Unveiling the secrets of the eye | Elden ring lore

Have you ever wondered what's the meaning of the closed eye in Elden ring most important characters?
what is the relation between Ranni/Melina and Saint Trina? and what can the closed eye tell us about Messmer the impaler and Miquella in the DLC?
Let's find out.
#eldenring #eldenringlore #shadowoftheerdtree
Chapters
00:00 Eyes in Elden ring
01:43 Eye of Horus/Ra
02:13 Ranni's closed eye
02:50 The eye of Ra
03:53 Melina/Messmer
07:42 Why certain characters have a closed eye
09:04 Eye sacrifice in Myth
10:12 Gideon, the all knowing
10:53 Shabiri
12:20 Hyetta
12:55 Eating eyes in Elden ring
14:00 Saint Trina eye and the DLC

[@AdrianMRyan]

Note that amongst the demigods, Mohg is also missing his left eye. And as others have noted, Ranni's true form is the spirit that is missing a left eye (which is where she overlaps with her mirror-image doll, on its missing right eye). I think the missing left eye in some way represents sinning against the Erdtree / Greater Will. Those children of Marika/Radagon who turned their back on the Erdtree. Whether that's an in-world thing, or literary symbolism, I'm still not sure.

[@G4meplus]

I believe Mohg doesn't follow these patterns, i believe it's showing his devotion to his omen heritage as he refueses to trim his horn even if he will lose an eye for it. For Ranni the 2 faces to me at least, have it's own symbolism but for the eyes and it's symbolism i wouldn't rely on the spirit face.

[@AdrianMRyan]

@@G4meplus Thank you for the reply! That seems very true of Mohg, at least in-universe. From a literary symbolism perspective, I'm still caught on that fact that of the two Omen twins, only the one who has turned against the Ertree is missing an eye, and it's the same eye that many others are missing. Great channel btw! Quickly has come to the top of my Elden Lore watchthroughs.

[@Gord-writesGhost]

To me, that matters but its less symbolic and more practical, to the nature of reality. Eyes are just a funnel for filtered distortions of reality and illusions What good does your ocular faculty do when your mother is a habitual liar with an illusion addiction and you see the source code anyway

[@Blockvard]

It wouldn't surprise me if both of Miquella's eyes are closed and he's gained/gain some new power in the DLC

[@Gord-writesGhost]

Thought about this for months, been saying this for the last year, check every statue and likeness, nada. Ironically until I see HIS eyes, they might as well not exist. Same goes for Godwyn's legs and any other Demi God not Omen cursed, I don't assume you can walk until Miyazaki shows you walking. Until then Ranni, Radahn, Rykard, Malenia - you're all assumed to be more capable refined Albinauric / Mimic extensions

[@Blockvard]

@@Gord-writesGhost I've been suspicious of Gwyn and others aswell! We haven't even seen his legs yet. Seems rather connected to the crucible.

[@Gord-writesGhost]

@@Blockvard so many mysteries, what a great experience Elden Ring has been , fuck

[@Zer0ctopus7]

What an interesting look at certain Egyptian and Elden Ring characters' "oys." TO BE CLEAR: It's all love friend. I don't wanna sound like a bully.

[@iruamak8225]

*mr krabs walking sounds

[@Zer0ctopus7]

@@iruamak8225 lolol

[@ezenami]

we get the eye seal items of Merica and Radagon and in their final shattered forms they both seem to be missing an eye too, not to mention Garrang and the purple viby eye that reacts to death root - he seems to be missing an eye as well. We never get to properly see Malenia's eyes - by the time we meet her they'r both gone-ish with rot but she could've been missing one, We never see Miquella - cound be missing one too, Radan seems to be ok though...

[@Gord-writesGhost]

Great peep, have you taken a look at the demigods but for their ability to walk and have functioning legs ? We know miquella is well informed/educated/intelligent, and we can see several depictions of him from the status across Elphael, Ordina, Sellia? Trina's Hideaway and the carving on St Trina's Torch or the Sword of St. Trina where his eyes are closed or obscured.

