that white people can’t experience racism. Racism by definition is to treat someone differently or badly because of their ethnicity or color of their skin. White people can most certainly experience racism. I know she didn’t mean anything bad by it, but it’s sad to see that white people have to excuse their existence because of history. We should learn from it, but as long as you’re the kindest version of yourself, you’re doing everything you can. We can’t change history but we can choose how we act towards one another. Everybody should be proud of their ethnicity no matter what ❤️

[@makennaroberts5450]

😮😅🎉😅

[@makennaroberts5450]

🎉😊

[@makennaroberts5450]

🎉😊😂

[@makennaroberts5450]

😊

[@savedbygrace150]

Yesss!! I was just going to comment this. I noticed that too.

[@luvcorbin10]

Loved this podcast! Thanks for touching on racism and interracial relationships.

[@slaybae20]

Wow this is crazy 😂 I just found Josh and sav on instagram from their interviews during her pregnancy and now y’all are podcasting together 😁🥰

[@MikailaLange-qi1tu]

two of the most real couples on the internet. two of my favorite couples actually, I love you guys so much!

[@crismalichi]

I have been married to my husband for almost 16 years and yes it is both sided!!! Its so sad that we are in 2023 but yet still dealing with racism... But I'm so excited my two fav couples are together in one!!!

[@jordanbontrager186]

Omg I feel SO old! I knew Matt and Abby were younger, but had no idea Josh and Sav were only 27! I thought they were in their 30’s! You all are such great parents ❤😊

[@weenieboy_]

They look so young tho.. they don’t even look 30 to me lol

[@bkessinger94]

Ill be 29 this month. I feel so old too. Lol

[@headstring1217]

My little one is almost two and we listen to the podcast every week and he has started to say what's up dudes all the time cracks me up

[@janiceprimo271]

I love how you guys lift one another up and encourage each other. That is so amazing. Keep up the good work, you guys. Best wishes to all of you ❤️ 😊❤

[@corithiangreen9382]

Love this one thanks for bringing on a interracial couple I love this definitely enjoy the perspective .❤

[@Stampertribefamof5]

My two favorite podcasts in one! It's a great day!🎉

[@madalynvanwormer652]

I love you guys but I disagree with Sav saying it's impossible for her to experience racism...that's just not true. I mean the lady that made the comment about Josh being with a white girl on the subway, is that not kind of racist towards white girls?

[@crookedlines]

This is so interesting. I’ve often thought the same. Although it is of course far less common (and often less severe), I have seen similar situations. I think the idea is not to take away what non-white people have and continue to have to go through (basically highlighting white privilege). I raised this question in my college ethics class years ago, and that was the answer I received. As a white female, I’ve sort of made my peace with this issue recognizing I do not deal with racism or anything like it on even a semi-regular basis. You certainly have a valid point, in my opinion, I think the more important thing to remember, though, is that it isn’t the most important thing we should be focusing on. I think if we continue to show love toward everyone (as white people), that “racism towards white people” WILL dissipate. I strongly believe that. 🫂

[@riley2203]

Maybe it’s just me but Matt we’re doing his toes is so funny 😂 and then the look that Abby gave Matt when he was opening the pop can 🤣

[@mindysueloowho]

I LOVE Josh&sav! Another amazing episode guys!! ❤❤❤

[@chrissynecole]

The pranks were HILARIOUS! And they both did so good on acting.. I always go back and watch them so please don’t take them down. Josh used to called Sav Pooter, I still remember lol. This was a great collaboration on both channels!! Enjoyed!

[@anberminchew5808]

I never had postpartum depression with my first 4 kids but with my 5th. I’m struggling and trying to make it through and I’m 5 months postpartum.

[@KatieLogen]

Josh and Sav are so sweet! Love their vibe!!

