Unpopular K-Pop Opinions… Here We Go

[@reveorbit]

Hi everyone! A lottt of people have commented on my pronunciation of dahyun, I now know how to pronounce it the right way, thanks for letting me know. And thank you for all of your support on this video!

[@krispy9877]

This is so random but i love your voice...it's very calming/articulate!

[@i2yuris]

its da-yun btw , the spelling is just dahyun

[@reveorbit]

the way people are still commenting about it even after I pinned this comment 😔

[@charis3970]

@@reveorbit You were pretty close tbh, there is a slight push of an 'h' sound because if you read the korean spelling it's 다현. Plus you're speaking English, it doesn't really matter. I bet most people commenting you're pronouncing it wrong aren't saying it right either. It's a tricky language to pronounce correctly.

[@kjuneey]

wait is Tzuyu’s name actually pronounced as chewie?

[@hungtotheover3385]

I hope that October has a lot of Halloween comebacks because there are so much summer songs but not enough Halloween horror songs! Love this video btw!!

[@reveorbit]

Joan of Arc that would be really cool, like rbb & tt!! and thank you :)

[@acacia2649]

You should check out girls by Nature :)

[@fanboyioi4441]

⟭⟬𖧵C N𖧵⟭⟬ but it came out in summer and not October :((((

[@koloketchup236]

I think Ateez will have a Halloween comeback... At least that's what the beat at the end of thanxx says

[@sarahnicolau59]

DREAMCATCHER comeback!

[@hyejoonn2980]

no one actually asked but, here's one of mine: I think that the public only stan red velvet when they do "Bad Boy" kind concept, which is kinda sad because we already got a lot of groups with that concept and is good to see something different.

[@reveorbit]

I agree! the public likes generic songs

[@ericccky]

@@reveorbit SHADEEEE haha 😆

[@ilhanahmed8519]

Bad boy was really it

[@alumiuquer3993]

I dont think so, earlier on their debut they had a lot of people stanning because of their red style but SM-- this year for some reason releases "experimental" red flavor song.

[@hitmanbangshat2885]

I like theyr red concepts more 😳 lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣 But all of theyr music is good so...💅

[@yea7313]

i feel like Twice doesn't get enough credit, like they've written such a huge part of their discography and no one knows about that.

[@desflores7202]

Yes exactly

[@sorfina2001]

@JAYA REIS jype didnt train them really well for vocals

[@leeminhomademestraightagai4134]

y'all just hate cute stuff and it shows. Twice are talented whether people like it or not.

[@desflores7202]

@@leeminhomademestraightagai4134 YES YES YES my girls

[@leeminhomademestraightagai4134]

@@desflores7202 twice best gg periodt

[@gurleen7041]

FINALLY someone mentions how ‘unpopular’ kpop actually is in the west. kpop stans often find themselves in a small bubble and surround themselves with people that know kpop online like on twitter but I barely know anyone that likes kpop irl. Even the general public genuinely doesn’t care for it. A lot of people think that when groups like BTS preform on award shows they’ll get tons of new fans but in reality many locals just skip it and wait for acts they know like western artists.

[@Ana-i3o9b]

me who saw at least 100 kpop fans irl-👁👄👁

[@lou_ni_shine]

I have some friends irl that like Kpop! I think it gets slowly more popular~ but I know what you mean...

[@gurleen7041]

Anushka Chowdhury again there are definitely kpop stans in the west but i’m talking about like the ‘locals’

[@gurleen7041]

it definitely is but it mainly stems from people that are already in stan culture like people like like anime, etc. it’s more difficult to see locals that like singers like drake or something even caring about kpop.

[@hannahseul9500]

Yeah, I’m like an outcast to my friends :( the only person I can talk about it with is my best friend, which is kinda convenient :)

[@ananyasampathkumar3832]

catellena is a whole bop though let’s be honest

[@inferiorinferno8859]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacts!

[@joy_candy1409]

HAAAAAAH

[@dancewithzin]

*shrieks* HAAIH

[@EloHell1129]

Hah! HAH! hAáãÅĀAAaÄhH!

[@jhondelabas9311]

HAAAAAH

[@kari2555]

This year's summer is empty because we didn't have a comeback from RV

[@shidhantrai3507]

I’m already crying

[@gemmagadon9501]

@LP - 07MM 924201 David Leeder MS that isnt a SUMMER comeback

[@niqueh2828]

@LP - 07MM 924201 David Leeder MS OP implied it was a summer comeback from the first part of her sentence and Seulrene debuted so that wouldn't count as a comeback but I get what you were trying to say

[@spopk7866]

Right i was here waiting like👩🏽‍🦲

[@jack15390]

summers have been bland since SISTAR disbanded💔💔💔(please don’t come at me im just a SISTAR stan)

[@donotcallmeyongbokiamchang3431]

Finally, someone needed to said that the noise argument is just shit to bash songs with diverse instruments

[@Allhailhitmanbang]

Do NOT call me Yongbok I AM: Changbin's bitch I like your username stay

[@limnaee1812]

This, why can't people just accept that there are different music genres lol...

[@originalresin5002]

limnaee Because they’re music Karens lol

[@claireb1573]

Um, technically all music is "noise" because you can hear it so like what are they trying to prove and like that's just such a stupid argument...

[@blossicity]

Exactly, Stray Kids are my ults and you know how their music isn't for everyone (mostly the title tracks), they are more targetted towards an audience since their title tracks and songs are more aggressive than the usual Kpop songs we hear and I know people who call their music "noise music" and I'm over here like wtf is noise music, it's called EDM combined with hip-hop, it's literally a genre and those songs are made to hype people up like I'm about to snap their necks like how Hyunjin snapped Felix's neck during Side Effects.

[@howdoesonecomeupwiththese]

I honestly think red velvet, stray kids, bts, loona, txt and got7 are some of the most versatile kpop groups out there.

[@joelyravioli3002]

and (G)I-DLE

[@pjmsparkle5104]

I agree 100000000000%

[@mxxrabani6301]

You forget dreamcatcher.

[@jojo-li8mz]

seventeen 😼

[@chrustopherhenderson4988]

@@jojo-li8mz im so glad someone mentioned SEVENTEEN they are really creative and versatile especially in choreography

[@redrosies8582]

Saying a song is just “noise” makes absolutely zero sense

[@unregisteredhypercam3969]

And not to mention that some people actually enjoy the messy sounding songs (like me), everyone has different music taste

[@xuepingsu]

In architecture noise is defined as unwanted sound and its specifically for sound pollution. But nevertheless people have different music taste, some ppl love loud music like rock, some ppl don't. A good thing about Kpop is that it has a variety

[@yingvanche]

Then their daily are just actions.

[@zakiechan6174]

Noise=Sound Sound=Music Music=Kpop Kpop=Good 😊😊😊

[@cristianrossi6172]

It actually does, idol by bts is really out podiums and just sounds like someone saying o o oah

[@ehohreolli5349]

*"Being an idol doesn't mean you have to be a good singer if you're in a group"* SM idols: *is that allowed?*

[@dearyujin7262]

😹

[@chiara9224]

Cube: No, it isn't

[@tinaachkar9822]

Lol

[@vera-ou7eg]

im okay if they just call themselves idols but twice have called themselves singers and are also acknowledged as singers! So imagine hearing the statement "Being a singer doesnt mean you have to be a good singer" like what. There is a video of momo calling herself a singer as well and not being able to do anything else if she weren't a singer.

