UPDATED Demonology Warlock Talents for 10.2 | Builds & Rotation Explained | WoW Dragonflight

[@Shadhun98]

The day shall come when you're the most viewed warlock streamer. Kalamazi is doing huge work for the warlock community too, but it's just theoretical. You're basically the only one showing how it's practically done on a high level

[@mythickall]

ty ty

[@giuseppemarchesana1248]

I don't understand when Kalamazi speaks...

[@extreme11365]

​@@giuseppemarchesana1248same

[@Möntess_TV]

​@@giuseppemarchesana1248Just 0.75x

[@gifted4]

There's never enough Warlock content. Let's not put people down to lift others up. Let's just all be great to whoever is making content.

[@majazar4505]

Thanks for the video! Recently just started to level a demo warlock and this has been very helpful for me to try to get the hang of the spec :)

[@Gaming-Doc]

Daam.. finally someone explaining rotation in a simple and effective way... guides out there are talking about it like irs fucking rocket sceince.. great vid, thanks bro

[@conormckenna7796]

thought i was gonna hate this build but actually its pretty fun and im blasting in keys. wish we had just a bit more demonic core procs though

[@ADzx1034]

I am going to try this out. I have just came back to demo after not playing it since BFA. I was surprised how much DMG my felguard was doing now. Makes sense to buff things outside tyrant.

[@dhamongrimmwolf1220]

Awesome! Been a spec changer since destro is so crappy in m+, this build is really nice to use in m+.

[@armagedoc66]

Forgot to tell you, this build is sooo good. Reworked demo feels incredible and so safe! I love pumping up damage of all my demons through the m+ and focusing purely on felguard + imps on raid. Feels so good man 😊 thank you for it!

[@Lil-Roux]

Thank you so much for the video!

[@Murci0059]

Hey, new demo here, I must say your short guide is really crystal clear. We can understand really quickly our burst then our rotation! But I have more specific questions: During your Tyrant, do you implosion, or do you hold it (in aoe situation) until the end of tyrant ? Because you Implosion in your video but there's still your tyrant. Is there a cap up to a certain number we can't sum imp anymore and that's why you used implosion, not to overcap ? Is Implosion buffed by the Tyrant?

[@mythickall]

its really situational, if the mobs gonna die before your tyrant expire, you can implode them to get get more damage.

[@Murci0059]

Ooh, so only when they are low life, then ! Thanks for your answer, love what you're doing, you make it so simple !

[@CrymSyN007]

dang bro how hard is it to put the import code in area below the video?

[@dethimamekaipolla4487]

+1

[@mythickall]

the talent import?

[@zheros81]

Its wild that Tyrant has been changed so much that its come to this. Great vid though, I'll be giving this a try!

[@mythickall]

yeah hes not that important anymore Sadge :(

[@toemasmeems]

I dig this build! But i found that in some cases for my toon having alil more focus on mastery instead of vers resulted in more damage but not by much

[@Dominik-vl7fg]

Nice! Thanks for this build. Do you recommend to reach a certain threshold for versa or crit to use it?

[@mythickall]

30% crit and vers is a good point

[@jamiebird4106]

Good explanation, how do you pop the second felgaurd?

[@patricktaylor9262]

Do you typically run the same build in Tyrannical and Fortified? This was a HUGE help for the past week.. just wondering if much changes with the main affixs, minus saving bigger CDs for boss fights.

[@mythickall]

The only change I make for tyran weeks is going hatred instead of guillotine

[@unholyXromance]

is still this a good build in season 3? I'm 484, and am only just slightly in front of warlocks that are ~10 ilevels below me. My top damaging abilities look like yours, but they've always got demon bolt as their second top damage

[@castiex9391]

So the imps don’t freeze no more after u pop tyrant so it’s a little tricky and u gotta time it right cuz imps will be almost expiring. That’s what I’m experiencing on key openers

[@mythickall]

yeah bit tricky but an easy fix

[@castiex9391]

@@mythickall what tips u got for that lol

[@mythickall]

honestly i havent changed my opener at all@@castiex9391 still just felguard, dogs, 2 HoGs then pop CDs

[@gwendalderouet2029]

I test it just know on a +16 it s better and "easier" to take in hand but it's really cool to play

[@mythickall]

Yeah very chill

[@emielvanbelle7352]

What do you use soulburn for?

