Untold Histories: NATO Always Was A Tool For Global Domination | Historian Dr. Jeff Rich

[@ollyr_3710]

So good to see people from all continents and many countries talking sane things. Listening to this channel gives me the sense of being part of a wonderful community of peace loving and reasonable people.

[@valerietweedie4376]

I couldn't agree more!

[@susannestrange4299]

No to NATO, yes to peace.

[@Fleur-fg4nr]

Defund Kiev, defund Brussels! (the EU too in its modern-day format)

[@rumpelstilzz]

It all comes down to feudalism, the very thing the WEF is rebuilding right before our eyes. NATO is the military arm organization of US vassal states. It's political arm is the EU, which is lead by Germany (and there hasn't been a single German politician who followed German interests for a while. Every German who follows anything else than US interests is immediately ousted and villified in the media) and France - which has his own vassals, organised in ECOWAS. That is political feudalism, it never went away. The WEF funds US policies and is the very head of the new feudalism movement, trying to implement feudalism not only in politics, but also in economy (post capitalism / peak neoliberalism / neo feudalism, listen to Yannis Varoufakis for closer explanation), and in personal relations also. The transhumanist tech giant's wet dream, the 'improved' human, is nothing but a means to make you completely reliant on your new feudal lords, those who own the technology that improves you, surveys you, and can shut you down if you chose to resist. And no, it is not a conspiracy theory, the ultra rich are quite open on that if you listen to them talking in interviews. They took over the tools left by the colonialists and are now using them not only on the global south but also on the western working class.

[@ElizabethRobb-t3t]

Absolutely one of the best channels with fantastic guests . 👍 I personally can't thank you enough , you've kept me sane in a mad, mad workd. ❤😊

[@johncale1849]

Great guest He has a great channel

[@johannafreeburn3061]

JUST FABULOUS ! thankyou

[@gavtalk958]

Well done Pascal for having Jeff on. He is a very balanced man, highly articulate and considered. His podcast/KZbin channel is seriously good and deserves ",000" more views than he gets. This discussion was good, and quite different in that it was you (also very articulate I might say) pulling out some of the deeper perspectives from Rich's mind. Thanks Jeff.

[@bumble-g2j]

I reckon Jeff is a bigot.

[@Stacie45]

"NATO is not expanding into the Pacific, it is calling in its assets in the Pacific." Brilliant.

[@thisiskevin1000]

Most especially France, the UK and the US.

[@bumble-g2j]

NATO is not a country. It has no army, air force nor navy.

[@valerietweedie4376]

I have watched them all and Neutrality Studies has become my favourite channel. Thank you, Pascal! What you offer is so unique and valuable!

[@barbararouwendal8708]

there are so many more now, I stopped watching msm and it feels like some detox experience

[@puzysaid]

Thanks much Dr Pascal & Dr Rich for this great interview. The Asian pacific rim countries have co-existed peacefully with China for centuries. Until the arrival of Anglo-Saxon colonialists on our shores in the 16th century. Way before the creation of Australia & New Zealand colonial states. Japan, South Korea, Phillipines & Singapore must not bring these warmongers (NATO) back here.

[@bumble-g2j]

Is Vietnam happy with China? Not last time I heard.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

“Operation Iraqi freedom” was the saintly title for the brutal invasion of Iraq. “Operation unified protector” was the angelic name for the destruction of Libya. “Operation enduring freedom” was the virtuous name given to the unjust invasion of Afghanistan. All in the name of "freedom and democracy".

[@complexcarbivorous8013]

Democra-C.I.A.

[@peterkerruish8136]

JEFF U've got Big Balls-Thanhks M8.

[@peterpeugeotsaab]

Love the way Pascal interview people.

[@sabinehahn9774]

This was really wonderful - thank you so much! It made me realise that living over 30 years in Australia has made me adapt another version of history and I can't understand my native Germany in certain areas anymore. Really interesting.

[@marionreynolds7080]

Listening to Dr Rich brings to mind the quote: when the past no longer illuminates the future the spirit walks in darkness’ - Alexis de Tocqueville.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

NATO is not a defensive alliance. They illegally bombed Yugoslavia (direct violation of the UN Charter). We must never forget what they did to Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria ...