[@tinaachkar9822]

@@vera-ou7eg I kinda agree for what you said they lack at singing but I think the main reason is actually jyp he doesn't have good vocal trainers twice may have potential to improve there singing they obviously lack at technique except jihyo and jeongyeon and tbh im not hating on twice they are amazing I love them but the title nation girl group is just to big I hope everyone can see my point of view and again im not hating on them just my opinion

[@stellarose8186]

Alot of kpop stans logic Popular = overrated

[@skittle-chan1628]

ikr😩

[@kalali7448]

Not known international: Underrated

[@yayuyu4153]

EXACTLY and they say: just because theyre popular doesnt mean theyre talented honey, let me tell you. just because your faves are not popular, doesnt mean they are extremely talented either

[@Aiyenolobia]

Those idols working hard to succeed yet they get called "overrated"

[@kalali7448]

When a Idol looks good = Plastic Surgery When a Idol don't fit a Standard of beauty = Ugly

[@yamatonadeshiko567]

True, not all Twice members are great vocalists and I accept that as a once. Most onces accept that. What irks me is when a lot of people act as if Twice is the only group who has majority of members that have weak vocals. Majority of kpop groups are guilty of that. Not all kpop groups are like Mamamoo in which 3/4 members are main vocalist material. Speaking of technique, I am not an expert either but most kpop groups only have one or 2 members out 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 etc members who can be considered technically decent or have known the basics. Twice has 3 which is Jihyo, Jeongyeon and Nayeon or 3mix. Michaeng, Satzu and Dahyun aren't vocally strong which is no different from sub-vocalists from any other kpop groups but they are doing a decent job as sub-vocalists. Momo is the most controversial with her vocals. She can be hit or miss, I admit, but she has a lot moments where she sounded fine, it's when she's not being forced to sing in a way to achieve a certain color or sing out of her comfortable range. Unpopular opinion: 3mix is really underrated as a vocal line.

[@captainbeidou]

JAYA REIS your right.

[@captainbeidou]

I agree with you .

[@88Manel88]

@Pinkii Lights I'm so happy that someone else acknowledged how talented CSJH The Grace were. Lina is still my fav female vocalist

[@yamatonadeshiko567]

@Pinkii Lights In kpop, a vocal line with average rating and having 3 members with a supported range is actually much better than a lot. Most kpop groups usually only have at least 1 and sometimes 2 members who can support their notes while Twice has 3. It's also common for a lot of kpop groups with either average, above-average or competent main vocal with a weak lead vocal. Some groups have main vocalists with support that is more shallow than Nayeon. Groups like Mamamoo in which majority of members (3/4) have above average vocals are rare in kpop. Twice vocal line isn't Mamamoo or Red Velvet but they are not as weak as people make them out to be. It's just that a lot of people act as if other groups are like Mamamoo when compared to Twice or as if most main vocalists are like Wendy when compared to Jihyo when it actually isn't. And I don't give a damn with the "but as a group they are weak" reasoning that a lot of people throw at them because majority of kpop groups can be considered vocally weak as a group since majority of the members of every kpop groups are not capable of supporting their notes. That's why kpop groups have a vocal line, dance line or rap line.

[@vy575]

for me every twice member is good in vockals. Jihyo,jeongyeon and nayeon are the strongest but other members are stable and i like everyones voice and vockals in general. If momo wouldnt be forced to sing in that kinda noise vocie she would be 2x better in vockals

[@gigistone5565]

Actually every or most groups under SM are the most versatile but since Red Velvet is the only group promoting properly,I guess they could be called the most versatile group

[@merina420]

You are 100% correct.

[@blessmeachoo3639]

The most unpopular comment

[@blessmeachoo3639]

@@mcrvm Promoting now. Maybe she meant that since any other group like SNSD, EXO, Suju, and many more are not active. It's only NCT and RV

[@gigistone5565]

@@mcrvm well do you see any other group apart from Red Velvet(and NCT) being promoted by SM? No. It's just those two and Red Velvet is one of the most promoted groups IN THIS TIME! I never meant in history

[@gigistone5565]

@@mcrvm i am chill. I was just putting emphasis on my words. Unfortunately no company can ever manage more than two groups well but at least they get promoted

[@einnor5005]

an example of a group with no official positions is TXT. no one stands out, no one lefts behind. their talents are perfect and a member doesn't outshine another member. they're just a perfect group.

[@TOMORROW_X_TOGETHER28]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@nyangsteefies]

yea they're pretty amazing tbh

[@aubrey8608]

Seriously though, kpop really isn’t that popular here in the USA, and its sad how people think you are weird when you like it.

[@blacklungsanji3]

I mean between stan twitter fans doxxing people for disagreeing with them and the huge difference in culture and the way kpop operates it does make sense for most people to think that it’s weird and be out off by it (doesn’t make it right but regardless)

[@inferiorinferno8859]

@@blacklungsanji3 I know. I posted this in my unpopular opinion above, but ARMYs attacking radio show hosts for criticizing BTS' English pronounciation isn't giving us a great rep either.

[@patticamper613]

That's not just a attacking people for not agreeing with you that's racist. Don't criticize someone with an accent whos first language isn't english for pronouncing words wrong

[@Mulukan57]

It's like, people know Kpop but treated as a niche genre just like people know anime but treated like s niche genre too but I'm pretty sure everyone get the idea who's BTS just like people know what kind of show is Pokémon

[@koga_the_wolf7857]

It's waaaaaay more popular than it was 11 years ago (when I first got into it), back then I could literally talk to no one about K-pop, unless you count Gangnam style. Now that I'm in highschool, I've seen so many people with Kpop merch, and I've met so many kpop fans and it got to the point where I felt smothered. Back when school was in-person, I never went a single day without hearing people talk about some Kpop group or artists. In my opinion, it is very popular over here; Just because people don't listen to it doesn't mean that they're not aware of it (Also, I hope I'm not coming off as mean)

[@emelynj2028]

Opinion: Stray Kids, Ateez and TXT are one of the most versatile 4th gen boy groups

[@nandasajan6520]

Ateez too ! My opinion lol

[@kadzx.x]

Artemis Hope Malfoy_08 ME TOO. They’re my three ult groups🙃

[@nandasajan6520]

@@kadzx.x yaaaass, #mostatiny😂

[@dghsdjk44]

emelyn justin They’re gonna rule 4th gen when more groups get added to it.

[@nandasajan6520]

@@dghsdjk44 ikrr

[@kae797]

Also, Twice’s summer song “Dance The Night Away” is a bop.

[@shinryujin3216]

lalalalallaala lets dance the night away

[@jaydie986]

Since SISTAR is gone, RV needs to put out some real summer sht again next year.

[@joelyravioli3002]

Hyolyn exists...

[@dreamclub9830]

yea but someone wasn't careful enough *cough* sbs *cough*

[@person9500]

^^^

[@huckleberi6540]

You can’t spell versatile without Mamamoo. Like sis they literally went from debuting wth a jazz/ r&b sound like Mr. Ambiguous to latin/pop sound like Egotistic then straight up pop/ hiphop with HIP. I don’t want to undermine RV cuz i love them, I just wanted to give Mamamoo the credit they desserve

[@bibbidi-bobbidi-boo1043]

Now you need to edit this comment and add the new ones. In one month they went from Wanna be myself, to Dinnga, to Aya to their entire new album.

[@mariatetraduce2523]

INDEED

[@zoutheinaabbas1003]

I was waiting for someone to say that

[@purpleglitz]

different genres but they always have the same sound

[@sima28]

esha you think AYA sounds like HIP? dingga sounds like Mr ambiguous? Egotistic sounds like anything they’ve ever done? i- 🙂

[@ChingaTuMadre94]

As a classically trained violinist and percussionist, I HATE when people call certain unique symphonics, melodies and modulations, “noise”. Oh sorry, you want boring Top40, 3-5 layer music with the same chords and song pattern. Gosh the mass is the reason mainstream music is trash. I became a fan of kpop back in 2005 for the reason that they went from mimicking American boy band pop to the iconic and unique quality and sound that is now known as kpop. I’m not quite happy that it’s kind of starting to mimic American Top40 music but thankfully, out of all the k entertainment agencies, SM, has been doing well staying true to kpop. Red Velvet is also one of my favorite gg’s and I wish they stay being true to the versatility they offer. Thank you for sharing your awesome opinions :) I would’ve never guessed you were a recent kpop fan!