[@mostafaabdulsattar814]

how did you summon your felguard almost instantly at 4:12 ? did you press grimoire: felguard or just normal summon? when i summon my felguard it takes my like 3 whole seconds

[@soaproject9135]

Use the spell Fel Domination first, it reduces casting time by 90%

[@snennis8574]

he pressed grimoire felguard

[@avalectra1]

this build makes it so much easier to juggle the tier set

[@mythickall]

Yep yep

[@unholyXromance]

would you recommend this build for a destro main that (begrudgingly) is swapping to demon lock because destro is awful now? Also thanks for explaining all the talents and rotation. That was very helpful for scrubs like myself

[@mythickall]

yep yep

[@unholyXromance]

@mythickall I'll certainly give it a go. I'm glad you made this video. I looked on wowhead, and there were a ton of builds. This made it easy to pick one, so thanks

[@danielvisintin7518]

hi thanks for the videos, when do you use demonbolt? with 2 or more cores?

[@BunkerBrawler]

do you still save your demonic strength for after you tyrant or do you use it on cd?

[@brucegray2614]

Hi man, thanks for the guide, just a few questions: soul strike you press or automatic?. Guillotine worth spend the talent point?

[@mythickall]

I have it automatic, yeah I think guillotine is worth

[@tobeyves]

did you even watch the vid?

[@Markus8Markus8]

Would you recommend this setup for people still on 4 peice sesson two tierset? Or should i only switch over next week when i can get new two set?

[@Rey-Rey2077]

same question here

[@mythickall]

yep yep

[@Char-Aznable-UC-0059]

Thank you for the video. If I only have season 3 two piece, could I use this build?

[@mythickall]

Yep yep

[@Char-Aznable-UC-0059]

Thank you@@mythickall

[@Jztyle]

Do you use corruption at all in single target ?

[@Shub-Nagruth]

Corruption is useless and a loss of dps for demonology. Your priority is get demoncore, more imp and many damage on your felguard

[@mythickall]

no corruption

[@daniordasi6134]

Can u explain please why are we goimg from haste mastery to crit versa? Cathing up after season 1, sorry for dummie question

[@Shub-Nagruth]

overall after having obtained a cap of 30% in haste and having equalized your critical and your poly, you will help a lot on the dps of your felguard and your next demonbolt. versatility is important in relation to the damage that your Felguard will do, the strength of the felstrike but also the power of the 2p/4p dot. as now we play with the ST Hatred build, mastery is no longer of much interest.

[@daniordasi6134]

So haste is still a prio till 25-30% and were just dumping mastery over versa? Or i've got it wrong. Rly sorry 2nd day since long ago

[@Shub-Nagruth]

@@daniordasi6134 yes, stat priority is: Intel > haste (cap 30/35%)> Crit=versa >mastery

[@mythickall]

our top damage skills scale of crit and vers and not mastery (to keep it short)

[@ezphantom]

@@Shub-Nagruth I would say that you dont want to go higher than 30% haste. It is a deminishing zone already

[@jayryan1956]

demonic strength is only 1 minute right so can we use that again before felguard is back up on the 2 minute cooldown?

[@dailydistraction3793]

with crit stacking with blood elf be a solid choice? not trying to be top 0.01 but some races just do a lot better then others and orcs fugly. staying horde side

[@mythickall]

i play human because transmog looks better, so doesn't matter that much

[@tiagopassarela]

I play orc because of the 1% pet dmg and the racial is two min cd so I have it up for every burst :)

[@johanrafaelbarnholdtnielse8305]

Orc femmes are bis. Would let Them zug zug me any day

[@dagauner8463]

New stats are krit /versa ?