[@soldierqo]

rykard also looks fine, considering all circumstances

[@ezenami]

@@Gord-writesGhost i dont think theres any mention of them having walking affliction. In case of Rhadan i remember someone looking into it and character art or trailer vs him now and it seems that after centuries and being mad and drugging his feet on sand and then literally being destroyed / rubbed off due to friction - and they do look like a scarred bloody mess at the bottom. Malenia is bouncing around just fine. Others seem to be fine too and Miquela we only ever see in statues and there's no soccer in the lands between so theres no statues of him running around :( His eyes do seem to be either cloed or looking down and I do believe he is usually shown exposing the left eye and maybe that one is closed like Melina but right one is open? who knows

[@RetroVideoGamer23]

Here we go, you are my new favourite channel right now

[@G4meplus]

Those comments make my day ❤️

[@Shanesawendsley]

The soreseals and scareseals also seem to be the eyes of Radagon and Marika

[@rubyjupiter2406]

Gotta agree with RetroVideoGamer23, you're definitely my favorite new channel.

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot, really appreciated ❤️

[@beansnrice321]

I'm surprised you did not mention the watchdog's greatsword. It's text reads: "Though decorated with the watchman's eye, the pupil was taken by graverobbers and is now hollow, leaving this sword a mere lump of stone." The watchman 100% makes me think of Gideon. The eye on the sword also looks very similar to the one on his armor. Also, that could implicate Gideon as the maker of the watchdogs, imps and possibly the stone golems. The golems even look a little like Gideon. Lastly I'm also surprised you did not mention the scarabs. I think one even has an mark of an eye on it that looks vaguely like the eye of Horus/Ra. Also scarabs are supposed to push the sub in Egyptian myth, if I'm not mistaken. So the scarabs are a little on the nose if you're correct about the Egyptian influences overall.

[@G4meplus]

great remarks my friend, that's what i meant by saying he used us to aquire more knowledge. There is an awesome old video by AgtJake that talks about this and it's almost became common knowledge at this point that he is stacking us through scarabs and other means so i didn't want to prolong the video talking about this part.

[@Luaeria]

@@G4meplusappropriate and clever withholding. Master piece I do say!

[@beansnrice321]

@@G4meplus Makes sense. Oh, I also forgot to mention that Gideon's helm spikes almost look like 8 little watchdog greatswords.

[@bandarsalh1338]

Ranni's true eye is the spirit one, so she also has a closed left eye

[@G4meplus]

You mean the spirit face of hers ?

[@Gaarkukan21]

I'm surprised how much NEW things I've learned from Elden Ring here. Subscribed and looking forward to more.

[@G4meplus]

Welcome aboard my friend.

[@giank.5373]

I can tell this chanel is gonna explode in no time by the way he uses ancient myths culture and sciences to couple it with theories and come with strong fundamentals. Love your videos bro

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot my friend, really appreciated ❤️

[@dark.73]

To Gideon: At 10:10 and 10:15 Gideon's armor even has these eye-shaped curves which further symbolize his craving of knowledge and observation

[@guilhermedossantos6358]

"shut up honey, game plus the alchemist released a new video"

[@bara3526]

One thing i want mentioned about this topic is the status effect They usually come in pairs (with exception of death blight) painting them in somewhat of relationship Like the poison and rot , bleed and freeze , frenzy and sleep , They pair share icon when you are being effected by it for example the bleed and freeze icon is a wound , bleed depicte the wound with blood while the freeze depict wound being frozen For the frenzy it depicts eyes being open while sleep depicting the eyes being closed

[@G4meplus]

A very interesting remark, i like it.

[@bronowiczj]

I love your theories!!!! Keep them coming!!

[@skeleskor]

Great job. All your videos are very insightful. It’s like we all missed a few tiny details, things we all overlooked. You’re answering questions we didn’t even know we had

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot, really appreciated ❤️

[@kithugomusic]

Another great video! Keep them coming!