[@minminnnn]

frrrr its way harder to get into new kpop songs/groups these days

[@selenevandernix9353]

FINALLY somebody saying it! Kpop is really starting to sound like american pop lord why

[@anudarie2758]

Check out stray kids if you can.

[@ChingaTuMadre94]

@@anudarie2758 Thank you! I did! I really like the fact that the members write or contribute to the composition of the songs. (Especially, "God's Menu"). Gods Menu made me giddy because of all the crazy transitions and creativity of layered samples and sound

[@mariamacamara1449]

Kpop group that ARE versatile: mamamoo red velvet bts Best kpop group with no position assign = TXT

[@davadu0_045]

👏👌

[@taejungyeonjinhwan7376]

what abt Twice btw ??

[@kalali7448]

@@taejungyeonjinhwan7376 They are actually still showing their versatility. It's started when Fancy Era Rule the whole Twice Fandom

[@taejungyeonjinhwan7376]

@@kalali7448 yas...

[@sieekakhan6761]

Really? I didnt know TXT has no position

[@zeetaca9801]

In regards to TWICE, jyp enforces his "half air, half sound method". Sunmi left jype bc he pushed this method of singing with every song which restricted her form experimenting with her vocals and various sounds. His biggest flaw is thinking that everything is teachable no matter what. Therefore, rather than focusing on the members strengths, he forces them to sing out of their comfort zone and vocal range in order to achieve his method. Jyp and BEP (their producer) highly favours more feminine, high pitched soprano vocals, so all the members who have lower registers (like Momo, Sana, Dahyun and Tzuyu) dont get to showcase their talent or get the time to work on it. If you really want to hear what the members sound like when they actually control their voices you can watch Sixteen, Move and Good Bye cover, Dahyun singing Feel Special on piano etc. So yes, obviously jyp's technique will suit more members than others but to say they can't sing is a stretch.

[@ryuustories]

I remember when somi was still in jype and when the sm vocal coach came to the unnies and she looks so genuinely intrested on learning other stuffs about vocals.... Poor other artist under him,, they cant even showcase their own voice colour

[@afia7425]

Thank you as a once I'm so sick and tired of hearing twice aren't good vocalists, or momo can't sing. If people actually did a little research they would figure out that momo has an amazing voice when she sings in a much lower register. Most other idols would sound shit too if they were forced to sing in that high range like kai from exo or lisa from blackpink just off the top of my head

[@taejungyeonjinhwan7376]

@@afia7425 yes as in Sixteen i know...but thats past now :(

[@Olivia-ed3ny]

to me i think TXT is the most versaitle group because every new comback i literlly don't know whats coming like we had pets in cat and dog, in can't you see me we had a dark lonely them, in puma it was a zoo, in fairy of shampoo it was magical, and more and now in the new blue hour some sort of gaming theme/ i have new clue

[@kalali7448]

And the story behind in every song also makes my head hurts (in a good way)

[@Thatgirlsam21]

True, also stray kids. They have so many genres that people haven't done like gods' menu or levanter. And they write their songs which make it deeper. Also, side effect was a whole new type of music and skz was the first one to do so in kpop.

[@virginiawoolf974]

@@Thatgirlsam21 Dunno about you but I jam to WOW :)

[@Thatgirlsam21]

@@virginiawoolf974 bruh- wow ain’t noise. Both 3racha or dance racha. They were never critiqued for being noise but there other songs like side effects isn’t noise either. People just have no taste 🍵

[@chaoticdolly5280]

I do agree about Red Velvet being versatile but i also think that Dreamcatcher is versatile as well, if we look at their b-sides you have song like Jazz Bar which is obviously Jezz then we have Black or White typical DreamCatcher sound then you have In The Frozen which is EDM and you have Red Sun which is mix of few concepts, and basically even with their title tracks you dont know what to expect cause you have Good Nigh which is pure rock then you have Fly High wich has more of a fantasy concept with mix of rock and you have Boca thats more pop with rock

[@reveorbit]

ChaoticDolly I totally agree! I mean look at them when they were Minx too

[@robinmckenzie8741]

@@reveorbit what about mamamoo?

[@penguinjisoo3334]

Louder! 😍

[@rachelwynn4450]

ChaoticDolly CLC is also such a versatile group! They’ve done retro vibe (pepe), ballads (where are you), cute (no oh oh, high heels) and badass (hobgoblin). I’ve just named some but you get the point, they deserve more recognition. Do check out their latest single “helicopter”, its really good!

[@chaoticdolly5280]

@@rachelwynn4450 Yes i agree

[@movedtosvtgarnet9718]

1. Agreeeeee i love them, but is a fact. Sana is improving soooo much 2. In Portugal its the same :| there are not that much people liking 3. I don't agree :') i love the summer concepts 4. I agree, but seventeen does the same, they are always switching concept 5. Agree 6. Agree 7. Yes :| that's true 6. Agree 7. Agree!!!! 8. Agree!!!!!!! 9. Also agree!!!

[@reveorbit]

svtgarnet thank you for your sweet compliments in your other comments!! :) I love hearing your opinions!

[@kadzx.x]

skyeet -_ UM SNKLDKRKD

[@ajl3283]

@@skyewel eye- I was confused for like 5 minutes

[@margaridaalvaro2425]

omg a portuguese kpop stan UWU mds é a primeira vez que encontro outro/a (ns lol) tuga num video de kpop :)

[@anabelo6160]

Olha a tuga sksksksk mano serio que nnc encontrei outra kpop stan que é tuga

[@aashiryamenon4870]

4:13 I do agree...but I think Mamamoo is also one of the other K-pop Girl groups who have a lot of different concept If you compare their debut and their recent songs like Hip, Gogobebe, Egoistic etc. you can see how different their concepts can be....Just my opinion STAN MAMAMOO STAN RED VELVET STAN TALENT

[@reveorbit]

Aashirya Menon I love how mamamoo sticks to a more mature style but still has a lot of variety!

[@layloo5244]

For sure. People never mention Mamamoo when it comes to changing concepts. They have done it constantly. But because they stick to mature concepts people think they dont change much when they do. Look at them during Um Oh Ah yeh and You’re the best. Where they had the goofy cute beagle image. To more serious songs like Starry night and Wind flower that were sad songs. They always say we will give yall different images/sides to us and they always did. A lot of people say they never know what they’re next comeback is gonna be like. They always surprise

[@laylashaikh7446]

I wish people also mentioned Mamamoo more

[@DBC428]

@@layloo5244 when you said mature, im immediately attacked with the memory of waggy😂 i do think theyre very versatile too, jazzy cooncept, rnb, ballad, latin, disco ish, girly, sexy, they even made their own disstracks lmao theyre such dorks

[@layloo5244]

A D LMAOOO with the few exceptions ofc😭but because those are bsides only fans find them. But mamamoos overall image i guess is mature

[@ambz.108]

i love your opinions and the fact that you had a deep explanation for each of them. especially for the first one abt (my ults) twice, ty for not being like those ppl in stan twt who have bashed twice’s vocals every time they breath

[@desflores7202]

YES OMG

[@captainbeidou]

Yes I AGREE !