[@myew4481]

And NATO invaded China in the past!

[@ralphbernhard1757]

​@@myew4481 "Century of Shame." A loose coalition of western imperialist powers cooperated, *using the divide-and-rule technique,* to bring China down and plunder its wealth for 100 years...

[@MeelisPaas]

Didn't the Afghanistan started the war? Have you read anything about Libya?

[@coolshah1662]

@@MeelisPaas When?

[@owesteen-hansen2152]

@@MeelisPaas No, A did not start the war. The actors behind 9/11 were nor Afghans, but Saudies. It was a terrorist attack and that is not the same as war, - using the definitions of international law. Neither was the intervention and invasion of A called a war, but a military operation named Enduring Freedom. It was not the Talibans that were behind the attack 9/11, stupid.

[@mzncjdkslakpd]

Wonderful to see Pascal and Jeff together. Both are among people to whom I listen regularly

[@nurainiarsad7395]

18:40 I just realised recently, that the British went to Indonesia on behalf of the Netherlands, basically right after WW2 ended - literally one month after Sukarno announced the independence of Indonesia, in order to re-assert colonial domination of a fellow European country. They came with British Indian regiments, to fight the native independence movement, right after supposedly fighting for the freedom of peoples against Nazism. (And my dad does not for one second believe that they would have given Indonesia back to the Dutch either, had they been successful! He thinks Britain came so immediately, because they saw a chance to take Indonesia for themselves from the weakened Netherlands, on top of taking back Malaya, Borneo, and Singapore from the surrendered Japanese. He pointed out that the British would have had only enough time to pack up and set sail, from the time news of Sukarno's declaration would have reached the international community. It would literally have been a thing they did straight away.) So yeah, I'm one of those Asians now very sceptical of the whole noble war narrative of WW2. If they were so noble, and learned how awful imperial racial supremacism is, why was it so hard for Asia and Africa to decolonise after that?

[@cretumarius9616]

Exactly, it was never about the evil German, it was always about power

[@bru513]

​@@cretumarius9616Just look at how comfortable they are with the slaughter they do or cause in Middle East today, or how they treat their own citizens when they protest or boycott war and colonialism. They haven't learned anything. But somehow they do believe they're better than their ancestors.

[@cretumarius9616]

@@bru513 the western population still see themselves superior to their rest of the world. They are like a gang of thieves who fight each other. They are proud of their history very few have any remorse

[@RojaJaneman]

U think they’re noble because they’ve been alive in d system and governance in every continent. It’s all a facade.

[@RojaJaneman]

@@bru513Middle East has been doing it amongst themselves for thousands of yrs. And will continue regardless.

[@ekonoi2e]

For me the best way to get out of the personal mental prison is to listen to the people of knowledge convince strongly to their point of view (simultaneously accepting doubts and questions their view) presenting their opinion in a gentle way, without much excitement. Listening to different oriented speakers, and asking myself, what's new they are bringing to my inner mindscape. I am before 50, all past life, although I was changing ideological orientation sometimes radically, I thought I knew how to fix the world and manage society. Now I just think it is impossible.Thank You Gentlemen.

[@treefrog3349]

Netanyahu is soon to visit the US Congress. The media is already speculating about how many standing ovations he will receive. Is this is not an example of the deterioration of objective wisdom and the triumph of nationalistic lunacy? Its implications are frighteningly tragic for all of us.

[@Jebediah1999]

The triumph of financial donations into their political machinery. That is what they are really ovating about.

[@bumble-g2j]

Did he address NATO did he? No standing ovations in Brussels? Are you doing a bit of sleight of hand here sport?.

[@HassanHosseini128]

Very respectable man. Thank you Pascal.

[@theburningarchive]

Thanks for the great interview, Pascal. So many thought provoking questions!

[@secularnevrosis]

History is useful. We need to know where we have been so we know in what direction the future lies. If the history gets distorted by a false understanding of it and propagandized with the purpose to rewrite it? Then we are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past by simply not understanding where we are at the present. I have repeatedly told people, when discussing current events in the world, that they really don't understand the past. To put it into words: "The world that you live in doesn't exist any more. And it possibly did never exist in the form you thought it did."