[@mythickall]

yep yep and some haste, no more mastery

[@armagedoc66]

This build is too good and easy to pull off. Not relying on Tyrant much makes it more versatile.

[@Byrant24]

waht plater you use??

[@mythickall]

It's in my discord

[@dodo5257-v3f]

What about two targets? Do we just do the normal aoe rotation?

[@mythickall]

yep yep

[@nickyjones916]

should we use versatility phial?

[@mythickall]

vers and crit is good

[@Jungler0om]

So overall, focus crit and vers and not mastery this season?

[@mythickall]

generally yes, but still sim your character with every new item

[@KeyGk1]

What about vilefiend ? Any senario to use it ?

[@spyrobesity9435]

we are stacking crit vers over haste mast?

[@FhjjikhgGjkigccv]

My biggest weakness with this build is like the first pack of the key and anytime I don't get demon bolt procs after I implode and I'm stuck at 0 imps and the pack ends been doing better though

[@anjunabeatz2449]

I don’t get it, I’m on 4 set Bonus around 466 item lvl. When I’m doing the rota on the group dummy’s my dps is only 245k ! What I’m doing wrong ? Over 100k bomb dps are missing

[@yagowalter806]

So mastery is bad for demon lock?

[@mythickall]

Not bad, but we're not stacking it like crazy, always sim your character

[@manolistav9045]

Hi! After years of playing destro, I decided to play demo for the first time (loving it btw). My only question is when is the best time to use implosion? Thanks!

[@Henchmen1]

Get a weak aura so you can see how many imps are up and when they expire and you use it when a large portion is about to expire... Some ppl just look at the skill when it hits ah certain amount of imps they smack it

[@manolistav9045]

@@Henchmen1 thanks man! I guess there is a WA for everything now

[@rapscorner-worldofwarcraft2744]

Normally you use 6-9 imps for implosion@@Henchmen1

[@slipknotpurity00]

It seems so weird not to use Vilefiend in m+ now since it hits 5 targets. Hard to understand how soulstrike could be better.

[@mythickall]

It's very good, the regeneration is bug and the damage is not bad because soul strike does AoE damage as well

[@chrissmith9199]

Is this good for pre-4 piece or after you receive 4 piece?

[@slipknotpurity00]

@@mythickall I mean naked Tyrant IS simming higher for me in both single and AOE and also on the target dummies is producing more damage. I was getting excited about 1 min Tyrant again too, boo :/

[@slipknotpurity00]

@@chrissmith9199 Both

[@mythickall]

@@slipknotpurity00 yeah lets hope it gets some love

[@andretiicoandersson1278]

hey @Mythickal how do u have 3 "Dream Crafted" pieces, i can only wear 2 ?? :O plz help me out

[@dojyr3130]

you can only have two with embellishments. craft more without them

[@stevenbell4544]

When you craft a piece of gear dont add embellishments or recraft with griftahs all-purpose embellishment powder. It removes an embellishment if needed

[@alexg959]

No vilefiend in M+? Also for that trinket, is it worth the GCD to drop shadowfury to get that 30% damage buff? Does that even get triggered by shadowfury?

[@mythickall]

Yeah soulstrike is doing great, nah I don't think so. Shadowfury is purely for utility

[@LiamSmith-rt5pr]

How do I Get my ui to look like that?

[@mythickall]

Discord

[@kiu-xl3ew]

Do you use any macros?

[@kiu-xl3ew]

if so, what are those? =D great video

[@dinokralj2848]

can i copy your ui anywhere?

[@gam3rhashtag]

i play destruction. i use hast crit vers but my master is like 50% .. im like i450 if i use this build u using its like same aoe dmg il do max 220k on dummys. but demon feels more relax for playing i think.

[@johnpelletier8793]

How do you macro nymbue trinket to tyrant?