[@jellikiti]

okay but dahyun isn't a rapper actually her rap is,,,, kinda cringy, her singing voice is much better and cute, she might not be able to hold such high notes but she's got a cute voice.

[@5and988]

ur probably saying that because you are used to a rapper being a girl crush? Or am i wrong? :)

[@jellikiti]

@@5and988 nah, there's females idols with cute concepts that rap very well and i am not into girlcrush that much. its just that, dahyun wasn't mean to be a rapper, and she's much better as a vocalist

[@animerocksyourworld6229]

i honestly don't think dahyun excels in either singing or rapping, her rapping is pretty emotionless and her singing seems super breathy and also quite monotone. i don't mean to sound like she doesn't bring anything into the group, that's just my opinion, and I think she still has a lot of charm and natural charisma as an idol.

[@alvhildda]

i felt like i was the only person thinking of that!

[@maeabano9738]

i really wish momo and dahyun will switch places momo's voice fits rapping so well it'll sound so unique and distinctive and dahyun's soft voice is good enough for momo's parts in singing

[@blakedora7458]

Stray kids stans got pissed at "noise" So many people call their music noise, but it really isn't 😔😔

[@tiff-anypaper3375]

Yeah like there basically calling Helevator as "nOiSe" when the lyrics literally hits deep...

[@blakedora7458]

@@tiff-anypaper3375 HELLEVATOR AS NOISE!?!?! I WANNA SEE THEIR ARTIST RAP SING AND DANCE PERFECTLY WHILE POTRAYING THE SADNESS AND PAIN THROUGH EACH OF THOSE SEGMENTS

[@tiff-anypaper3375]

@@blakedora7458 That's how toxic Stan Twitter gets..They became brainless

[@blakedora7458]

@Pinkii Lights yeah, but people who call it NOiSE as in, awful and all

[@stptful]

I mean music is literally noise

[@lizikefre]

In my opinion, Red Velvet could be called the most conceptually versatile group and they really pull it off well. But if you look beyond their title tracks and music videos, their music basically ranges from just dominantly pop and r&b. It'd be cool to hear their vocal colours on different genres like hip hop, latin etc. I'd say other groups that are the most versatile for me when it comes to the music would be Mamamoo and Seventeen. I know as groups, they can pull of any genre and have done it exquisitely. ✌

[@shidhantrai3507]

Zimzalabimzimzimzalabimzim

[@rena5full816]

I agree mamamoo is more versatile because it's like they switch up on concept but they still have an identity and theme to them. I feel like RV just try out different things to see what's a hit or miss. I don't see the identity in them. I feel like sometimes they are reaching for what's more popular type of thing. Especially lately. I'm not even a stan of mamamoo or 17 but they are the groups that maintain their identity while trying different concepts. They are definitely the most versatile kpop group as a whole

[@lizikefre]

@@mcrvm Yeah ofcos. Their discography is one of my favourites, I've literally gone through their albums. But if you want to name songs that aren't predominantly pop, r&b and soul, please do and I'll definitely have another listen

[@lizikefre]

@@mcrvm Really if you have any recommendations, I'm all for it. To me they have one of the best discographies because of how cohesive their albums are as in they stick to one genre so everything flows. It would be great hearing their vocal colours on other dominant genres. Mamamoo's last album reality in Black, there's jazz, reggae, ballad, pop, edm and whatever Destiny is lol that's why they're more versatile music wise but for a more cohesive album like RV then Blue;S is the best.

[@joelyravioli3002]

I think (G)I-DLE could be one of the most versatile groups in future, experimenting with those hip hop, pop and latin genres and even changing a songs whole vibe (Put It Straight Nighmare version vs album version) and if Cube keep giving them freedom I can see them becoming more versatile each comeback

[@kula9643]

i personally think Red Velvet and LOONA are the most versatile groups in K-Pop. and I also think Twice is climbing up the ladder as well!

[@heyimpotato2186]

Yeah i hope twice have a different concept like girl crush concept , badass concept and not only cute concept😅

[@Bangtanatrash]

@@heyimpotato2186 I think they have been doing more then cute concepts also with the market being over saturated with girl crush I want them to stay with where they are at and continue with whatever

[@minsung29]

Also Mamamoo.

[@brambillafumagalli7652]

I think also Mamamoo are the most versatile group together with Red Velvet. Who agrees?

[@sieekakhan6761]

Yeah i agree

[@bibbidi-bobbidi-boo1043]

I think it's because mamamoo and red velvet have the vocal power and diversity for it. Most groups have either all the members with the same type of voice, or they just dont have the range and skills, so they are very limited in what they can do for their song to succeed. We stan powerful vocals lol.

[@joyapredista1244]

yep

[@amandaerikalim7312]

I think it's because of their agency tbh. Mamamoo's agency is known to have a close and dynamic relationship with Mamamoo, with the members having a say in their outfits, choreo, and songs. Idk about SM and RV because I don't really stan them (sorry), but GG used to be a bit of a versatile group too ("a bit" because I also don't stan them, I just hear a lot of their songs in public, half sound the same, half are different from each other).

[@ere2946]

I love collaborations but I like more kpop artists collaboration with kpop artist than western collaborations.

[@pipelayomimiko]

I wish Red velvet gave us a banger summer comeback 🥺

[@raven-kn6lv]

About the noise songs issue. I'm not a professional producer, but from my knowledge I think the reason why people say a song is noise is because of too many instrumentals composed in one song example they add bells and trap music and a piano and bass and a guitar and too many background vocals. So they're put on top of one another which makes it so overwhelming. Or too many parts that are just different from each other like in itzy dalla dalla and red velvets rbb and zimzalabim the rap verse is so different from the prechorus as well as the chorus as well as the bridge. it's like a whole roller coaster. Or The volume of the composition of certain instrumentals in a song is just high. If you didn't know then yes the volume of a song can be edited in studio to make it high/louder for anticipated hype, example the volume is low in the verse and bridge then it's all of a sudden higher/louder in the chorus. Even if the consumer reduces the volume from their phone the volume edited in studio is still high/louder. That's why people feel like the music is loud especially international fans who are used to simple musical production songs like say so by doja cat or heartless by the weekend(small examples) As for me I'm used to the quote on quote "noise" music.😂😂 I hope this comment makes sense

[@OrangeyTangerine]

Producer here! I'm pretty sure what you just said is for the general public is very accurate. But now with some technicalities, "Noise Music" is actually a thing, and I'm 100% sure K-pop songs aren't it because it is a genre from the beginning of the 20th century where they make unpleasant sounds in an organized way, per say. Also, from a technical point of view, noise in a sound or song could just be considered everything above 5kHz, but could be argued to be above that, or that all sound is noise and all that. From my producer perspective, I think what people mean is just a song being "over-produced" or clouded with too many instruments that would distract the listener from the main elements like you said. I don't know what songs people usually refer to, but we live in a simple era, the average joe likes to listen to as few things as possible, that's why using just 808's, Hi Hat's a Snare and another random sound takes songs to the charts, which is my personal opinion is kinda sad, but don't get me wrong, there are some great songs with only basic elements and sometimes it's harder to make a good song with few elements, what I'm saying is that if there's not anything complex to balance things out, then we're screwed. Sorry for the rant.

[@raven-kn6lv]

@@OrangeyTangerine no you're not ranting at all. Thank you for sharing. 😊. I don't know much about these so it's good that someone who majors in these explain and correct. Nothing wrong.