[@Luke1959]

"If you forget your past, you have no future"

[@bumble-g2j]

Are you interested in history or someone confirming your point of view.

[@secularnevrosis]

@@bumble-g2j What do you think?

[@ruskoruskov3086]

Just subbed to Jeff's channel...thank you gentlemen for your work...

[@sophiashakti5638]

Thanks for this interview. Jeff Rich has a wealth of knowledge.

[@ollyr_3710]

A clash of values doesn't have to lead to an armed clash. This is not the way to co-exist. We should negotiate and balance the interests of all parties.

[@bumble-g2j]

A balancing act over Crimea? Really?

[@stephen_pfrimmer]

Thank you Jeff Rich. Thank you Pascal.

[@frolicsomgaiety]

Awesome! Subbed to Jeff

[@BestFitSquareChannel]

Thank you Dr. Rich. Thank you Professor Lottaz. Best wishes. 🌞🫶🏼✌🏼

[@katrinhochreiter9431]

Thank you. Thank you, thank you. I do not share your knowledge by far, but I feel at home on this channel, sanity despite all the frustration.

[@jossiesh7649]

Thank you, gentlemen.

[@kaeltkottmir]

it's the burning archive guy

[@vk2im9]

Good, enlightening guest. Thanks :) (But he should watch the candle inside the bookshelf)

[@philippechable1536]

Thanks Pascal, one of the best dialogue on your channel.

[@lisbondiaries9212]

Most people may think NATO was formed in response to the Warsaw Pact, but I believe NATO started being unofficially formed before the Warsaw Pact, so it was never formed for the reason it has claimed.

[@calicocat8213]

NATO was created on 4 April 1949 (in Washington DC). The Warsaw Pact on 14 May 1955 (as a counterbalance to NATO).

[@lisbondiaries9212]

@@calicocat8213 Yes, that is what I said…created earlier. Many I know in the U.S. think the reverse…NATO was created to counterbalance the Warsaw Pact.

[@mark_2]

And Molotov proposed that the USSR join NATO in march 1954.

[@lisbondiaries9212]

@@mark_2 U.S. has not allowed Russia to join NATO from the beginning.

[@bumble-g2j]

Countries form alliances. So?

[@zetristan4525]

That's rich - sorry, couldn't resist jeffing the name! (Wordplay is my weakness. Hope the algorithm promotes the video and the channel, boosted by Likes and comments)

[@rehanaflowerinjannah4499]

This discussion brings to mind most of what is in King of the Castle. Choice and Responsibility in the Modern World by Charles Le Gai Eaton. Thank you for the discussion.

[@charlesyang4923]

Decent historian or normal people would agree that the first thing destroyed in war is truth. Though it may have to be so during conflict as info war, but level-ground and unbiased historic conclusion documented and allowing public accessible is a “MUST” beyond war parties to the entire human race. This is something we should, we can and we need to hard lesson learned from history thru devastation and bloodshed.

[@nicoleg70]

Formidable échange, que j'ai suivi grâce aux sous-titres, mon niveau d'anglais oral étant insuffisant. Nous sommes à mille lieues des discours formatés des politiques, des éléments de langage des media, de l'insoutenable bellicisme des occidentaux dans leur ensemble. C'est une bouffée d'oxygène dans ce contexte oppressant auquel nous aimerions tellement échapper ! Merci pour cette belle initiative rapprochant des amoureux de la paix dans le monde...

[@bumble-g2j]

Aren't you actually talking about the US?

[@demonridera]

There are many, especially among the Gulf countries that are willing accomplices. Hanging on to power by a few is more important than the interests of many

[@deanzaZZR]

Thank you for tying this NATO push into the Asia Pacific with European and American colonialism. There was a sad chapter in history when one could find Dutch military ships in what is now called Indonesia, American military vessels in Manila Bay, British battleships in Hong Kong and German warships off the coast of Shandong. Never again!

[@marlbankian]

Interesting interview

[@dinnerwithfranklin2451]

Very interesting discussion. Thank you.

