Update 2: Edenville Dam Collapse Wixom Lake Flood 2020 - Aerial

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Jordan Mowbray

Jordan Mowbray

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@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
How many people notice the gull eating the fish at 10:21 and the two Mallard Ducks shortly after. Also to address why the Four Lakes Task Force does not want people walking on the lake bed. This is for safety reasons as there are still banks caving in and sink holes in the lake.
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 4 жыл бұрын
but they cant stop you fron boating down the river or what is left of it
@dwightstjohn6927
@dwightstjohn6927 4 жыл бұрын
it's late spring and water run off time EVERYWHERE. I went to get my game cams off the river run in BC and one of them, by now, is in Idaho. Or my bear ate it.
@dwightstjohn6927
@dwightstjohn6927 4 жыл бұрын
@@dknowles60 that's going to be pretty hard on your boat unless you run a swamp cat. lot's of debri, stumps, even cars??? oops.
@patriciaguenzler9150
@patriciaguenzler9150 4 жыл бұрын
Seen ducks i must have old eyes
@lynneperg6853
@lynneperg6853 4 жыл бұрын
@@dwightstjohn6927My money goes on the bear.
@terribletom1145
@terribletom1145 4 жыл бұрын
I commend you for your dedication and genuine concern for the situation and the people who have had their lives impacted by this disaster. If it was not for your documentation and coverage of this, I would not have known the scope of the damage done. It is a shame that the devastation of those communities has not attracted more attention from media and authorities. Thank you for your non-biased factual reporting of these events. I do not know what you do for a living but you have a keen eye for detail, an excellent ability to present the information and would be a fine journalist in my opinion. These qualities are a breath of fresh air in a world where disinformation and lack of integrity run rampant. Keep up the excellent work. The people who live in those areas deserve to have their stories told, and need our help.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@junesorenson279
@junesorenson279 4 жыл бұрын
Love the message to "FIX ME"
@timtripp4222
@timtripp4222 4 жыл бұрын
Can't fix stupid! The locals prevented dam operators from lowering pond levels in spring. The Federal Government recended operator's license. Why hopefully you ask? Please look into more for FACTS.
@patriciaparker9563
@patriciaparker9563 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you are doing.
@tomtebbe7246
@tomtebbe7246 4 жыл бұрын
Great job narrating! As one of the few people to leave the elevation behind sanford dam, I had a perfect view of its failure. I would share the description of it anytime. Total catastrophe once the dirt disappered!
@prebenstablet8765
@prebenstablet8765 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great viev of all that you are filming
@connieholsinger3465
@connieholsinger3465 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jordan for your videos. You do an amazing job. I really enjoy watching and listening to you.
@ireneswarthout1588
@ireneswarthout1588 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone should petition KZbin to give you an award for your outstanding reporting when the main street news coverage heads left a long time ago. Keep it up Jordan, we are all Sanford,edanville,Midland strong..
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Irene, I appreciate it. An award is not why I am covering the story but it would be nice. The only thing I will get an award from KZbin will be when I get to 100,000 subscribers. Hopefully that time will come soon as this means more people will be seeing these videos.
@johntap431
@johntap431 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@anniesym5196
@anniesym5196 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, excellent reporting.
@alkalineorganicfanatic8655
@alkalineorganicfanatic8655 4 жыл бұрын
Great coverage, man. Well done!
@mitch58100
@mitch58100 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, the volume of water coming out of the dam was unbelievable; so thankful that no lives were lost. The damage though was terrible; just seeing the back of that house overhanging where the torrent came through and the height of the water makes it even more amazing that people got out and got away. Thank you again, Jordan for keeping everyone posted. When the news crews and cameras leave, no one ever knows what's left behind or how much work is yet to be done, and the people that have to deal with their lives being disrupted for months on end.
@pilotguychris7217
@pilotguychris7217 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work on the video Jordan!
@H3minusH2
@H3minusH2 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work Jordan. The music, while relaxing, helps create such haunting images.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Make sure to catch the video I will release tonight.
@H3minusH2
@H3minusH2 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Mowbray PayPal info?
@3sons66
@3sons66 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Jordan. Keep the updates coming!
@BHarry-mx9py
@BHarry-mx9py 4 жыл бұрын
Keep voting this in and this will ALWAYS be the result. There are no other words! God bless America.
