Up Close & Personal With A Fedelcode Type Mach. 3

[@willthetrill4849]

It was so cool seeing this siren blasting at SirenCon! Thanks for bringing it to sirencon making it the first time a dual rotor ever appeared there

[@SoutheastCaliforniaSirens2006]

I seriously hope this gets restored to working order

[@the_real_drwhoroblox1935]

same here

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

@@the_real_drwhoroblox1935Plans are in motion to get things done! It should be in working order as it was only up for like 8 months silent, but I don to have a good way to test it yet.

[@the_real_drwhoroblox1935]

oh thats good to hear@@MidwestSirenProductions

[@VonnaWasser]

​@@MidwestSirenProductions btw are you sure that's the same exact one from Volga City? Because it looks nothing like it because it's looks like a rust bucket of scrap with a motor with a tin can hat while this one looks like it is from a completely different siren

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

@@VonnaWasser mate, I can assure you this is the one from Volga City..,I was literally there assisting with the removal lol

[@willthetrill4849]

You’re so lucky to get such a rarity! I’ll be the second person to say this but you definitely should bring it to sirencon. Everybody went absolutely nuts when the ACA hurricane was there. I hope this siren gets that same reaction next sirencon

[@RosefoxFilms]

Oh my God- I- I swear, the siren community is going absolutely wild how many rare sirens are appearing.

[@tothabelvendel]

I love fedelcode mach sirens

[@stormandrailfan96]

Congrats on acquiring this siren! Such a unique beauty!

[@I_also_like_sirens_hehe]

Wait, where did that shroud come from? I thought the shroud looked like a huge tin can! Is that the original shroud?

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

The shroud seen here came from this siren; the baffles were bolted onto the skirts over the shroud. There was a bit of damage sustained when trying to cut off the bolts, but all in all, it's in surprisingly good shape for 95 years.

[@PalmPeakMarketing]

Nice to see it went to a good home. The siren sounded amazing and the rotors are surprisingly small.

[@therailcat9790]

Nice acquiring that! Is this the same Mach 3. That sounded 9/12 port that was replaced by the vortex?

[@kansasclocksandsirens]

Yessir

[@therailcat9790]

@@kansasclocksandsirens Yessss

[@publicmail2]

The Model/Type Mach. 3 is the smallest dual rotor siren in the original lineup, using the same 10.5 inch rotors that the Model 1 has. The Model 3 is essentially a dual rotor variant of the Model 1, but unlike the Model 1, the Model 3 has coding capabilities. The Model 3 makes use of two 10.5 inch rotors, and the siren was available in 9/9 or 12/12 port single tone, or 9/12 port dual tone. The siren is driven by a dual sided GE 3HP AC motor between the two rotors. The siren uses a tall cylindrical weatherproof housing, and each rotor/stator has two louvres that help project the sound both outwards and downwards. The siren also has a rainshield which both protects the siren itself and projects the sound from the upper rotor's intake. The Model 3 was available with coding dampers fixed to each intake, which could allow the siren to create coded pulse signals. These dampers were optional, and were designed to be easily added to or removed from the siren as required. The siren also used a mesh screen to protect each rotor. The Model 3 was successful, although not to the degree of the larger models.

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

What’s interesting is mine doesn’t have any mounting holes for coding equipment, and I’m not quite sure why…

[@BusMaster99]

Incredible! Basically the Superbanshee before the Superbanshee, but 9/12 and inverted.

[@VintageCollections]

Wow those choppers are SMALL, Great job on acquiring it!

[@xXSo1arGamingXx]

I wish I could've filmed this thing sounding for a noon blast while it was still active. At least I can say, I tried! Epic Acquirement Connor!

[@TheSirenGeek]

It was a treat to have this in the back of my truck lol

[@centralillinoissirens.]

next up..... >:) butter

[@CentralVirginiaEAS]

Thats insane you acquired one of these. Awesome!

[@YourAverageMODude145]

Yo, Federal Electric making directional rotors real, this is quite the treat.