[@lindahockham5081]

History, as we know it, is written by the perceived victorious. Never, do we hear about what we had to do, to bring the enemy to their knees. Even the veterans are traumatized into silence, knowing how they were complicit in the war crimes deemed “necessary” because the enemy was so evil. The multipolar world, seems to be based on a helping hand upward for those less fortunate, rather than taking advantage of their ignorance of how we benefit from their participation. We are watching the emergence of a system that is a blend of of both capitalism and communism, where the best of both are taken into account. Clearly, those who are applying the concept are flourishing, while the countries less adaptive are not. The universal law of “first, do no harm” is also being honoured by this new system of cooperation. Now that’s clearly learning from our past mistakes.

[@used2sw125Lbtu]

Why aren't I surprised about what the USA perpetrates and perpetuates! Thank you Pascal and Dr. Rich.

[@imnotanalien7839]

The U.S. is a patron of the power elite in Europe, is probably the most interesting statement for Americans to hear. It makes perfect sense as it was countries in Europe that controlled so many other countries around the world. The U.S. had no influence, or interest in those colonial countries…until they hooked up with Europe after WWII. The UN and NATO, the WORLD Bank, and IMF cemented relationships. But it was the money from capitalism and U.S. taxpayers, that unwittingly glued the global elite together. Great discussion!

[@xiaomingguo6826]

The mainstream names them "like-minded-states". They are like-minded because they were, are, and continually want to be imperialists and colonialists.

[@charlesyang4923]

A good way of enlightenment of one’s self-conscious to become truth awarer or at least debunker of false narrative can start with “listen” to what the other side says and ask a simple question for yourself “does it make sense whilst position yourself sitting in the other side’s chair”. Most of the time, you came up with sympathy after acknowledgement, then it’s action time for you to dig out the truth by dive into deeper for truth thru broad-based reading, and talking to people of the other side.

[@nadiawheeler4772]

Excellent ❤❤

[@annazimmerman69]

A great interview - thank you very much. I would have really liked to have heard Dr Rich's recommendations for which Russian historians he would advise us to read.

[@zetristan4525]

Wonderful guest! (And I like Pascal's use of new-created word 'failse')

[@zetristan4525]

@@m.w.5691 I think it's just a false way of saying 'false', but appropriately mixes in the word "fail"🤣 - an idiosyncracy - like he used to say "stallmate"♟️ It's his meaning, and good heart and mind that matters🌍

[@flamani54]

"Essentialization"; the flattening of everything that is not white. Colonialism, or Neocolonialism all are alive and well in Africa. France is the worse among colonizers still at these; yet denying it, and seeing any Africans who wants to address these issues as an enemy of the French State. The Ghana empire was alive and well when Europe was still searching for itself. Yet, here we are today. Altougth, not all was of their doing, but Europeans greatly contributed to the situation in which we found ourselves today. In any case, thank you for the great work.

[@taq1238]

Pan-Africanism is the way to regain our dignity as a people. 🇯🇲

[@Bernd-m2o]

Actually the German word for "History", "Geschichte", doesn't only contain the word for "story", it's actually exactly the same word for both, "History" and "story".

[@jacintochua6885]

" Exceptionalism and indispensabiity "became key narratives .

[@Robert-n5t9v]

The people of Libya had a wonderful life under Gaddafi then the West told the Libyan people that Gaddafi is a evil dictator and some Libyan started to believe this propaganda and tried to come to the European Paradise and unfortunately ended up drowned in the Mediterranean sea and killed by European coastguards.

[@ObjectiveMedia]

Imagine a society where our politicians aren’t supposed to speak about political issues in public. Isn’t that’s what they are SUPPOSED to do? This system is so backwards. Democracy is a charade here in the west (and I say that as a born and bred westerner).

[@bumble-g2j]

Democracy relies on activism.

[@motivo-academy]

It’s seems historically that there has always been 3 powers vying for control: The old money/aristocracy. The new money/monopolists. The exploited/people.

[@ms-jl6dl]

What about Communists? (USSR,China,Cuba,Venezuela,Vietnam,Cambodia,Zimbabwe,Bolivia,Nicaragua...) Also the countries that comited biggest atrocities against (their own) people ever.

[@NoelleChanHin]

I appreciate Jeff and follow a Lot of Videos on KZbin about him, I thank you Pascal to invite Jeff. Noelle von Dvorak Chan Berlin

[@IsabelEglitis]

This is the result when goodwill is lacking!!

