UNTHINKABLE: C8 ZR1 will have a SUPERCHARGED & TURBO Engine

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@TheDetailLabTx
@TheDetailLabTx 5 ай бұрын
Twin charge would be wild
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yes it would. Definitely unthinkable
@HorsePowerObsessed
@HorsePowerObsessed 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting speculation here! Would be awesome to see Chevy do something like this!! Great research!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
It would be great to see. A big “sign off” for Tadge
@terryfrederick670
@terryfrederick670 5 ай бұрын
Either way, great discussion!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@PatrickFugate-qk7ev
@PatrickFugate-qk7ev 5 ай бұрын
I think you are correct…your theory is very well explained..So much more information than others 👏🏽👏🏽
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I wanted to be thorough, otherwise everyone would have claimed it was just click bait
@vettesweetnos
@vettesweetnos 5 ай бұрын
Very well could be right. I also think an LT3 is coming, that's a dohc cpc V8.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yep I think that is coming as well
@jcisalivetoday
@jcisalivetoday 5 ай бұрын
You raise good points. It certainly would be "unthinkable" in many aspects
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Indeed it would be unthinkable
@StephenCornelius
@StephenCornelius 5 ай бұрын
Here is what is going to be, The Z06 engine but cross plane crank instead of flat plane crank and twin turbo. I bet you 1 taco.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
If so, I will pay you one taco 😅
@HorsePowerObsessed
@HorsePowerObsessed 5 ай бұрын
100% my thoughts as well!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
But really I’m saying the same thing, but also with a small e-supercharger
@bullycat_kickz5198
@bullycat_kickz5198 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanchso no flat plane crank then? You spoke of a high compression engine being what the SC Turbo was patented for so is the 5.5 liter engine high compression with either a FPC or CPC? I think it’s a flat plane crank engine either way because I don’t see GM spending the millions and millions of dollars on R&D to only use the FPC 5.5L in only one car unless they planned to sell hundreds of thousands of C8 Z06’s which ain’t happening.
@polystictus
@polystictus 3 ай бұрын
@@bullycat_kickz5198 How many flat plane crank turboed engines over 4L do you know of? Ferrari...McLaren...Lamborghini....? They don't work well.....
@jonwheelis2037
@jonwheelis2037 5 ай бұрын
I just ran the engine description through ChatGPT with this results: User LT7-ENGINE GAS, 8CYL, 5.5L, DI, VVT, AFM, SC TURBO, DOHC ChatGPT It seems like you're referring to a specific type of engine specification. Let me break down what each of these abbreviations typically stands for: LT7: This seems to be a designation for a particular engine model or series. ENGINE GAS: Indicates that it's a gasoline-powered engine. 8CYL: Indicates that it's an 8-cylinder engine. 5.5L: Refers to the engine displacement, which is 5.5 liters. This is the volume swept by all the pistons inside the cylinders. DI: Stands for Direct Injection, which means fuel is directly injected into the combustion chamber. VVT: Stands for Variable Valve Timing, a technology that adjusts the timing of the opening and closing of the engine's valves for better performance and efficiency. AFM: Stands for Active Fuel Management, also known as cylinder deactivation. This system allows the engine to deactivate some cylinders under light load conditions to improve fuel efficiency. SC TURBO: Indicates that it's both supercharged (SC) and turbocharged (TURBO). This is somewhat unusual, as supercharging and turbocharging achieve similar goals (increasing engine power) through different means. It's possible this is a theoretical or conceptual designation rather than a common engine configuration. DOHC: Stands for Dual Overhead Camshaft, indicating that the engine has two camshafts per cylinder bank, one to operate the intake valves and one for the exhaust valves. Combining all these features, you have a high-performance, gasoline-powered engine with a large displacement, direct injection, variable valve timing, cylinder deactivation for improved fuel efficiency, both supercharged and turbocharged, and featuring dual overhead camshafts for efficient valve operation.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Holy cow, my mind is blown! I just checked and got the same result. Either ChatGPT is using transcript from my video, or it knows something we don’t
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Go ask if “What type of engine will the C8 ZR1 have?” 😯
@TheWityful
@TheWityful 5 ай бұрын
I think you’re onto something but I think this tech my be reserved for the Zora. It’ll already be a performance hybrid
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I would have thought so too, but the name LT7 is the key here. 99% sure the LT7 is going in the ZR1, and this info is tied to the LT7
@dlang1009
@dlang1009 5 ай бұрын
I think GM spent to much time, effort and $$ on the flat plane crank to not use it in the ZR1? Maybe a new version DOHC non flat plane? But on the other hand I see the reasoning why they would not use this platform? Hopefully we find out soon. 4:44
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, but they’ve done similar with engines in the past. Plus, I think GM will put the LT6 into their crate engine program and it’ll live on for many years after the C8 is gone.