@tahwnikcufos
@tahwnikcufos 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how they are so eager to place all of the blame on the parts of the dam that didn't fail, with their 8x10 glossy photos of how bad the parts that are still standing were before it burst... smh "A three-paragraph Michigan inspection report of the dam in 2018 found “moderate deterioration” in the dam’s spillways but noted they “appeared to be stable and functioning normally.” It demanded no repairs." The person writing the article either didn't look at the before and after pictures, or doesn't want anyone else to...
@ytzpilot
@ytzpilot 4 жыл бұрын
I would turn the former lake beds into State Parks. Give them back to the people and let nature regenerate it
@trekOCLVone
@trekOCLVone 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan - you are doing a great job of keeping the awareness going on this Mid Michigan devastation. Thank you for your hard work.
@johntap431
@johntap431 4 жыл бұрын
Great job on filming, I'd like to see more
@kennethmullen7183
@kennethmullen7183 4 жыл бұрын
HI Jordan. I want to thank you for another update. You do 1 heck of a job flying the drone and the great coverage we get to see in places you cant go. I want to PLEASE PLEASE ask you to not try and get permission to walk on the lake. I understand you said you can't but someone made a comment to try. The lake from what my eyes see is very very dangerous and I want to see you be safe from harms way. Again thank you for the amazing but such devastating damage. I can't even begin to imagine what the people in these communities are going through. It makes me sad but I know God is and will watch over these people. Jordan , again I want to thank you and be safe and take care. Again big hugs to you and all from Iowa.
@thebasketnut
@thebasketnut 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. Could you possibly include and updated shot of Stryker Marina in one of your videos?
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I can in the next video
@DanaBidlake
@DanaBidlake 4 жыл бұрын
While the water is down go out and find sunken treasures ...
@michiganhoosiers03
@michiganhoosiers03 4 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video! Thank you Jordan!
@mikeramsey9747
@mikeramsey9747 4 жыл бұрын
You may have said in a previous video but is the water flowing toward Lake Huron or Michigan?
@little5bee
@little5bee 4 жыл бұрын
It flows into Saginaw Bay, which is part of Lake Huron.
@brianmcintyre6407
@brianmcintyre6407 4 жыл бұрын
Very fair reporting. No emotion, when I'm sure you wanted to add it, but just facts...When you start your news channel, on just facts, I'll be lined up to subscribe. Keep this going Jordan.
@n.r.2258
@n.r.2258 4 жыл бұрын
Natur will always win.
@raymondheckard234
@raymondheckard234 4 жыл бұрын
You asked how they own the lake bed. They own the lake bed because before the dam was ever built, the land was bought from titled property owners as was listed on the deeds of each tract of land acquired to build the lake and rip the dam. The land was either bought freely from the former land owners or through eminent domain. So yes as the property owners of the land under the lake which was public, they can keep people off the dry land. The water belongs to the state and therefore is public, but the dry lake bed is private owned land and is recorded in the register of deeds. So if the dam is never rebuilt, they can sell the land for development , unless the land is acquired by the land owner for a park or public lands. This is the law in all 50 states. If a lake is built by the Army Corps of Engineers, then the land is owned by the Army Corp of Engineers and the federal government, if the lake is dry. Look up lake Optima in Oklahoma, it is a lake that was built, and when the dam was closed, the lake never filled up, so a few years the Army Corp deeded the property of the lake to the state of Oklahoma after they abandoned the property. Lake Optima is a 50 million dollar project that was abandoned in 1995, by the army Corp.
@Gypsy839
@Gypsy839 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this update.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@paullasmith4975
@paullasmith4975 4 жыл бұрын
Finding fault is best left to the legal begals--your opinions are best kept to yourself. Thing is to focus on rebuild and ask questions later. If I were in charge, I'd write a check and schedule a repayment plan after the fact. Done deal.
@amateurshooter6054
@amateurshooter6054 4 жыл бұрын
COOL
@William1221-q1e
@William1221-q1e 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to explore and see what is left from before the lakes where made, I also wonder how much it would cost to build a concrete dam in place of the earthen parts.