[@charlesyang4923]

It’s never been so educative and informative that NATO is actually an extension of colonialism by forming a military body where America plays patron and summons the European colonizer states as the sole and foremost purpose. This debunks NATO as an alliance of arguably defense or actually offence, but a continuation of colonialism by the same military means comparable to the gunboat diplomacy during 17~18 century.

[@Robert-n5t9v]

The success of NATO was the genius method it used to tell the people that it is an organisation for peace..

[@SvenjaIpsen]

Wherever power structures are involved, we have to be skeptical of what is declared officially vs. what is left out or lied about. This extends to historians, political analysts and journalists. Because some of these identify with the official narratives so much that they are not even interested in "truth", objectivity or digging deeper. So whenever con fronted with someone powerful, or representing any kind of power structure: be skeptical - always.

[@dechaariyaratana2340]

This Global Domination discussion led me into thinking about why the West didn’t colonize China in its entirety unlike The British with the population less than a hundred million people managed to colonize India, a huge population and land mass. Could anyone collaborate to this?

[@mzncjdkslakpd]

Thank you for calling out Timothy Snyder, a strange case of a historian "going native" (I thought that happened to anthropologists!) in Eastern Europe

[@Pfuetzenspringer]

„Geschichte“ has also „story“ in it!

[@alexsimpson79]

West is deeply flawed and refuses to see it. It’s psychology. Perhaps I will be good idea to invite psychologist for proper diagnosis? 😉

[@vericacvetkovic9093]

They see it, but refuse to admit it publicly, pretending they do it for humanitarian reasons, to apper "good", so they don't get called out, hoping they would get away with it. But nobody is blind, except the stupid ones.

[@taq1238]

Yet another "hidden" gem. They know what is at play, it's called Psychopathy.

[@bumble-g2j]

Is the psychologist Vladimir Vladimirovich is it?

[@renstein8210]

The reality is that many people have jobs, families, and hobbies. These people often don’t think a lot about history and narratives because their brains are occupied with other things of life. They need to get historical context from somewhere for what is going on, and hour long, in depth videos aren’t a viable option for them. While this type of video is nice for those of us with time to listen and participate, it doesn’t move the needle in terms of general public perceptions.

[@johannespaulfrank3441]

Imagine H*tler has had a single nuclear bomb. Now Germany has a power equivalent to 88 bombs, type Hiroshima. "Nuclear sharing is a concept in NATO's policy of nuclear deterrence, which allows member countries without nuclear weapons of their own to participate in the planning for the use of nuclear weapons by NATO. In particular, it provides for involvement of the armed forces of those countries in delivering nuclear weapons in the event of their use."

[@ObjectiveMedia]

🎯

[@bumble-g2j]

So?.

[@myew4481]

Kishore Makbumani, and I second S L Kanthan!

[@treefrog3349]

The ever-coagulatng nodes of global wealth and power had their origins in colonialism. We have gone from the East India Company to the Vanguard Group and BlackRock, etc. Most politicians are "owned" by their corporate overlords. Noble ideals, societal goals and democracy itself has withered. The well-being of the Commons and those who dwell there is barely an afterthought to those who pull the strings of wealth and power.

[@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602]

When power is exercised at a distance, in a hierarchical, subtle and ruthless manner, reinforcing asymmetry and economic, political and military differences between countries, it is possible to say that colonial relations exist. The failure of a Microsoft update stopped banks, ports, airports and various other types of private and public "online" services around the world, making people see something fundamental and hidden: technological colonialism. The interviewee does not talk about this subject, but we must assume that Microsoft's failure also affected or could affect NATO in some way, exposing the weakness of military-political imperialism based on private technology. The irony: in this case NATO's biggest enemy will not be Russia and China, but American Big Tech. The German Navy announced that in 2025 it will replace the 8-inch floppy disks that manage the computer systems of its Brandenburg-class F123 frigates. I assume that Germany's military insecurity and naval problems will begin after this replacement. 😂😂😂

[@1being]

How to get out of your mental prison? I have heard the process described as pluralistic epistemology.