[@lauram3267]

(1) - it had to be said 😔 As a vocal student, a lot of the members lack proper technique... (2) - I don't live in the USA 🤡 (3) - Yes??? I thought I was the only one thinking this??? Summer concepts are getting so generic. (4) - I pretty much agree. Every concept slaps me in the face, stabs me and then calls me untalented in 30 languages xx (5) - yes. 💘 (6) - this is why I'm not on k-pop Stan twitter... Armies get such a horrific reputation when in reality they aint that bad :-) (7) - yeah... I feel bad for all these rookie groups :_( (8) - I agree with the opinion but disagree with the reasoning. I don't like collabs because usually no effort goes into the song and its just a way to make a quick buck. (9) - As an ITZY and SKZ Stan, YES. Spill it 😘 (10) - I don't really mind having no positions but when they have no lines its just dumb. So I agree :-) Thanks for reading luv xx

[@StarAreebaGoRandom]

Blinkz nd armiez come bad when they r nice fandom but twitter makez it look bad as many fake accountz existz

[@AP-of5kj]

omg it's so nice to hear someone say nice stuff about army. thank you! im also a fellow midzy!

[@jasalinnguyen8192]

Just like with summer concepts I think girl crush is being overused as well. I don’t hate groups that do it but it gets boring when everyone is trying to go for bp and itzy style idk wish pastel was still a big thing

[@yingvanche]

Twitter and KZbin or other social media platform are the reason I don't wanna be seen as an army (like not as a first impression).

[@AP-of5kj]

@@yingvanche that's a bummer cause armys are actually one of the best fandoms out there. we donate millions of dollars to charity, help each other with studies, support our boys and have a good time together! other fandoms hate us so they highlight when some armys do something not nice, but that happens in literally every fandom.

[@mythicalgod3731]

Fun fact: most “blackpink” profile pictures fan pages are other fandom creating an illusion to hate on blackpink

[@erachelheads6328]

UP

[@lilbloomingdaisy9643]

.......Twitter and TikTok need to say something lol

[@shinryujin3216]

THIS. THEY R 99.9% PROBABLY JUST RUINING BLINKS’ IMAGE.

[@cheesecaketas]

with the fourth opinion i agree but i would also add txt just look at their new ep the dream chapter: eternity

[@TOMORROW_X_TOGETHER28]

✨MY #1 FAVORITE ALBUM✨ no album could ever top that album! It’s not only my favorite album from them BUT from ANY albums in this world! Eternity album is #1 in this universe✨

[@mixx1pixx1]

Girl- You should take a close look at TXT. They have a very diverse discography, and generally fit the "no positions" that they have.

[@TheOneMOA]

And their line distribution is on point.

[@lunarialoonatic]

Their discography isn’t that impressive tho... they have a similar vibe throughout their eras...

[@mixx1pixx1]

@@lunarialoonatic How well do you know their discography lol. Plus, a similar "vibe" isn't a bad thing. It means an artist has a sound.

[@rjanegpl]

@@lunarialoonatici find you under every comment that says TXT are versatile.

[@iridescentbloom235]

@@lunarialoonatic no even going say anything right now .

[@niki5923]

1. Agreed, but they are improving so props to them for that. 2. Well, idk I'm asian, and Indian to be more specific and kpop is quite big here in India, like you can easily find 5-10 people around you that know about kpop sadly most of them are haters -_- 3. I think we haven't seen much summer concepts this year but I loved all of them maybe because I'm a sucker for summer concepts idk. 4. Agree but I believe Loona, Got7, BTS and even Shinee have quite diverse discography and switch concepts a lot. 5. Tbh I'm honestly tired of these two words "underrated" and "overrated" they are honestly so overused. 6. PERIODT. 7. Lol never thought about this but yeah agree. 8. Disagree. I personally love collabs. how is it crowded with 4 member group with 1 featured artists like its 5 people when we have groups with 12-13 members 9. AGREED. I personally don't like heavy instrumentals but "noise"? 10. Finally someone said it. Yes yes yes-

[@irakulkarni5445]

I'm an Indian too! And most people ik, know kpop here. And yeah, SHINee 's discography is so diverse!!! I feel like it's rare for me to find a gen z appreciating SHINee. And it upsets me.

[@slamdunkproductions8349]

I agree with all your opinions 💞

[@reveorbit]

aw thank you :)

[@chaelisa3331]

It's actually amazing how Tzuyu improved her vocal. Like she was chosen by jyp just bc she was pretty and the public loved her, and now she sang sometimes important part of their song like the chorus

[@miawast1425]

1)AGREEED 2) I dont live in america so i dont know. 3) More and more was bad. Dumdi Dumdi was cute and thats it. Havent listened to other summer songs. Im waiting for red velvet ot5 summer comeback 4) Factss. Red velvet legends. Red velvet best group. Red velvet queens. Red velvet icons. Red velvet dont have the POTENTIAL to be versatile, they ARE versatile. 5) I feel like ppl should use under appreciated more than underrated. Regarding the overrated opinion, imo overrated means when ur talent in ur job or whatever ur job requires u to do does not match ur hype. For example ur a terrible actor and all the movies u are in are garbage yet ur the most popular, then i might consider u overrated. Imo OVERHYPED means that ur talent does match ur hype. and u deserve it BUT ur fans can hype up the smallest things, and act like everything small thing u do is perfection 6) Twitter and tiktok is straight up clownery. Ive taken a 2 week break from twitter and honestly, i genuinely think my mental health became better. Twitter also has an obsession with cancel culture 7) Agreed. 8) I dont rlly mind features, as long as the song is good 9) Why is noise used as an insult in the first place lmao 10) It so obvious who has which positions too, just give them positions lmao Loved ur opinions lmao

[@reveorbit]

yes under appreciated, I wish I would’ve thought of that word for the video!! thank you for sharing!! :)

[@shidhantrai3507]

No 5) I agree I agree I agree! RV Queens of versatility and Discography! But there are still many k groups who are versatile too like mamamoo etc but I think RV is just on another level and it will take lots and lots of ideas and different innovative concepts to catch up with the RV Queens!

[@janetumukoro7126]

It’s okay to not like a song, but saying a song is bad is a bit harsh, other then that I agree with you

[@miawast1425]

@@janetumukoro7126 Oh i was talking about the era in general, the song itself isnt THAT bad (except the rapping tho)

[@itzyago3484]

Mia Wast rap is good tho

[@vladtzu]

I think Tzuyu has had a tremendous improvement since Sixteen!! She is now at a point where she can almost be a lead vocal, but that could really happen only if Nayeon and Jeongyeon join Jihyo as main vocalists... Also, we been knew that Momo should have been a lead rapper, but in my opinion, if she trained more in this area, Tzuyu could have been a rapper too!! Each rap she had amazed me...She has a really good flow!! I'd love it if she gets rap lines in the future!

[@_nicholette]

8:10 lemme just say that i absolutely agree with your opinion on this one. western artists collaborating with k-groups that already have so many members are so overwhelming. sometimes i feel like SOME artists just do it for the fame and because it's the 'in'. and members who don't speak english fluently hardly sing in those songs making them feel left out. for me personally, a great example of this is svt's joshua and dk's collab with pink sweats. the song made them shine individually and it's not overwhelming 'cause there are only 3 people singing

[@merykhan97]

THANK YOU FOR CALLING OUT STAN TWT OMG also fake accounts. Am a multi. Watching BLINKs and ARMYs fight is really becoming too much. Also i agree with everything you said. Cudos to you for being so woke and respectful.