@BrinkofSpeed
@BrinkofSpeed 5 ай бұрын
Brother, great video, great investigative reporting! I think you may be on to something Clayton! 😊💪
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Thanks amigo! I was right about the ZR1 wheel leak, the Z06 build start leak and the Eray visualizer leak. This would be the biggest one yet 🌮
@Viper3048
@Viper3048 5 ай бұрын
I think he's onto something as well. This is something that nobody would think that they would do. Some would call that "unthinkable" 🤔
@daveallan2988
@daveallan2988 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your time. I’d hate to think someone would criticize you for your opinion. Keep up the good work.
@mikefarr9935
@mikefarr9935 5 ай бұрын
I think you are onto to something. I think you are spot on 5.5 with sc and turbo. The sound says so. It's also Tadge's legacy, it's going to be a wild machine. GM has the technology to do this. Other super cars will have old school tech!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Sure would be a great thing to go out with for Tadge
@jerryhawk8434
@jerryhawk8434 2 ай бұрын
The ZR1 sounds like a F1 race car and I lv it
@polystictus
@polystictus 3 ай бұрын
"The unthinkable coming..." I'm pretty skeptical of most projections but I like your thinking. Unthinkable would be something unusual, out of the ordinary. Both supercharged AND turbocharged would certainly fall into that category and your reasoning on it's aid to performance makes sense. DOHC crossplane is what I expect and would bet on it. 5.5L turboed flat plane is so unlikely...all the big boys seem to top out at 4L for turboed flat planes. I really don't see GM dropping cubic inches. I recall a comment from GM that the ZR1 would have substantial HP. That tells me maybe around 850 or more. A special induction system just might easily bring that.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 3 ай бұрын
We will see. Something interesting is coming for sure
@Spartan620
@Spartan620 5 ай бұрын
Well thought out, great research, seems probable to me!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Probable for sure 👍
@Spartan620
@Spartan620 5 ай бұрын
Honestly your math checks out here in a ton of ways, and to your point, nothing is “unthinkable” about slapping a turbo or a supercharger on an existing engine. They “shocked” us before with the Z06 engine, they tried to do it again with the E-Rays innovation, we are fools to think something groundbreaking wouldn’t take place for this hype and the (inevitably super enormous) price point.
@Viper3048
@Viper3048 5 ай бұрын
AWESOME video! This is the first video I've seen from you, and you earned my sub even if you're wrong. There is a very strong case for your speculation, and I never put that together before now. When I saw the video pop up in my feed, I got a rush of excitement at the prospect of this being a possibility. I won't lie. At first, I thought it was just a bs clickbait video like so many others. However, after hearing your argument paired with the evidence you showed, I'm with you. I think this may actually be the real deal. I congratulate you on being the first one to bring this to light. When I watched the ZR1 teaser, I was stumped at the word "unthinkable" as well. I thought to myself, "What could THAT mean?". This would explain it! I couldn't be more excited for this car... GM is always surprising everyone with Corvette. Great work! 🔥🔥🔥
@Viper3048
@Viper3048 5 ай бұрын
Also, this DOES explain the sound being so different from what everyone was expecting. That gives this speculation even MORE validity. I'm giddy! 😁
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I really appreciate your comments here. I felt the same thing when I saw that last week, so I just starting looking around and then the dots started to connect
@bullycat_kickz5198
@bullycat_kickz5198 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanchI do think you may be right on this but I still say it’s the flat plane crank version of the 5.5L V8 because who’s to say that GM didn’t alter the sound of the exhaust in the teaser video in the same fashion they did at Nuremberg with the downward facing exhaust tips? Just saying, they could really be trolling us to throw us off the scent prior to them fully unveiling it.