@johnje4285
@johnje4285 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to seeing your video. It is superb. You are correct about the bird song. I think nature is happy with the way that it has been reclaimed. I think the river looks beautiful. I am sorry for those who lost their homes and the environment they loved but for me personally, the river is more majestic. I would prefer the river and not the dam to be restored but I am an outsider.
@MrKillswitch88
@MrKillswitch88 4 жыл бұрын
There is an old native saying of such situations "only by the hands of the greedy does the Earth demand a fee".
@davidbird4771
@davidbird4771 4 жыл бұрын
It is not "ash fault", it is asphalt and it is pronounced as·phalt /ˈasfôlt/. I might also add that the pavement is really asphalt cement pavement; asphalt is the cement that binds the material together to make the pavment which consists of fine aggregate, course aggregate and cement.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Noted
@scinceman96game
@scinceman96game 4 жыл бұрын
the can dig it out now
@james6275
@james6275 4 жыл бұрын
Its the State of Michigan leaders no one else if the dams were bad it's their fault!
@greetingsearthlingsmynamei6393
@greetingsearthlingsmynamei6393 4 жыл бұрын
The shoreline is the property line, not the water level.
@Mike-tg7dj
@Mike-tg7dj 4 жыл бұрын
They got lucky on that bridge. The footings of the bridge look undamaged but hey I'm not a civil engineer.If the footings aren't damaged and everything else is squared them all they would need to do is fill up that open spot in the road there with guardrails hanging down.I know the footers (those exposed iron beams driven into the bedrock) don't look bent. The dam and river chan el are a whole other ball game.
@waynecurrie9017
@waynecurrie9017 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing you have not mentioned is what happened to anything down stream.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
I have did many follow up videos of downstream in Sanford as well as Freeland showing what happened.
@sw8741
@sw8741 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you are so worried about "walking on the lake bottom". What the hell are they gonna do? Tell you to get off of it? Most States have to have the cops to tell you to leave before its considered trespassing.
@suprb6970
@suprb6970 4 жыл бұрын
It is an absolute shame the State of Michigan is not repairing that state highway. I hope to God the residents of that Great state take a long hard look at their state government come election day.
@robertschuknecht1481
@robertschuknecht1481 4 жыл бұрын
The M-30 bridge was not the only bridge to be damaged. The state can't repair all of them in 6 weeks. The US-10 bridge is the highest priority due to traffic volume. M-30 will eventually be repaired but it will take time.
@moaski
@moaski 4 жыл бұрын
They should turn this area into a preserve with hiking trails, kayak/canoe launches, etc... . Rebuilding the damns is nonsensical.
@wdtaut5650
@wdtaut5650 4 жыл бұрын
No shortage of nonsense in politics. There will be people pushing to rebuild.
@79tazman
@79tazman 4 жыл бұрын
That bank was just a earth bank no wonder why it broke I'm surprised it lasted that long before it broke whoever designed that dam was not very smart to say the least and how many more dams is built like that. It's sad because everyone lost everything and their Insurance is not covering any of it. It's a damn shame.
@joenewman6939
@joenewman6939 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that counts mother nature out hu
@robertreynolds1044
@robertreynolds1044 4 жыл бұрын
What and how old is the exposed rock surface that we see in your video?
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
I think the exposed area the water is running over is clay but I cant be certain.
@robertreynolds1044
@robertreynolds1044 4 жыл бұрын
@@JordanMowbray Not clay, this is a hard rock surface,possibly a hard limestone. We have caliche out here in the desert and it has similar erosion characteristics but looks like cement and is very tough, just ask someone who has dug out a pool hole in it. BTW, thanks for your time.
@asquithmainlines699
@asquithmainlines699 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many Dutch people watched this happen shook their heads and said “ Silly Americans”.
@jus4funtim
@jus4funtim 4 жыл бұрын
So rebuild the dam 10 times better and move on. There's really nothing else anyone can do , let the lawyers figure it out
@braddurham145
@braddurham145 4 жыл бұрын
No u should not rebuild the dam's the way it is now is how it uses to be man destroyed this land
@maitlandmoore6426
@maitlandmoore6426 4 жыл бұрын
We've learned , dams aren't that good of an idea , let it flow and work with it , let the citizens keep their money and work with what you've got never again to have a failure .