[@summerpeach3389]

I'm glad there are people like you who know what an "unpopular opinion" means

[@YeriPotter]

1. I love Twice but I definitely agree, also JYP really doesn't seem to be doing much to help them improve as vocalists. 2. I also live in the US but I know quite a few people who do like kpop. But if you asked an average person about kpop I feel like they would only know about BTS and maybe Blackpink. I feel like kpop has more of a presence in more diverse areas but the typical American probably wouldn't know much about it. 3. I kind of agree, I usually think summer is the time where girl groups really shine but the concepts are getting kind of repetitive. For once I found myself enjoying boy group summer releases more since the concepts felt more original (SF9 and ONF especially impressed me!) 4. This is just a fact 😌 Though I'd also say CLC, Mamamoo, EXO, SF9, SHINee, and SNSD always surprise me with their concepts as well! Maybe not to the extent of Red Velvet but still enough to keep me interested lol 5. AGREE, people really say groups like Mamamoo are underrated when they're actually super popular? Just because a group isn't in the big three doesn't mean a lot of people don't still appreciate them lol 6. This is why I'm too scared to get a Twitter 😅 7. Hmmm idk... any new group is going to suddenly have to perform in front of a ton of people when they debut so I don't know if this is all that different? Sure there still might be a bit of a shock but I guess that's what their training period was for. 8. I kind of agree and kind of disagree. I feel like if an artist works well with the sound that a group has it could be really good but I am getting a bit tired of Western collabs. It would also help if the featured artist was able to do something that the group wouldn't excel at on their own (for example, f(x) had a song with Zico a while ago which I really liked since I don't consider any of them to be strong rappers) 9. I mean I kind of get what people are getting at but it feels a bit... rude? Everyone has their own tastes. 10. I don't particularly care if a member has a position or not but it's definitely obvious which members excel more in different areas in their performances. Great video! You have a nice way of explaining each of your points!

[@rozina8929]

I like you 🥺 You actually give out real constructive criticism. Some other youtubers make these videos just to straight up hate and/or cause controversies. Also, I feel like it's become a trend to hate on Twice for their vocals. Twice make fun bubblegum pop music. They don't have to hit the highest or the lowest notes. Their music is there just to make you smile. I feel like everyone is missing the point. AND They are NINE. It's so unrealistic to expect every single member to know how to dance AND sing AND rap. Of course, in every group, there's always at least that one member that does it all. But shouldn't we put more energy into praising that member and the whole group? Instead of hating on idols for not being perfect? Because literally no one is?

[@siennalee8044]

yessss queen

[@aoinguin]

*My opinion:* People usually overlook JYP idols because they generally have brighter image but people like darker stuffs.

[@sodium_hypochlorite104]

This may be the best kpop opinions video I've seen. No rudeness just for the sake of being "brutally honest", just respectfully expressed points. Love u 💕

[@reveorbit]

sunggyunique aww thanks so much!!

[@anon20902]

1. Agree 100% (love them but this is so true) 2. uhmmm idkkkk 3. disagree i love them :) (completely respect your opinion tho) 4. Agree, i think (g)i-dle is very versatile too! 5. YESSS AGREE SO MUCH 6. Agree so much, that's why i left twitter 3 months ago!! 7. Agree 8. Agree!! (Love how you explain this one) 9. Agree, it's annoying!! 10. Agree!!

[@user-li1yu3sy9t]

the narrator's voice is so calming bro i dont even have to focus on what she's saying, imma listen to this to fall asleep

[@shidhantrai3507]

No 4) I have to agree that Red Velvet aka Billboard’s best Idol Group Alive are the most Versatile Group who are currently promoting! I mean look at Zimzalabim and how they pull off that rollar coaster concept with those 2gen yet innovative beats! Then you have bad boy a r&b then peekaboo dance pop the list goes on and their b-side tracks I mean I feel sorry for ppl who haven’t given it a chance like listen to LP a Jazzy b-side track! I can go on and on Also Twice has really improved over time and stop coming for Momo because she might break ur neck cause she the main dancer(top3) in the industry sooo Respect!

[@milkman3873]

i agree with a lot of this but i think that it really depends on where you live in america when it comes to kpops popularity. back when i first got into kpop, 2015, nobody knew about it. by around 2018 it got way more popular, target sells bts (obviously) blackpink, nct, monsta x, etc. albums and their are stores like newbury comics that sell albums from litterally every group imaginable. when i was in highschool i was a member of a kpop club and had an entire friendgroup of kpop fans. i really think our country is so big that it depends on where you live, but most people where i live know about kpop (i live in a city in the north east btw)

[@desflores7202]

Twice are my ults and I can see where you're coming from. Like they're extremely talented but it's obvious that not all of them were trained as vocalists at first. But JYP said himself that he looks for personality over talent and that talent can be learned but personality can't

[@Emma-xm9gb]

bruh i’m not even a kpop stan... but i keep coming back to these videos... they’re so ENTERTAINING

[@anweshadash6327]

Along with redvelvet , I feel mamamoo is also very versatile....even in all of their solos they are very versatile

[@reallifebella14]

This is kind of late, but I do think K-pop’s American popularity is also based a lot on where in America you live. I live in a very large city, and there are a lot of K-pop fans here. Walmart and Target sell multiple different groups albums, we have a few K-pop stores, stores like Hot Topic sell a lot of different group shirts, and there is even a K-pop night at some bars. I would agree that K-pop is not super popular in American (pretty much just BTS), but I do think where you live in America makes a difference.

[@tyunxo]

I wouldn't say TXT is underrated, but they are definitely underappreciated and over-hated :((

[@selenevandernix9353]

I think BigHit debuted them in the wrong time just as SM did with NCT, who also hasn't made nearly the amount of success and money as their older-brother-groups... SM should have had debuted a +10 member girl group, to fill the void being left from SNSD... But JYP did that and now has the new nation's girl group... BigHit was going to have a girl group but yeah we all know what happened

[@T_Cup]

You articulated your points well, were incredibly fair and I totally understand where you’re coming from with each point. While I respect your opinions, I only take slight issue with points 4 and 8, and here's why. 4. You’re right. But imo Red Velvet’s versatility works against them more than it works for them. Because every song is so different, plus they have red songs and velvet songs, they don’t have a signature sound that people can easily identify. Also, their wildly varied concepts appear disconnected and amateurish at times. I think that’s why people have favourite individual songs or concepts, but don’t fully stan the group, and why they haven’t reached the popularity of other major Kpop groups even though they clearly have the talent. 8. It depends how big the group is. When there are only 4 members, like with Blackpink, it’s easy to integrate one other person’s vocals in. The only reason some of their collabs haven’t worked well is because they didn’t sound like true collaborations, not because of the amount of vocalists on the track. However, for a group like, say, BTS and its 7 members, you already have 7 people vying for vocals on a 4 minute song. That’s where adding another vocalist gets crowded, messy and, frankly, pointless.

[@darrell3005]

loona also giving me red velvet in the making vibes. you NEVER know what they’ll comeback as they don’t really have a “sound”.

[@Jaboooeyiii]

Twice is an amazing group. Im a once, I LOVE aLL of THeM. But they're not as proficient in singing as they are in dancing, They're not phenomenal singers, but they're some of the most phenomenal dancers in kpop.

[@miraflorsins1209]

We should not forget that twice members have there own position in the group but I totally agreed on what she say I know that sana Momo tzuyu dahyun don't have the best vocal in Kpop industry but for me there vocals are just fine and for those people saying that those four wonderful girls doesn't deserve to be an idol a little reminder again that they have roles in the group so let me educate you again lead vocals are the 2yeon and lead dancer is mimo and rap line dubucheng and visual are sana and tzuyu (even though all of them have crazy visual ) and we cannot forget God jihyo which is the leader so it's 9 or nothing baby they are the perfect balance group when it comes to roles and that's a fact hunty but the t is jyp because he's neglecting his money maker and acting like nothing, even though twice was the one who puts food in the table when he's hungry.

[@captainbeidou]

Your right.