@doughooks7411
@doughooks7411 5 ай бұрын
Wow. Really interesting (and different) perspective and direction than what has been speculated by most. I do believe that something has to give with regard to how to manage the increase in horsepower, and your theory helps explain some of that. Like you, I am (hopefully) in a pretty good position for one from the dealer I got both my C8 Stingray and C8 Z06 from, but there are still many questions as to allocations and pricing. If this turns out to be anything like you described, we are all in for a wild ride…literally and figuratively. Great video and content, and now I am a subscriber. Thanks.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words. I agree it will be very wild if this is true
@killabee623
@killabee623 2 ай бұрын
Since they put a lot of money and R&D into the 5.5L I am sure they will use this for the ZR1 and Zora, they are in the super car realm..
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 2 ай бұрын
I think they will keep the 5.5L, but may modify it in some way to accommodate the forced induction safely.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 2 ай бұрын
I think they will keep the 5.5L, but may modify it in some way to accommodate the forced induction safely.
@strawmanx427
@strawmanx427 5 ай бұрын
I suppose anything is possible, with such crazy advancements, in current technology. But don't forget, even if it is the flat plane-crank, with a twin turbo setup; it will no longer sound like a flat planet crankshaft engine. Because, Turbo's muffle the exhaust sound.
@Thee_69
@Thee_69 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s a very good possibility and a great concept for why to have both
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
It’s sure would be pretty cool
@dhan219
@dhan219 5 ай бұрын
5.5 Cross plane with SC and TT = 900hp and no turbo lag
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yup. That’s what I’m seeing
@dlang1009
@dlang1009 5 ай бұрын
Good thinking and research. What ever they use will be on another level. I just hope it is not $200k plus.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I think it’ll start between 140-160, but add 3ZR trim and ZTK and you’ll be up to $180 quickly. Then add a few more options and, of course dealer markups and be ready to pay over $200
@davidr.hofstetter7301
@davidr.hofstetter7301 5 ай бұрын
An interesting take on the unthinkable. Some might be concerned if it is true, would the “high maintenance” be worth it to the typical customer? Ya, it would be worth it! 😂😂😂
@christhomas9842
@christhomas9842 5 ай бұрын
It would be amazing to see an actual SC on a twin turbo engine. Someone did it to a hellcat a few years ago for a giveaway .
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Many aftermarket applications. Hennessey did it with the Ford GT as well. But nothing to this performance scale from a manufacturer
@cleverusernamecl5532
@cleverusernamecl5532 4 ай бұрын
Volvo has had a single turbo and supercharged engine for nearly a decade.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 4 ай бұрын
@@cleverusernamecl5532 yes, I actually have a Volvo. But I said “at this performance scale”, meaning the Volvo is not built as a high performance high output engine like the ZR1 potentially would be
@cleverusernamecl5532
@cleverusernamecl5532 4 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch I wasn't replying to you. The 2l Volvo engine produces 181hp/l what do you think the ZR1 will make per liter?
@jokerface4491
@jokerface4491 5 ай бұрын
Supercharged at low RPM and big turbocharged at 4000 RPM.