@stillborn62
@stillborn62 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like an old Erie steam shovel
@edwardf6229
@edwardf6229 4 жыл бұрын
At least there not painting words on the streets like they are here in California.
@jeremyowen1
@jeremyowen1 4 жыл бұрын
​@Ms. Tal Are you implying that the community should band together and fix this?
@edwardf6229
@edwardf6229 4 жыл бұрын
@Tixe 100 please read my post again! I didn't see any disagreement in the words I used. That's problem with people like you. Always trying to start something. Go back to your cave.
@edwardf6229
@edwardf6229 4 жыл бұрын
@Greg W HA Ha you know my future plans. Always been Republican. Yes, I'm surrounded, but thank goodness we live in a rural county in N. California away from the demoncrats. Thanks for the invite
@suelyons531
@suelyons531 4 жыл бұрын
Wow...racists much? Oh right...yeah...you're a racist.
@suelyons531
@suelyons531 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pinkielover It's said that you're a racist and ignorant.
@DougM63
@DougM63 4 жыл бұрын
First the task of figuring out who is going to pay for it. That could get ugly.
@SuzyEH
@SuzyEH 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt the bridge will be fixed anytime soon. Engineers will be brought in to look things over. My guess maybe 1 1/2 years and that's will a lot of luck.
@robertschuknecht1481
@robertschuknecht1481 4 жыл бұрын
The M-DOT website has the M-30 bridge reopening May 31, 2022. That is probably an estimate.
@captainalant
@captainalant 4 жыл бұрын
Its your Governors fault. And with her Bad politics I hope Trump don't give her a Dime.
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks 4 жыл бұрын
the president and the govenor no matter how you slice it have nothing to do with this disaster, it lies wholly on the people that manage the damn, if any fault can be placed on them at all.
@nickbeam5432
@nickbeam5432 4 жыл бұрын
The people have the rights to all waterways, no one person or four lakes has any standing to rights... Anyway don't argue on who is at fault, just fix the issue, even if the people have to do it themselves !!!
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@ninja3502002
@ninja3502002 4 жыл бұрын
God made nature powerful. It appears the land itself spewing out the people of the land.
@oldmech619
@oldmech619 4 жыл бұрын
Reply this at a later date
@nv1493
@nv1493 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, the media is all over garage door pull-down ropes.
@sharonholdren7588
@sharonholdren7588 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for still asking the pertinent question: How can "they" own the lakebed now when the didn't own the lake/dam earlier? If They owned it earlier and as fully documented failed to maintain it so as to prevent/avoid this kind of damage, then They should be legally responsible. As I said previously NO daming or empoundment of any perennial stream should ever be privately owned. Your work is quite commendable.
@rudimarchand8613
@rudimarchand8613 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell you how many times I have crossed the bridge at Sanford and marveled at how beautiful the area looked. Now, all gone! Great work Jordan, your piloting is superb giving all of us who live downstate views that we would otherwise never see.Thank you so much for your time and effort, keeping this event in front of usand showing how nobody is really doing anything to repair the damage. You are still the only source of information that I am aware of concerning this situation. I want to ask about any odd smell of rotting vegetation or dead fish or other animals that were swept up in the flood, just curious.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't smell anything at Edenville. At Sanford there is a slight smell depending on what way the wind is blowing.
@rudimarchand8613
@rudimarchand8613 4 жыл бұрын
@@JordanMowbray TY as always.