[@vy575]

people expect too much. Not all members needs to be perfect and strong vockalists. 3 members is enough

[@kemii_io706]

Agree

[@user-li1yu3sy9t]

i agree red velvet is literally the most versatile girl group but along with them, (g)i-dle is also reallly versatile with their concepts and talented. i would say they are so under recognized instead if underrated because people still dont know about their music and i'm pretty sure if they listen to their songs you'd love them

[@chiara9224]

Do you know the older sisters of (G)I-DLE, CLC? They are def so versatile, but sadly, so underrated

[@user-li1yu3sy9t]

@@chiara9224 yes i know CLC although im not so into their music, i agree they are also very versatile

[@chiara9224]

@@user-li1yu3sy9t if you don't like their music it's okay, but it is so sad how few are the people who knows how much CLC is versatile. If they were more popular everybody would call them "Versatility queens" and stuff

[@randomsheep1165]

I totally agree about the no positions thing. Honestly I think some fans act like if their group doesn't have position it means they're all just so so talented, but in reality they're just the same as every other group who will have a handful of members who are tone dead and only there for their looks anyway

[@vie9493]

1. I totally agree (I'm so proud of Tzuyu and Santa's improvement) 2. I live in Japan, so I can't really comment on this (bb why are you dissing Orange Caramel-) 3. I adore summer concepts, but this year's summer songs are getting boring (Red Velvet where you at? I need a summer bop) 4. Oh yeah. Red Velvet's concepts are always all over the place (this isn't a bad thing) and I love guessing what their next concept will be. 5. Finally someone said it. 6. I don't have Twitter, but I've seen screenshots etc. and I have no clue what's going on there. 7. I see where you're coming from, but I can think of two or three new groups that are killing it. I do understand what you mean tho, I fear for baby groups when fans come back. 8. When they're a smaller group (eg: Itzy, BlackPink) , I don't mind too much, but if it's a bigger group (Stray Kids, NCT, Twice, The Boyz, SVT) then the line distribution is even worse. 9. I really like the 'noise' genre, and don't like when someone describes a song as 'noise'. 10. Someone please explain the lack of positions in some groups. When I learn a new group, I get confused as hell.

[@reveorbit]

Ennik Nakamura ahh I didn’t mean to diss orange caramel! I just used them as an example because a lot of people in the west imagine kpop to be weird like that bc our first popular exposure was psy’s Gangnam style

[@vie9493]

@@reveorbit It's alright lol. I don't stan them, but they are iconic.

[@T355V]

I agree that Red Velvet is super versatile, but you should check out Mamamoo's Piano Man, Taller Than You, You're the Best, Hip, and Destiny. (Also their newest release) They have been going for more mature concepts lately, but they are also super versatile and have done many concepts 😇💙

[@tamanna5918]

My unpopular opinion: Most of this year's releases have been pretty generic and we took 2018 for granted :')

[@renedollz]

Sadly I joined the kpop fandom this year like around April so I didn’t get to experience the golden age of Kpop which is back in 2018 :’)

[@Mulukan57]

At least this year is better than last year to me

[@selenevandernix9353]

@@renedollz you have over 10 years of catching up to do lol recommend you start with BoA's Eat you up, Lee hyori's U-go-girl and Wonder Girls's So Hot. For male there's Epik High's Fan, Love Love Love and Paris

[@Domi-uu9rl]

about the twice vocal thing: i disagree in specific about sana she has being singing some of the same parts that nayeon, jihyo,.. sing too one example is "like a fool" in their debut album of course she didn't sing her lines as great as the other members (she even cracked her voice in the showcase) but i think her voice has been great since debut she had struggles with projection (mostly due to hate) but has strong points as well (such as her tone) i just think she is a solid vocalist in twice, but it isn't showcased properly

[@abigailcarcueva2624]

"Just because you don't like a group or their music doesn't mean their overrated just because a lot of other people do." GURL THANKS! that will be my line everytime I saw tweets about my faves being overrated!!

[@xorchid5201]

I like how you shared your opinions *respectfully*

[@ere2946]

I don’t know why so many people hate ICY i just love it, I listen so much to it. It was so catchy and a whole bop💜

[@selenevandernix9353]

I don't really dig the flow nor the double usage of "icy" with "I see"... Can't explain why... But glad for them that it was a well known comeback nonetheless

[@yeofied]

I love icyy

[@straysquirrel367]

1) Agree I think we all know this. There are a few who aren’t the best and singing but they normally make up for it in other things such as dancing and rapping 2) Agree I guess? I’m British and it still isn’t hugely popular here too. Also love Orange Caramel they are queens! 3) Agree I never liked summer concepts to begin with tbh. I’m more of a dark concept person 4) I don’t know since I don’t stan Red Velvet. I can think of many other versatile groups besides Red Velvet though 5) Agree most people don’t know what the word underrated even means these days. Most people misuse the word overrated too, probably more so 6) Agree I deleted my Twitter because of toxic stans I’d much rather listen to music and be happy 7) I haven’t listened to many 2020 rookie groups but yeah I agree in a way they won’t have proper practice onstage 8) Mostly agree I like collabs with other kpop artists more than Western collabs 9) Agree as a Stay I’ve experienced people say this about Stray Kids and it makes me so mad 10) Agree when they have positions it makes it so much easier to get to know the group and each of the members talents

[@miawast1425]

Omg a fellow brit

[@reveorbit]

thank you for sharing!! people say itzy’s music is noise music too, so maybe people just don’t like the music style of jyp’s newer groups? and I do agree with the features opinion too I like when they collab with other kpop artists

[@straysquirrel367]

reveorbit yeah I don’t understand what noise music means. It’s pretty disrespectful to the idols and the producers who worked hard to create the song 😑

[@laylashaikh7446]

@@straysquirrel367 IKR! To the people who say that, "CAN YOU DO ANY BETTER?"

[@swagless5323]

as someone who lives in an extremely diverse area and a bigger city, I know tons of people that like kpop and literally all of my friends like it. so for me, yeah kpop is big. but i feel like if u live in the more conservative areas of america there is def not as much kpop hype. i think its rly specific like chicago prolly has tons of kpop fans as its just a really developed part of america and pretty much all of california, new york, those states have a lot more kpop hype than say, oklahoma.

[@user-bear27]

There is another summer BOP I would like to recommend! Its Hyolin's "Say my name". Its such a good song and nobody really talks about it.

[@selenevandernix9353]

Everything she does is great and nobody talks about it "/

[@mmyul]

i kinda agree with the twice opinoin, but the members that you mentioned are apart of the vocal line so obviously they arent going to be as well or trained as much in the singing aspect.

[@juliajodon]

I feel like when people in america say “noise” they’re talking about the backtrack thing (I’m not sure what it’s called) cuz it’s not as common in America

[@nililajuli270]

But I mean. The just don't have a good Sense of humour like music itself is made out of noises, I composed a whole song by scratching paper and these people consider a backtrack as noise, WTH?

[@juliajodon]

Nili Lajuli facts tho lol

[@ashnickynventura1137]

AND NUMBER 6!! Girl I love you, I’m gonna subscribe like you are saying pure facts

[@anav8134]

twice doesn’t get enough recognition for their bsides, i feel like fancy you / feel special are the only albums that people talk about when we have masterpieces like signal & twicegram

[@areeshanm]

the opinion about no fixed opinions is so true!! i feel like companies market groups like that just to have another reason for the group to be ‘different’. if your going to have a group like that, actually stick to it,, like have member ‘a’ sing in one comeback but then rap in the next, show the versatility of the group. groups have no fixed position yet you could probably very clearly guess the positions of each member!!