@johnnyrock852
@johnnyrock852 5 ай бұрын
I would think the engine would be 5.5 cross-plane crank with twins. I would think GM might use some sort of electric motor to spin turbos earlier and disengage once turbos are at full boost on their own. Would save a lot weight. The patton is definitely a 4 banger engine. Compound boost is cool, but expensive to implement and maintain. It would be wild though.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe. We will see
@Hammerback0
@Hammerback0 5 ай бұрын
"The unthinkable"....its a Coyote engine. Compound boost is inefficient, not unthinkable. (IMO) Edit- Ive ran turbos, blowers, and nitrous, as you speak on compression, the engine compression will be lower than N/A because of fuel availability. The customer base cant get 93 octane around the country, let alone E-85, my bet is itll be part electric. Sure, they patent some twin charged system, but they havent reinvented the wheel. They patented a design specific to their application of the item, to curb other manufacturers from taking the design and marketing from it. Who knows. Hopefully i remember this when its released and can find you again, im not into vettes, and have zero interest in them, I am curious. Thanks for making us think a bit.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the well thought response. Hybridization has already been done, so there seems to be something more here. It may just be twin turbo, or maybe a combination with hybrid AWD. But none of that would warrant the word “unthinkable” since people have had that assumption for 5 years. I feel there is a surprise coming
@Hammerback0
@Hammerback0 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch agreed, its been done, but not to their flagship car. I guess the E-ray is somewhat a part of it, but the main seller to have an electric motor would be nothing short of blasphemy to the core base of the Chevrolet Corvette. When ford made the Mach-E, I was nothing short of offended, and I took it personally. Like Subaru is the "plaid shirt, burr hair cut" car of the manly lady crowd, i didnt want mustang associated with the silicone valley crowd of electric cars
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting except we have all seen Nurburgring testing videos that simply dont have the supercharger whine. The other problem is GM has so many engine patents FOR MILITARY APPLICATION, and thats what it sounds like. More than likely you only have to look back at Cadillacs original BLACKWING engine which has between cam turbos like AMG GTR setup. All that GM would have to do is configure that engine in larger displacement and oversquare. GM has so many options that whatever it is will be one of the best engines the world has ever seen Guaranteed.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I agree that the patent may not be for a car like this. I think there was suspicion of it being added to a 4-cylinder truck as well. But the stars align, so we will see.
@fadedsoul23
@fadedsoul23 3 ай бұрын
E superchargers are usually centrifugal and those don’t really whine or whistle at idle like a procharger because they aren’t that big
@trusttech9942
@trusttech9942 5 ай бұрын
I think you’re right!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe! We will see
@1985wildside
@1985wildside 5 ай бұрын
Oh man with tons of respect you are not quite right on the ZR1. Today 4/29/2004 I was on the phone with Walt Masko who does a lot of 90+% of the test driving for the Corvette and Black Wing Cars. Basically, I could tell you a whole bunch, but let’s stick to what the ZR1 will be. The ZR1 will be a flat plane crank with twin turbos. HOWEVER, you were not entirely wrong. GM had 3 engines that they put through some massive testing and them trying to figure out the best engine is the going to be a flat plane crank with a twin turbos. I am betting you were hearing the base model corvette engine punched out with an added 15 pounds of boost. This was a very close engine that almost made it into the car as the flat plane crank engine was actually starving for oil when and if you ran it wide open for a period of ten plus miles. Today, though the talk was the ZORA. We were talking about how to get the car from 4,000 to 3,600lbs. That is a big issue with GM as in COVID GM decided to cancel their order for the materials that make up their carbon fiber. So, like the Z06 that I have, one of 13 allocations given out. The ZORA will be a very rare car that will be made. GM is not going to make a car that the customer can cheap out when it comes to the ZORA and its power. For example, all ZORS cars that will be made will come with all the aerodynamics and the customer will pay for it. That goes for most of the car inside too. Carbon fiber and if you cannot afford it then, it is what it is. GM/Corvette is already saying 0-60 in 1.9 seconds, after today’s talk, look for that number to be 1.75 seconds, 0-60.
@jonwheelis2037
@jonwheelis2037 5 ай бұрын
I am personally hoping for a CPC engine to boost reliability over a FPC regardless of what type(s) of induction system Corvette engineering decides to use!!! The exhaust sounds of the supposed ZR1's at the Nurburgring Nordschleife testing & the ZR1 teaser video suggest a non FPC type design. Thanks for your sharp eyes and investigative mind!!!! "COME ON ZR1"
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
The strange part of those videos is some sound like CPC and some like FPC. I’ve heard they were testing more than just one car and powertrain. Maybe one was a Z06 and they will offer a ZTK package?