@junkerzn7312
@junkerzn7312 4 жыл бұрын
This is a tough one, because it basically comes down to ownership, money, and regulation. The dam clearly needed a ton of work (and this was known for a long time), but the owners were unwilling or unable to fund that work (probably more the latter given that the cost to the owners would have probably been well beyond their ability to pay for). But then we have the other side of the coin which was the obvious risk to down-stream infrastructure and residents were the dam to break (which it did, finally break). So did the state and/or city have a regulatory duty to essentially take the dam away from the owners, drain, and remove it, to remove the risk to downstream residents ? Probably yes, but at the same time I doubt the state or city would have been able to actually push through regulatory reform to that degree without losing their jobs in the next election. If the above suppositions are even remotely accurate, does this then mean that the ultimate responsibility was actually with the voters ? -- There are some parallels with other disasters. In particular, Paradise California (which was destroyed in the recent fires) was not laid out in a manner that made fire protection possible. And even when they had the chance to build-in some protections such as significantly widening the main street they chose not to. Orville dam (an 'almost' disaster that took billions of dollars to fix), power line maintenance (PG&E and the CA fires), Paradise, Santa Rosa (fire breaks not built into the city plan, a city built right in the path of historical diablo fire paths). Etc. Also mine tailings pond failures (some of which have destroyed towns and killed people in the past), coal ash pond failures, poisoned ground, contaminated ground water from O&G infrastructure, salt water inundation in Florida, and so on. This dam failure is just one of a continuous string of accidents or accidents-waiting-to-happen. I don't think we can just place blame for these easily foreseeable events after-the-fact. If people don't want these events to happen, or be as severe in the future, then people have to vote for the types of regulation that can prevent it. Otherwise individual owners of such infrastructure can continue to put thousands of other people at risk when said infrastructure fails. Its a bit of a conundrum, because in many states it is not possible to vote for such reforms and still remain in office due to the 'trampling' of individual property rights (regardless of the risk to other people). That's the real crux of the issue. -Matt
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 4 жыл бұрын
It's a class of problem that is hard you action in a democracy. Any time you need to take a *costly precaution* then all you can do is spend the money and open yourself to criticism by people who assert it wasn't yet critical risk, or don't spend and get away with it, until you don't.
@turnoffmainstream
@turnoffmainstream 4 жыл бұрын
Would say the local and state government failed all of the people 🤔 Sad, just follow the money :-(
@elerdocraiel2005
@elerdocraiel2005 4 жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind when wanting to "blame" people there's plenty to go around. Federal government has nothing to do with the upkeep of state roads, dams, etc. States are given the money specifically to address these issues, however it doesn't mean the money may have gone somewhere else as proven in other states during disasters. The infrastructures here in the USA were built to last 50 yrs and we are well past that TF. Some states have taken the initiative to fix this problems while other states have not. The government there received the money--the question should be "where did it get used?" or "who's pocket did it go in to?". It will come out in the end, so why worry about it now? Another question to ask is why can't you walk on the lake bed? This makes me wonder what they are trying to hide--just food for thought. I know this doesn't help those without insurance for this type of disaster, but it's all things that came to light even after Harvey and Katrina. Even talking with people in Louisiana after being relocated there temporarily, we found out from them if you choose to live in a dam area you are pretty much screwed in terms of insurance flooding terms. The system needs changing definitely, but keep in mind they always have a reason for those clauses as we found. Many blessings to the residents there and may the community receive the help it needs!
@scottmueller5995
@scottmueller5995 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the Army Corp of Engineers in all this ? This mess is going to be in the courts for years . Keep up the good work sir , perhaps other communities in this type of situation can learn how to protect themselves .
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 4 жыл бұрын
the army corp of engineers are frist class losers. they cant handle wolf creek dam also know as lake cumberland. cant tell you how many times they also lost that dam. if it ever fails nashville tn will be under a lot of water
@ytzpilot
@ytzpilot 4 жыл бұрын
When the Federal Government revoked the dams licence back in 2018 they removed themselves from all obligations to this. This is 100% on the state to fix, if they can’t handle it they could request help from a Federal organisation like the Army Corp of Engineers. If I was the Feds I wouldn’t go anywhere near this though
@cathiwim
@cathiwim 4 жыл бұрын
dknowles60 already has been!
@twothreefour234
@twothreefour234 4 жыл бұрын
After the Homeowners pay for the town downstream we will consider fixing the lake. They are as responsible as the dam owners. You wanted to keep the lake level up, now the bill has come due
@wdtaut5650
@wdtaut5650 4 жыл бұрын
The State is suing. The people are suing. The dam owners are suing. The only ones who will get anything out of all this are the lawyers. The State may get a few remnant crumbs (not enough to pay for anything) and the people will get nothing - except bills.
@michaela1655
@michaela1655 4 жыл бұрын
It is actually nice to see the river flowing again the way nature intended. Those dams lasted 95 years, which is amazing for an earthen dam. I hope they let the river run wild and let the former lake bed be public lands. It would give the water someplace to go during floods. And make an amazing wildlife corridor. And some hiking trails for the humans would be great.