[@fablefortitude5760]

As a life long Afflic player, I'm trying to switch to Demonology; I'm told it's the easiest to play. Strange ... It all looks like Hieroglyphics to me.

[@mythickall]

lmao its really easy

[@fablefortitude5760]

@@mythickall Affliction was easy. Dot Dot Dot. Hold button. Dot some more. This is all "Look at all the shiny buttons!" Can I ask for a stupid-person walkthrough on the rotation? Like, what do I spam when Felguard and Strength are still on CD? Am I spamming Demobolt whenever it's instant?

[@mythickall]

@@fablefortitude5760 you spam shafowbolt, use demobolt only when instant, use every other thing on CD. Implode minions on 2 or more targets

[@fablefortitude5760]

Much more micr-managing compared to affliction. But even severely undergeared and no idea what I'm doing, I'm doing 80k+ DPS with a 420 iLevel. So I can't complain.@@mythickall

[@ezphantom]

yeah, they've killed afflic again and I went down to demo as well. Without this imp calculation for tyrant this demo looks much easier now. I would say that if you want to min max all 3 specs have some special things to keep in mind. Afflic is not only about keeping your dots up. It's about updating it at the latest second if possible to max DPS, as well as keep 8sec maleffic buff up and be ready to stack shards for burst window with soul rot and vile. Destro was about keeping your chaos bolt in fast mode. They've killed that so no more issues at all. Demo is about not wasting too much soul shards for now, as far as I can see

[@PallekOne]

What can you recommend for Embellishments? Double Shadowflame or Shadowflame and the timed Delation wrists?

[@mythickall]

double shadowflame for me, bracer and cloak

[@PallekOne]

Thank you, i guess, i should craft them with Vers/Crit? @@mythickall

[@mythickall]

@@PallekOne that's what I did

[@benceszucs4619]

I rally hate guillotine, cant place it normally, alwas clicks on a friendly target, then cant do the rotation normally….

[@mythickall]

yeah they make our pet cast it automatically

[@FelipeArcanj0]

Is there a macro that attacks the guillotine automatically?

[@mythickall]

@@FelipeArcanj0 no sadly :(

[@henril872]

Figured out the naked tyrant build on second day of 10.2 its been great, falls behind on ST to some other m+ build

[@casthor64]

Can some1 link me the macros needed? I know i need some macros to make my life easier

[@mythickall]

Check my discord

[@TuneboyR]

just got into demo and... i understand nothing xd

[@mythickall]

practice makes perfect

[@Excaliber158]

Took a 15ish year break and i 100% get this. Took a few mythic before I realized when I should be implosion

[@samueldufour888]

The old set is better then the new one ?

[@mythickall]

nope new is better

[@samueldufour888]

you got the old set on this guide @@mythickall

[@mythickall]

this video was made on the 1st day of the season, nobody had the new 4set@@samueldufour888

[@edgyguy7084]

From what i've heared, u only use your tyrant to extend your other demons duration, so I put my trinket in a Summon Felguard macro and then use the tyrannt... Its funny how easy Demon became...

[@Ichronicgaming]

Im new to wow would really wish youtubers would include race choice

[@tobiasthrane3430]

seasoned wow gamer, done mythic raiding and high m+ ill tell you now race dont matter at all, unless you are like top 0.1%

[@PieOfTetris]

Races aren't a big factor just pick what you like.

[@Oreios]

I'd go for what you enjoy the most. Could be looks or could be how the racial ability feels

[@shilnx]

i picked a troll, for the extra haste they give.

[@ninvargasN4]

So now we are fighting with mages for crit versa items 😂

[@mythickall]

yaaaaap

[@zidrelcade]

Reported =P thank for the vid ! ♥

[@maxime7816]

The gameplay of this build is so poor without the tyrant talents... i cry for what they did to demono 😢

[@mythickall]

You get used to it

[@dinokralj2848]

what is that spell under 4?