[@archabaldbekfest3136]

It makes a lot of sense that the middle eye would be sleep. The right is life and the erdtree while the left is night/moon and death. So, the eye between them(middle eye) would between life and death, therefore sleep. This was a really interesting video, good job!

[@johngreen3996]

Love your vids man!

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot, glad you like it ❤️

[@maltajade9058]

Brilliant take on this! Thank you for sharing.

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed it.

[@BudravenOG]

Interesting. George RR Martin wrote the prehistory to Elden Ring and in his novel ASOIAF there's this line when magic returns to the world: "Blind Sybassion the Eater of Eyes can see again."

[@zorororonoa1143]

this channel is underrated , Keep going bro

[@Gaiden777]

Melina=St.Trina=Gloam Eyed Queen. Miquella inherited the same duel persona/gender thing as his "parents." Thats why they never show his face.

[@juice2307]

St. Trina may have also been Rani’s mentor, hence the puppet looking like Melina.

[@Gord-writesGhost]

Trina is derived from Latin trena, meaning triple. Remove the t, rena sounds literally the same as Renna . Considering Ranni's sense of an alias is just changing one letter, if you wonder where she learned that habit from, it loops back to prove itself, bing bong ezpz @@juice2307

[@legoswallower]

grace is most likely a illusion that is only in the eye, possibly even erdtree is only illusion too, that is why most enemies have lil bits of gold and their eyes.

[@Gord-writesGhost]

I wonder if it goes even deeper than just grace being an illusion, what else could be visually be manipulated in TLB, is it possible to distinguish the nature of reality. Is there even one? Maybe a little out of scope, and half joking but anyone who thinks that question is stupid must also believe Martin and Miyazaki have never been interested or found value in philosophy (A+ defense against criticism 😂)

[@euphoricganjanath5625]

Small channel but MASSIVE PP energy. You have been on a roll with your videos, keep it up! Collab with Tarnished Archeologist and Graham Hancock when haha?? This mans just said G. Eye. F in a video about eyes. I cant even. Im going hollow after that one.

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot my friend, glad you enjoyed. You are the first one that caught the G.Eye .f lol , good catch.

[@euphoricganjanath5625]

@@G4meplus Thank you too! 🥰❣❣

[@OneStarRating]

Miquella is Mycelia from Mycology and Micelle from Cytology

[@AC-hj9tv]

And Michelle

[@zackdoom]

Notice her tattoo over the gloam eye goes too I wonder what thats about

[@Mainlymundane]

I love this channel

[@NecroxTheGamer01]

You should add to this that the one and only time we saw Godwin, he opened his left eye... Maybe for the first time, his death allowing him to do so...

[@SnowMacaco]

awesome things about Odin, that he could see into the future, maybe Miquella, who is actually Mesmer (according to one theory) might have known all along what to do, just like Dr. Strange in infinity war ; )

[@Luaeria]

Excuse me, sir. Where are you bringing masterpiece after masterpiece from?! 😱🤯🤩 I have been digging and digging for the connection and importance and symbology behind the eyes through cultures across the world and nothing stood out to me as particularly meaningful. I have an actual whole folder filled with pages and pages of research and I wasn’t able to make some of these connections you’re making. Bloody fantastic, as usual from you!!! You’re so clever!!! Thank you for being such a large part of the lore enrichment in the community lately!!! It’s a 10/10 from meh!!!!💜💜💜💜💜

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot my friend, your comments always put a smile on my face ❤️

[@Gord-writesGhost]

What kind of eyedeas did you have corralled up?