@rjgoniea
@rjgoniea 4 жыл бұрын
People are asking how private entities can own the lake bottom. Its very simple. Frank Wixom bought the land before his company built the 4 dams. Most of that bottomland has remained the property of the companies that have owned the dam since then. Some parcels under Sanford Lake reverted back to the county when the company decided they wouldn't pay property tax on them anymore. This has all been covered in stories published in the Midland Daily News. Technically, FLTF can't decree anything about not walking on the lake bed as the purchase from Boyce Hydro has not been completed the last time I checked. But if Boyce Hydro is letting them say it then that's their prerogative. Great vid as always, and I am glad to hear you will be featuring the western portion of Wixom Lake in the next video. If someone hadn't asked about it already I would have.
@harryberry474
@harryberry474 4 жыл бұрын
So it's back to a River...like it should have always been. Honestly that wasn't a very good place to begin with for a dam. The deepest part of the lake was only 40ft the majority much more shallow. Dams are usually built in ravines not in such low/flat areas such as where this dam was. The dam itself was a disaster in the making with too few spillways and an earthen emergency spillway. I feel sorry for the thousands of lives that have been affected by this man made disaster, most (if not all) have only known this area as it was before the dam failure. Very sad indeed. The owner(s0 of the dam should be held liable but they'll probably file for bankruptcy. The home owners along the lake are truly left high and dry, the people below that got flooded out many of them have truly lost everything.
@cosmicgoatlady6957
@cosmicgoatlady6957 4 жыл бұрын
There was a man caught in quick sand up to his waist this week, walking the river so beware to lake bed.
@lindahueckstedt2695
@lindahueckstedt2695 4 жыл бұрын
Yes,you did say my name correctly.
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks again for your support! It is greatly appreciated and you are officially the first Patron of the channel!
@anniesym5196
@anniesym5196 4 жыл бұрын
Linda Hueckstedt how does one become a patron supporter? I’m from TN but parents live in Bay City.
@tsmi5807
@tsmi5807 4 жыл бұрын
The large black metal frame is a type O steam shovel that was abandoned who knows how long ago.
@tindoortailgator
@tindoortailgator 4 жыл бұрын
Was Used to Build the Dam in the 1920's
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 4 жыл бұрын
@@tindoortailgator yes.
@professorsip7242
@professorsip7242 4 жыл бұрын
It’s beautiful, hope they pull it out!
@anniesym5196
@anniesym5196 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for identifying that machinery (steam shovel). I had wondered what it was!
@LadyAlriandi
@LadyAlriandi 4 жыл бұрын
despite all the destruction, the river's new parth looks so pretty. once everything is cleaned up and nature repairs and stabilises the river bank, that will make such a pretty river. Though the old steam shovel needs to be pulled out and cleaned up.
@keonikaig9247
@keonikaig9247 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan , again thank you... Blessings w/Aloha from Hawai'i
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We were planning on going on our honeymoon in Hawaii but not sure how open things will be for traveling in October.
@alohamd165
@alohamd165 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Mowbray hopefully you go and have a blessed time. 🌺
@SimBianchi
@SimBianchi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for producing these documentaries, they are very well made and I really like your style of presentation. I hope your communities get help to repair the damage soon. Best wishes from Australia.
@jimvandemoter6961
@jimvandemoter6961 4 жыл бұрын
I know this area very well. I still have friends in Midland who lost everything in the flooding. My family owned a bakery in Midland in the '60's called Dawn Donut on Saginaw rd.
@dantor111
@dantor111 4 жыл бұрын
I like your work, but how can trump be at fault? from what I read trouble on these dams go back to 1993
@RomeKG471
@RomeKG471 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the HCEA in Bowling Green Ohio[Historical Construction Equipment Museum] will recover that steam shovel.
@paullasmith4975
@paullasmith4975 4 жыл бұрын
Litoral and riparian rights have to do with land owners and the property they own up to the shore line. Who owns the lake bottom when the lake evaporates or drains off is likely a legal issue. A quick look see at the county tax office will show who's been paying the tax in the past month. It may even be subject to foreclosure laws even though there's no law requiring any one to pay property tax. Owners should have a fence built around it as they may be responsibe for injuries if someone were to hurt themselves while on the lake bottom. Next legal issue, "What's the highest and best use of the land?" ...could it be seized via eminent domain?