@TheDamonsta
@TheDamonsta 5 ай бұрын
I clicked on this video expecting to hear BS but hoping it actually delivered some hope and now after watching it I’m damn near convinced you’re right about it being twin charged
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe I should go get my law degree 😂
@Preston_Taylor
@Preston_Taylor 5 ай бұрын
TT Crossplane 5.5L.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
But just add on a electronically driven supercharged to supplement turbo lag
@jonwheelis2037
@jonwheelis2037 5 ай бұрын
I just asked ChatGPT : best guess as to the LT7 being a FPC or CPC & here bis its response: Based on current trends in automotive engineering and considering the potential performance goals of the LT7 engine, it's reasonable to speculate that it could be a CPC (Conventional Pushrod Cam-in-Block) engine rather than an FPC (Flat-Plane Crankshaft) engine. CPC engines, with their traditional overhead valve design and pushrod architecture, are often favored in applications where high torque and low-end grunt are priorities, which are characteristics often desired in high-performance American V8 engines like those found in the Corvette lineup. Additionally, the CPC design typically results in a more compact engine package, which can be advantageous for packaging within the Corvette's tight engine bay. While FPC engines are known for their high-revving capabilities and potential for higher peak power output, they often sacrifice low-end torque, which might not align with the performance goals of a high-performance Corvette model like the ZR1. However, this is still speculative, and the actual configuration of the LT7 engine will depend on various factors including GM's design goals, engineering decisions, and performance targets for the ZR1. Only official announcements from General Motors can confirm the engine's configuration definitively.
@g4do
@g4do 5 ай бұрын
I mentioned that i would spend money on a twin charged zr1 . But i also added that it should be hybrid as well. 1290 hp would be nice.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Regardless of the actual power plant, the need for AWD traction is going to be in question with this car. So I would welcome it for sure
@g4do
@g4do 5 ай бұрын
@SupercarRanch I agree , awd is a must for any gm , Ford or Dodge with horsepower exceeding 400 . I understand that their rwd muscle cars would weigh 1000 more pounds but just as Chevy copied Ferrari's flat plane crank V8 , they can also take a page from Porsche and design a V6 version with twin charging and use lots of carbon fiber, titanium and aluminum to achieve perfection in at least one of their models.
@Motleymick
@Motleymick 5 ай бұрын
I like the way you think. But if they did "twin charged" what does that leave for the Zora model, Quadro-twin- double charged? 😂
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Could be just slapping on an eray hybrid system or something else entirely
@billyhndrsn4542
@billyhndrsn4542 5 ай бұрын
There is already videos of Lingenfelter supercharging a ERay and also another tuner twin turbocharging a ERay, he expects high 900+ HP numbers. So the 5.5L DOHC 4 valves per cylinder, twin turbocharged with a electric motor hybrid front axle should push 1000+ for the Zora upcoming model. Interesting times to see what is produced.
@anthonygriffin6868
@anthonygriffin6868 5 ай бұрын
Makes sense to do an eAWD.. especially with an electric supercharger.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Could be. That would be great
@jackbrock9597
@jackbrock9597 5 ай бұрын
Makes a whole Lotta sense, but I just don’t know - thanks for the info
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
You are welcome. Got ya thinkin
@Trading-Freedom11
@Trading-Freedom11 5 ай бұрын
Turbos muffle the engines a lot. Even a flat crank v8 would be a lot quieter. Would be a crazy set up if they do both . Would be nice to get the e-ray awd system with the lt7 been a TT engine .
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
That would be great but unless this is the last iteration of the C8, I think they will save that for later
@TheAutoBelt
@TheAutoBelt 4 ай бұрын
this is a really interesting take, could be amazing if it comes
@arjr422
@arjr422 5 ай бұрын
I think it should ALSO have electric hybrid drive too!! To make it the COMPLETE monster!! All wheel drive like the eRay!!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Should, yes. If anything for traction. But I think they want to save that
@arjr422
@arjr422 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch for the Zora?
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Probably. That is if the Zora will still be a thing. There’s a little speculation that the ZR1 will still be the top dog and a Zora will be just a special edition package
@deweyford7869
@deweyford7869 5 ай бұрын
No no no. The Zora is still coming, Zora. That part can be used for the supercgarged ZR1 or turbochaeged ZORA
@v8behind
@v8behind 5 ай бұрын
If you are right this will be absolutely crazy
@christhomas9842
@christhomas9842 5 ай бұрын
The C8 Z06 has a level of supercharging in its intake system. Small but, it does .