[@CL-xyz9987]

So, there have been countless peer reviewed studies done about placenta encapsulation, and there is no actual scientific evidence that proves any of the "benefits" that we're told about. In fact, they found that it can actually pose serious risks. The hormones still in the placenta can delay the onset of postpartum depression, because it is giving pregnancy hormones which is not good for you after the baby. Many people found that their postpartum depression started later but was much worse than previous children who's placenta they did not encapsulate. If there are any ways that the placenta isn't frozen properly, dehydrated all of the way, or generally not done properly, even the slightest mishap can cause serious bacterial infections - often life threatening. The placentas job in pregnancy is to absorb any toxins; by taking the placenta, you are eating those toxins. Don't encapsulate your placenta

[@TaliaSC]

Thank you!

[@taabbym]

I really appreciate this kind of vulnerability from two real couples. I just felt sad after Sav said she has never felt racism because she’s white and “it isn’t possible” but yes she has. When that older woman asked her husband “you don’t like chocolate” that was a direct racial attack on not only him but also Sav. People of all races experience micro-aggressions and racism, and lately, white people are openly being attacked and we all seem to not bat an eyelash about it because it’s against white people and “they don’t experience that”. It’s a lie and nobody of any color should be seen as less than because of their skin or appearance at all.

[@maddygrace17]

“my boobs are not right” 🤣 girl I have never felt more understood

[@torinorton4702]

This is one of my favorites! So good!!!!

[@Gkadelan]

I just adore Josh and sav, and Matt and Abby!! This was just a perf podcast ❤

[@CaliAmandalyn1981]

You should get Slice & Rice on here! I just love them. They're another young couple with 2 kiddos.

[@_Simplychristie_]

Yessss

[@samanthagray24]

Josh, you’re right! It’s Churrrel!!! 😂😂 #LouisianaWoman 😂

[@NikoviaMcClenton]

This was a really good PODCAST with Josh & Sav ♥️ they spoke on some important/real topics.

[@Alsaidi1137]

Everyone here being all sweet while im looking for someone to comment about matt playing with his feet throughout the podcast 😅

[@kokoautumn]

Loved this!!! It’s so interesting as someone’s who’s also in an interracial relationship to see how other people in different ethnicities go about it. This collab was amazing! Cant wait for future episodes, especially the Kian and Ayla episode!! Much love y’all🫶🏼

[@bonganisikakane5432]

It’s really interesting seeing Josh and Sav be interviewed by people my age. It’s so interesting and I love it. I followed Matt and Abby cause the Age range is what I like. Not that Josh and Sav are OLD but like I feel like I relate so much to Matt and Abby but then I’m in an interracial relationship and myself and my girlfriend follow Josh and Sav together for this reason but I found Matt and Abby. These guys are my couple to follow. As a guy I know it’s weird but I love it. Matt by the way your music is fire wow.

[@alihawkins8264]

They have a 2 year age difference

[@lilacallister1179]

5:53 Ok. Can we just talk ab how Matt's RLLY havin' it right here??? Hahahaha!!

[@Jesusismysavior97]

Abby & her husband- the husband seems so relax & makes you feel relaxed 😎

[@lexximartin6809]

He has a name…

[@CamilleMoten]

I love both couples! I watch you both ! It’s been so helpful because I was pregnant around the same time as you guys with my first. My baby was born June 7th 2023 and for I while y’all were the only people around me dealing with the same things I’m going through. I’m truly a fan. Thank you for reminding me of my sanity 😅😂

[@MaddieHelman751]

Love your podcast!! ❤ I noticed one was posted with Dallin & Bella after adopting, but I cant find it anymore. Will it be posted again?

[@sheliadrennan653]

No they took it down because Bella was not forthcoming with the true story

[@jenbingham0914]

​@@sheliadrennan653wow, I dont have any clue what happened.

[@JessicaAkAAdiz]

I get what Matt means when he said he didnt know racism existed. It wasnt until HS, I seen racism be a huge issue on social media. My whole life until like 16, racism was never a topic in my world, considering I had friends of all race and ethnicities. Very sad that we're in 2023 about to be in 2024, how alive racism still is.