@billnotice9957
@billnotice9957 4 жыл бұрын
The saddest part is the Lake will never be allowed to be rebuilt. The Sierra Club is already lining up to stop any rebuilding hoping to get the river back into a more natural form. Imagine forking over big money to live on a lake and no El Ziltcho!!!
@webcrawler3332
@webcrawler3332 4 жыл бұрын
Sure the hell isn’t the presidents fault. Only people to blame are those managing the dam and/or the governor.
@gypsydrumhorse
@gypsydrumhorse 4 жыл бұрын
Good job filing and documenting this.
@pilotguychris7217
@pilotguychris7217 4 жыл бұрын
I know it is not your intent, but it an interesting legal precedent, who owns but lake bed now that the water is gone? It isn't like this happens every day. If the dams are not to be repaired then someone we'll have to take ownership of the properties beyond the shoreline that were once water. A legal debate for sure and many challenges to overcome. In the short-term the lake bed is a treasure trove for metal detecting.
@mikethewoodworker6194
@mikethewoodworker6194 4 жыл бұрын
They would not own the lake bed, they would have to hold the deed and that would not be possible so quickly everyone in the county would be aware of what’s going on, the easiest way for you to fact find this is to visit the county office and ask who the land is registered to.
@jeffdunnell508
@jeffdunnell508 4 жыл бұрын
Dreams washed away ,start over the landscape has changed,oh boy
@magnitudematrix2653
@magnitudematrix2653 4 жыл бұрын
Time for a new Governor, Mayor and Sheriff. Hydrologist and engineers knew. There is no excuse for that.
@obetwokenobi458
@obetwokenobi458 4 жыл бұрын
Try to get permission to walk on the lake bed.
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 4 жыл бұрын
no problem. Mi is more worryed about a old barber cuting hair then dam safety
@SDRacing88
@SDRacing88 4 жыл бұрын
no way you should need permission to walk on that lake bed.
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 4 жыл бұрын
The whole point is fear of liability so of course they are not going to explicitly grant permission. The maneuver of claiming ownership is so that if anything happens to someone then, well they were trespassing, so ..
@juantransportador
@juantransportador 4 жыл бұрын
HELLO from chihuahua mexico, in 26 hours is the premiere of your video 👍, sorry I'm not going to be able to see the video, FAMILY emergency, good luck, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
@alexfaeth9673
@alexfaeth9673 4 жыл бұрын
Mother Nature wanted her water way back. She got it. Undam the US.
@paulbetka1803
@paulbetka1803 4 жыл бұрын
😭☹️ ✝️🙏🇺🇸 Let us pray 🙏😢😥😓😫 good job 👍
@anniesym5196
@anniesym5196 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Betka agree Mr Paul. Thank you, great emojis ✝️🙌🏼
@mikejardno7272
@mikejardno7272 4 жыл бұрын
The Power company had to purchase all the land that was flooded when they built the dam. Therefore they own the land that is now exposed. No controversy except for the people that are uninformed. On a natural lake if you own property on the lake you own to the center of the lake, or you share ownership with all the other land owners with riparian rights. On the Great Lakes you own to the median high water mark. The state owns the property under the Great Lakes.
@dwightstjohn6927
@dwightstjohn6927 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that issue. There goes my idea for planting potatoes. Wait! Govt. is now encouraging gardening. win/win/
@vidsbyme2590
@vidsbyme2590 4 жыл бұрын
You are incorrect. With all four lakes the lakebed is owned by Boyce Hydro (north two lakes) and FLTF (South two lakes) which were purchased in a tax sale. Homeowners own to the edge of the lakes "at normal level". The lands under the lake at normal level are plotted and have tax ID#s and the owners pay taxes on them. Power company does not own any land. They have a contract to purchase the electricity from Boyce Hydro until 2024.
@jeffrey9882
@jeffrey9882 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the updates. I noticed that you focused on the destruction of wixom lake near the southern end by the dam. What is the upper area look like? Is it as bad? Do you or are you able to show footage from that area? examples, wixom lake by Estey rd., Pleasant beach resorts and cabins, Strykers marina, and other points in that section? Is it even accesible?
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
Ill get some video of strykers in my next video but I did film some of strykers in my first video.