[@Luaeria]

@@Gord-writesGhost 🤣😂 EYE see what you did there 🤭

[@Gord-writesGhost]

@@Luaeria overnights are killin me I totally don't remember forcing that pun😂 I don't mean to belabour, I saw your name show up as ''K8 Colloidal Electrum' - have you paid much attn to the Miquellan Knight Sword, I was curious on your thoughts about its design/ iconography? Dont laugh, but I first thought it was portraying electrons, since then I've bounced types of plants, celestial bodies and an atomic model. I think I've found myself having replied to your comments unknowingly, half a dozen times this year. I'll have to find worse interests and talk less 🤕😂

[@Luaeria]

@@Gord-writesGhost the Miquellan Knights sword intrigued me quite a lot, because at first I thought it depicted the sun and flowers, etc… but the reason my name is colloidal electrum.. is because I have a theory that Miquella represents electrum. The sap from the haligtree is green. From the erdtree it is gold, from the crucible tree it has hues of reddish gold. Electrum is a naturally occurring alloy of silver and gold, combining their qualities in a gold colour that is slightly dulled with a green hue. Miquella was once known for his position firmly and staunchly about unalloyed gold. But I think when he dropped fundamentalism, he also dropped unalloyed gold. Part of the many reasons I think this beyond the sap of the haligtree being green is the colour of the haligtree knight armour set is more electrum than pure unalloyed gold. Additionall the sap from the haligtree would be directly infused with the blood of Miquella. Lastly, when you attempt to make a colloid of electrum with a laser in a clear fluid vessel, the colloid is not green or gold. The plume is purple. PURPLE!!! Like St. Trina!!! St. Trina whose plumes of sleep are purple but whose swords are silver. If you were to melt down the Miquellan knight sword and the sword of st Trina and blend them together it would be an electrum sword!! Those bits of haligtree sap in the Miquellan knight sword could VERY WELL be doubling as suns AND flowers AJD ELECTRONS!!!’ LE GASP!!!!! 😂🤣😂💕

[@Remeiko]

LETS GET THIS VIDEO OUT THERE! I have never seen this take before on elden ring lore. GamePlus once again bringing that NEW LORE to the lands between. I am so excited for ALLLLLL of the content you will make once the DLC drops!! Thank you for such great work.

[@G4meplus]

Thanks a lot my friend and i hope i keep providing quality content to such an amazing community as you guys ❤️

[@Remeiko]

@@G4meplus thank you for the reply and engaging with your audience! If you're looking for suggestions on next video I would love to see something on the ecology and geographical structure of the lands between, and what may have influenced the design from real life

[@thecrankyoldman]

A closed eye also means ignorance. Having your mind set on something so much, that you start to overlook things or take things for granted. Close one eye, you simply cant see as well, you miss things.

[@thecrankyoldman]

Third eye on the other hand, represents clairvoyance

[@NikkuKunUWU]

I see.... grace is stored in the balls (eyeballs)

[@AC-hj9tv]

😂😂😂❤

[@Calii60]

This is a super cool super theory, but Melina isn’t the only one who can burn the erdtree, as we learn in the game every Maiden serves as kindling for burning the erdtree, so maybe Mesmer can’t burn the erdtree himself either

[@calebcapson811]

Thank you, not enough people are looking for Elden Ring connections in Egyptian and Levantine mythology.

[@BrassPetals3Voices]

Another tie to eyes can be connected to the release date of June 21, the Summer Solstice. Summer Solstice is significant as it is a celebration time of the Shinto Sun deity, Amaterasu, sister to the Moon deity and the Storm/Sea deity - who after a fight with the Sun deity was banished to the underworld where he became associated with snakes and dragons. The Sun and Moon were born from the eyes, and Storm from the nose, of their male/Father dual-gender parent after the female/Mother dual-gender parent became trapped in the underworld having died from burning during the birth of their first child, the deity of Fire. Fascinating stuff. Different versions abound - my favorite involves another brother, the Leech child who was born cursed with no bones meaning he would never grow past childhood nor walk. Worth a look given that specific date for release!

[@G4meplus]

WoW, i will certainly look at that. Great catch my friend ❤️

[@Runningwritingreading]

Marika with eyes is NEVER shown... interesting

[@alirahimi6245]

i think the dynamic of ranni vs melena as two Eye of Horus vs the Eye of Ra. can also be seen in miquella vs mesmer as two opposing faction of the ending of the DLC

[@G4meplus]

Intestinal take.

[@MonteMind]

"Your faith is stored in your eyes" So in other words seeing is believing.