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
It “forced” air in by way of tapering through runners and articulating the valves, but that is not at all “supercharging” and is nothing new
@RussellMasa
@RussellMasa 5 ай бұрын
It’s all just guessing at this point. I think the “part listing” is bogus. I can’t believe they will have VVT and AFM with a SC and Turbos, can’t believe it. All the “leaks” are BS and designed to mislead, either by GM or others. If that is a real ZR1 sound, it’s not a flat plane crank. Does make sense that they’d SC OR TC a cross plane motor though, especially if they plan on bringing out a Zora; THAT may be a double boosted engine with electric motors or a boosted flat plane motor with turbos. Who knows? Guess we’ll find out. Keep up the guessing. Lol
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Guessing for sure. But I don’t think that part leak was bogus at all it was taken down immediately after the article was published but the part was in AC DELCO’s catalog. They’ve made these slip ups before. VVT I can understand. AFM is a hard one. It’s either for fuel rating purposes only, or there is some other meaningful reason for it.
@redtesta
@redtesta 5 ай бұрын
Finale? Combustion isnt going away. We already have seen the push for electric and the infrastructure isnt close to handling it. Even Elon has said this. Best would be hybrids. Supercharger for low end immediate grunt and turbo to kick in on the upper.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
You’re right. What I meant was finale of 100% ICE engines. I’ve said for a while now that the C9 will be hybrid at minimum. I’ll go edit my comment in the description
@kheaslett
@kheaslett 4 ай бұрын
imagine that
@Cars-N-Jets
@Cars-N-Jets 5 ай бұрын
Supercharged E-Ray & Paragon are there with some cool Cars :)
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve got FOMO
@Cars-N-Jets
@Cars-N-Jets 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanchI do too. I saw the cars before they went to NCM.
@CrustRotch
@CrustRotch 5 ай бұрын
You compared a part naming convention to the engine naming convention lol youre reaching. I doubt twin charging because of the complexity of tuning that setup for a road car and reliability in all conditions. It would be cool though
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I did not. I aligned the engine naming conventions in how the ENGINE is described in the parts catalog. The part itself is irrelevant, it’s how the engine is displayed as the parts are assigned to it. And twin charging has been used be many OEMs in the past and is currently used successfully at scale by Volvo. It’s not that far fetched. But just has not been applied to this high level of an engine.
@gaddyify
@gaddyify 5 ай бұрын
It should have more than 850 hp if that's the case???
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Would have at least that for sure.
@christophermartin1978
@christophermartin1978 5 ай бұрын
It will be twin charge in the rear and electric in the front
@d2492540
@d2492540 5 ай бұрын
Twin turbo hybrid seems more likely. The hybrid system would eliminate the turbo lag.
@TheRealDarthVadar
@TheRealDarthVadar 4 ай бұрын
OK the C8 Z06 kicks almost "EVERYTHINGS" Ass to about 80 mph but runs out of umph the ZR1 with twin turbos and 180 more bhp / 390 more torque will never relinquish the lead that's a fact. And it will start with a even bigger lead then the Z06 given the ZR1 is supposed to run 0-60 in 2.1 seconds and the Z06 runs 2.6 give or take.
@Andoniscars
@Andoniscars 5 ай бұрын
great investigation. 1017
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@mikeeaton9822
@mikeeaton9822 5 ай бұрын
It would be totally awesome but it should push about 1000hp plus I could be wrong but I don't think so
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
It could. Or maybe still only 850ish, but also a way to out 650+ in low end torque at the same time
@mikeeaton9822
@mikeeaton9822 5 ай бұрын
@SupercarRanch even the twin turbo 5.5l dohc should push at 850hp with small turbos. The video sounds like a push rod V8. How knows?
@charlest5349
@charlest5349 3 ай бұрын
Why not the Z06 FPC motor in Eray?
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 3 ай бұрын
Are you saying why not make the ZR1 to have the Z06 engine and the E-Ray’s electric motor? If so, yeah that would be great. But I don’t think that’s that they are doing
@charlest5349
@charlest5349 3 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch Yes. Replace the 6.2 with the Z06 mill.