@gypsydrumhorse
@gypsydrumhorse 4 жыл бұрын
4 Lakes task force should also b e counted in those that could be blamed. They point fingers at everyone but not at themselves. Restore the river
@dwightstjohn6927
@dwightstjohn6927 4 жыл бұрын
After cleaning clock on the Dow Chem. lecheate ponds, all this crap (along with Agent Orange residue) makes a left hand turn at Saginaw, flows into Lake Huron, and an INTERNATIONAL boundary. And yet USA AND CANADA NATIONALS NEWS has NOT ONE story on this; but film at eleven of the arrest of a guy smoking pot in Polk Co.??
@gypsydrumhorse
@gypsydrumhorse 4 жыл бұрын
@@dwightstjohn6927 I'm not surprised. A lot is hidden. Lots of noise hiding the truth. While those that lost a waterfront complain, far more serious chain of events affected those below, all the way to Lake Huron. This is supposed to be a river, not a river with 3 consecutive dams hoarding water...boom boom boom...they all fall down and take a lot with them. Those that are probably the most at fault are the one's pointing fingers at everyone else. More needs to be said about what happened on the way to Lake Huron.
@coffeeis4closers
@coffeeis4closers 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan, the river has two legs that come from Wixom lake. Do you have any footage of the leg closest to Neiner Road? Just wondering if anything happened on that side.
@agentx7138
@agentx7138 4 жыл бұрын
Lake bed looks to me to be a land grab under the pretence of safety. I think locals should get a say as to what happens to it.
@maitlandmoore6426
@maitlandmoore6426 4 жыл бұрын
That's nature , claiming her lands
@SHAREMediaBK
@SHAREMediaBK 4 жыл бұрын
Great coverage. ASHphalt made me laugh 👍
@EASTSIDERIDER707
@EASTSIDERIDER707 4 жыл бұрын
Citizen journalism at its best.
@brianbates7490
@brianbates7490 4 жыл бұрын
If anyone is at fault here, it must be those who built and manage this reservoir. In my opinion, land dams are not solid, fortified or water resistant what so ever, and should never be utilized for retaining mass amounts of water in any permanent facility or structure. I'd expect some serious changes in dam construction in the future. Dredging out resevoirs below the water line instead of trapping water above the waterline would make a big difference as well. If this is managed by the State, then the responsibility would lie with those who manage it. If the Governor or legislature has hindered upgrades or needed repairs, ect, then they would be responsible. Otherwise, I feel the responsibility lies with those who built, inspect and manage the resevoirs.
@Loop307
@Loop307 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the videos. Great job
@robinmyman
@robinmyman 4 жыл бұрын
Tremendous footage! Noticed our Water Board engineers out checking local similarly built reservoirs which are currently spilling...S W Wales.
@Mudford
@Mudford 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work, Jordan. Have you seen or heard anything about the houses in between the M-30 bridges? I think there are 4 or 5 in a little subdivision. They will continue to be inaccessible until one of the bridges is repaired. You should interview one of those people if you can.
@HellfrozeoverDitto-lj1rm
@HellfrozeoverDitto-lj1rm 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I hope they leave it alone from here on out.
@LeFatCobra
@LeFatCobra 4 жыл бұрын
At this point I agree with you. It would be interesting to watch the ecosystem that develops over the next 10, 20, years etc.
@antiblonda1737
@antiblonda1737 4 жыл бұрын
Fritz Foster except there is money to be made. I heard Jordan mention some group claiming ownership of the lake bed. I already hear the wheels of development turning
@JordanMowbray
@JordanMowbray 4 жыл бұрын
There is plans to acquire the dams and rebuild them by the FLTF.
@HellfrozeoverDitto-lj1rm
@HellfrozeoverDitto-lj1rm 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Mowbray I guess they want there waterfront value back. It is so bueatiful the way it is now, but money talks. Maybe a cover up? Oooooo! They are all at fault, it was all about the money. Sad.
@Jerry-ko9pi
@Jerry-ko9pi 4 жыл бұрын
I would think that if they do not rebuild the dam, people with lake front property just got their property extended some. The land would become theirs? If not, it would not have any access to it otherwise. If they do decide to rebuild dam, now would be the time to clean out the bottom, after people rebuild of course.
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