[@Siren-experiments]

I quite like this siren, Has to have one of the best rotor designs I have seen on a pre Federal Signal siren with backwards curved blades! Will you do a video later on of it being run up?

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

The issue is it’s 3-phase…and I don’t know many out here with that power accessible. You never know, maybe I’ll figure something out!

[@therailcat9790]

@@MidwestSirenProductionsphase converter

[@Siren-experiments]

Oh okay, I look forward to hearing this siren if it does get power again & am looking forward to hearing the windown this siren makes with the 3 & 4 port undertones from the rotors. In future since I got a Qidi X-Max 3D printer a while back with a 10" by 12" print bed & I plan to re use it again in the future. I'm thinking of making sirens with 9 to 10" wide by 5" deep in the popular 6/10 & in double the ports 12/20 then 8/10, 8/12, 9/12, 10/12, 10/16, 8/16 etc. I have many rotor designs in the mind to from popular sirens from the past, one of them is the first generation Allertor as it is my favourite siren I like how they sound in all port combos. The other favourite I have is the 500 10/12.

[@AmericanSirenProductions]

That type 5 in Hillsboro, IL is loud as Snot, and I bet it has the same Rotor style.

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

You’d be correct, as it appears to be an earlier build similar to mine. Later models appeared to simplify the vanes to the more traditional bi-directional straight vane style seen on other Federal’s.

[@armoturo5346]

Shred the model 2 and use the remnants to patch the holes in the housing 😃

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

Damn

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

What are your plans on this siren! Do you plan on restoring it?

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

Eventually yes. Unfortunately I work full time now so time and resources are limited at the time, but the museum has offered to assist in my efforts!

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

@@MidwestSirenProductions that's nice!

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

​@@MidwestSirenProductions I can't wait to hear how this sounds Based on your previous dual tone fedel code this should be awesome!

[@trainsandsirensofilinmiwi2080]

Nice. You should eventually bring it to sirencon.

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

…perhaps…

[@connorcruz6249]

Directional rotors on an early federal?! I never thought I'd see the day

[@Supersonic_Sirens_TX]

Amazing

[@DJ2226]

Intersting to hear that the rotors are 10 inch in diameter. My Model 1 has a 9 inch rotor that's roughly 1-1/2 to 2 inches tall. It's directional like the ones on this siren too, albeit the vanes are all short instead of having 8 long vanes or 4 short and 4 long as many other Federal sirens at the time had. These are really odd sirens for sure.

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

Hol up, the Mach. 1 has a 9-inch rotor?! Holy smokes that’s incredible for that size!

[@DJ2226]

@@MidwestSirenProductions yeah. It's quite a bit bigger than a Model 2, but since they top out at 5000 RPM and don't have an air intake on both sides of the chopper they don't get quite as loud. It's also heavier than a Model 2, like 80 or so pounds. The bigger rotor makes it wind down slower too which makes it sounds a lot larger than it is from afar.

[@JerryWick]

Looks WAY better without the baffles

[@thedancingpickle6362]

Bro you got any updates on this thing?

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

Unfortunately not. It’s still sheltered at the museum but time’s been limited due to my career, combined with the cold. Come spring I’d like to try and start restoring the cover for it at the very least as I have some close connections that have a paint shop. Oh, and the shroud is currently being used as a different type of display…I’ll have a community post showing it off soon!

[@kansasclocksandsirens]

Jesus god That's nuts. Is it permanently on display there?

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

It is on loan, as I don't have a good place to put it at this time. I was going to get a storage unit, but figured a relic like this deserved to be seen by all, plus storage is free!

[@kansasclocksandsirens]

@@MidwestSirenProductions Ok. Makes sense

[@VonnaWasser]

That mach 3 Looks a little different from the other one, Mostly resembling a mach 10

[@theplaneeditorstjpoharyant3107]

Insanity What port ratio?

[@MidwestSirenProductions]

9/12

[@theplaneeditorstjpoharyant3107]

Ohhhh myyyyy godddddd