@gtr485
@gtr485 4 ай бұрын
The Z06 sounds like a Ferrari the ZR1 sounds like a McLaren…
@chrisyeahbuuwassrileegowyn9279
@chrisyeahbuuwassrileegowyn9279 5 ай бұрын
Legit video. I think you could be on to something here... Using a power source "similar" to the E-Ray driving a supercharger at low rpm's handing off to turbos?? Or something different😂
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Electronic driven SC, but not necessarily similar to a hybrid. Probably don’t need a larger lithium battery, but maybe just a larger alternator. But still more efficient than a belt driven supercharger
@fadedsoul23
@fadedsoul23 3 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanche superchargers require a 48v system which to my knowledge means a bigger or more powerful battery and probably a better alternator
@sipius22
@sipius22 5 ай бұрын
Hate the lag on the Turbos......that's why I no longer have a Porsche......once you go supercharger it's a let down.
@nrdemon1031
@nrdemon1031 5 ай бұрын
Interesting 🧐
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@Staypretending
@Staypretending 5 ай бұрын
Hell, why not just throw the e motor on the front too while we at!😅
@devonp5079
@devonp5079 5 ай бұрын
They will for the Zora
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
They might. Depends if they need to stretch out models with the Zora, grand sport, etc. if so, they will save that
@puffer4tw
@puffer4tw 5 ай бұрын
SC STANDS FOR SPLIT COMPRESSION. IT'LL HAVE TWIN SCROLL/SPLIT COMPRESSION TURBOS. DUAL CHARGED WOULD BE WAAAY TOO MUCH HEAT AND COMPLEXITY ON AN ALREADY COMPLEX ENGINE. AND EVEN MORE WEIGHT ON AN ALREADY HEAVY CORVETTE. IT WILL HAVE TRACK OVERBOOST MODE THOUGH. LIKE 20 MINUTES WITH A FEW MORE LBS OF BOOST AND MORE COOLING SPRAYING THE INTERCOOLERS. AND ACTIVE AERO THROUGH THE FRONT DAM/HOOD, ESSENTIALLY A DOOR THAT OPENS AND CLOSES ACCORDINGLY
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think the twin charging is a sure thing, I’m just sharing what I found and that I think it could be real. But the stretches folks are making in the comments here to try to dispel this theory is even MORE far fetched.
@polystictus
@polystictus 3 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch Don't forget...whatever it is, it is the "Unthinkable"....
@charliebrock9128
@charliebrock9128 2 ай бұрын
it would never happen the outlay alone would push the price of zR1 out of reach for people like me!!!
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 2 ай бұрын
Probably true on the price. I honestly don’t think this would happen for real either, just seems too far out there. But with all this evidence, there’s a crazy chance it could happen
@floringoron
@floringoron 5 ай бұрын
Volvo s60 had that 10 years ago or so its been heard of already 😂
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Volvo is still doing it in many of their cars. At scale and reliably
@jrod9560
@jrod9560 5 ай бұрын
Its a vornado fan with twin turbos basically lol
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Haha. Maybe not that elementary, but I see what you mean 🥴
@mizz079
@mizz079 5 ай бұрын
So they are going the Volvo route 🤔 👀 😳 🙄
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe. But times 2 and more displacement
@gmoney2500
@gmoney2500 5 ай бұрын
Compound boost from manufacture…highly doubt it
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Volvo currently does it and has for years without issues. Now, that’s on a 4-cylinder, but engineering would be the same times two
@joelpierce3940
@joelpierce3940 5 ай бұрын
Hope they can keep the temps down.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I’m not thermo engineer, but this may actually keep temps down. If the SC is electronically driven, not mechanical then it will produce less heat. And if they don’t need as big of turbos to try to spool too early, those wont get as hot either. But all around, I agree that will need attention.
@synseer8484
@synseer8484 5 ай бұрын
Grand National was an OLDS. With a TT v6 ..... Clue? ...... Reinforced version of the 5.5 block? For chrgd compression? That can be warranted? Exotic assassin?
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yep. It’s possible for sure
@edpeleschka2729
@edpeleschka2729 4 ай бұрын
You might be on to something.