[@dinuriperera5015]

Best podcast and episode ever

[@synthialovesSLOTHES]

I have been waiting for this duO! I love both of you guys literally the most realistic and home video vibey youtubers especially being a young black woman these episodes are great i have learned so much about pregnancy as well tysm guys

[@allybaker7793]

I love watching you guys!! I’ve always enjoyed Sav and Josh’s content too! I’m a silent listener ❤️

[@steviearielle5249]

My fiancé and I were at a water park and this woman stopped right in front of us, looked me up and down and looked my fiancé dead in the face and said “Tell me why you’re with a white girl” and he said “not that it’s any of your business but because I love her” and the woman goes “actually it’s because you hate yourself” and walks away 😭😭 like what

[@NaomiandMatty]

I love all of your podcasts but especially this one thanks for sharing with us I shared this episode with someone to show my support

[@acordova5794]

I love you guys so much! I've watched literally every single video and podcast of ya'll

[@peppermccullar3479]

Josh and Sav do what you both want to and don't listen to the other people,I don't care if u r black,white,blue,red,purple or any other Color I will love you no matter what it is your personality that really matters!

[@SGandSL]

I looove watching you guys!!! My favourite time to watch is when I happen to get a day off on Wednesday and get to watch while I drink my coffee!!❤️

[@Hallooooo____]

It’s just an idea but maybe it would be fun if cam and Mel came on the podcast love you guys!

[@Ericalynnn]

Racism or prejudice can most definitely happen to any race and can come from any race. I grew up in the inner city where there was not as much white kids in my school and I was literally criticized for being a white girl. Most of the kids would tell me I wasn’t allowed to wear certain shoes I couldn’t wear certain clothes or that I couldn’t dance the list went on kids would try to fight me just because I was a little white girl lol. That was when I was in 4th and 5th grade very hard to deal with but I grew up great I have two biracial children and I teach them that they need to stand up for themselves and speak up to teachers and adults if any bullying is to happen and just over all be a good person there will always be mean people in this world no matter what race or gender.

[@aimsfabs6147]

I understand that and I’m sorry you went through that but prejudice and racism aren’t the same. Prejudice is thought. Racism has the ism as it is referring to systems- systems but in place to benefit one race and put down another in other words systemic oppression

[@Ericalynnn]

@@aimsfabs6147 Thank you. Racism is believing you are superior to another based on skin color it absolutely has nothing to do with power or system. Racism is a belief

[@catokorstanje8341]

⁠@@aimsfabs6147 So I looked up the definition of racism and you’re statement seems to be wrong, atleast for the all the definitions that I could find. These are two of them: “a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race” and “Insult, hatred or intentional discrimination on grounds of race”

[@cloudsunicorns194]

​@@aimsfabs6147Did you make these definitions up?

[@cloudsunicorns194]

​@@catokorstanje8341Correct

[@JB11334]

Matt and Abby- I live in Arizona. To deal with the heat join a lifetime gym and use their massive outdoor community pool or indoor pools with your family. You’ll have to wake up at 5-7am to get outside before it gets too hot. Yes you can go to the park at that time or for walks and bike rides. Lastly, visit Prescott, Flagstaff, and Sedona during the weekends to get outside and enjoy lower temperatures. Also trips to California. These are things I wish I knew before moving here.

[@thetruthhurts9220]

Lmao where did you move from? I grew up here and im still not used to the heat. It’s awful. Not sure why people flocked here.

[@raerae7094]

I love seeing this episode, I am Spanish and white and my man is black and white and we deal with soooo much from strangers and family, it’s sucks

[@atomp7055]

Great guests! Loved this episode

[@jennythefam]

I love love love both couples here! It makes my day to see yall together!!❤

[@queenbreezy895]

I feel like I've related to Josh and Sav the most because I'm in a long distance, interracial relationship also in Oregon. It's difficult in many different ways

[@aubriannecarpitcher-lz1ej]

I think there something so ❤️about interracial couples