[@samanthatoussaint6678]

1.i agree that not all twice members sound the best vocally but they have improved a lot. 2.i agree kpop is not big in America. The biggest it’s probably ever gonna get are bts and black pink. And ppl I know, knows how kpop is right now and admit it’s cool but they can’t get past not understanding what the idols are saying. 3.summer concepts are generic sometimes but for me as long as the song is a bop I don’t have a problem with it. I only end up watching the mv once or twice. 4.red velvet is in my top 5 favorite gg because their songs are unpredictable and I like that. They always come out with different concepts and sounds and are not afraid to be experimental. I wish a lot more groups were like this. 5.The most used and misinterpreted words of 2019-2020 were overrated, underrated, and canceled. Let’s not bring that into 2021 plz and thank you. 6.i was never part of Stan twitter but I’ve heard a lot of problems starts from there. When I hear about how problems started I literally face palm because people are either sensitive or childish. 7.i agree that Idols that debut in 2020 are not ready for fame because for now there’s no audience to perform in front of and no concerts . But I feel like they were already trained to perform in front of ppl. 9.Noise isn’t a good word to describe songs because I’m pretty sure producers and idols didn’t work hard just to release noise. Just say that the instrumental isn’t for you or if it’s too much for you. 10.I can’t really explain it for some reason but I just think groups should have positions.

[@reveorbit]

yeah with the positions one I totally get what you mean, like it’s hard to explain but I just like it better when they have positions. I love hearing your perspective, thank you! :)

[@chiara9224]

4. Well you should check CLC. Listen to Devil, then to No oh oh, then to Hobgoblin, then to Where are you? The real versatility queens.

[@oddaardvark7733]

I find it really interesting that K-Pop isn’t huge in America. It doesn’t surprise me at all, but it’s interesting, because here in the UK, I know a LOT of people who listen to K-Pop. I honestly didn’t expect it. I became a BlackPink fan just before Ice Cream came out, so fairly recently, and I mentioned it in passing to some of my friends, and it turns out about half of my Primary School Class, most of my friends, and, most of the boys in my form, though they’d never admit it like K-Pop. I’m not sure if it’s just a nerd thing though... because, I go to a grammar school, and almost everybody knows about K-Pop, even if they don’t like it, and even after all that, they do actually enjoy listening to it! Whereas, if I go to swimming, basically nobody listens to it. Or has any interest/takes any enjoyment in it. I understand what you mean about the stigma, however. Despite being surrounded by many K-Pop fans, I still get embarrassed when someone outs me. My best-friend used to make slightly insensitive jokes based on the presumption that K-Pop was exactly like the clip you showed, when it’s not. I hope the stigma goes away, however, because I genuinely believe most people would love K-Pop. On a different note, your videos are amazing, I really enjoy watching them. Keep it up! :)

[@aceseulgii4752]

"summer concepts are getting boring" OMG- *bring back summer RED VELVET, iconic*

[@rhi967]

i 100% agree with you on the western kpop popularity opinion. i know one other person who likes the same groups as me (like loona, red velvet, stray kids, weki meki, etc) everyone else just likes bts and blackpink. MAYBE ateez. i'm glad bts and blackpink are popular bc they deserve it, i just wish i found more people who are huge multistans like me and have more variety :')

[@cyndixx]

Congrats you’re the first youtuber who’s done this without me wanting to push you off a cliff, thank you sm for being respectful

[@zahungrysloth]

i agree with the no positions one but txt is truly an exception to that imo

[@ithinkmynameisjamie8861]

the only group that I've actually seen be widely known in the west is bts other groups tend to live in their shadow

[@butnamjoongunshot2510]

Yup but idk why people hate cuz of that

[@taissasantos718]

You're so polite, I usually don't like unpopular opinions videos cause the lack of it, just like you said at the begining, an unpopular opinion doesn't have to be rude

[@ere2946]

I agree with the summer one, like there are years that we don’t have a lot of summer comebacks and this year so much. I want Horror concepts like Nature did with girls or Halloween concepts too. And this is the first year that we don’t have in years a redvelvet summer concept, and like summer without redvelvet doesn’t feel the same (even if in my country is winter😂😂)

[@aco1213]

when she talked about stan twt ( and clc at the background) i remember cheshires vs. antis on twt

[@chaepew1949]

Here's mine, and I've said this before Shippers aren't the reason we don't get interactions. For eg. Naeun was hated a lot for being 'married' to Taemin, had people shipped them normally like Sungjae and Joy, all of those could've been avoided. It's because they don't want hate bandwagons towards their significant others from jealous possessive fans. Also they saying, 'they're uncomfortable' bish no idol has said they're uncomfortable unless they get shipped with their own members (Taehyung about taekook). Y'all are just assuming things, that's like saying, 'but they might be uncomfortable with the color red' there's no actual proof.

[@ayblablabla]

When did Tae said he is uncomfortable get shipped with Gguk? They came up with their ship name? I'm literally asking for source of information. When and where?

[@chaepew1949]

@@ayblablabla on weverse he asked fans for tips on how to sleep quicker, a fan commented 'you could look at Jungkook's pics who he loves' Tae responded, 'come out of your imagination, it's not good there' with this emoji 🙋‍♀️ It was last year November

[@ayblablabla]

@@chaepew1949 People said that sentence is two sided though. Girl said "im sleeping while looking at Jungkook's pictures who you love" to Tae and we dont know if Tae directed his words at the "sleeping while looking at pics" part or "jungkook you love" and it's most likely said for the "sleeping while looking at pics" part because they never said they are uncomfortable being called Taekook or something like that. and whether or not you ship them Tae loves Gguk? Like? Romantically or not he loves him? why would he say something like that to the that part of the context?

[@ddaeng3952]

1. Idk I started stanning twice recently and for what I understood JYP forces artist to sing in a certain way (lia from itzy is an example). For what I heard (like twice cover of Move by Taemin) Momo and Dahyun are actually pretty good singers. 2. In Italy no one knows even BTS. Well I think some people knows, but in TV they talk about kpop so they do some publicity. 3. I consider summer songs, songs that come out in summer. Like Dynamite, Idol, Icy etc... idk I don't stan a lot of groups 4. Don't come at me I don't stan a lot of groups, but BTS actually change their concept with comebacks. Like one day is Idol, the next day is Bwl and then we have ON 5. idk 6. I agree. 7. I agree 8. ahhh I don't know. 9. I know??? I stan Itzy and Skz and their music wasn't really my type? but now I like it? 10. absolutely agree

[@jaessoul]

No one seems to focus on what Twice can actually do tho, people just go out of their way to only listen to their singing and call them untalented.

[@leeminhomademestraightagai4134]

fr they have some of the best dance lines and stage presence in kpop, and have no weak dancers/performers.

[@kemii_io706]

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[@fangirlinneverland6335]

I agreed with everything,I loved how you seemed very smart, respectful and spoken with the argument if that makes sense lol

[@bossbi0tch132]

ikr.

[@blackpinkinurarea7798]

8:54 i agree with this so much! when ppl say things like 'itzy should switch their concept their just making noise with the whole im different concept' im just like wth music isnt just noise

[@wawawawawa8009]

No matter whether I agree or disagree with you, I want to thank you for doing your own voiceover and not using a bot. It’s super refreshing to hear and it really adds more to a message when you can hear someone’s vocal intonations and tone. I just found you but I look forward to more videos! 💕

[@EmeraldCDoha]

for the last opinion, what do you think about TXT? They don’t have fixed positions yet they have good line distribution and the members are well rounded. Just wondering, not trying to hate ☺️

[@tiredsleepyteen5076]

This is the only unpopular opinions video that I have sat and watched throughout. I love how there is no unnecessary hate or anything. And I agree with all your opinion. I subbed rn❤️