@nautilusofficial8720
@nautilusofficial8720 5 ай бұрын
whatever they do please dont lock the ecus
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Sadly, I am almost certain we are out of luck with that, regardless of what is in it
@22killakush22
@22killakush22 5 ай бұрын
No way they do this with hybrid technology available . It will be a hybrid twin turbo 5.5 like the Ferrari SF90. A forced induction E RAY.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Possible, yes. I have not seen any evidence to believe the ZR1 will be hybrid AWD, but I would welcome that if they surprised us.
@polystictus
@polystictus 3 ай бұрын
I think you are talking about the Zora.
@viperford6840
@viperford6840 5 ай бұрын
I'm willing to bet large sums of money it is not twin charged
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe not. And if not, was fun to sort this out
@Haulinbassracing
@Haulinbassracing 5 ай бұрын
Sequential Compound turbo
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
That’s likely as well, but not sure why they would label it as such when they us “SC” pretty consistently for “Supercharged”
@Haulinbassracing
@Haulinbassracing 5 ай бұрын
@SupercarRanch sequential compound could still utilize a centripical supercharger, piped into the inlet on of a turbski then run to intercooler. Not really feasible due to packaging on a front engine car but a mid engine car it can be done. Or we have an electric supercharger powered by a hydrid system
@tyreevans5928
@tyreevans5928 5 ай бұрын
Chevy is having to many issues with these c8’s I’m scared to buy one
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Like all cars, they have had some issues. But previous generations also had serious issues and the C8 still ranks very high in reliability compared to most other cars. If you’re not going to buy one because of that then you don’t really want one and are just looking for excuses to not buy one.
@tyreevans5928
@tyreevans5928 4 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch stfu you don’t know anything about me. I’m not fighting with the corporation I’m hard on my cars and the only car company that has not fail on me is Audi my s6 and r8 v10 never broke down but I will not keep them once the warranty wears out I’ve had 3 s6 1 M5 and 1 r8 I’m keeping a close eye on the eray but don’t ever assume you know me or my intentions because you don’t superass.
@siddiqahmad5193
@siddiqahmad5193 5 ай бұрын
Twin charging is nothing new (Lancia, Nissan, Volkswagen - Circa 1980.) On that basis "Unthinkable" becomes: thought, did, moved on.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yes, not new and even Volvo still does it today at scale. But It would be new and unexpected for GM and in a car like this
@billganas467
@billganas467 5 ай бұрын
how about my really crazy idea..... 2 - 4 cyl Honda style engines ... 1 for front wheels and 1 for rear.. some of those crazy honda blocks w snails blow over 1000hp...don't reply and tell me how F'n crazy I am , I know already, I have a mirror & i live here.........lololol safe travels 2 all
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
I’m thinking 4 diesel hybrid engines. One on each wheel
@billganas467
@billganas467 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch ur sicker than me
@CSCCHRIS
@CSCCHRIS 5 ай бұрын
5.5 tt
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
With SC 😅
@LongTimeScare
@LongTimeScare 4 ай бұрын
HA, HA, HA... what a ridiculous Vid. I''ve had a CAD drawing of the ZR 1 Twin Turbo 5.5 V8 since 2019. This engine has been under development for longer than that.
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 4 ай бұрын
The CAD drawing is actually from 2017 and yes I am sure it is or was real. But that was also before they actually built and tested them. Lots of things can change in 7 years of development and testing. Listen, I made it very clear in the video that this was just speculation, but that it might end up being real.
@PJay1761
@PJay1761 5 ай бұрын
Uh no it won't
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
Your evidence?
@Fernando-u9t3y
@Fernando-u9t3y 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking about what you said. I just did not want to be laughed at. Twin charged, with electric assistance and possibly diesel eng. could they put 2 small engines? Don’t laugh. 🫤
@SupercarRanch
@SupercarRanch 5 ай бұрын
That won’t fly. Imagine the fuel management 🥴
@Fernando-u9t3y
@Fernando-u9t3y 5 ай бұрын
@@SupercarRanch I agree. It would be insane. 🙃 But that would solve the issue with those front wheels raising with all that power. 😬
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