[@billhammett174]

That's what happens when you delegate the narrative to journalists instead of scholars. A colossal failure of the academy...

[@owesteen-hansen2152]

Marx did not say that communism is the end of history, but that communism is the beginning of history, menaning the beginning of the conscious creation of history, which has not yet occured, because of the unconscious forces driving human behavior and the lack of knowledge of the natural forces driving natures evolution. It's the enlightenment that make conscious creation of history possible and that was the meaning of enlightenment. Enlightenment is a never ending story.

[@Robert-n5t9v]

The crimes of the Soviet Union brought it to its knees. The crimes of western colonialism made the West fabulously rich .Think how Belgium tortured the people in Congo without punishment and ending up with a wonderful life.

[@cristianoaddariodeabreu5319]

We live in a faustick world, in which the volume of information is suffocating for humanity. It seems that there is a destructive reaction against memory, as a result of a revolt against the oppression that such a volume of information is causing in many people

[@helenconway541]

What about Herstory as well

[@gitteholmen8156]

❤

[@mzncjdkslakpd]

Don't forget the other "stupid idea" current at the time, that Reagan outspent the Soviet Union into the ground, like winning in a drag race. Jeff would remember first hand

[@WanderingGinko]

“The only thing that we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.”-Hegel.

[@greendragonspirit1646]

Britain comes to my mind first , when I hear the word colonialism .

[@halvorslemmen1051]

Walter Benjamin “On the Concept of History”: Thesis IX, the angel of history with outspread wings looking back in horror. It sees the development of history as nothing more than a long series of disasters, but that does not mean that there are no glimmers of light. You have to find them in the dark. Benjamin also says that history has a Janus face, i.e. a double face, which means that the historical progress, which we think is progress, is at the same time a step backwards. There is no straight line of history. The belief in rectilinear progress is ancient, such as e.g. in Christianity with first paradise, then the fall, then thinking that one is on the way to paradise again; or as in the interaction of liberalism and Enlightenment thinking with the notions of the modern project; or in Karl Marx's conception of the path to a classless society; or also in Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel's dialectical view of history, that we are on the way to something increasingly better. Society at all times has a notion of itself that it is progressing developmentally, but that notion is a constructed dream image. With reference to the 19th century, Benjamin analyzes this in the 'Arcades Project'. He calls the idea that society has of itself phantasmagoria. It consists of both real and unreal elements in a dialectical relationship. Thinking about historical progress is therefore only a dream image, and Benjamin says there is no such thing as progress. We must break with the idea of progress in history, otherwise we cover up history with a false construction, which constitutes society's dream images of reality. It is difficult to write history from the bottom up, but that is what Benjamin tries to do, summed up in his method, and this method of presentation Benjamin calls historical surrealism. Benjamin's basic problem: What is history, what image do we have of history, and how can we present history? He is concerned with history as images of memory, is what constantly makes up what people remember; representation consists of people's recollections of history. Walter Benjamin is incredibly interesting! Elsa Morante's novel 'History' revolves much around the same questions. A very good novel.

[@treefrog3349]

The intellectual naiveté of Americans resulting from the collapse of its education system has created an environment where rabid nationalism and religious magical thinking are coalescing is very detrimental ways. "Mind control" may be an inflammatory description of this phenomena, but it is not totally inaccurate.

[@taq1238]

It's totally accurate statement.

[@therealarchstanton3343]

History (eng) = Geschichte (deutsch) = Story. What do you call it in Swiss German?

[@piotrberman6363]