[@harrisonlovell3625]

On the topic of eyes, did anyone notice the old yellow guy's left eye is covered?

[@Some1whoRemembers]

Eyes,or as we know them in Elden ring: “Grapes”

[@ironbadger8985]

I think the demigods' powers are found in the eye. We find soreseals and scarseals which denote the lifelong service of those chosen by the gods, those eyes give us power at a cost. I think taking out a demigods eyes or sealing the eyelid shut diminishes their powers.

[@G4meplus]

Interesting take.

[@Dowskarok728]

One eye closed is the mark of an empyrean, who art yet to become one

[@FishyNiden]

While all that might be true, it is hard to currently make sense of considering the classical use of eyes in our history. With a lose of sight in the real world opens sight in another realm; some kind of esoteric, forbidden or magic knowledge/wisdom. With complete blindness being a character giving themselves to the 'other world', but having only 1 eye, presenting having gained wisdom yet staying in the real world making use of such wisdom for mortal aspirations. Such allegory paints, albeit simple, a neat picture of the narrative fromsoft gives, while the ideas you have given seem to rely on a bit much well-wishing, at least for now. Let's see what the dlc have in store for us.

[@Gord-writesGhost]

Are you working on a video for the Gloam Eyed Queen, id like to bounce some ideas and unresolved patterns your way or drop them by email if you're receptive!

[@G4meplus]

I would be happy to receive those, you will find my contact email in the about section on the channel page.

[@user-jy4kb4wu1k]

Was "the eyes have it" taken for a title for the video?

[@Wralis]

great stuff. Don't we have to insert the unalloyed needle into our eyes to ward off the outer gods?

[@G4meplus]

The game doesn't specifically tell us that but i think it's very logical yes, great catch.

[@baltasargamingshow3205]

Have you noticed Lillies do have 3 curves? 2 from the leaves and 1 for the flower itself? You know who has 3 curves on her closed eye? :v So Trina, meaning Trinus (Trinity) could be like the holy trinity one metaphor? St. Trina is in reality a trinity which consists on Melina, Miquella and Messmer? Melina been the Limbo (death), Miquella been the light (Holy) and Messmer been the fire (Hell). Now if this is correct then there is another reason to think that... If melina represents death... is she really then The Gloamed Eye Queen? v:

[@G4meplus]

That's really interesting.

[@nemesisundead83]

Ssssoooo what about Melina being the maiden for Messmer, and she was the one burned for the great tree when it was burned down

[@erteca]

In my opinion, Marika, Radagon, Malenia and Miquella have their one eyes closed. We have never seen Marika' s both eyes of her human form and never seen Malenia' s and Radagon' s too. Don't fall into their presentation in the statues I mean their living- fleshling forms. Idk but it makes me wonder everytime.

[@diegobrando492]

Grant us eyes, grant us eyes... Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy...

[@Dragonofdawest]

Is Melina actually an alter ego of Mesmer?

[@jtguy82]

I think St. Trina opened her third eye.

[@G4meplus]

I like that interpretation.

[@Invictus_00]

Love your channel, I can tell you are Egyptian!

[@erin1569]

Is this gonna prove my theory that Ranni, Melina, Messmer and Miquella are the same person?

[@OneStarRating]

Yes, because Miquella is Mycelia from Mycology and Micelle from Cytology.

[@Mainlymundane]

You got 3/4 right

[@KevD720]

I don’t know about Ranni, but I think Melina, Messmer, Miquella, and St Trina are the same person

[@CEOofTunneling]

Who told you that after burn Melina is dead?

[@G4meplus]

if you sacrificed her then went and inherited the frenzied flame before fighting Radagon Melina will not appear at the end to deliver you destined death.

[@CEOofTunneling]

@@G4meplus that doesnt mean she is dead. And who you think transfered you to Azula and then to Capital? She lied about amnesia. Serving Fingers. Messmir is her twin.

[@midorayo1149]

most ynderrated lore channel

[@WHALEBOY777]

You know what they say, "eyes are the windows to the soul"!