Back during Iraq War II, I realized that "First, they torture logic." I was inspired by torture scandals associated with military/governing activities in Afghanistan and Iraq, but the prior justifications were full not merely of lies, but also of non sequitur's. Take rarely contested claim "we need to secure energy supplies" that was used in this context (and quite persistent till today). How many countries secure energy supplies by buying necessary supplies, fuels, generators etc.? Quite a few, actually. For that matter, Saddam Hussein would sell more oil if allowed. In short, narratives/stories are used in claims "if we do not do A, we will get calamity B". History, geography, trade data etc. allow to test such implications. For example, the current NATO-ist claim is that if Russia is not defeated in Ukraine, the rest of Europe (excluding Belarus) will be in terrible danger. Can we check what security calculations and claims were made within NATO back in 2021? Wasn't it that as long as Europeans (excluding Belarus, but including Canada) spend 2% of GDP on military, and USA maintains its course, the potential of NATO is so enormously larger that that of a backward and poor "gas station" that no danger exist (but we have to stick to spending targets). The example of Dr. Jeff Rich is illuminating too. NATO is a long lasting military alliance, but, as Jeff pointed out, not THAT long lasting, Franco-Ottoman alliance lasted longer. One could followed it with a short list of high and low points of F-O alliance (e.g. was Crimean War a success securing Ottoman possession of Balkans or in any other way?). Lasting long is not a good predictor of beneficial results. More importantly, one could examine the paradigm of Munich agreement with Hitler as a harbinger of doom, as this "history lesson" is used most intensely, which may be harder, but genuinely interesting.

[@Larkinchance]

Stoltenberg is a martinet

[@domenicamassaro8221]

The winner takes it all, also the truth. It's called storiography. The problem starts when the winner is sort of exiliated, like the Russians at the last commemoration in Normandy. Strange things happening.

[@oiossb6894]

Never again will colonisation be allowed to happen in ASEAN with the exception of the weak Philippines. We have not forgotten the past. 😂

[@taq1238]

We are still trying to get them out of Africa. The AES has given us hope.

[@johncale1849]

You need some non white guests, Africans, Indians, South Americans etc

[@kubhlaikhan2015]

He's Australian! how foreign do you want?

[@HumblePeon2]

SL Kanthan would be interesting. He just had a good interview with Lena Petrova

[@johncale1849]

@@kubhlaikhan2015 I want to see what intellectuals from a completely different cultural background feel about NATO, the multipolar world etc. Australians are westerners.

[@taq1238]

NON-WHITE!

[@izuaff04]

neo-colonialism

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

The story of NATO should start before 1939, and we should learn about the real history of who fought with who and against whom. There was a reason that the Dulles Bros passed their time in Bern, and Orwell was writing about the past and not some dystopian future.

[@dechaariyaratana2340]

Used to have great admiration for the British for bringing prosperity to at least two tiny States, Hong Kong and Singapore, the former colonies unlike the French Colonies and the Spanish Colonies still have their internal conflicts and poor until I came across late POTUS Richard Nixon’s speech about the capabilities of the Chinese people and the world should welcome them to the Community. The Overseas Chinese Built Hong Kong and Singapore. In the case of the US occupation of Japan, South Korea and Germany am not sure about the US assistance

[@patternaid280]

British Progress to Hong Kong? Read the Book " The China Mirage" and you will be appalling to say the least 😢

[@kristinesugala4492]

A person have wisdom from God above, knows NATO very well .

[@Pietari55]

Can anyone tell, and perhaps also explain how and when the philosophical anti-authoritative and anti-violence debate has actually increased world peace and harmony? Anywhere? Although it is giving issues to think about.

[@johannespaulfrank3441]

Good question. My Workaround: The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them. Karl Popper describes the paradox as arising from the fact that, in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance

[@Pietari55]

@johannespaulfrank3441 OK, the tolerance is a very good method in societies where the background surveillance has exceeded high standards. As in a very tolerant nation, more diversity, the more decreased risks to any major uprising movements, the citizens are doing the main controlling activities inside the societies. The ancient divide and let them do the controlling each other. The state just does what it does best. Serves the capital and conquer territory.

[@malcolmbarnett8470]

Nietzsche said God is dead. However, he feared greatly the consequences of our loss of belief

[@bumble-g2j]

Who cares what he said.

[@yaelz6043]

Funny how no westerner ever said this before losing a nato war. Very convenient.

[@balozhende5727]

NATO came after WWII, not WWi

[@Reotha]

Nato,IMF and world bank.

[@karinbarton1240]

it is not true that the German word for “history” - “Geschichte” does not contain the word “story”. “Geschichte” means both: story and history. As in “erzaehl mir eine Geschichte” = tell me a story

[@V12F1Demon]

There was nothing to learn from this interview.

[@taq1238]

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[@jamesruscheinski8602]

can say no political government to God sovereignty